ML20040D419
| ML20040D419 | |
| Person / Time | |
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| Site: | Diablo Canyon  |
| Issue date: | 12/28/1981 |
| From: | Locke R PACIFIC GAS & ELECTRIC CO. |
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| NUDOCS 8202010276 | |
| Download: ML20040D419 (7) | |
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UNITED' STATES OF AMERICA ~
2' NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 3
INVESTIGATION OF 4
DIABLO CANYON UNITS 1 & 2 5
INTERVIEW OF 6
RICHARD F. LOCKE 7
8 Pacific Gas & Electric Headquarters Offices 9
Law Department Conference Room 77 Beale Street 10 San Frncisco, California 11
- Monday, December 28, 1981 12 13
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The above-entitled matter came on for hearing, 14 pursuant to notice at 5:48 p.m.
15 APPEARANCES:
16 On behalf of the NRC staff:
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17 18 i-OWEN SHACKLETON, JR., Moderator j
19 B. H.
FAULKENBERRY
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ERRATA SHEET Interview of Richard F. Locke, December 28, 1981
-The following corrections should be made:
Page'451, Line 13 - Change pelase to please.
Page 452 Line 10 - Change arounf to around.
Page 452, Line 13 - Change pr-cisely to precisely.
Page 455, Line 17 - Change trnsmittal-to transmittal.
The above corrections were identified by Richard F. Locke and Bobby H. Faulkenberry.
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.D' MR. SHACKLETON:
On the record.
It is December 28, 3
1981.
The time is now 5:48 p.m..This is an interview of 4
4 Mr. Richard F.
Locke, senior counsel for the law department of 5
Pacific Gas and Electric Company.
This interview is.taking 6
place in room 3101 of the corporate headquarters of-the Pacific 7
Gas and Electric Company, at 77 Beale Street, San Francisco, 8
The purpose of this interview of Mr. Locke is g
part of the ivestigation being conducted by the U.S.
Nuclear 10 Regulatory Commission to develop the facts and happenings g
surrounding the present reverification program of the seismic 12 design of the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant.
13 e9 In addition to Mr. Locke being present, present from
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i4 the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Region 5, is Mr. Bobby H. Faulkenberry, Chief of Reactor Construction Projects Branch.
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My name is Owen C.
Shackleton, Jr.,
and I am the senior in-vestigator assigned to Region 5.
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with you our procedure and advised you that you have the right g
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f to have personal legal counsel present.
Do you waive that 21 right, sir?
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Yes, I do.
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MR. SHACKLETON:
All right.
Would you please stand
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for the oath.
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i-Whereupon, 2
RICHARD F. LOCKE, k, -
3 having been furst duly sworn, was called as a witness herein and was examined and testified as follows:
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MR. SHACKLETON: ~ Please be seated.
I would remind y u again, Mr. Locke, that we have requested, on the.part of 6
the Commission, each member of PG&E who is being interviewed 7
to keep the testimony that you are about to give here confiden-8 tial.
Is that understood?
9 MR. LOCKE:
-Yes, it is.
10 MR. SHACKLETON:
Thank you.
Mr. Paulkenberry?
jj MR. FAULKENBERRY:
Mr..Locke, for the record, would 12 you pelase state your position with the Pacific Gas.& Electric 13 Company?
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Yes, I am senior counsel in the law depart-15 men acific Gas & Electric Company.
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MR. FA5aKENBERRY:
Mr. Locke, did you attend both the j
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October 9th and the November 3rd, 1981 meetings with the NRC at 18 Bethesda, Maryland?
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MR. LOCKE:
Yes, I did.
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MR. FAULKENBERRY :
Mr. Locke, it has been determined i
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E that four separate draft reports of Dr. Cloud's work were submitted to PGLE.
These draft reports were submitted to PG&E on the approximate dates of October 21st, October 26st, November 6th and November 12th, 1981.
Now my question is, s
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I prior to November 3rd, 1981, were you aware that PG&E had 2
received the October 21st and October 26st draft reports from
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3 Dr. Cloud?.
4 MR. LOCKE:
No, I wasn't.
5 MR. FAULKENBERRY:
Have you since been made aware of 6
the fact that the October 21 and October 26th draft reports 7
have been received by PG&E?
8 MR. LOCKE:
Yes.
As part of this investigation I was 9
notified -- I am trying to remember the date -- that these two 10 drafts existed, and I believe it was arounf the tenth or eleventh or twelfth of December, whatever the Monday following, ti 12 I believe, some sort of a message was received by the company 13 asking for certain information.
