ML20082D007

Testimony of J Zuckerman,Ja Stalzer,R Posnack,Gs Fisher, Br Kagan,Wf Bautz,L Capobianco,A Fiorelli,Pa Liano, M De Santis,L Kiehn & H Katzoff on Contention 25.D Re Role Conflict

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Site:	Shoreham File:Long Island Lighting Company icon.png
Issue date:	11/18/1983
From:	Bautz W, Capobianco L, De Santis M, Fiorelli A, Fisher G, Kagan B, Kanga B, Kangan B, Katzoff H, Kiehn L, Laino P, Posnack R, Stalzer J, Zuckerman J SUFFOLK COUNTY, NY
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION Before the Atomic Safety and Licensing Board

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(Shoreham Nuclear Power Station, ) (Emergency Planning)

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DIRECT TESTIMONY OF JUANITA ZUCKERMAN, JOSEPH A. STALZER, RONALD POSNACK, GEORGIANA S. FISHER, BRUCE R. KAGAN, WILLIAM F. BAUTZ, LYNN CAPOBIANCO, ANTHONY FIORELLI, PATRICIA ANN LIANO, MARGUERITE DE SANTIS, LESTER KIEHN, HOWARD KATZOFF ON 'EHALF OF SUFFOLK COUNTY REGARDING EMERGENCY PLANNING CONTENTION 25.D Q: Please state your names and positions.

A! I am Juanita Zuckerman, a Special Education teacher with BOCES I.

I am Joseph A. Stalzer, a Vocational Instructor with BOCES II.

I am Ronald Posnack, a teacher at the Coram Elementary School in the Middle Island Central School District.

I am Georgiana S. Fisher, a former teacher and President of the Parent Teacher Organization in the Miller Place Union Free School District.

I am Bruce R. Kagan, a teacher at the Sound Beach School in the Miller Place Union Free School District.

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I am William F. Bautz, a teacher in the Mount Sinai Union 4 Free School District.

I am Lynn Capobianco, a librarian in the Mount Sinal Union Free School District.

I am Anthony Fiorelli, a teacher at the Mount Sinal Junior i

High School in the Mount Sinai Union Free School District.

I am Patricia Ann Liano, a teacher in the Mount Sinai Union Free School District.

9 I am Marguerite De Santis, a teacher in the Port Jeiferson d

Union Free School District.

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I am Lester Kiehn, a teacher in the Rocky Point Union Free School District.

I am Howard Katzoff, a teacher in the Shoreham-Wading River Central School District.

1 Each of us is affiliated with a school district located in whole or in part within the Shoreham EPZ, and each of us is

testifying with respect to his or her own school district.

Q: What is the purpose of this testimony?.

A: This testimony addresses Emergency Planning Contention 25.D, and specifically whether either evacuation of the schools l in the Shoreham-Wading River Central School District or early dismissal of schools in the EPZ could be implemented adequately in the event of a radiological accident at the Shoreham power plant.

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Q: Under the LILCO Transition Plan, in the event of a radiological emergency the schools in the EPZ might be advised to implement their early dismissal plans. In the event of an immediate declaration of a General Emergency, the Shoreham-Wading River Central School District would be advised to evacuate its students to a designated relocation center.

(See Appendix A at IV-169 to IV-170.) Do you believe that ei-ther of these actions could be implemented in a safe and timely fashion in the event of an accident at the Shoreham plant?

A: No.

0: Why do you believe that early dismissals could not be im-plemented effectively?

A: In our opinion many, if not most, of the teachers would leave their schools in order to care for their own children.

Without the active participation of teachers, early dismissals could not be implemented adequately.

In order to understand our point, you must understand that even under normal conditions, an early dismissal cannot be im-plemented quickly. Many students are sent home by car or bus, and they must wait at the school for the arrival of those vehi-l cles. We are certain that it would take longer to implement a dismissal necessitated by an accident at Shoreham, because if an accident occurred at Shoreham,' many of the teachers would leave the schools in order to care for their own children.

