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{{#Wiki_filter:AC CFLEMTED DISTRIBUTION DEMONSTRATION SYPH'EM r,P REGULATORY INFORMATION DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM (RIDS)ESSION NBR:8808300195 DOC.DATE: 88/08/15 NOTARIZED:
DEMONSTRATION
NO ACIL:50-254 Quad-Cities Station, Unit 1, Commonwealth Edison Co.50-265 Quad-Cities Station, Unit 2, Commonwealth Edison Co.AUTH.NAME AUTHOR AFFILIATION BLISS,H.E.
SYPH'EM r,P REGULATORY
Commonwealth Edison Co.RECIP.NAME RECIPIENT AFFXLIATION Region 3, Ofc of the Director DOCKET I'5000254 05000265  
INFORMATION
 
DISTRIBUTION
==SUBJECT:==
SYSTEM (RIDS)ESSION NBR:8808300195
Responds to NRC 880621 ltr re violations noted in Xnsp Repts 50-254/88-10
DOC.DATE: 88/08/15 NOTARIZED:
NO ACIL:50-254
Quad-Cities
Station, Unit 1, Commonwealth
Edison Co.50-265 Quad-Cities
Station, Unit 2, Commonwealth
Edison Co.AUTH.NAME AUTHOR AFFILIATION
BLISS,H.E.
Commonwealth
Edison Co.RECIP.NAME
RECIPIENT AFFXLIATION
Region 3, Ofc of the Director DOCKET I'5000254 05000265 SUBJECT: Responds to NRC 880621 ltr re violations
noted in Xnsp Repts 50-254/88-10
&50-265/88-11.
&50-265/88-11.
DISTRIBUTION
DISTRIBUTION CODE: IE01D COPIES RECEIVED:LTR 3 ENCL SIZE: TITLE: General (50 Dkt)-Insp Rept/Notice of Violation Response NOTES I D RECIPIENT ID CODE/NAME PD3-2 PD INTERNAL: ACRS DEDRO NRR/DLPQ/PEB 11 NRR/DOEA DIR 11 NRR/DREP/RPB 10 NRR/PMAS/ILRB12 0 ERMAN, J R G FIL 02 3~ILE 01 EXTERNAL: LPDR NSIC COPIES LTTR ENCL 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 RECIPIENT ID CODE/NAME ROSS,T AEOD NRR MORISSEAU,D NRR/DLPQ/QAB 10 NRR/DREP/EPB 10 NRR/DRIS DIR 9A NUDOCS-ABSTRACT OGC/HDS1 RES/DSIR DEPY-NRC PDR COPIES LTTR ENCL 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 A S A.D D.TOTAL NUMBER OF COPXES~REQUIRED: LTTR 25 ENCL 25  
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3 ENCL SIZE: TITLE: General (50 Dkt)-Insp Rept/Notice
e Commonwealth Edison One First National Plaza, Chicago, illinois ress ep y to: ost ice ox Chicago, illinois 60690-0767 August 15, 1988 Mr.A.Bert Davis Regional Administrator U.ST Nuclear Regulatory Commission Region III 799 Roosevelt Road Glen Ellyn, IL 60137  
of Violation Response NOTES I D RECIPIENT ID CODE/NAME PD3-2 PD INTERNAL: ACRS DEDRO NRR/DLPQ/PEB
 
11 NRR/DOEA DIR 11 NRR/DREP/RPB
==Subject:==
10 NRR/PMAS/ILRB12
Quad Cities Station Units 1 and 2"Response to IE Inspection Report Nos.50-254/88010 and 50-265/88011"-2 Reference (a): Letter from J.J.Harrison to Cordell Reed dated June 21, 1988.
0 ERMAN, J R G FIL 02 3~ILE 01 EXTERNAL: LPDR NSIC COPIES LTTR ENCL 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 RECIPIENT ID CODE/NAME ROSS,T AEOD NRR MORISSEAU,D
 
