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Response to Case 840601 Proposed Schedule & Procedures Re Intimidation Issue.Schedule Too Far Extended.Certificate of Svc Encl
ML20091P357
Person / Time
Site: Comanche Peak  Luminant icon.png
Issue date: 06/12/1984
From: Belter L, Reynolds N
BISHOP, COOK, PURCELL & REYNOLDS, TEXAS UTILITIES ELECTRIC CO. (TU ELECTRIC)
To:
Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel
References
OL, NUDOCS 8406130035
Download: ML20091P357 (10)


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NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION BEFORE THE ATOMIC SAFETY AND LICENSING BOARD In the Matter of )

TEXAS UTILITIES ELECTRIC ) Docket Nos. 50-445-2 and COMPANY, ET AL. ) 50-446-2

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(Comanche Peak Steam Electric ) (Application for Station, Units 1 and 2) ) Operating Licenses)

APPLICANTS' RESPONSE TO CASE'S PROPOSED SCHEDULE AND PROCEDURES REGARDING INTIMIDATION ISSUE I Texas Utilities Generating Company, et al. (Applicants) l hereby respond to the proposed schedule and procedures relating to the intimidation issue submitted by CASE on June 1, 1984. .

1 Applicants are unable to agree in major respects with CASE's l

proposal. In the spirit of attempting to reach an accomodation over procedural matters, however, we will describe our major problems with CASE's proposal and offer an alternative schedule l and procedures. We understand that a conference call regarding this matter is scheduled for June 14.

The problems inherent in CASE's proposal: There are three major problems with CASE's proposal. First, the schedule'itself is far too extended in'that it does not appear to lead to'the commencement of hearing until late August at the earliest.

Second, CASE's proposal that Applicants' witnesses must be deposed before CASE witnesses.can be deposed is' simply 8406130035 840612 PDR ADOCM 05000445

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,4 unrealistic. Applicant does not know who its witnesses will be until it knows, by deposition of CASE witnesses, the incidents, dates, times and people involved in CASE's allegations. CASE has the burden of going forward with respect to this issue.1/ Third, it is premature to establish a firm schedule for trial of this  ;

issue until all parties have a better idea of the scope of the issue itself. The Board's rulings on the question of the l standard to be used for the issue of intimidation and on the question of utilizing hearsay in the trial of this issue will have a major impact on the actual scope of the evidence to be )

l presented. l We turn now to a more detailed discussion of these problems and suggestions as to how they might be alleviated in ways that can accomodate CASE.

Use of depositions: The major element of CASE's proposal consists of the attempt to utilize the deposition process in substitution, in major part, for the hearing process. In essence this would lead to trial (by deposition) without the benefit of pre-trial' discovery. We must emphasize our belief that the use of depositions for the purpose of creating a record upon which decisions can1be based-is not appropriate. Much irrelevant and objectionable material will undoubtedly--be' contained'inithe depositions and would have to be the subject of numerous motions to strike if.the depositions were to be offeled as evidence.

1/ See Applicants' Proposed Standard,1. filed May 8,[1984.

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In the spirit of cooperation we are willing to reexamine the situation at the conclusion of the deposition process. All parties must remain free, however, to create whatever record at the hearing they deem appropriate. In this regard we wish to emphasize that Applicants do have some knowledge of the events about which several of CASE's potential witnesses will test-ify.2/ Applicants intend to directly challenge the credibility of each one of these witnesses and therefore expect that their testimony will have to be heard before the Board in any event.

Our major concern with CASE's proposal relates to the extended schedule involved. Despite'the submittal of a data request on April 9, 1984, which sought to obtain an indication of the witnesses, incidents and facts that CASE intended to prove, we were not provided with any responsive material undl June 1 (telephone) and June 4 (letter). The responsive material consists only of a list of potential witnesses, categories of potential witnesses and some documents. We now have.a very hazy and preliminary idea 1of the potential scope of this issue.

