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UNITED STATES Or AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION in the matter of:

Interview of James B. Sweet Docket No.

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Court Reponers 1625 I Street N.W. Suite 1004 Washington, D.C. 20006 (202) 293-3950

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Interview of James B.

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This is an interview of Mr. James, middle 3-initial "B" as in Baker, Sweet.

The~1ast name is spelled 4

S-w-e-e-t.

5 Mr. Sweet is an electrician presently working for 6

Bechtel Power Corporation assigned to the Palo Verde Nuclear 7

Generating Station in Arizona.

8 Present to conduct this interview from the U.S.

9 Nuclear Regulatory Commission is Mr. E. J.

Power and myself, 10 Owen C. Shackleton, both of whom are investigators for 11-Region V of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

12 Mr. Sweet, do we have your permission to tape 13 record this interview?-

14 MR. SWEET:

Yes.

15 INTERVIEWER:

Thank you.

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4 Next situation I want to address is the spiking of 5

quality product safety-related cables and we have an allegation 6

tht there was a -circumstance in the -- where some quality 7

class cable got damaged by welder's slag, dropped out of the 8

tray and burned and some and rather than pull the 9

cable, one of the guys involved got a kit and repaired it to and never got GC involved or never did any paperwork and 11 never got it from there.

12 Have you ever heard of-any situation like that?

i 13 MR. SWEET:

No, that's hard to be'ieve that a QC 14 would (inaudible).

15 INTERVIEWER:

You don't get involved.yourself in 16 any --

17 MR. SWEET:

No, I've just noticed it.

In-fact, 18 it would bother me to have a man looking over my shoulder all 19 the time.

20 INTERVIEWER: Yeah.

21 So, the next one, in view of the first one we got the doctor to start up, one of the allegations we have and.

22 23 maybe you have experienced it when you were working high 24 voltage terminations, but guys were told, they are coming 25 back in areas where they work and their work has been bought I

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off and finding that (inaudible) have been feterminated by

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'somebody or maybe put back and not put back'in a neat fashion.

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.Some people we have talked to have said, well,

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_of it.

Is it a problem or not a problem here in yourLexperi-6 ence?

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MR. SWEET:

No, it wasn't a' problem.

I have seen' 8

it done maybe once or twice.

There wasn't any problem since 9

we go ahead and fix it, you know.

We terminated like a large 1

10 motor, something like'that, and a few weeks la'ter there'd be

11 some problem.

They wouldn't tell us what it was because we

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. cables or something and reterminate-it again.

14 There's been very little reterminating, usually~

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lil-the startup, usually~from my experience I< haven't-seen men.

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17 really becoming (inaudible) in high voltage.

18 INTERVIEWERi-If they do as part of personnel

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19 (inaudible) ado they have to' have a r.etermination (inaudible).

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i:N MR. SWEET: -The 'way-I understand it, _any cable that 21 is f.eterminated here is. supposed to have a card on-it.

I r terminated several.and I had to get a card to do it.

-M-e 23 I' don't know if everyone does that.

That is the 24 procedures.

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Yeah, yeah.

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,The next subject was-the improper --

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2 t'heluse of~ improper insulation on high voltage. termination.

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-Do.you: understand that-up~until approximatly;a' i

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. yea r.- ago, you~ fellows.used.a material called Schotch Fill'2200

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.that material was leaking and coming out 'through your.wrppping 7l

.and-then they changed 130-C.

8 Were you involved in some of that?

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MR. SWEET:~ Yeah,lI was.

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Did you; fel' lows'have a retrofit

- 11 program? Did you have:to go bac'k.on quality class work.and 12 redo it ' or ' not?.

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to use,_-we1 knew it was the' wrong one, but they1said this 15 has been substituted,-has-been okayed and' substituted for

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what we were supposed..tosuse.. It is okay to use, Iso we went' y

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aheadcand-'used it and~it did -- we did have.a problem with it'

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'but someone else~did it,'what was to be done and:that's about-

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1 INTERVIEWER:

Do you know whether or not any 2

NC. audits were written uplon it?

3 MR. SWEET:

I'm sure they were.

4 INTERVIEWER:

But as-far as you are concerned when 5

you were personally involved, everything was done according-6 to --

7 MR. SWEET:

Right --

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8 INTERVIEWER: paperwork was there --

9 MR. SWEET:

And Reggie wasn't to blame because it 10 came down to him, whoever okayed.

11 INTERVIEWER: That's why we're trying to tie some 12

.-of these down because.we'have heard from a couple of_ people f

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incompetent electricians, 14 Bechtel for one reason or another wants their own way.