NRR/DLPQ/QAB
==Dear Mr.Davis:==
10 NRR/DREP/EPB
This letter is in response to the inspection conducted by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)Nondestructive Examination (NDE)Mobile Team of NRC's Region I Office on April 18 through April 29, 1988 of activities at Quad Cities Station Units 1 and 2.The referenced letter indicated that no violations of NRC requirements were identified in the course of the inspection.
10 NRR/DRIS DIR 9A NUDOCS-ABSTRACT
However, the letter did require Commonwealth Edison Company to provide a written response to Unresolved Item No.50-265/88011-04 (use of SNT-TC-lA 25'b rule).The Inspection Report did not establish a date by which a response was required.In a July 15, 1988 telephone conversation between Ms.I.M.Johnson of my staff and Mr.D.Danielson of your staff, it was mutually agreed that a response would be supplied by August 15, 1988.The Commonwealth Edison Company response to that Unresolved Item is provided in Attachment A.office.If you have any questions regarding this matter, please contact this H.E.liss Nuclear Licensing Manager lm Attachment A cc: NRC Resident Inspector-Quad Cities 5015K 8808300195 880815 PDR ADOCK 05000254 0 PDC  
OGC/HDS1 RES/DSIR DEPY-NRC PDR COPIES LTTR ENCL 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 A S A.D D.TOTAL NUMBER OF COPXES~REQUIRED: LTTR 25 ENCL 25  
 
V D A routine safety inspection of station activities at Quad Cities Station Unit l and 2 was conducted by the NRC NDE Mobile Team of the NRC's Region I office on April l8 through April 29, 1988.A part of the NRC inspection activities consisted of a selective examination of procedures and representative records.The NRC inspector, during his review of the Commonwealth Edison Company's Special Process Procedure Manual (SPPM), made an observation that the requirements in Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM are not consistent with or do not meet the intent of the SNT-TC-lA.
e Commonwealth
As a result, Mr.J.J.Harrison, NRC Region III, requested a written response to the item (No.50-265/88011/04) in a letter dated June 21, 1988 to Mr.C.Reed, Commonwealth Edison Company.The NRC Inspector's observation pertains to the so called"25%rule" in recommended Practice No.SNT-TC-lA, June 1980 edition, published by American Society for Non-Destructive Testing (ASNT)and the requirements in the procedure 1-1-0, Rev.24 of Commonwealth Edison's SPPM.The NRC inspector stated that the Commonwealth Edison Company procedure in the SPPM has improperly used the SNT-TC-1A 25%rule and that a possibility exists that Commonwealth Edison Company NDE personnel could fulfill certification requirements without satisfying the ASME requirements for minimum experience.
Edison One First National Plaza, Chicago, illinois ress ep y to: ost ice ox Chicago, illinois 60690-0767 August 15, 1988 Mr.A.Bert Davis Regional Administrator
The conclusion was based on the review of the certification of one Commonwealth Edison Company individual who spent most of his worktime on Quality Control (QC)related activities not involving actual application of NDE.The NRC Inspector believed this individual may have been certified using the 25%rule.The individual referenced here is actually certified as a"Radiographic Interpreter", a special category of NDE personnel identified in Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM.Commonwealth Edison believes that application of the 25%rule and qualification requirements of"RT Interpreters" are two separate issues and will be treated as such in our response which follows: Table 6.2.1A of SNT-TC-lA contains a statement,"credit for ezperience spend at least~~r~<of his worktime on~discipline for which experi-ence is being claimed." This provision has been incorporated into procedure 1-1-0, paragraph 6.1.1 of Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM in which it is required that"an individual may gain field experience in~w or maxed NDE on~NDE method for which field experience is being claimed".This clearly shows that Commonwealth Edison Company's requirements in the SPPM are consistent with those in the SNT-TC-lA.