Q: Why would the departure of teachers slow the dismissal 1 process?

A: In an early dismissal, although some students are in-structed to walk home, many students, especially younger ones, are sent home by bus and private cars. There is always a delay between the decision to dismiss classes and the arrival of the buses and cars. Normally, these students remain in their classrooms under the supervision of their teachers during this period. Order is maintained, the children do not become frightened, and parents and bus drivers can easily pick up their children. However, if many teachers left, the children would be left unsupervised, and chaotic conditions would occur.

Some children who were supposed to wait might leave for home on their own. Their parents could easily lose track of them, if the paren*.s were driving to the school. In addition, because many children would be unsupervised, confusion would ensue, and that confusion would make it impossible for buses and parents to pick up children in a timely manner.

In some districts an even more serious problem would arise because in addition to the general work that we just described, l teachers have specific cesponsibilities under early dismissal i

plans. For example, the Miller Place District relies on teach-l ers and other school personnel to use their own cars to carry l

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i children home. If many teachers were to leave in the event of an early dismissal, those students would be stranded at their schools. Many teachers in the Port Jefferson District are ex-a pected to man heavy traffic areas and intersections in order to protect children who are instructed to walk home. Obviously without teachers at these dangerous locations, students walking home would be exposed to unacceptable risk of injury.

4 Because of concerns of the sorts we have just described, we are convinced that if early dismissals were attempted in the event of an accident at the Shoreham plant, chaotic and I

confused conditions would result. Under those conditions, the 4

students would be exposed to unacceptable risks. Several of the concerns that we are expressing in our testimony are also stated in the resolution adopted by the Miller Place Union Free School District, which is Attachment I hereto.

Q: Do you have any other concerns about the LILCO plan to rely on early dismissals in the event of an accident at the

! Shoreham plant?

A: Yes. Handicapped students and very young children espe-cially need adult attention and supervision. For example, the Port Jefferson district has special programs for pre-l

kindergarten children. If large numbers of teachers left to i care for their own children, these children with special needs I

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4 would be in di.. traits. A situation in which pre-kindergarten or severely handicapped children were left without adult attention could not be called safe or satisfacto-ry. As an exa.pple of this concern, see the resolution recently passed by the board of the Sound Beach Pre-School. (Attachment 2, hereto.)

Q: Why do you believe that many teachers would leave to care for their children and families if an accident occurred at Shoreham?

l A: First, as other County witnesses will testify, it appears

that many school bus drivers would not report to work during an emergency at the Shoreham plant, but instead would care for their families. Teachers who are parents would have the same

! concerns, and teachers who are parents would probably leave school to care for their children. In addition, we know the

teachers with whom we work, and we know their attitudes. And i in our opinion, most of them intend to care for their children if an accident occurs at Shoreham. We base tnis in part on discussions we have had with our fellow teachers and statements

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1 questionnaire was distributed to the entire teaching staff, approximately 120 teachers. (A copy of the questionnaire is Attachment 3 to this testimony.' Sixty-three individuals re-turned their questionnaires. When asked the question: "In event of an accident at the Shoreham plant in which schools were asked to implement early dismissal plans, I would/would

not (please circle) be able to remain at school until all of my students had been taken home." Forty-one, or 65 percent, of

, the respondents indicated that they would not remain at the schools until all their students had left. Re.3pondents were

also asked the following question

"(Answer only if you would be able to remain at school.) I would remain at school with my students for the following period of time: 1 hour1.157407e-5 days <br />2.777778e-4 hours <br />1.653439e-6 weeks <br />3.805e-7 months <br /> or less 2 hours2.314815e-5 days <br />5.555556e-4 hours <br />3.306878e-6 weeks <br />7.61e-7 months <br /> 4 hours4.62963e-5 days <br />0.00111 hours <br />6.613757e-6 weeks <br />1.522e-6 months <br /> "

6 hours6.944444e-5 days <br />0.00167 hours <br />9.920635e-6 weeks <br />2.283e-6 months <br /> More than 6 hours6.944444e-5 days <br />0.00167 hours <br />9.920635e-6 weeks <br />2.283e-6 months <br /> .