15 MR. SWEET:

Anything that'has been done, if there

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16 has been any question at all to my knowledge has been redone.

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- You know, there has been a.few things that was questionable 18 but then they come back --

19 INTERVIEWER:

They come back where?

20 MR. SWEET:

They even pull new cable in and you

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22 INTERVIEWER:

They let you make up for it, won't 23 they?

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two bolt lug on the end of them and sometimes you go and i.

2 connect it.to a motor and the thicker head has a one-bolt 3

lug connecting?

4 Did you ever run into that situation where you 5-had a two-bolt lug to a one-bolt lug?

6 MR. SWEET:

Well, yeah, I've run into it but we 7

didn' t use a two-bolt lug.

We made our own lugs to fit the 8

motor.

If it's the wrong lug on there, we cut it off and 9

put a new one on.

We'd either drill it, use a blank. lug and to drill.it to fit or if there is a.two-bolt lug, we cut it off 11 and used the one bolt that would fit properly.

12-We never connected them like that.

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13 INTERVIEWER: 'Did you ever have to fill,the void?

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MR. SWEET: There really wasn't any void.

15 INTERVIEWER:

No, I meant -- yeah, you never left

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No, no.

18 INTERVIEWER:

That was the allegation..

19 MR. SWEET:

I'd say that wasn't done, either one.

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.If it was done, it was done (inaudible) because like I say 21

~just (inaudible)1was.there and I know none of the guys.would M

.do that.

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Horace Hall, George Miller,ffinaudible) 24 Bill Coloni, Bob Hendrickson, Gerry Lefebre -- who is the 5

other1one? Couldn't say. Isn't that something?

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Is that the roster there?

2 INTERVIEWER: Yeah.

This crew has changed so much

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it's -- Gunderson, Coctello -- was-he high voltage?

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f.',h yeah, Bob Otello -- he, see I quit, 5

that-was the.8th -- Sohn Coctello and went down 8th.

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. INTERVIEWER: He's gone and Gunderson's'gone.

7 MR.-SWEET:

And then when I cuit, they replaced me,

-8 two guys came in the crew and then they started' pushing pretty 9

often bu't we were.in there~together.

for almost'a J10 year and a half.

i 11-Oh, and Lew -- Polish name or. Bohemian name ---

12 boy, I was (inaudible) on one.

I worked with the guy all of ht

- 13 the time and I can't think of his name.

He is in Unit.3 now.

14 INTERVIEWER:

I'll see if I can find out.

15 INTERVIEWER:

Cary Wallerstein?

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Well, he used to do terminations but 17 -

not high voltage.

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INTERVIEWER: We don't have any Lew's. Let me go cn1 here.

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Okay..Costello took his place, I.be -

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I am not even really sure about that.

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The next question, Jim, relates to 23 the-QC people who -are inspecting the work being performed.

24 by-the wiremen.

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1 adequate training to do their iob?

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I've always been associated with three 3

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and you know I'd say they are very good.

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INTERVIEWER: Are you wor' king on' Unit 2 now?

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Yes.

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. INTERVIEWER: But you did the high Voltage"tsrmiha-7 tions (inaudible).

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Right.

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INTERVIEWER:

How about the QC over there?

10 MR. - SWEET:

Yeah, they, they were good.

11 INTERVIEWER:

Who did-you know?

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13 really don't remember'their names.

I didn't get familiar with 14 them.on Unit 1 as I had on Unit 2 for some reason.

I became 15 friends with a couple of them on Unit 2; Unit 1 they were 16 just in the way all the time.

Maybe I got used to them, I 17 don't know.

' 18 INTERVIEWER: -Do you feel that QC either in Unit 1 19 or Unit 2, from-vhat you observed on site, are able to work N

intependent from construction and freely do their job without 21 being intimidated?

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Oh yeah, they do.

23 INTERVIEWER:

When~you were working, well,.let's 24 start out by, I don't know enough what I am talking about, ado 25 you do high filing and startup?

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MR. SWEET:

Yes, uh-hmm.

2-INTERVIEWER:

One of the allegations we have is-3

. observations made by some people is.that their feeling that 4

there has been excessive high' filing on the same cables.

5 Have you observed this where there has been exces-6.

sive high filing?

7 MR. SWEET: Yes, definitely.

On Unit 1.

8 INTERVIEWER:

On Unit l?

-9 Can-you give us some details of where this was-10 observed-and was it on a quality class line?'