While we .now have 'a preliminary list of ~ potential witnesses, we still' do not know the ' specific ' incidents, dates 'and facts -that -

CASE alleges it will'prcve.1/ .Without'this information it:is S H 1/ Applicants know 'of -theilikely1 testimony-of Charles Atchison,

' William Dunham, Robert-Hamilton, Dobie Hatley, Susan TNeumaier, Land Henry-and Darlene'Stiner."

3/ CASE has.not yet' answered our request that they ".c...-

' provide'a summary,.of:testimonylthat' CASE intends.to ' elicit from the person, including a~ list of-facts that CASE intends to establish through'the; person's. testimony." . Applicants' Eighth Set of Interrogatories, p.J4.

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present or even to know who their potential witnesses with respect to these incidents might be.

l CASE's representatives indicated to us that the reason they seek to depose Applicants' witnesses first is their concern that Applicants' witnesses might " tailor" their testimony. This concern has equal validity on either side.d/ If CASE continues to insist that Applicants' case must be put on first, then Applicants would suggest that the record be closed as it now exists. If CASE does not wish to present any further evidence which Applicants may seek to rebut, so be it. Applicants are satisfied with the present state of the record.

Rulings which may. affect the scope of this issue: Clearly the Board's ruling on the standard to be utilized will affect the scope of this issue. Since CASE intends to respond to our proposed standard by June 12, we would request an opportunity to reply within three working days, (i.e. by June 15).

i/ We do not mean to suggest bad faith on either. side. Rather we suggest that neither side has any ground for undue suspicion. .We note the CASE desires to have ample time to

" prepare" their own witnesses before they are deposed.

We feel compelled to respond briefly here to footnote 6 of CASE's. pleading. As we have explained.to CASE, we specifically recited at our informal meeting on May 30 that an additional report was then being made available to Mrs.

Ellis. We accept their observation that-they made no note'of-this statement.- We have since discovered that the additional report wasinot made available until the-day'after our meeting. The. reason it was not provided .to .Mrs. Ellis on May 25 along withb other materials was because~an expurgated copy-'

.was not available that afternoon.

Second, the Board's response to our request that hearsay be rejected with respect to this issue (see Applicants' Proposed Standard, filed May 8, 1984, p. 15) will have a major impact on the scope of the evidence to be presented. Where allegations of incidents of intimidation are involved, the only probative evidence is the testimony of persons with direct knowledge of the incidents. For one person to testify that he " heard" of an act or " heard" that a member of management had used certain allegedly threatening words, adds nothing of probative value to the testimony of a person with direct knowledge of the incident.

This is to be distinguished, of course, from the testimony of a person who relates his own personal observations or his own personal attitude, based in part upon things which he or she has been told or has heard. Depending upon the nature of the testimony and whether or not a reasonable person standard is adopted, such testimony about an individual's personal attitude and direct observations may be relevant.

We note that CASE's description of potential witnesses includes newspaper reporters, members of Congress, investigators and others. Some of these persons may have direct, relevant and competent testimony but it appears-to us that most will not.

While the Board cannot now make rulings on specific ' testimony, it can offer general guidance. We ask therefore that.the Board issue a generic ruling 1) that persons who are not (and were never) employed at Comanche Peak and who have no direct-knowledge

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I l t the basis of what other persons employed at Comanche Peak may have told them, about conditions at Comanche Peak or about specific incidents occurring at Comanche Peak and 2) that only persons having direct knowledge about specific incidents of 4

alleged intimidation will be allowed to testify about such 1 incidents. Such rulings would, in all likelihood, significantly restrict the scope of potential evidence in this proceeding and properly so.

Second, we ask the Board to make clear that this is, as CASE has described it, a " people" issue and not a technical issue. To the extent that CASE witnesses may address technical concerns, i i.e. concerns that specific jobs were not done correctly (e.g.-

the Walsh-Doyle allegations), these concerns have been, or will v

be, covered elsewhere. The issue we are concerned with is i whether the QA/QC program meets the requirements of Appendix B in

.the face of allegations of a pattern of intimidation intended .tx) undermine that program.