Only 11 teachers, or 17 percent of the respondents, indicated that they would remain at the school for more than one hour.

This informal survey reinforces our opinion of the l intentions of teachers in our districts. The Shoreham plant is a topic many teachers have thought about a great deal, and many of them have formed firm opinions about both the plant and re-lated emergency planning. And in our opinion, most of them

! have decided that if an early dismissal were ordered because of an accident at Shoreham, they would leave. If they left, the early dismissal would not work, as we discussed above.

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River Central School District also could not be evacuated in a safe and timely manner?

I A: In our opinion, many of the teachers in that district would leave in the event of an evacuation. Without them, the evacuation could not be implemented.

Q: Why not?

A: The teachers would be needed to supervise the students, especially very young students and those with handicaps.

Teachers would have to supervise them on the buses and at the relocation centers.

Q: Why do you believe that many teachers would leave their schools?

A: For the same reasons we described earlier. Teachers are parents. Many of them live in the EPZ. In our opinion, many have already decided what they would do, and what they would do is leave to look after their own children. For example, in November, 1982, survey questionnaires were distributed to 260 teachers and teachers' aides in the Shoreham-Wading River Central School District. One hundred and eleven individuals i responded. Of the respondents, only 24, or 22 percent of the respondents, indicated that they would be willing to drive a bus during an evacuation. Only 41, or 37 percent, indicated I

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that they were willing to supervise students on buses. And only 39, or 35 percent, indicated that they were willing to su-pervise students at relocation centers.

These results support our opinion that many, if not most, teachers in our districts have already decided what they would do if an accident happened at Shoreham. The evacuation of children from the Shoreham-Wading River schools would require teachers. Without their supervision, the safety of children boarding and leaving buses, and staying at a relocation center without their parents, could not be assured. Children cannot

! be expected to look after themselves, especially in a fright-ening situation. Because many teachers would leave to care for their own children, there would not be enough teachers to provide the needed care. Children would probably be hurt, and the evacuation would not be safe. It would not work.

Q. Does that conclude your testimony?

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i. s MILLER PLACE UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT Miller Place, New York 11764 SCHOOL BOARD RESOLUTION WEERIAS, federal regulations for full power operation of the Shere-ha: Nuclear Plant require an emergency plan for commdnities a surrounding the plant which will assure those communities acequate protection in event of a nuclear emergency; and

! nn:REAS, the Long Island Lighting Company, in an effort to meet j federal regulations, has prepared an emergency plan which LILCO, lacking ccordination with local or state governments, i

1 will atte=pt to implement; and WEERIAS, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's Shoreham licensine board is now conducting hearings to review the adequacy of the LILCO emergency plan; and I

WEERIAS, the LILCO e=ergency plan includes protective actions to be taken by schools; and WEIREAS, this beard has identified the following weaknesses in the LILCO emergency plan:

1. Early Dismissal .

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1 schocis. This will prolong childrens' stay at schools in contaminated areas.

, 3. Needs of School Personnel We cannet guarantee tnat teaching and non-teaching

personnel will stay in schools to supervise early 1 dismissal. These teachers and staff may need to attend.

to the safety of their own families and, therefore, may not be available to perform emergency-related. tasks. '

4. Lack of Parental' Supervision

. Tne success of an early dismissal plan depends not only 1 on prompt dismissal from schools, but on prompt evacua-tion of children from their homes. In those cases in which parents will not be at home during the day, chil.dren will be sent to unsupervised homes from which they will -

not be able to evacuate promptly.

5. Parental Intercession We cannot be confident that parents will wait at home for'their children to arrive. Many parents may attempt

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! If a shcreha= emergency develops quickly and requires an evacuation of children from schools directly to relocation centers, this district does not have sufficient buses er

! drivers to transport all children to relocation centers in a timely, effective manner.