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It was out in the manholes, the (inaudible) 1 13 and we did -- first of all, the cables had a lot of moisture 14 in them. We dried them out and this took quite a while. When 15 I found them first, and then we dried them out and then we 16-high filed them again -- anyway some of the cables were high-

-17 potted maybe three or four times and I don't'think they recom-18 mend over twice, I'm not sure about that.

19 It's a 750 NCN cable and they definitely were high 20 -

potted too much.

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Was this brought to the attention 22 of management, namely say anything to the foreman about it?

23 MR. SWEET:

Oh, well, yeah, they knew about it.

24 INTERVIEWER: 'Why was it done so many times?

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Because of the extent of the moisture.

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Had to dry them out to get a good --

3 MR. SWEET:

Right, and I believe that we spliced

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.~them and I believe some of them were cut out and.repulled.

5 I am.not sure about that.

I didn' t have anything to do -with 6

that but-I believe-they.were.

7 INTERVIEWER:

Who was the foreman on the iob?

8 MR. SWEET: -Richard Keith was the.high voltage 9

termination (inaudible).

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This was bas'ically all non-safety 11 related?

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Yeah, it's non-class.

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How about on the startup,.

14 are-you required to do the same documentation on the high 15 pot?-

16 MR. SWEET:

I-imagine the foreman is.

We don't.

17 INTERVIEWER:

You don't directly?

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Okay.

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He did it right there.

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Even though it was not safety-related ?

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Right.

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this excessive moisture in the 4

water, how did that come about?

Improper storage or what?.

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Well, the manholes, they had a lot of 6'

rain that winter _and the manholds just got flooded.--

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I:see.

8 MR. SWEET:' -- and the end of the cables in some 9

way or another soaked up the moisture.

10 INTERVIEWER:

Did ypu pull'the moisture out through 11 the. casing?

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Well, we pumped oxygen -_ nitrogen and 13 got'it out.

14 INTERVIEWER:

The next subject has to do with in-15 stallation of conduits, connections in the control building 16 in the 100 foot elevation and the concern expressed here was 17 there was an admission of the use of o rings in many cases,

18 that there were no O rings available.

ii 19 Do you know anything about that subject.

20 MR. SWEET:

No, you'd have to get up on top of the 21

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I had no reason to get up there.

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I can see and I asked a QC man about it, cushions on the 1

23 intaide of the cabinets on_the nipples coming down, I asked _

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right to me.

4 INTERVIEWER: 'Do-you remember any discussion about 5

the shortage of O rings?

'6 MR.. SWEET:

No.

I hadn't heard a thing about it.

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Okay.

8-The next subject, Jim, has to deal with damaged 9

conduit from drilling and not b'ing properly repaired.

What-e 10 we are talking about here, we had a allegation that in the 11 aux building there was-some drilling going through some of the 12 walls and they were they were taking the cords out and put-13-(inaudible) conduit and apparently the guys doing th,e. drilling 14

' hit the conduit and did some damage?

15 MR. SWEET:

I don't know anything about that either.

16 INTERVIEWER:

Who does -- the way we understand,

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That is done by-18 '

.comeone else, I would think?

19 MR. SWEET:

The core drilling is contracted defi-20 nately I guess.

It's just --

21 IN%ERVIEWER: 'Do you know the name of the contractor?'

'M MR. SWEET:

I hope so.

I've seen the truck _enough.

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I can't think of it.

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3 Is that done by the wiremen or --

4 MR. SWEET: That.would.be our work, yes.

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INTERVIEWER:

Do you have patching ~ crews'that you 6

know of that when you work on ---

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I'll tell you the truth, I've never 8

' heard of anybody who was patching conduits, is that 9

what you want, a (inaudible) conduit?

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Yeah.

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I don't know any way of patching 12 (inaudible) conduit.

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Have you ever run into an Offstadt?

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Offstadt?

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Yeah, guy by that name, close to it, 16 Offstadt, Mike Offstadt?

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No.

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Nobody involved in patching?

19 INTERVIEWER:

Bob Lunt?

Known as'-- he has a nick-20 name?

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Lunt -- I' don't think'I know him at all.

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Now you're working over in 2 now, we 25

. have an allegation in 2 that down on the lower level, we don' t hi G'

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-have any~ specific detail-of anything but the way I understand 2

it, unit struts were used for supporting the table trays or 3

piping when they're welded in place and they go on there, 4

~ attached to an embed plate and the QC inspector'makes an in-5 spection and as-I understand it, he has a dolly he strikes 6

with a hammer and makes his symbol on the embed plate to show 7

he's bought off.

