ML20040D418

Transcript of Util Testimony by Wa Raymond on 811228 in San Francisco,Ca.Pp 440-447

ML20040D418
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Site:	Diablo Canyon
Issue date:	12/28/1981
From:	Raymond W PACIFIC GAS & ELECTRIC CO.
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2 NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION

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3 INVESTIGATION OF 4 DIABLO. CANYON UNITS 1 & 2 5 INTERVIEW OF.

6 WARREN A. RAYI1OND 7

8 9 Pacific Gas & Electric lieadquarters Offices 10 Law Department. Conference Room 77 Jeale Street San Francisco, California 11 12 Monday, December 28, 1981 13

The above-entitled matter came on for hearing, 14 ;; ursuant to notice at 5

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15 APPEARANCES:

16 On behalf of the NRC Staff:

17 OUEN C. SHACKLETON, JR., Moderator

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1 EEEEEEEIEEE MR. SHACKLETON: On the record. The time is now 5:27 p.m.

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3 This is December 28, 1981. This is an interview of Mr. Warren 4 A. Raymond. Mr. Raymond is manager of. quality assurance 5 for the Pacific Gas and Electric Company, and has been with the company for thirty-one years. This interview is taking place 6

7 in room 3101 of the corporate headquarters of the Pacific 8

Gas and Electric Company at 77'Beale Street, San Francisco, 9 California.

10 This interview is part of the investigation -being conducted by the United States duclear Regulatory Commission 11 12 to develop the facts and happenings surrouncing the present 13 reverification program of the seismic design of the Diablo

- Canyon nuclear power plant. In addition to Mr. Raymond, pre-34 sent from the U.S. Nuclear. Regulatory Commission, Region 5, 15 is Mr. Bobby H. Faulkenberry, - Chief of Reactor Construc'. ion 16 g Projects Branch.

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- 18 My name is Owen C. Shackleton, Jr., and I am a senior E

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i 20 Mr. Raymond, prior to our going on record, I dis-3 f 21 cussed with you your right to have private counsel present.

E Do you waive that right, sir?

MR. RAYMOND: I do.

23 MR. SHACKLETON: Thank you.

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1 Whereupon, 2 WARREN A. RAYMOND, 3 having been first duly sworn, was called as a witness herein 4 and was examined and testified ao follows:

5.  !!R. SCHACKLETON: Please be seated. I'would ask 6

of you, as a matter of record, Mr. Raymond, that your testi-mony that is given here be kept confidential. Is that under-7 8: stood, sir?

9 fir. RAYMOND: That is understood.

liR. SHACKLETON: Thank you. At this time, I will 10 11 turn the questioning period over to Mr. Faulkenberry.

MR. FAULKENBERRY: fir. Raymond, for the record, will 12 13 y u please state you position with the Pacific Gas and Electri c (4 ..

Company?

34 MR. RAYMOND: I am manager of quality ~ assurance.

MR. FAULKENBERRY: Mr. Raymonf, did'you-attend both

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at Bethesda, Maryland?

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! MR. RAYMOND: No, I did not. I attended the November j ,g I

a j 20 3rd ,eeting only.

-g y liR. FAULKENBERRY: Zir. Raymond, it has been determined

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$ that four separate draf t reports of Dr. Cloud's work were sub-nittcd to PG&E. These draft reports were submitted to PG&E on l the approximate dates of October 21st, October 26st, November i 24 l

.the 6th and November 12th, 1981. Now my question is, prior to

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1 November 3rd, 1981, were you aware that-PG&E had received 2 either the October 21 of the October 26 draft report from hsh 3 Dr. Cloud?

4 MR. RAYMOND: No, I was not.

5 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Have you since been made aware

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6 that these draft reports were submitted by Dr. Cloud to PG&E?

7 MR. RAYMOND: Since, yes.

8 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Could you tell us approximately 9 when you became aware of this fact?

10 MR. RAYMOND: At about the time it was in the news-11 paper.

12 MR. FAULKEN BERRY: Could you give us an approximation 13 of that time?

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14 MR. RAYMOND: It would be approximately two weeks ago, 15 I think, now. In that timeframe.