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school personnel will travel to and remain at' relocation centers to supervise school children until parents arrive i

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8. Sheltering The LILCC plan suggests that sheltering (remaining indoors) may be the preferred protective action in specific Shoreham emergencies. However, none of this district's schools have basements or other structures necessary to provide adequate protection.

1 9. Trust in Public Information

] In ene LILCO plan, tne only public information upon which to base. decisions for protective actions will come fro I the utility. LILCO, through its Public Schools Coordina-tor and WAIK-AM Radio, will both-describe the extent of the emergency and recc==end actions. Because LILCO would be bcth operator of the plant and initiator of emergency actions, potential for conflict of interest exists. School

ad-4 nistrators, receiving information only frc= LILCO and not frc= any governmental agency, will be forced to decide upon actions with potentially serious consequences without the benefit of a directive frc= a responsible governmental i source.

10. Indemnification

! LILCo coes not provide indemnification for school districts

! should damages, injuries, or deaths result from school administrators' decisiens during an emergency, decisions which can be made based only upon information and recom-l mendations ' offered by LILCo.

Now, be it therefore EESOLVED, that the Miller Place Union Fr2e School District finds that LILCO's emergency plans for schools do not offer children or school personnel of this district adequate protection in l event of an accident at the Shoreha Nuclear Plant; and, be-

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v4'm. eloce UFSD Board Resolution RESOIJGD, that this school board believes that licensing of the Shoreham Nuclear Plant should not be permitted unless or until cc=plete and reasonable resciution of these outstanding, critical energency planning problems can be achieved.

The above Resolution was passed by the Miller Place Union Free School District Board of Education at the Scard Meeting on September 1, 1983.

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! WHEREAS, federal regulations for full power operation of the 3

Shoreham Nuclear Plant require an emergency plan for communities surrounding the plant which will assure those communities adequate protection in event of a nuclear emergency; and WHEREAS, the Long Island Lighting Company, in an effort to meet 4

federal regulations, has prepared an emergency plan which LILCO, lacking coordination with local or state govern-ments, will attempt to implement; and WHEREAS, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's Shoreham licensing board is now conducting hearings to review the adequacy of the LILCO emergency plan; and

, WHEREAS, the LILCO emergency plan includes protective actions to j be taken by schools; and WHEREAS, this board has identified the following weaknesses in the LILCO emergency plan:

1. Early Dismissal J

Our emergency early dismissal procedure, which LILCO's

plan incorporates, wouldn't bring school children to

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2. Transportation j In an attempt to retrieve their children, parents will

be faced not only with added road congestion due to

ongoing evacuation procedures, but also with possible j conflict regarding older siblings being returned to

! empty homes while the parent is in transit to and from

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3. Needs of School Personnel i

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4. Notification The success of an early dismissal plan depends on prompt dismissal from schools. In those cases in which parents will not be home during the day,the school may not be able to contact them by phone. We must also take into consideration that congested telephone lines would hamper our attempt to notify parents immediately.

5. Relocation

If a Shoreham emergency develops quickly and re-quires an evacuation of children from schools directly to relocation centers, this school does not have vehicles or drivers to transport all children to relocation centers in a timely, effective manner.

6. Supervision at Relocation Centers We cannot guarantee that teaching and/or non-teaching school personnel could travel to and remain at reloca-tion centers to supervise school children until parents arrive to retrieve them.

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7. Sheltering The LILCO plan suggests that sheltering (remaining indoors) may be the preferred protective action in specific Shoreham emergencies. However, none of this district's schools nor our own school have basements or other structures necessary to provide adequate protection.