8 And we have been told that there has been~some 9

hard feelings between some of the craf ts and QC, some of the 10 crafts and some of the construction foremen and they're modi-11 fying some of the unit struts after they're bought off --

12 which is apparently supposed to be pretty obvious so it gets 13 the QC or the foreman in trouble.

14 Have you heard anything about'that?

15 MR. SWEET: No.

16 A lot of times there is hard feelings between those 17 craftsmen and QC, the QC guy's been hired off the street. You 18 '

have got these welders in, welding for 20 30 years and 19 the-QC. man tells him the weld's not right or something like 20 that, you are just bound to get hard feelings.

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Oh, sure, yeah --

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But generally --

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The last item, Jim, doesn't relate 24 to work itself but a problem-we face all over the country, M

the use of controlled drugs.

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1 We have an allegation that there is an excessive 2

amount of controlled drugs, primarily marijuana, but also 3

hashish, cocaine and some of the amphetamines like black

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5 What is your experience >and observations?

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I've seen a little bit of pot and I've 7

seen a few guys drink a'little bit.

Overall, I've seen less 8

cn1 this job than I have any job I've ever been on -- of these 9

jobs.

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Umm-hmm.

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I suppose it is here but boy -- and I've 12.

worked all over.

I have refused to work with a guy who smokes 13 -

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I don't work with him, or if he drinks and only one 14 time.that I have worked with a guy that started to smoke pot 15 and I did the work with him and that was it.

16 INTERVIEWER:

Is that guy still here?

17 MR. SWEET: No.

18 INTERVIEWER:

Jim, this is only for my own edifi-19

_- cation, what does Manson do?

What does the union do if some-N-

body -- if you don't want to work for somebody, you have to 21 go1back.

  • and say for whatever reason I am not' happy with M

.the guy I am assigned to work with.

Does the union take any-Eh action?

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Oh, if you take it (inaudible).

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is not for me -- what happens?

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Well, personally I wouldn't tell the 5

foreman he's drinking, I'd just say I ' don' t' want to work':si~th 6

the guy, personality conflict or if he is falling down drunk 7

I'd tell the foreman to get him off the job or I'd get him 8 -

off the job or something.

g As far as telling the foreman that he is drinking to or. smoking pot, I'd only leave it unless he was -- he might 11-hurt someone, but like I say I wouldn't work with him but 12 I.wouldn't go tell if they were doing it either. I mean that's 13 me_ personally.

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We're prepared.

We've heard the 16 comments before. A good portion of them -- don't want to work 17 with

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individual?

Do they carry him or do they force him off the 21 site one way or another?

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Eventually they are fired, yeah.

You 23 take a guy that drinks on the job.

He's going to --

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He is just not going.to last.

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Well, yeah, yeah, well --

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Some guy sees.one sale'maybe.. It's just hard to

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A lot of times you'll '.have - a '. crew of

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Are you1 satisfied that it's satisfactory?

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The workmanship?

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Umm-hmm.

5 MR. SWEET:

The conduit overall is' good, I have 6

seen better but it's good.

On.a job that's IG got such a 7

turnover, especially with Bechtel -- most people don't like 8-that and Bechtel with all their rules -- I don' t mean --

9 every nuclear power has rules and regulations but Bechtel, t,

10 they keep things stirred up all the time with the men.

They 11 think the men ~are scared of the job or something they'll do 12 better work.

I don't know what there philosophy is but every

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14 and therefore you have a heck of a big turnover plus when 15 you have as many quit, Bechtel makes money, when they hire 16 and fire or a guy quits, Bechtel makes money each time a 17 gater comes in.

They like that too.

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But even with the big turnover and all that, I 19 would say the workmanship was above average.

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and everything, procedures, everything -- in fact it drives 24 you crazy sometimes but they are really super about it, I

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Jim, is there any concerns that you 2

might have that you feel that our engineers when they are 3

out doing their inspection ought to be looking into where 4

maybe not giving enough' attention now?

5 MR. SWEET:

I am really_not familiar with what you 6

guys -- in fact or anything else --

7 INTERVIEWER:' Okay, our engineers get into primarily 8

almost exclusively to the safety-related items, those things 9

if they went haywire could endanger the health and safety of 10 the public or the people working in the plant, so during the 11 construction period that is what they are looking into.

12 Okay, I don't have any-additional questions.

13 Jim, I appreciate very much your giving us your 14 time and we will bring this interview to a close and the time End 15 is now approximately 11:47 in the morning on June 28th, 1982.

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