16 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Mr. Raymond, while at the Novem-a

. 17 ber 3rd, 1981 meeting, did you hear the statements made by

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20 f the November 3rd meeting, which I am showing you?

f 21 MR. RAYMOND: Am I aware of those comments?

I MR. FAULKENBERRY: Did you hear them?

22 MR. RAYMOND: Yes, I heard those.

23 24 MR. FAULKENBERRY: At anytime during this meeting, k- 25 the November 3rd meeting, when these statements were being made, in your own mind, did you have any feeling that these state-

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1 ments could possibly be orroneous_or misleading?

2 MR. RAYMOND: No, I did not.

(AI 3 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Mr. Raymond, did you attend any 4 of the meetings held by PG&E representatives on Saturday,.

5 October 31st, Sunday, N0vember 1st, and Monday, November 2nd, 6

which were the meetings held by PG&E representatives prior to 7

the Hovember 3rd, 1981 meeting with the NRC? At these pre-8 meetings, did you ever hear any conversations regarding 'he 9 draft reports that Dr. Cloud has submitted to PG&E?

MR. RAYMOND: I was present at the meetings. I faintly-10 3,

remember some type of a comment, I believe made by Mr. Norton, I

12 but I cannot remember all of the details that were involved 13 in that.

MR. FAULKENBERRY: Could you give us your best re-14 m mbrance of what this comment was made by Mr. Norton?

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or asking questions related to when the repot would be sub- .,

37 mitted to the NRC, and what was the status of the report. But

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e cannot remember who the question was directed to or what the j '19 Y answers were.

j 20 5 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Mr. Raymond, when you refer to the

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report, do you recall whether or not there was any adjective 22 to describe that report? Did it have any particular identifi-cation other than just the word " report?"

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MR. RAYMOND: I don't remember any specific

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identification,'no.

'2 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Mr. Raymond, does;Mr. Kahler, h'-

3 Edwin R. Kahler, report to you?

4 MR. RAYMOND: No, he does not.

5 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Mr. Raymond, at any time during the November 3rd meeting, which you attended, including the lunch-break, did you hear any conversations regarding the draf:

7 reports that Dr. Cloud had submitted to PG&E?

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MR. RAYMONDf: No, I did not. Number one, I was sitting at the far end of the table from Mr. Norton and Mr. Furbish ;n and the rest of them, and we were engaged.in our own discussion I

which.was not related to.the activities at hand.

MR. FAULKENBERRY:- Okay. Mr Raymond, you have stated 13 g that you were not aware of the October 21st or October 21st draft reports by Dr. Cloud, untill you read about them in the 15 newspapers. Have you ever seen these draft reports?

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MR. RAYMOND: I cannot recollect having seen them.

I 17 I want to clarify on point, when I answered no, I was not aware of them -- you mentioned the four different draft re-

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f a report was in the company and was being circulated for

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do know, I am quite positive I, myself, did not make any comments on that' report.

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1 of November?

- 2 .MR. RAYMOND:- 'Toward the middle part of November.

3 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Tha.t was after the November 3rd 4 meeting?

5 MR. RAYMOND: That was after the November 3rd meeting.

6 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Okay. To the best of your know-7 ledge, do you recall having seen the October drafts?

8 MR. RAYMOND: No, I do not.

9 MR. FAULKENBERRY: Okay, Mr. Raymond, that is-the 10 extent of the questions that I have. Do you have anything to 11 add, Owen?

12 MR. SHACKLETON: I have no additional questions.

13 Mr. Raymond, do you have any comments you would like to make

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14 concernign your response to the questions or any additional 15 comments you would like to add to the record?

16 MR. RAYMOND: None, other than I would like_.to a

j 17 clarify that what I have just-previously said, that I was not 2

- 18 aware of the number of drafts as have been described being a

j 19 submitted to PG&E, but I did know that there was a draft and i l-I knew not which number -- I didn't even identify with a 20 l-d number -- toward the middle part of November. But those draft

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23 MR. SHACKLETON: Thank you very much. The time is 24 not 5:37 p.m. Off the record.

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