ML20235J545
ML20235J545 | |
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Site: | Peach Bottom |
Issue date: | 02/06/1989 |
From: | NRC COMMISSION (OCM) |
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REF-10CFR9.7 NUDOCS 8902240316 | |
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A o, I ' O DISCLAIMER This is an unofficial transcript of a meeting of the . United , States Nuclear Regulatory Commission held on February 6, 1989 in the Commission?s office at One White Flint North, Rockville, Maryland. The meeting was open to public attendance and observation. This transcript has not been reviewed, corrected or edited, and it may ; contain inaccuracies. ;
~ . The transcript is intended solely for general informational purposes. As provided by 10 CFR 9.103, it is not part of the formal or informal record of decision of the matters discussed. Expressions of opinion in this i transcript do not necessarily reflect final determination or beliefs. No pleading or other paper may be filed with the Commission in any proceeding as the result of, or addressed to, any statement or argument contained herein, except as the Commission may authorize.
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4, 14' The Commission met in open~ session, pursuant-15 to notice, at 2:00 p.m., the Honorable LA!TDO U. :',EC H . 16 JR... Chairman of the Commission. presiding. 17 18 COMMISSIOffERS PRESEtiT: 19 LA!!DO U. ZECH. JR., Chairman of the Commission j 20 THOMAS M. ROBERTS. Member of the Commission 21 EElitiETH M. CARR. Member of the Commission ' 22 K E711TE T H C . ROGERS. Member of the Commission 23^ JAliES R. CURTISS. Menber of the Commission 24 . 25 NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. l (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. O.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600
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1 STAFF AlfD PRESEliTERS SEATED AT THE-COMMISSIOtt. TABLE: 2 SAMUEL J. CHILK, Secretary j 3 UILLIAM C, PARLER, General Counsel
'4 5 FOR PHILADELPHIA ELECTRIC COMPANY AllD PEACH BOTTOM APS 6 J.F. PAQUETTE, JR., Chairman & CEO, Phila~delphia 7 Electric Company 8 CORBIII Mc!TEILL, Executive Vice President, ITuclear 9 DICKINSOM SMITH. Vice President, Peach Bottom 10 JOH!i FRAliZ , Plant Manager. Peach Bottom 11
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3 CHAIRMA!T ZECH: Good af ternoon, ladies and 4 gentlemen. 5 The Peach Bottom, Power Station has teen shut-6 down by the Ifuelear Regulatory Commission order since 7 March of 1987. The order resulted from investigation. 8 and findings indicating pervasive inattentiveness of 9 licensed operators on watch in the control room, and the i 10 failure of Philadelphia Electric - Company management to ) 11 correct this inattentive behavior, f I 12 Since the shutdown, the Commission has met
;. 13 with Philadelphia Electric Company on several occ~asions, 14 and most recently on October the 5th, 1988. We were 15 ' informed of actions taken by Philadelphia Electric, 16 including sweepi:.g management changes, that extended 17 from the supervisors on watch in the Peach Bottom 18 control room, to the chief executive officer of the 19 conpany. 1 20 We were also told of significant actions to l i '21 support the cultural changes that were required to l 22 foster effective self-ass,essment, accountability by line 23 management, and a positive attitude towards safety 24 regulation -- indeed, to instill a safety culture in the 25 f a c i l i t y-. Other .. actions aimed at improv.ing the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RMODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W.
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L 4 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission staff has-l 5 conducted and concluded its enforcement action related V L 6- to the operator inattentiveness at Peach ' Bottom. A , 7 civil penalty in the amount of . $1,250,000 was paid by 8 Philadelphia Electric Company. And for the.first time 9 this agency assessed civil penalties to the individual 10 licensed operators at Peach Bottom. 11 The NRC staff in both Region I and here at the 12 headquarters, has been, closely monitoring . . that<
; 13 'a c ti vi t i e s. at Peach Bot. tom as Philadelphia Electric .
14 -Company carries out the actions identified 'in- its 15 restart plan. 16 I understand that a major inspection activity 17 -- the integrated assessment inspection team had an
- 18 entrance meeting last Friday, and actually began the 19 inspection today at the plant, as part of the NRC ; .i 20 staff's overall program to assess the effectiveness of 21 the corrective actions taken at the plant, and the 22 licensee's readiness to return to power operation.