8. Trust in Public Information 1

In the LILCO plan, the only public information upon which to base decisions for protective actions will come from the utility. LILCO, through its Public Schools Coordinator and WALK-AM Radio, will both describe the extent of the emergency and recommend actions. Because LILCO would be both operator of the plant and initiator of emergency actions, potential for conflict of interest exists. School administrators, receiving information only from LILCO and not from 1 any governmental agency, will be forced to decide.

j' upon actions with potentially serious consequences without the benefit of a directive from a responsible governmental source.

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9. Indemnification LILCO does not provide indemnification for school districts should damages, injuries, or deaths result from school administrators' decisions during an emergency, decisions which can be made based only upon information and recommendations offered by LILCO.

Now, be it therefore RESOLVED, that the Sound Beach Pre-School finds that LILCO's emergency plans for schools do not offer children or school personnel of the Sound Beach Pre-School adequate protection in event of an accident at the Shoreham Nuclear Plant; and, be it further RESOLVED, that this school board believes that licensing of the Shoreham Nuclear Plant should not be permitted unless or until complete and reasonable resolution of these out-standing, critical emergency planning problems can be achieved.

Unanimously adopted by the board and members of the Sound Beach Pre-School at the general meeting on November 16, 1983.

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j 1. I am a teacher for grade level: (please check) 9th-12th 7th-8th 4th-6th K-3rd i 2. I live within 5 10 15 20 more than 20 miles (please circle) of the Shoreha5 Nuclear Plant.

l 3. I am a parent with children living at home.

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4. In event of an accident at the Shoreham plant in which schools were asked to implement early dismissal plans, I would / would not (please circle) be able to remain at school until all of my i students had been taken home.

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I could remain at school with my students for the following period of time:

1 hour1.157407e-5 days <br />2.777778e-4 hours <br />1.653439e-6 weeks <br />3.805e-7 months <br /> or less 2 hours2.314815e-5 days <br />5.555556e-4 hours <br />3.306878e-6 weeks <br />7.61e-7 months <br /> 4 hours 6 hours6.944444e-5 days <br />0.00167 hours <br />9.920635e-6 weeks <br />2.283e-6 months <br /> more than 6 hours6.944444e-5 days <br />0.00167 hours <br />9.920635e-6 weeks <br />2.283e-6 months <br /> i

, 6. In event of a quickly developing nuclear emergency, some-schools may be asked to take students directly to relocation centers if possible. I would / would not (please circle) be able to supervise children en route to relocation centers i

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I SUFFOLK COUNTY SURVEY Schoolbus Drivers ,

September, 1982 As you probably know, the Long Island Lighting Company has applied for a license that will enable it to operate its nuclear power plant at Shoreham. If this plant goes into operation it is essential to have an adequate emergency evacuation plan.in case there is a nuclear accident at the plant. Suffolk County is try-ing to develop such a plan and needs some information from you. ,

This questionnaire is completely annonymous and confidential.

Results of this survey will only be presented in statistical tables.

Please check the appropriate box.

1) For what school district do you drive?

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2) For how many years have you driven for Ehis district?

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3) What is the Zip Code of your home address?

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4) In general, how dangerous do you Ehink it would be to live near each of the following: .

( I Very Not too l Dangerous Dangerous Dangerous an airport l l l l l l a mental hospital l I l l I l a coal fired power plant i I I l l l a nuclear power plant 1 I I I I I

5) Would you describe yourself as: .

I l a supporter of nuclear power ple.nts as a means of providing electricity.

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6) Do you think that LILCO should complete and operate the Shoreham nuclear power plant?

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7) During normal operation, which type of electricity plant pollutes the air the least? ,

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9) During normal oeeration does a nuclear power plant give off a dangerous level of radiation? .

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i 9) Assuming thrit the Shoreham nuclear power plant is licensed and begins to operate, we are interested in knowing what you think you would do if there was an accident at the plant. Suppose that you had completed your morning run and there was an accident at Shoreham. Everyone living within ten miles of the plant was -

advised to evacuate. ochoolbus drivers were expected to help evacuate school children. What do you dhink you would do first?

