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Transcript of Interview of Rc Ruff on 820715 Re Allegations. Pp 1-7
ML20128N374
Person / Time
Site: Palo Verde  Arizona Public Service icon.png
Issue date: 07/15/1982
From: Ruff R
BECHTEL GROUP, INC.
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Shared Package
ML20079P594 List:
References
FOIA-83-161, FOIA-83-A-9 NUDOCS 8506030252
Download: ML20128N374 (8)


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! UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION -

In the matter of:

' Interview of Robert C. Ruff-, Sr.

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Thank you.

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' 90 your'name was involved.

Out'of-all~the allegations'made by 21 this one individual',-who'was formerly an. electrician on the 22 site, was his concern about a ~one bolt lug -b'eing connect-to 1

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'I think'their training here is satis-22 factory to meet our requirements.

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-INTERVIEWER: _ But the question is, is it adequate 20 for the work tihey have to perform?

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a close and the time is now 1:08 p.m.

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