U.ST Nuclear Regulatory
l A review was performed, at the NRC's request, of the qualification and certification of all present and past Commonwealth Edison Company personnel where the SNT-TC-1A 25%rule was used.The results of the review of the certification records showed that, of the seventeen NDE inspectors within the Commonwealth Edison system, six work in System Materials Analysis Department (SMAD)which is a group dedicated full time to performing NDE.The remaining eleven are assigned to various generating stations.Of those eleven, eight are qualified and experienced individuals who were hired into Edison from outside NDE Companies.
Commission
It is our understanding that the question of adequancy of training and experience pertains to neither the SMAD NDE group nor with respect to experienced inspectors recruited from outside testing companies.
Region III 799 Roosevelt Road Glen Ellyn, IL 60137 Subject: Quad Cities Station Units 1 and 2"Response to IE Inspection
The question was raised in regard to those Commonwealth Edison Company qualified individuals who are not full time NDE personnel.
Report Nos.50-254/88010
Our records show only three inspectors who fall into this category.Two are certified to perform only penetrant testing (PT)and one is certified to perform PT and MT (magnetic particle testing).If the provision in the SPPM and SNT-TC-1A for simultaneous qualification using the 25%rule was to be used, it would have been in the case of this one individual who is certified in both PT and MT.The review of his certification showed that the 25'b rule'He had logged one month work experience as defined in the SPPM for each discipline gypsy.before he was certified as a Level 1 inspector.
and 50-265/88011"-2 Reference (a): Letter from J.J.Harrison to Cordell Reed dated June 21, 1988.Dear Mr.Davis: This letter is in response to the inspection
He also worked an additional two months as a Level 1 PT inspector before becoming a Level II PT inspector, and an additional 3 months as a Level 1 MT inspector before being certified as a Level II MT inspector.
conducted by the Nuclear Regulatory
Even though Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM provides for use of the 25 percent rule as stated above, a review of personnel Edison Company qualified inspectors.
Commission (NRC)Nondestructive
A special subcategory of NDE personnel certified as"Radiographic Interpreter" is identified in the SPPM.This special"RT Interpreter" category was created to develop individuals who would have sufficient knowledge of RT method to review radiographic work done by outside testing contractors.
Examination (NDE)Mobile Team of NRC's Region I Office on April 18 through April 29, 1988 of activities
As specified in Commonwealth Edison Company's"written practice" (SPPM), an"RT Interpreter's" duties are limited to reviewing the radiographic work performed by the others to ensure that radiographs are of good quality and that proper codes and standards have been followed and that defects have been properly identified and evaluated.
at Quad Cities Station Units 1 and 2.The referenced
These RT Interpreters are neither trained to perform actual radiography nor are they allowed to specify techniqes or test parameters.
letter indicated that no violations
We believe that with these limitations, the subcategory of RT Interpreter, is acceptable and meets the intent of the code because:It is permissible according to the SNT-TC-1A recommended practice to create subcategories of NDE personnel depending upon the employer's special needs provided the duties, responsibilities, qualifiction requirements, and any limitations on their certification are described in the employers w  
of NRC requirements
 