4 23 Today the Philadelphia Electric Company will 24 update the Commission concerning the status of Peach 25 Bottom and its readiness for restart. j NEAL R. GROSS ) COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RNOOG 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 .______._u______________ _.__ __..___.__n_ _ _ . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . _ _ _ . . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - _ _ _ _ . _ _ _ . _ _________.___________________._________J
- 7, l . 5 1 Today's meeting. is . an . inf ormation meeting.
2 .There is no vote scheduled today. The Commission will 3 meet again at a later date in order to consider a-i l 4 restart-decision for Peach Bo.ttom. 5 Copies of the slides to be used during the 6 presentation should be available at the entrance of the 7 meeting room. 8 Do any of my fellow Commissienars have any 9 opening comments, before we begin? 10 (No response) 11 CHAIRMAN ZECH: If not, Mr. Paquette, welcome- . 12 You may proceed. , , 13 ,' MR. P'AQUETTE: '
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14 Commissioners. Good af tertioon. l 15 I am Joe Paquette, Chairman and CEO of 16 Philadelphia Electric. With me today, on my left, is 17 Corbin McHeill, Executive Vice President for liuclear 1 1 18 and, on my right, Dick Smith, who is the Peach Bottom l I 19 Vice President, and John Franz, who is the Peach Bottom i 20 Plant Manager. Additional members of our staff are l
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21 seated behind me and in the audience. 22 He are pleased today to have this opportunity 23 to brief you on the status of Peach Bottom. Since our l 24 last visit with you, in October, we have made 25 considerable progress in restoring Peach Bottom to NEAL R. GROSS } COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRl8ERS 1323 rho 0E ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433
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- 2. Operator skills have. been enhanced. Many 3 plant modifications'have been completed. ~Our corporate 1 ,
culture has continued to change in a positive direction. - 5 Our self-assessment capabilities have demonstrated their 6 : effectiveness. We.have completed our negotiations with . 7 the Commonwealth of Pen ' M vania,. and - expect to submit 3- our agreement to.the ITRC 'or approval shortly. 9 As you mentioned, !!r., Chairman, the ITRC staff 10 has begun its : ~integra ted assessment team inspectirn ef 11 Peach Bortom 2 and, as a matter of fact, they started 12 yesterday. 13 In late October , */e an'nounced a- three-mont? 14 delay in our estimate of Peach Bottom's expected date of
.15 restart readiness, from December of 1983 to the second 16 quarter of 1939 in order to provide us with time to 17 conduct additional operator training, to enhance 13 operations and management effectiveness, and to complete 19 physical w'ork. The delay has proven worthwhile, and.has - 20 increased our confidence in our operators and our 21 overall readiness. ,
22 I think that decision also presents solid
, 23 evidence that we will not rush restart or any of our 24 nuclear operations, at the expense of safety.
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'l Peach Bottom Units'I!o. 2 and tio. 3 in 1989, Philadelphia 2 Electric's nuclear - group is also f aced 'with the 3 challeng'e of successfully completing a 110-day, refueling 4 outage of Limerick Unit Mo. 1 which is now underway, and 5 of completing construction, surveillance testing, fuel '6 l'o a d i n g a n d initial start-up of Limerick Unit No. 2 ,
7 which is scheduled for the second half of the year. 8 Coordination of these four major projects has 9 .been carefully planned, and top management'is committed 10 to providing the resources necessary to complete them in 11 an orderly fashion. 12 Mr. Metieill will-discuss the specifics of our
. 13 ,pl.anned . management-of thess activities in.his remarks. j 14 In summary, ' he t last four months have 15 demonstrated tangible results which clearly indicate 16 that we are ' moving in a positive direction towards 17 achievement of our goals. I believe we are now 18 definitely in control of the plant readiness program 19 To support that claim, Dick Smith will first brief you 20 on the major accomplishments at the plant, and then 21 Corbin McNeill will discuss corporate accomplishments.
22 And I will turn the program over to Dick t1 , 23 Smith, unless somebody has any questions, before we do. 24 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. 25 MR. SMITH: Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, this NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433 .
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.. . 8 1 is the third ' time I have had the opportunity to: brief
- 4 2 you. since I . have been with Peach' Bottom, and it is a 3- -pleasure today to be able to discuss our continuing 4 improvements, as we proceed towards readiness.
