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Partially Withheld Transcript of 841115 Interview to Provide Feedback Re Technical Review Team Assessment of Concerns
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2 TECHNICAL REVIEW TEAM

' TECHNICAL INTERVIEW 4

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9 The interview was commenced at 7:30 p.m.

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' 11 MR. CHARLES HAUTHNEY U. S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission 2

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for the purpose of providing feedback regarding the 4

Technical Review Team's assessment of certain concerns 5 raised about the Comanche Peak facility. The location of 6

this interview is -

7 and the date is November 15, 1984 8

and the time is 19:33 central standard time.

Present at this interview are myself, Mr. Charles I

10 Hauthney, representing the Technical Review Team, Mr.

11 Conrad McCracken from the head of thc Coatings Group for 12 the Technical Review Team, Mr. William Wells, who's on the Coatings Group, and his counsel.

MR. JORDAN: Carl Jordan.

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'MR. HAUTHNEY: Carl Jordan.

Okay. As agreed prior to the meeting, this meeting 17 is being transcribed.

18 Let ne just briefly describe and remind you of what 19 the mission of the Technical Review Team has been. It's 20 been to examine concerns or issues raised about the 21 design and construction of the Comanche Peak station and 22 to determine the merits of those concerns and ultimat.ely 23 their safety significance and whether any corrective action' s 24 been required. So that's been our basic charter.

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7 And at Comanche Peak?

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Charlie, excuse me for a second. I meant 10 MR. JORDAN:

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Should we go off the record?

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2 turn over the presentation to Mr. Wells.

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4 MR. WELLS: Okay. Our team looked at the coatings and 5

paints area at Comanche Peak and we were investigating 6

specific concerns that were raised by individuals or that 7

arose as a result of the discussions with various 8

individuals and based on our investigations of those 9

concerns we also expanded our investigation and made an 10 evaluation of the overall coatings program at Comanche 11 Peak.

12 We have found certain substantive additional 13 deficiencies in the coatings area in addition to those 14 which were raise 1 by these specific concerns. The 5 15 g applicant and the NRC staff are conducting a thorough

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investigation consisted of, we -- we looked at seven major I 22
areas of the coatings program. They were areas t. hat were 23 kind of logical divisions of the overall coatinga orogran 24 as well as areas that were concerned with various specific 25 issues of concern that had been raised. The areas that i

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coatings, not just written procedures but also the actual

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methods that were employed for doing coating related 8

activities on site. We looked at reports and records of 9

work and deficiencies basically involving a look at 10 inspection reports, noncon .ormance reports , and (lesigns 11' change authorizations. We evaluated the subject of the 12 l coating exempt log ,which I think you know what that is.

Uh-huh, sure.

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]f to know where our investigation has led in regards to that 23 specific issue.

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painted with those stains on it.

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4 10 MR. WELLS: The concern was that the stains were going 11 to be detrimental to the performance of the coating and that i 12 J the top coat would not properly adhere to the stains.

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actions required by the owners of Comanche Peak because of  :

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8 the evaluations that we made of the coatings program 9 It has not been determined precisely what those j overall.

10 actions are going to be, that is still under discussion. . ,

11 So we're not at liberty to discuss that with you exccpt 12 that there will be some actions taken as a result of our i

i 13 investigation and I guess basically that's it. We wanted 14 to confirm that we were, in fact, looking at the correct A

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19 intend by our schedule to publish the results of our 20 evaluation in the coatings area in a supplemental safety E

21 evaluation report that should be issued in January of '35.

! 2 2 This and the other concerns would be described in that 23 Where appropriate, when the decision's particular report.  ;

been made, we'll request that corrective action be taken 25 by the applicant, Texas Utilities Generating Company.

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several times before we were allowed to paint them by the 7

QC personnel and we ended up on that particular case with

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engineers to look at the liner plate there also before it was allowed for us to paint it. So at the time it was

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discussed this item with us freely and voluntarily?

You bet.

24 MR. IIAUTHNEY: Well, then, if that's the case that 25 concludes this meeting and I'm ready to go off the record 9.

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1 CERTIFICATE OF PROCEEDINGS .

  • 2 This is to certify that the attached proceedings 3

before the Nuclear Regulatory Commission 4 l In the matter of: COMANCHE PEAK TECHNICAL INTERVH.W l

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