I am not sure pr-cisely when
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that date was.
4 MR. FAULKENBERRY:
If I understand you correctly, 15 Mr. Locke, you had not seen either of these two draf ts, the 1
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ng 10th time period?
,I MR. LOCKE:
That's correct, yes.
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Mr. Locke, while you were in 20 attendance at the Novcmber 3rd meeting, did.you hear the 21 i
statements that were made by Mr. Maneatis, Mr. Norton and E
22 Dr. Cloud, as regarding Dr. Cloud's draft reports, as contained 23 n Pages 215 through 218 of the transcript of the November 3rd 24 k
meeting, as I am showing you here?
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1 MR. LOCKE:
I have read the transcript from pages 2
215 to 218, yes.
3 MR. FAULKENBERRY:Mr. Locke,_the question is, while 4
in attendance at the meeting, dk) you recall hearing the state-5-ments made by Mr. Maneatis, Mr. Norton and Dr. Cloud?
MR. LOCKE:- I_believe I recollect, yes, hearing the 6-7 statements.
8 MR. FAULKENBERRY:
When you heard these statements 9
at the meeting, were you aware at the time that these statement s
could have possibly been erroneous or misleading to the NRC?
to MR. LOCKE:
No, I was not.
11 MR. FAULKENBERRY:
Mr. Locke, did you attend any of 12 the meetings held by_PG&E personnel on Sunday, October 31st --
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14 excuse me, Saturday, October the 31st, Sunday, November 1st, r Monday, November 2nd, which were the pre-November 3rd 15 meetings?
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Yes, I attended all of them, to-the best h.
17 of my recollection.
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While in attendance at these j
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m etings, did you hear any conversations regarding the. draft 20 a
t reports that Dr. Cloud submitted to PG&E?
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The only thing I heard was a presenta-22 tion by Dr. Cloud of his testimony, as he was going to give 23 it, the next -- whenever the meeting was.
I did not hear any 24
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discussion about the existence of a draft document, which I 25
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have come to understand as being the October 21 and October 2
26 drafts.
3 MR. FAULKENBERRY:
Okay, Mr. Locke, as a result of 4
the conversations that took place at these meetings, was 5
there any conversation that you heard that would lead you to 6
believe that there were draft reports in existence that had 7
been submitted to PG&E7 i
8 MR. LOCKE:
Not at that time, no.
I was listening, 9
like everybody else, to the presentation of Mr. Cloud -- Dr.
10 Cloud -- as to what he was going to be presenting to the staff at that meeting, which had been called by the Commission staff 11 I think about four or five days prior to that time, 12 l
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Mr. Locke, at any-time during tha
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November 3rd meeting, including during the lunch period, did i
you hear any conversations by PG&E personnel or anyone else, 15 regarding the draft reports that Dr. Cloud had submitted to 16 e
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No, I did not.
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- Mr..Locke, that..is the extent of the j
19 Ji questions that I have.
Owen, do you have anything to add?
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f MR. SHACKLETON:
No, I have no questions.
Mr. Locke, 21 is.there anything that you would like to readdress or any 22 i
.f additional comments you would like to make for tre record?
23 MR. LOCKE:
The only other comment I would like to 24
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make for the record is that I was aware of a draft program 25
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1 plan _ prior to tha Noven?ber 3rd menting, which document I 2
signed off on by way of a transmittal letter, to the NRC staff,
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3 and I believe that that document was hand delivered that morning.
4 I recall signing it about three-thirty in the morning, still 5
during our meeting.
That is the only document that I am aware 6
of that existed prior to November 3rd meeting, and I believe 7
I had seen that document several days before in some sort of 8
draft form, and then it was ultimately filed with the Commissio n s
9 staff on that date.
I believe I signed off and gave it to I 10. believe Mr. Lew, and he made arrangements to have it carried 11 over to the NRC staff.
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Okay, just for the record, I l
13 believe that what you are referring to is the draft program P an that was dated October 26th, which was submitted to the l
1-4 NRC from PG&E.
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MR. LOCKE:
I think that -- I am not sure of the 16 2
date but it was a trnsmittal letter.
I have it in my files.
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staff on November 3rd, 1981, and I believe it was hand carried j
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that same day, the date of the letter itself.
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MR. FAULKENBERRY:
Okay, thank you, Mr. Locke.
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Z MR SHACKLETON:
Thank you, mr. Locke.
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