were identified
b.Paragraph IWA-2300.a.3 of ASME Section XI, Winter 80 Addenda, states that,"........training for NDE personnel who perform'f a non-destructive examination method that contains more than one operation, or who perform non-destructive examination of limited scope, may be less than that recommended in Table 6'.1A of SNT-TC-lA We believe that reading and reviewing radiographs is only one aspect of multiple tasks involved in radiographic testing.Our RT Interpreters receive extensive classroom training and they spend a minimum of three months reviewing r'ediographs under the supervision of an experienced and certified RT person.Finally, they take a practical film interpretation test to demonstrate their ability to Commonwealth Edison Company's Chief Level III before being certified as Level II RT Interpreter.
in the course of the inspection.
These Interpreters played a valuable role in overviewing quality of a voluminous amount of RT work performed by the contractors during Commonwealth nuclear plant construction program.Commonwealth Edison's program for qualification and certification of the personnel involved in NDE related activities was designed to provide various degrees of NDE expertise to fulfill our needs.In addition to SMAD's NDE group, all nuclear plants need some personnel in their QC, QA, ISI and Tech Staff groups to be familiar with some, if not all, aspects of NDE disciplines in order to control the overall quality of the NDE work done at their respective plants.Our program as defined in the SPPM provides rules for the training and certification of those"limited" NDE personnel as well as defining the rules for qualification of actual"Examiners or Testers" which are, we believe, in strict accordance with the ASME Code.The extensive review of personnel records showed that 25%rule was not applied in certification of any of the NDE examiners.
However, the letter did require Commonwealth
The"RT Interpreters" subcategory of NDE personnel is permissive by the ASME Code and meets the intent of SNT-TC-lA recommended practice.5015K}}
Edison Company to provide a written response to Unresolved
Item No.50-265/88011-04 (use of SNT-TC-lA 25'b rule).The Inspection
Report did not establish a date by which a response was required.In a July 15, 1988 telephone conversation
between Ms.I.M.Johnson of my staff and Mr.D.Danielson of your staff, it was mutually agreed that a response would be supplied by August 15, 1988.The Commonwealth
Edison Company response to that Unresolved
Item is provided in Attachment
A.office.If you have any questions regarding this matter, please contact this H.E.liss Nuclear Licensing Manager lm Attachment
A cc: NRC Resident Inspector-Quad Cities 5015K 8808300195
880815 PDR ADOCK 05000254 0 PDC  
V D A routine safety inspection
of station activities
at Quad Cities Station Unit l and 2 was conducted by the NRC NDE Mobile Team of the NRC's Region I office on April l8 through April 29, 1988.A part of the NRC inspection
activities
consisted of a selective examination
of procedures
and representative
records.The NRC inspector, during his review of the Commonwealth
Edison Company's Special Process Procedure Manual (SPPM), made an observation
that the requirements
in Commonwealth
Edison Company's SPPM are not consistent
with or do not meet the intent of the SNT-TC-lA.
As a result, Mr.J.J.Harrison, NRC Region III, requested a written response to the item (No.50-265/88011/04)
in a letter dated June 21, 1988 to Mr.C.Reed, Commonwealth
Edison Company.The NRC Inspector's
observation
pertains to the so called"25%rule" in recommended
Practice No.SNT-TC-lA, June 1980 edition, published by American Society for Non-Destructive
Testing (ASNT)and the requirements
in the procedure 1-1-0, Rev.24 of Commonwealth
Edison's SPPM.The NRC inspector stated that the Commonwealth
Edison Company procedure in the SPPM has improperly
used the SNT-TC-1A 25%rule and that a possibility
exists that Commonwealth
Edison Company NDE personnel could fulfill certification
requirements
without satisfying
the ASME requirements
for minimum experience.
The conclusion
was based on the review of the certification
of one Commonwealth
Edison Company individual
who spent most of his worktime on Quality Control (QC)related activities
not involving actual application
of NDE.The NRC Inspector believed this individual
may have been certified using the 25%rule.The individual
referenced
here is actually certified as a"Radiographic
Interpreter", a special category of NDE personnel identified
in Commonwealth
Edison Company's SPPM.Commonwealth
Edison believes that application
of the 25%rule and qualification
requirements
of"RT Interpreters" are two separate issues and will be treated as such in our response which follows: Table 6.2.1A of SNT-TC-lA contains a statement,"credit for ezperience
spend at least~~r~<of his worktime on~discipline
for which experi-ence is being claimed." This provision has been incorporated
into procedure 1-1-0, paragraph 6.1.1 of Commonwealth
Edison Company's SPPM in which it is required that"an individual
may gain field experience
in~w or maxed NDE on~NDE method for which field experience
is being claimed".This clearly shows that Commonwealth