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i 6 this slide. I ' l 7 (Slide) [ l 8 I would start first then with a brief I
.l 9 discussion of our organization. Prior to the shutdown l
10 at the Peach Bottom Station, we had a plant manager as 11 the leading person at t h e/ station, and several i 12 organizations which reported to him, and others which
-! 13 reported to' corporate headquarters at 23rd Street. :It 14 was a highly matrixed organization.
15 As part of the reorganization, in the Fall of 16 1987 we put all of the activities at the station under 17 one head, that being the vice president of.the station.
- 18. We also looked at ways to relieve the plant manager of 19 workloed, so that he could concentrate more heavily on 20 the operators and plant t,erations. We, therefore.
21 brought on-board a projact manager and a support 22 manager; the project manager worrying about those things [ 23 which were of a longer time frame than the plant manager I. . 24 needed to worry about -- such as. outage planning, 25 material modifications, et cetera -- and a support HEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
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9 1 manager n ', o worried about things such as security, 2 personnel,' medical, et cetera, and the other activities 3 that are necessary to run the station, but do not 4 support the day-to-day operation. 5 . We, looked for people to fill these positions 6 from around Philadelphia Electric Company and, when not . 7 available within Philadelphia Electric Company, from 8 other parts of the nuclear power industry. He believe .. we have assembled a good team. We have been working 10 together for about a year now. We feel there is good 11 communications among us, clear lines of communication 12 and clear accountabilities. 13 (Slide) 14 In the area of operator readiness -- I will 15 dwell a bit on this area because it is a significant 16 item. When we resisrt, we intend to be on six shifts. 17 On each of those shifts we wouid have three senior 18 reactor operators. Two are required by the technical j
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21 per shift. Two of these are. shift supervisors, and the - 22 third is the shift manager. This is the new position 23 we brought on after the shutdown -- a licensed, degreed 24 engineer, who had from -- at that time, from five to 13 25 years experience at Peach Bottom. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600
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[ 1 We' wil1~ additionally have :three reactor l'
, 2 . operators per shift, which is the number required by..the 3: technical' specifications . We are planning to build 1 towards the . future to a fourth reactor operator per
[- 5' shift in order to give us the flexibility at that level 6 also, but that will take sometime, and it will be well . 7 into 1990 before we are able to achieve that. 3 When we were together in October,. both 9 Philadelphia Electric Company, IITPO and the tiRC were in 10 the process of evaluating the crews performance in the 11 simulator, and all were coming to the decision that they 12 were not ready -- fully ready for restart. Ue continued 13- pur evaluations 'by Philadelphia Electric Company' 14 operations management and, when operatiens management 15 were satisfied, we set up an evaluation team consisting 16 of myself. Mr. Franz and a senior reactor operator, 17 licensed from the Limerick Generating Station.. 18 Ue performed an evaluation of. each of the 19 shift teams within each of the s i:c shifts, and 20 recommended then to the Institute that they should come 21 ir.,an evaluate them, which they did. They examined four 22 of the shift teams, and found them to be satisfactory. 23 The crews were subsequently evaluated by your 24 staff in an intensive evaluation, looking at all of the 25 shift teams. They found weakness in some areas, some NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-M33 . WASHtNGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600
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l l 4 We all now agree that they are fully ready for 5 ' restart from a technical standpoint. I I 6 bontinuing in the area of . licensed operat.r . _ _ . _ . . _ l 7- training -- I I 8 (Slide)
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, 12 by the way, all of the licensed operators have either- ' 13 ' been decertified -during the shutdo.wn period, and had ,
14 their license renewed, or have initially achieved their 15 . licenses -- but in addition to that training, we have-16 conducted extensive non-technical training, which was 17 concentrated on' inter-personal relationships, attitudes 18 and cultural changes. 19 I think we have achieved a safety culture at 20 Peach Bottom. 21 In the course of the shutdown, we have 22 qualified 11 new reactor operators. And these 23 gentlemen, of course, all have a rwstricted license, 24 restricted to cold operations only. We also have three l 25 new senior reactor operators, who were formerly reactor NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCR;BERS
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2 3 laid out an extensive training period where we will t i' 4 . conduct the training that is necessary to convert those ! 5 cold. licenses to fully unrestricted licenses, such that 6- -by-the end of the power ascension-'on Unit 2, all of our .