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l l First, I would make sure that my family was safely out of the evacuation zone. '

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10) If there was a nuclear accident at Shoreham requiring the evacuation of people within a ten mile zone, how dangerous do you think it would be for you to spend several hours driving school children out of the evacuation zone?

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l l l t l I In the event of a nuclear emergency at Shoreham, a schoolbus driver must place duty to drive the school bus over duty to family.

12) Do you currently have any children who live at home with you?

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13) If you have children living at home with you, how old is the youngest?

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14) If you have children living at home with you, in what district do they attend school?

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15) What is your current marital status?

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17) What is the last grade of school that you completed?

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First, I would report to work so that I could pick up school children in the evacuation zone and drive them to a shelter. 24%

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Do you agree or disagree that in the event of a nuclear emergency at Shoreham it would be the obligation of everyone to first look after the health and safety of their family.

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Do you agree or disagree that in the event of a nuclear emergency at Shoreham, a school bus driver must place duty to drive the school bus over duty to family.

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( SUFFOLK COUNTY SURVEY Volunteer Firemen September, 1982 Hello, my name is and I am calling for Suffolk County. We are doing a survey of volunteer firemen to 1 obtain information that will be useful to the County in making plans to deal with a possible nuclear emergency at the Shoreham nuclear power plant. The fire depart- 2 ment is cooperating with this research. They have given us a -

list of members. Do you still work with the' fire department? 3

4. For how many years have you worked with this fire district?

0=less than one 4=six to ten l=one 5=more than ten 2=two to three 3=four to five DON'T READ [9= Refuse 4

5-9 What is the tip code of your home address?

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In general, how dangerous do you think it would be to live.

! near each of the following:

(Categories for Q. 10 to O. 13) l=very dangerous .

2= dangerous 3=not too dangerous DON ' T READ [4= Don't Know

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10. an airport 10

11. a mental hospital 11

12. a coal fired power plant 12

13. a nuclear power plant 13

14. Would you describe yourself as:

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\, 2=an opponent of nuclear power plants, or 3=you haven't made up your mind yet on this issue?

DON'T READ [9= Refuse 14

15. Do you think that LILCO should complete and operate the Shoreham nuclear power plant?

1=yes DON'T READ [3= Don't Know 2=no [9= Refuse 15

16. During normal operation, which type of electricity plant pollittes the air the least:

1=an oil-fired plant.

2=a coal-fired plant 3=a nuclear-fired plant 4=you're not sure DON'T READ [5=all about the same. *

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17. During normal coeration does a nuclear power plant give off a dangerous level of radiation? ,

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l=yes 2=no DON 'T READ [3= Don't Know [9= Refuse 17

18. Assuming that the Shoreham nuclear power plant is licensed and begins to operate, we are interested in knowing what you think you would do if there was an accident at the plant. Suppose that you were at work on a weekday morning and there was an accident at Shoreham. Everyone living within ten miles of the plant was advised to evacuate. Volunteer .

firemen were expected to help with the evacuation. What do you think you would do first?

l=first, you would report to the fire station so that you could help with fire fighting and evacuation in the evacuation zone, or [ SKIP to O. 233 2=first, you would make sure that your family was safely out of the evacuation zone, or [ASK Q. 19 to 223 3=first, you would leave the evacuation zone to make sure that you were in a safe place, or [3 KIP to O. 233

-(\ 4=first, you would do something else

, [ SKIP to O. 233 Specify DON'T READ [5= Don't Know [ SKIP to O. 23

[9= Refuse [ SKIP to O. 233 18

19. How would you make sure that your family was safely out of the evacuation zone?

l=go home and drive your family to a safe place out of the evacuation zone 2= call home and tell your family to leave without you 3=some other way (Specify)

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20. Where would you go?

I i l= someplace in Suffolk County 2= someplace in Nassau County 3= someplace In New York City 4=some other place '

(Specify) 5=you don't know [ SKIP to O. 22]

DON'T READ [9= Refuse [ SKIP to Q. 22]

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21. In terms of miles, about how far away is this place from your home?