Edison Company's requirements
in the SPPM are consistent
with those in the SNT-TC-lA.  
l  
A review was performed, at the NRC's request, of the qualification
and certification
of all present and past Commonwealth
Edison Company personnel where the SNT-TC-1A 25%rule was used.The results of the review of the certification
records showed that, of the seventeen NDE inspectors
within the Commonwealth
Edison system, six work in System Materials Analysis Department (SMAD)which is a group dedicated full time to performing
NDE.The remaining eleven are assigned to various generating
stations.Of those eleven, eight are qualified and experienced
individuals
who were hired into Edison from outside NDE Companies.
It is our understanding
that the question of adequancy of training and experience
pertains to neither the SMAD NDE group nor with respect to experienced
inspectors
recruited from outside testing companies.
The question was raised in regard to those Commonwealth
Edison Company qualified individuals
who are not full time NDE personnel.
Our records show only three inspectors
who fall into this category.Two are certified to perform only penetrant testing (PT)and one is certified to perform PT and MT (magnetic particle testing).If the provision in the SPPM and SNT-TC-1A for simultaneous
qualification
using the 25%rule was to be used, it would have been in the case of this one individual
who is certified in both PT and MT.The review of his certification
showed that the 25'b rule'He had logged one month work experience
as defined in the SPPM for each discipline
gypsy.before he was certified as a Level 1 inspector.
He also worked an additional
two months as a Level 1 PT inspector before becoming a Level II PT inspector, and an additional
3 months as a Level 1 MT inspector before being certified as a Level II MT inspector.
Even though Commonwealth
Edison Company's SPPM provides for use of the 25 percent rule as stated above, a review of personnel Edison Company qualified inspectors.
A special subcategory
of NDE personnel certified as"Radiographic
Interpreter" is identified
in the SPPM.This special"RT Interpreter" category was created to develop individuals
who would have sufficient
knowledge of RT method to review radiographic
work done by outside testing contractors.
As specified in Commonwealth
Edison Company's"written practice" (SPPM), an"RT Interpreter's" duties are limited to reviewing the radiographic
work performed by the others to ensure that radiographs
are of good quality and that proper codes and standards have been followed and that defects have been properly identified
and evaluated.
These RT Interpreters
are neither trained to perform actual radiography
nor are they allowed to specify techniqes or test parameters.
We believe that with these limitations, the subcategory
of RT Interpreter, is acceptable
and meets the intent of the code because:It is permissible
according to the SNT-TC-1A recommended
practice to create subcategories
of NDE personnel depending upon the employer's
special needs provided the duties, responsibilities, qualifiction
requirements, and any limitations
on their certification
are described in the employers w  
b.Paragraph IWA-2300.a.3
of ASME Section XI, Winter 80 Addenda, states that,"........training
for NDE personnel who perform'f a non-destructive
examination
method that contains more than one operation, or who perform non-destructive
examination
of limited scope, may be less than that recommended
in Table 6'.1A of SNT-TC-lA We believe that reading and reviewing radiographs
is only one aspect of multiple tasks involved in radiographic
testing.Our RT Interpreters
receive extensive classroom training and they spend a minimum of three months reviewing r'ediographs
under the supervision
of an experienced
and certified RT person.Finally, they take a practical film interpretation
test to demonstrate
their ability to Commonwealth
Edison Company's Chief Level III before being certified as Level II RT Interpreter.
These Interpreters
played a valuable role in overviewing
quality of a voluminous
amount of RT work performed by the contractors
during Commonwealth
nuclear plant construction
program.Commonwealth
Edison's program for qualification
and certification
of the personnel involved in NDE related activities
was designed to provide various degrees of NDE expertise to fulfill our needs.In addition to SMAD's NDE group, all nuclear plants need some personnel in their QC, QA, ISI and Tech Staff groups to be familiar with some, if not all, aspects of NDE disciplines
in order to control the overall quality of the NDE work done at their respective
plants.Our program as defined in the SPPM provides rules for the training and certification
of those"limited" NDE personnel as well as defining the rules for qualification
of actual"Examiners
or Testers" which are, we believe, in strict accordance
with the ASME Code.The extensive review of personnel records showed that 25%rule was not applied in certification
of any of the NDE examiners.
The"RT Interpreters" subcategory
of NDE personnel is permissive
by the ASME Code and meets the intent of SNT-TC-lA recommended
practice.5015K
}}