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12 We feel that this training program, which is 13 laid'out and which de have dis c us's ed with the regional 14 staff, will lead to well-qualified operators at the 15 beginning and through the power ascension program. 16 We will, of course, continue with licensed 17 operator training. We have in process now a senior 13 reactor operator course for staff members, staff 19 engineers. We will conduct a senior reactor operator 20 course for present reactor operators, as soon as we can 21 release them after additional operators have achieved 22 their hot status, and we will be conducting -- we are 23 conducting a reactor operator course, at the present 24 time. It will, however, be Fall of 1989 before we have 25 sufficient number of operators to give us full NEAL R. GROSS I COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE l$ LAND AVENUE. N.W. WA$N4NGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 23M33 1 I
13 ( l' flexibility. We'have the required. numbers and', in fact, 2 'as I mentioned, one additional senior' reactor operator-3 on each' shift., and we have some people we could use in 4 an emergency ; situation but, until we really achieve the 5 flexibility we are looking at, it will'be another_ year, 6 another year and a half. , 7 (Slide) 8 We have done extensive training in our plant-9: specific simulator and have found this to be an 10 extremely valuable tool for training, a magnificent
- 11 device. We have been using it for training,, up through 12 this week, and are now turning it off to put in '13 m' modifications to bring i t- fully up-to'-date a n.d , .
14 equivalent to the plant. 15 We are also correcting those things which the 16 operators have found over these last several months did 17 not truly replicate the plant -- this will be about a 18 two-month period of modifications -- then we will use it 19 again at the factory where it is presently located, for 20 some additional training late this spring and into the 21 summer, and then, finally, bring it up to Peach Bottom. 9 22 And we expect to have it installed, running, 'ully 2 "l usable for training in the fall of this year, at the 24 Peach Bottom Atomic Power Station, and that will 25 certainly be a major step forward in the training of the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RNODE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600
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.1- operators.. .- 2 One of the areas which has received a great 3 deal of scrutiny is our security program.
4 (Slide) 5 We have been rated a SALP 3 in this-area, in 6 the most recent -S ALP , and we have-had a' program which , 7 has met. minimum standards for a number of years, but we 8- have: not had a good security posture at Peach Bottom .-f j 9 Atomic' Power Station. 10 As reported to you in October, we brought on a 11 'new security contractor in August of this past year. We 12 increased our Philadelphia' Electric Company oversight. ( 13 We1 replaced th,e Philadelphia Electric Company managers 14 at the station, and moved the organization in so that it-15 reports at a higher level in the station, and reports to 16 me rather than reporting to corporate headquarters. 17 Uith the new contractor, we have done i
.18 additional training, both for our own people that are 19 involved with the oversight of security, plus the 20 contractor guard force. The new contractor has gained l
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[ 2 We have'been told by the !!RC that- they were 3 going .to come. in and give us another. inspection, 4 specifically in the security area, an'in-depth: thorough IJ 5 inspection, when we were ready and told them that our , 6 security program wa s . -- - me t our standards. We did 7 extensive self-assessment in September, October and 8 November and , finally, in December, I signed a letter 9 saying that we were indeed ready for that !!R C 10 inspection, and that took place in the.latter part of 11 last month. 12 CHAIRMAM ZECH: - Will you -elaborate, just J -
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14 MR. SMITH: Mr. Chairman, the previous 15 situation--- the guard' force worked'an' excessive amount 16 of overtime and they had unlimited and not -- they were 17 not accountable for call-offs, any guard could call-off 18 at any time, without any repercussion. And, therefore, 19 'you never knew when you came in, when you were*actually 20 going to be relieved and be able to go home. 21 The new contractor has scheduled time periods 22 with enough people on each of the shifts, such that they 23 are almost never havin.g to hold anyone over. 24 CHAIRMAIT ZECH: Put some discipline in the 25 system. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRtRERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE. H.W. (202) 234 4 33 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 t ._ - - _ . __ _ _ - - _ _ _ - - _ - _ _ _ _ _ - - _ - _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -
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i f . 16- -{ 1 MR. SMITH: The new' contractor does, in-fact,- 2 hold the people accountable for call'offsf. 3 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Right. And keep control over 4 it', rather than kind of leave control to the individual. 5 MR. SMITH: Yes, sir. 6 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Is that what you've done? 7; MR. SMITH: Yes, sir. Very much so. The-8 management is in charge of it now. 9 MR. McNEILL: There is one added factor, and 10 that has been that we had a large number of compensatory 11 postings, up'through about the end of October or early'