The actual schedule: If the type of hearsay that we

. consider to be objectionable at the trial of this issue is excluded, Applicants believe that the' entire deposition process ,

can be accomplished in two to three weeks. We do not agree with-

-the extended post-deposition. procedures recommended by CASE.

-Since we believe that no party should be committed to the very abbreviated hearing contemplated'by CASE,.we think that.at this point:it would be most: appropriate for the parties to be able to review-the situation at the conclusion of depositions ~and that-J w-7.--

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the hearing be scheduled to commence approximately one week 4 j

thereafter. During this week (or earlier) motions with respect I

to the relevancy of certain witness' testimony in their entirety can be offered. The only other post-deposition filings authorized should be summary disposition motions. Filing of l proposed findings of fact should follow the hearing. Our suggestion would be that no formal procedural steps beyond the

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deposition process be established now, but that the Board and the 7 parties retain the week of July 30 for the commencement of the

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hearing on intimidation, and plan to litigate the issue through to conclusion in consecutive hearing sessions. This would allow for three weeks of depositions (assuming June 25 start) including the open week of the July 4 which CASE has requested, and would accomodate CASE's attorney's unavailability during the week of July 23.

CONCLUSION Wherefore, the Board should 1) rule that hearsay will not be' accepted to establish or support facts that'can be established 4

through . the testimony of witnesses with direct knowledger 2) require ~ that depositions commence the week of June 25; 3)'indi-

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b cate that depositions will proceed commencing with CASE witnesses and 4) schedule the hearing on the intimidation issue to commence July 30.

Respect u ya mitted, Nichof S. Reynolds Lt n!E Leonard W. Belter BISHOP, LIBERMAN, COOK, PURCELL & REYNOLDS 1200 Seventeenth Street, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20036 (202) 857-9800 Counsel for Applicants June 11, 1984 S

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(Comanche Peak Steam Electric ) (Application for Operating Station, Units 1 and 2) ) License)

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that copies of the foregoing Applicants' Response to CASE's Proposed Schedule and Procedures Regarding Intimidation Issue in the above-captioned matter were served upon the following persons by overnight delivery (*), or deposit in the United States mail, first class, postage prepaid, this lith day of June, 1984, or by hand delivery (**) on the 12th day of June, 1984.

    • Peter B. Bloch, Esq. Chairman, Atomic Safety and Chairman, Atomic Safety and Licensing Appeal Panel Licensing Board U.S. Nuclear Regulatory U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Commission Washington, D.C. 20555 Washington, D.C. 20555
  • Dr. Walter H. Jordan Mr. William L. Clements 881 West Outer-Drive Docketing & Service Branch Oak. Ridge, Tennessee 37830 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission
    • Herbert Grossman, Alternate Washington, D.C. 20555 Chairman Atomic Safety and Licensing **Stuart A. Treby, Esq.

Board Panel Office of the Executive U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Legal Director Commission U.S. Nuclear _ Regulatory

- Washington,.D.C. 20555 Commission Washington, D.C'20555 Mr. John Collins Regional Administrator, Chairman, Atomic Safety and Region IV. . -Licensing Board-Panel'

' U.S. Nuclear Regulatory- - U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Commission 1611 Ryan Plaza ~. Drive. .W ashington, ~ D.C.120555 Suite '1000 Arlington,1 Texas.760ll

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  • Dr. Kenneth A. McCollom ** Anthony Z. Roisman, Esq.

Dean, Division of Engineering Trial Lawyers for Public Architecture and Technology Justice Oklahoma State University 2000 P Street, N.W., Suite 611 Stillwater, Oklahoma 74074 Washington, D.C. 20036 Renea Hicks, Esq. Lanny A. Sinkin Assistant Attorney General 114 W. 7th Street Environmental Protection Suite 220 Division Austin, Texas 78701 P. O. Box 12548 Capitol Station ** Ellen Ginsberg, Esq.

Austin, Texas 78711 Atomic Safety & Licensing Board Panel U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Washington, D.C. 20555 a N f)

Leonard W. Belter -

- cc: Homer C. Schmidt Robert Wooldridge, Esq.

David R. Pigott, Esq.

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