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Responds to NRC 880621 Ltr Re Violations Noted in Insp Repts 50-254/88-10 & 50-265/88-11.Extensive Review of Personnel Records Showed That 25% Rule Not Applied in Certification of Any NDE Examiners.Adherence to ASME Code Requirements Met
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Issue date: 08/15/1988
From: Bliss H
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To: Davis A
NRC OFFICE OF INSPECTION & ENFORCEMENT (IE REGION III)
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AC CFLEMTED DISTRIBUTION DEMONSTRATION SYPH'EM r,P REGULATORY INFORMATION DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM (RIDS)ESSION NBR:8808300195 DOC.DATE: 88/08/15 NOTARIZED:

NO ACIL:50-254 Quad-Cities Station, Unit 1, Commonwealth Edison Co.50-265 Quad-Cities Station, Unit 2, Commonwealth Edison Co.AUTH.NAME AUTHOR AFFILIATION BLISS,H.E.

Commonwealth Edison Co.RECIP.NAME RECIPIENT AFFXLIATION Region 3, Ofc of the Director DOCKET I'5000254 05000265

SUBJECT:

Responds to NRC 880621 ltr re violations noted in Xnsp Repts 50-254/88-10

&50-265/88-11.

DISTRIBUTION CODE: IE01D COPIES RECEIVED:LTR 3 ENCL SIZE: TITLE: General (50 Dkt)-Insp Rept/Notice of Violation Response NOTES I D RECIPIENT ID CODE/NAME PD3-2 PD INTERNAL: ACRS DEDRO NRR/DLPQ/PEB 11 NRR/DOEA DIR 11 NRR/DREP/RPB 10 NRR/PMAS/ILRB12 0 ERMAN, J R G FIL 02 3~ILE 01 EXTERNAL: LPDR NSIC COPIES LTTR ENCL 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 RECIPIENT ID CODE/NAME ROSS,T AEOD NRR MORISSEAU,D NRR/DLPQ/QAB 10 NRR/DREP/EPB 10 NRR/DRIS DIR 9A NUDOCS-ABSTRACT OGC/HDS1 RES/DSIR DEPY-NRC PDR COPIES LTTR ENCL 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 A S A.D D.TOTAL NUMBER OF COPXES~REQUIRED: LTTR 25 ENCL 25

e Commonwealth Edison One First National Plaza, Chicago, illinois ress ep y to: ost ice ox Chicago, illinois 60690-0767 August 15, 1988 Mr.A.Bert Davis Regional Administrator U.ST Nuclear Regulatory Commission Region III 799 Roosevelt Road Glen Ellyn, IL 60137

Subject:

Quad Cities Station Units 1 and 2"Response to IE Inspection Report Nos.50-254/88010 and 50-265/88011"-2 Reference (a): Letter from J.J.Harrison to Cordell Reed dated June 21, 1988.

Dear Mr.Davis:

This letter is in response to the inspection conducted by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)Nondestructive Examination (NDE)Mobile Team of NRC's Region I Office on April 18 through April 29, 1988 of activities at Quad Cities Station Units 1 and 2.The referenced letter indicated that no violations of NRC requirements were identified in the course of the inspection.

However, the letter did require Commonwealth Edison Company to provide a written response to Unresolved Item No.50-265/88011-04 (use of SNT-TC-lA 25'b rule).The Inspection Report did not establish a date by which a response was required.In a July 15, 1988 telephone conversation between Ms.I.M.Johnson of my staff and Mr.D.Danielson of your staff, it was mutually agreed that a response would be supplied by August 15, 1988.The Commonwealth Edison Company response to that Unresolved Item is provided in Attachment A.office.If you have any questions regarding this matter, please contact this H.E.liss Nuclear Licensing Manager lm Attachment A cc: NRC Resident Inspector-Quad Cities 5015K 8808300195 880815 PDR ADOCK 05000254 0 PDC

V D A routine safety inspection of station activities at Quad Cities Station Unit l and 2 was conducted by the NRC NDE Mobile Team of the NRC's Region I office on April l8 through April 29, 1988.A part of the NRC inspection activities consisted of a selective examination of procedures and representative records.The NRC inspector, during his review of the Commonwealth Edison Company's Special Process Procedure Manual (SPPM), made an observation that the requirements in Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM are not consistent with or do not meet the intent of the SNT-TC-lA.

As a result, Mr.J.J.Harrison, NRC Region III, requested a written response to the item (No.50-265/88011/04) in a letter dated June 21, 1988 to Mr.C.Reed, Commonwealth Edison Company.The NRC Inspector's observation pertains to the so called"25%rule" in recommended Practice No.SNT-TC-lA, June 1980 edition, published by American Society for Non-Destructive Testing (ASNT)and the requirements in the procedure 1-1-0, Rev.24 of Commonwealth Edison's SPPM.The NRC inspector stated that the Commonwealth Edison Company procedure in the SPPM has improperly used the SNT-TC-1A 25%rule and that a possibility exists that Commonwealth Edison Company NDE personnel could fulfill certification requirements without satisfying the ASME requirements for minimum experience.

The conclusion was based on the review of the certification of one Commonwealth Edison Company individual who spent most of his worktime on Quality Control (QC)related activities not involving actual application of NDE.The NRC Inspector believed this individual may have been certified using the 25%rule.The individual referenced here is actually certified as a"Radiographic Interpreter", a special category of NDE personnel identified in Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM.Commonwealth Edison believes that application of the 25%rule and qualification requirements of"RT Interpreters" are two separate issues and will be treated as such in our response which follows: Table 6.2.1A of SNT-TC-lA contains a statement,"credit for ezperience spend at least~~r~<of his worktime on~discipline for which experi-ence is being claimed." This provision has been incorporated into procedure 1-1-0, paragraph 6.1.1 of Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM in which it is required that"an individual may gain field experience in~w or maxed NDE on~NDE method for which field experience is being claimed".This clearly shows that Commonwealth Edison Company's requirements in the SPPM are consistent with those in the SNT-TC-lA.