. 12 November because of security equipment that was.either . 13 inoperative'cr did not meet the design requirements, anc] ;
I 14 we have corrected all of those problems, so that the I 15 -number of compensatory posts that need to.be manned is ' 16 significantly fewer than there was previously. 17 MR. SMITH: And a number of factors have come 18 together, as I will menti,on later. We have about 1300 19 less people at the station, so that is that much less l 20 activity, so that much less demand on the guard force. 21 We have closed up the drywell, so we don't have posted , 1 22 positions there. All of these things have let us get - i 23 management control. j 5 24 CT4AIRMAU ".ECH: Thank you. Let's procebd. 25- .MR . SMITH: -Turning then to the physical NEAL R. GROSS couai aspoaTens AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVINUE, N.W. l WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 f (202) 234-4433
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2 corrective maintenance, surveillance; tests', and what.we 3~ 'are doing-in'the area of' radiation protection. 4 -(Slide)
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- 6. 2 and Common restart modifications which we have 7 committed to closing before we restart the plant. This 8 chart is a' little L conf using to understands /
The ' total-l 9 standpipe is the number of modifications which are not 10 physically totally completed. The black part of the
.11 ' standpipe is those numbers which still' require some 12 installat' ion. The remainder of the standpipe could be, 13 . . p e r h a p s ,- correcting a procedure, or' changin'g a 14 surveillance test, or some other' software activity that 15 needs to be done, to fully'close the modification.
16 At this time, there are about 20 modifications 17 that still require installation, and about an additional 18 20 that have some form of closure still remaining. By 19 the first of March, this total number should be down to 20 less than 20. 21 Now, most of these that are still on this list 22 are newly issued. He have a cumbersome system, such 23 that the many things which really would be in many 24 plants considered a repair activity or an alteration 25 equivalent to a repair, require a modification under our NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. . (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600
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7 Shown on the next chart -- 8 (Slide) 9 -- is the overdue -- and it is not Istated on 10 the chart, but I want to make that clear -~ this is 11 overdue preventive maintenance on Unit 2 and Common.
.. 12' When I was with,you.in October, I'. pointed out 13, .that we had brought the number.do'wn from'nearly 3,000 to
- 14 less than 300 overdue preventive maintenance items. And 15 our goals was to have it at zero by the time of restart.
2 16 As of last Wednesday, the 1st of February, there were 12 17 items, and as of yesterday, Mr. Chairman, there were no 18 items. l ll 19 We intend to be able to maintain zero items. 20 We know which items are coming due, and we are 21 scheduling them before they become overdue. 22 CHAIRMAIT ZECH: Fine. l-l 23 M R ., SMITH: We did achieve zero. as of l 24 yesterday. l' 25 CHAIRMAli ZECH: Good. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, O.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 [. . ...
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-- and.this . includes modifications, which are 4 labeled CN up there, construction modifications.. It 5' includes these corrective maintenance items .and 6 preventive maintenance items. .So, .this is all work' 7 -activity, this is a gross number,~but we have done over 8' 15,000-items'since we started the shutdown in Unit 2, in 9 March of '87. -When we were together we had a little 10 'over a thousand still outstanding that we intended to 11 finish before restart and, presently, we have evaluated 12 all outstanding work, and have determined that about 400 13- work orders are still necessary before, restart. ,
14 These have been evaluated by. our operations 15 management, as these itemc which need to be done before 16 restart. We will, of course, have all systems operable 17 in the tech-spec terminology, befcce restart. That will 18 definite.ly be done. 19 Perhaps another view to look at this is the 20 'next chart -- 21 (Slide) , 22 ,
-- which is the Unit 2 and Common non-outage 23 corrective maintenance work orders. There will always 24 be non-outage corr'ective mainterkance . We are running on 25 a 13-week rolling schedule, a quarterly schedule, such NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RNOOE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. ,
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y 20 L 1 that we take out a particular system in Week O n e ,- and-
'2 another' system in Week Two, and we work the outage work -3 --
the non-outage work that is there to be done during 4 those periods of time. So, there will constantly be 5 some number of these.-- 6 At the time of restart, we will be' able to
~7 justify why none:of these items are essential'to safety, 8 or impact reactor safety, and we will have operations ,
9 review of all of these items. This includes a number of 10 preventive maintenance items that are not overdue, 11 modifications at the present time, and corrective 12 maintenance.