1=10 miles or less 2=11 to 20 miles 3=21 to 30 miles 4=31 to 40 miles 5=41 to 50 miles 6=more than 50 miles DON'T READ [7= Don't Know

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22. After your family was in a safe place would you return ,

to the fire house to help with evacuation?

. l=yes 2=no DON'T [3=I would try

[4= Don't Know READ [9= Refuse 22

23. If there was a nuclear accident at Shoreham requiring the evacuation of people within a ten mile zone, how dangerous do you think it would be for you to spend a day working within the evacuation zone?

l=much more dangerous than normal fire fighting work 2=somewhat more dangerous than normal fire fighting work 3=about eqtally dangerous 4=less dangerous ,

5=not da~ngerous at all l DON'T READ [5= Don't Know [9= Refuse 23 l

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Do you agree or disagree with each of the following statements. ,

t i (Categories for Q. 24 to O. 27) l= agree 2= disagree DON 'T READ [3= Don't Know

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24. Helping with the evacuation of people from the emergency zone during a nuclear emergency should be the job of-specially trained personnel rather than the job of volunteer firemen.

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25. In 'the event of a nuclear emergency at Shorehan it would '

be the obligation of everyone to first Jook after the health and safety of their family.

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26. Only firemen who have specifically volunteered should be expected to help with of f site evacuation during a nuclear emergency.

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27. In the event of a nuclear emergency at Shoreham, a volunteer. fireman must place duty to the fire department over duty to family.

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l=yes 2=no [ SKIP to Q. 32]

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29. How old is the youngest child living at home with you?

1=under 5 2=5 to 12 3=13 to 18 4=over 18 DON'T READ [9= Refuse 29 30-31 In what district do your children attend school?

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32. What is your current marital status?

l= married

\. 2= single [ SKIP to O. 34]

3= widowed [ SKIP to Q. 34]

4= divorced or separated [ SKIP to O. 34]

DON'T READ [9= Refuse 32

33. Does your spouse currently work full time (30 hours3.472222e-4 days <br />0.00833 hours <br />4.960317e-5 weeks <br />1.1415e-5 months <br /> a week or more)?

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34. What is the last grade of school that you completed? -

l=some high school or less 2=high school graduate 3=some college 4= college graduate DON'T READ [9= Refuse 34

_'~ 35. What is your age category?

1=under 25 '

2=25-35 3=36-50 4=51-65 5=over 65 DON'T READ [9= Refuse 35

36. What is your sex?

l= male 2= female 36 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION l

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' TABLE 2 Responses Given by Volunteer Firemen to Role Conflict Questions i

Assuming that the Shoreham nuclear power plant is licensed and begins to operate, we are ,

interested in knowing what you think you would do if there was an accident at the plant.

Suppose that you were at work on a weekday 1 morning and there was an accident at Shoreham.

Everyone living within ten miles of the plant was advised to evacuate. Volunteer firemen were expected to help with the evacuation.

What do you think you would do first?

first, you would report to the fire station so that you could help with fire fighting and evacuation in the evacuation zone, or 21%

4 first, you would make sure that your family was safely out of the evacuation zone, or 68 first, you would leave the evacuation zone to make sure that you were in a safe place, or 1 first, ycu would do something else 7 ,

Don't know 4 Total 100%

(291) l How would you make sure that your family was safely out of the evacuation zone?

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{ go home and drive your family to a safe place out of the evacuation zone 32%

1 call home and tell your family to leave .

without you 51

. , some other way 12 Don't know 5 Total 100%

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Do you agree or disagree that in the event of a nuclear emergency at Shoreham it would be the obligation of everyone to first look after the health and safety of their family.

agree 92%

disagree 5 Don't know 3 .

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Do you agree or disa;ree that in the event of a nuclear emergency at Shoreham, a volunteer fireman must place duty to the fire department over duty to family.

agree 17%

disagree 77 Don't know 6 Total 100%

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