l A review was performed, at the NRC's request, of the qualification and certification of all present and past Commonwealth Edison Company personnel where the SNT-TC-1A 25%rule was used.The results of the review of the certification records showed that, of the seventeen NDE inspectors within the Commonwealth Edison system, six work in System Materials Analysis Department (SMAD)which is a group dedicated full time to performing NDE.The remaining eleven are assigned to various generating stations.Of those eleven, eight are qualified and experienced individuals who were hired into Edison from outside NDE Companies.

It is our understanding that the question of adequancy of training and experience pertains to neither the SMAD NDE group nor with respect to experienced inspectors recruited from outside testing companies.

The question was raised in regard to those Commonwealth Edison Company qualified individuals who are not full time NDE personnel.

Our records show only three inspectors who fall into this category.Two are certified to perform only penetrant testing (PT)and one is certified to perform PT and MT (magnetic particle testing).If the provision in the SPPM and SNT-TC-1A for simultaneous qualification using the 25%rule was to be used, it would have been in the case of this one individual who is certified in both PT and MT.The review of his certification showed that the 25'b rule'He had logged one month work experience as defined in the SPPM for each discipline gypsy.before he was certified as a Level 1 inspector.

He also worked an additional two months as a Level 1 PT inspector before becoming a Level II PT inspector, and an additional 3 months as a Level 1 MT inspector before being certified as a Level II MT inspector.

Even though Commonwealth Edison Company's SPPM provides for use of the 25 percent rule as stated above, a review of personnel Edison Company qualified inspectors.

A special subcategory of NDE personnel certified as"Radiographic Interpreter" is identified in the SPPM.This special"RT Interpreter" category was created to develop individuals who would have sufficient knowledge of RT method to review radiographic work done by outside testing contractors.

As specified in Commonwealth Edison Company's"written practice" (SPPM), an"RT Interpreter's" duties are limited to reviewing the radiographic work performed by the others to ensure that radiographs are of good quality and that proper codes and standards have been followed and that defects have been properly identified and evaluated.

These RT Interpreters are neither trained to perform actual radiography nor are they allowed to specify techniqes or test parameters.

We believe that with these limitations, the subcategory of RT Interpreter, is acceptable and meets the intent of the code because:It is permissible according to the SNT-TC-1A recommended practice to create subcategories of NDE personnel depending upon the employer's special needs provided the duties, responsibilities, qualifiction requirements, and any limitations on their certification are described in the employers w

b.Paragraph IWA-2300.a.3 of ASME Section XI, Winter 80 Addenda, states that,"........training for NDE personnel who perform'f a non-destructive examination method that contains more than one operation, or who perform non-destructive examination of limited scope, may be less than that recommended in Table 6'.1A of SNT-TC-lA We believe that reading and reviewing radiographs is only one aspect of multiple tasks involved in radiographic testing.Our RT Interpreters receive extensive classroom training and they spend a minimum of three months reviewing r'ediographs under the supervision of an experienced and certified RT person.Finally, they take a practical film interpretation test to demonstrate their ability to Commonwealth Edison Company's Chief Level III before being certified as Level II RT Interpreter.

These Interpreters played a valuable role in overviewing quality of a voluminous amount of RT work performed by the contractors during Commonwealth nuclear plant construction program.Commonwealth Edison's program for qualification and certification of the personnel involved in NDE related activities was designed to provide various degrees of NDE expertise to fulfill our needs.In addition to SMAD's NDE group, all nuclear plants need some personnel in their QC, QA, ISI and Tech Staff groups to be familiar with some, if not all, aspects of NDE disciplines in order to control the overall quality of the NDE work done at their respective plants.Our program as defined in the SPPM provides rules for the training and certification of those"limited" NDE personnel as well as defining the rules for qualification of actual"Examiners or Testers" which are, we believe, in strict accordance with the ASME Code.The extensive review of personnel records showed that 25%rule was not applied in certification of any of the NDE examiners.

The"RT Interpreters" subcategory of NDE personnel is permissive by the ASME Code and meets the intent of SNT-TC-lA recommended practice.5015K