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CHAIRMAN ZECH: Could you relate that, normal 14 backlog to me? 46Nweks, y 15' MR. SMITH: This is,our normal, 3 backlog. 16 CHAIRMAli ZECH: But could you. turn it into 17 weeks for tae? How many weeks does that mean? 18 MR. SMITH: If there were no new work coming 19 in, we cou.'.d work off 250 to 300 of these a week. The 20 problem is tnat there -- and this is only on Unit 2 and 21 Common, and there is also work coming in on Unit 3. 22 CHAIRMAli ZECH: So, in four weeks you would 23 work'off your normal work log if you didn't get anymore, 24 is that what you are saying? 25 MR. SMITH: Yes, if we didn't have parts NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234 4/m WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6
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'2 CHAIRMAN'ZECH: All right. Thank you.
3 COMMISSIONER CARR: The slope says you' could -
.4 .get it lower than that. ,
5 MR. SMITH: It would indicate that, Mr. 6 Commissioner. The problem . is there comes a. point at . . 7 which it is not reasonable or cost-ef f ective. to try ' to - 8 drive it down further. There are always new items coming-
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9 in. 10 CHAIRMAN ZECH: That's your estimate of the 11 new items -- in other words, when the slope levels off, 12 that's -- from ::ero to the line indicates the number of-
. e . 13 new' items you e5:pect td come in, in what'you are telling . j .14 me, I guess, is about a four-week period?
15 MR. SMITH: In about a four-we,ek period. 16- CHAIRMAN ZECH: And that's what you're going 17 to steady -- l
.18 MR. SMITH: And it also indicates that we are ) .19 going to shift some resources to Unit 3, to work the I
c 20 backlog on Unit 3. l l 21 CHAIRMAIT ZECH: To nake it a steady state. l 22 MR. SMITH: Sort of a steady state. 23, ti o w , the industry counts these things 24 differently from plant-to-plant, but this number is a l l; 25 good number. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRl8ERS 1323 RHoOE 15LAMO AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433 l
. 22 1 CHAIRMAN.ZECH: Okay, all'right. Thank'.you.
f, t 2 Let'.s proceed. - 3 MR. SMITH: In the. area of surveillance test 4 and routine tests -- 5 (Slide) , 6- -- shown on this chart are shose tests which . 7 are conducted a; a - f requency greater than quarterly. 8 'Those items which are . conducted. weekly, monthly, or 9 quarterly are on'this 13-week ' rolling schedule, and our 10 computerized system keeps track of these and . tells us 9
. 11 when they come due, and we are up-to-date on those, but 12 we are also looking at those which are of the. longer-13 term, s6 that when we do start up, we don't have to t' urn 1 14 around and shutdown in a couple of months to do 15 surveillance tests. This is strictly a matter of 16 scheduling, such that when we start up, we will be able 17 to stay up and run. This is not a problem.
18 We have continued to make progress in i 19 decontaminating the low-level surface contamination in J 20 Unit 2 and Common. 1 21 (Slide) 22 In October, we were right at 15 percent of 23 those areas we were trying to maintain as clean, were 24 clean. Our goal was 1. 0 percent. We are below 10 25 pe rc e n t- now. And as -I said before, it gets -more NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AtND TRANSCRIBERS
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2 have cleaned up the. plant from'somewhere around a third
-3 'of the areas being contaminated, to less than 10 percent a being contaminated. We ' continue to make progress on 5 Unit 3, and we will be.in a similar condition when we 6 are ready to restart 3. . '7 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Let me commend you on this 8 effort. This is certainly good management practice. It 9 contributes to your -- what you can anticipate would be 10 lower exposure record -- lower exposure'to your working 11 force, a lot less, more difficult -- a lot less 12 difficult working, a lot less difficult to maintain 6- . . . , . _
13 equipment, when you clean it up like.this. , 14 So, it would appear to me that you have done,
- 15. in this particular area anyway, a very good job. And I 16 am plea. sed to hear that.you intend to do the ~ same for 17 Unit 3.
18 MR. SMITH: We do. 19 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Good. 20 MR. SMITH: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 21 CHAIRMAU ZECH: Thank you. Let's proceed. 22 MR. SMITH: We feel we have made strides in to ' 23 radiation protection, in the health physics area. i . 24 (Slide) 25 And shown here are, in two areas, some NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 2ye WASHMGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6 _ ___--_-____--_~' -
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, 24 *1- ' measures of that, personnel exposure on the = lef t ' and l 2 ~radwaste production on the right. Shown in the dark bar p.
t. l '3 standpipe is the goal that we had set for ourselves for 4 1988, then the next standpipe is our actual achievement 5~ for 1988 and, finally, what our goal is for 1989;
'6 You will recall that in 1988, we did a major .
