ML20128N002
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| Issue date: | 06/28/1982 |
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5 Mr. Goldberg is a senior construction engineer F
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Nuclear Generating Station.
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Nuclear Regulatory Commission is Mr.
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Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
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Yes, sir.
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Thank you.
16 Why don't you go ahead?
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Would you give a short dissertation is on what'your duties entail here and.now they. interrelate to 19 the crafts?
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Yes, sir, its cable cooling and I 21 get cable cool cards and (tape stops abruptly).
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-- any intentional 23 damage?
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