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FEB 2 51981 MEMORANDUM FOR: File A. Bert Davis, Deputy Director FROM:
TELECON WITH MR. TOM APPLEGATE, FEBRUARY 23, 1981
SUBJECT:
I attempted to call Mr. Applegate on Friday, February 20, and Saturday, to invite him to Region III for discussions concerning February 21, 1981, additional information that he claims to have related to our current On February 23, 1981, I was able to make contact investigation at Zimmer.
He agreed to come to the regional office to provide us any f urther information he may have concerning our investigation at Zir.ner.
with him.
He requested that his attorney be permitted to attend also.
I agreed to pay the expenses of both Mr. Applegate and his attorney for I told him he would be meeting with seven or the trip to Region III.
eight people including the Regional Director, the current investigator and his supervisor, a representative of the Office of Inspector and Auditor, a representative of IE Headquarters, and me during this meeting.
We discussed arrangements for the NRC's delivery of an airplane ticket He said he would have his attorney call me so and money for the travel.
individual.
similar arrangements could be made for that During the conversation Mr. Applegate stated that he would like to have I told him we a representative of the Department of Justice present,but we would have a I explained the function of the Office would not do that, Inspector and Auditor present.
of Inspector and Auditor as an interface between h1C organizational This seemed to satisfy him.
segments and the Department of Justice.
He also strongly stated that he would be skeptical of any information resulting from an investigation at Zimmer if we did not take action to remove Kaiser and CG&E people from the f acility during the investigation.
l As he had stated to me in our previous telephone conversation, he believes i ators that CG&E and Kaiser can hide information faster than our invest g can uncover it.
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- a FEB 2 51981 File He indicated that he had been on a radio talk show last evening and that many employees f rom Zimmer had called in confirming what Mr. Applegate
_had to say.
He said that he had He indicated that he was not out to ruin CG&E.
received training in investigation techniques and that he had applied these techniques objectively in developing his information concerning He indicated that neither the government nor CG&E problems at Zimmer.
had done anything to show that his findings were not correct.
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MAR 5 1981 MDiORANDUM FOR: File FROM:
A. Bert Davis, Deputy Director
SUBJECT:
TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH IRA ROSEN, 60 MINUTES On March 4,1981, Mr. Rosen called for Mr. Keppler and I took the call.
He said he was interested in talking about Zimmer. He had been contacted by Mr. Applegate and was aware of the Applegate allegations and concerns.
He asked me how serious the matter was.
I told him I was not in a position He to give an answer to that now since the investigation was proceeding.
asked how long it was going to take to do the investigation.
I indicated I could not give an answer to that and in spite of his trying to pin me down, no specific answer was provided.
I attempted to assure Mr. Rosen that we were performing a thorough investigation. We discussed the GAP involvement and the questions being asked as to the quality of our previous investigation of this matter.
Mr. Rosen indicated that he felt better that we were being watched He closely by CAP and assured me that he would watch us closely also.
implied that we would not do a good job unless we were watched closely.
l He brought up the Creswell/ Davis Besse problem as an indication that we are not thorough in our work. He closed the conversation by restating that he would watch us closely and would be in touch with us with respect to the Zimmer investigation.
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