7 pipe replacement on Unit No. 3, and that 's. what drove 8 the goal and the actual high on Units 2 and 3 at the 9 station. We have set as a goal 1,000 for 1989. We 10 anticipate achieving it. January had us right on the 11 slope of the graph that would do that. I would say that 12' if we are less than 1,000, it will be only .the third [ 13 time in Peac,51 Botto'm's history that we have been ,a t- a 14 thousand or less, and the o th e'r two years were early in 15 'its history. 16 Our radwaste production - we had a good year 37 this year in radwaste production. Next year will not 18 show a significant decrease because we, hopefully, will 19 be operating here in '89, and will produce a lot of 20 resins, which will increase that. 21 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Let me comment on these two
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- y. i 2 would only encourage you to continue those efforts.
3 MR..McMEILL: I might point out, Mr. Chairman, 4 that at the Limerick Generating: Station, in 1988, we had l 5 53: man-rem for'the. year, which I think is a world record' 6 for_1988, .and is by far and away the best United States
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7 recor'd for a boiling water reactor. And we intend to-- 8 we may.not be able to achieve that level with a 14-year-
- 9. old plant, but'our emphasis is on significant reductions l
10 in exposure to our population. 11 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Well, that's -- again, that's 12 just good management practice. I commend you'for the 13, efforts on both personnel exp6sure and radwaste 14 reduction. . 1 15 MR. SMITH: I, finally, want to comment just s 16 briefly on what I would call transition to operations. l 17 (Slide) J I 18 I alluded to this a little bit before, but we l
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19 are regaining control at the station. We had two units i 20 in shutdown and, of course, still have two units shut 21 down, but we had major outages going on on both units, a 22 major p i p e., r e p l a c e m e n t outage. We had almost 2800 , l 23 contractors, plus our approximately a thousand 24 Philadelphia Electric employees at the station. It made l
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2 and to just keep track' day-to-day, of what was going on. 6 3 Th'e manning _ of the contractor force has j
-i 4 decreased by more than 50 percent. We are getting back-l 5 in control, and we are back in' control of the:workforce 6 at' the station. ,
7 Ue are also establishing a -- trying to 8 establish a culture and a mentality that . we have one 9~ plant in outage, Unit 3, and we.have one plant which,is 10 shut down and getting ready to restart, rather than two 11 plants in.long-term shutdown. 12 We are shifting control of Unit 2 back to the
. '13 o p e.r a.t o r s . a n d opera tions " s ec tion, rather. than 14 maintenance. So, it is'a plant that is near operations, 15 being controlled by operators, rather than a plant under 16 a heavy maintenance load.
17 We have gone to a daily plan of the day, 18 similar to that being used ut Limerick Generating 19 Station and which has received plaudits from IMPO at 20 Limerick Generating Station, which puts the operators 21 back in control. And as I mentioned, we have set up a 22 rolling maintenance schedule, so that we will do l 4 n ' I 23 maintenance and surveillance tests in a routine manner,' l. l 24 rather than a bulk or crisis basis. - 25 So, we are regaining control of operations. NEAL R. GROSS ! COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ ( 1323 RH00E ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) M .
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4 make. Subject to ' any questions, I 'would pass . to Mr. 5 McNeill. 6 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Just one question, regarding 7 the transition to operations, this last slide you have. 8 If permission is granted to Peach Bottom to restart, how 9 do you plan to approach the restart process? Are you 10 prepared to tell us yet about your restart program? 11 MR. SMITH: We have laid out a power ascension 12 program in which we,have describ'ed the management for
- 1,3 the power ascension, the ' training that wou.1d be part'of 14 it, the vario'us plateaus, the NRC involvement. We think 15 it is a very complete plan.
16 I officially signed that and submitted it last 17 Friday. We have worked with your staff, and we believe 18 it answers questions that they have raised, but the 19 official submission was last Friday. 20 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. 21 MR. SMITH: We think we have sufficient 22 management to continue the maintenance on Unit 3, and 23 operate Unit 2. , 24 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right, fine. 25 You signed it out last Friday, you say. So NEAL R. GROSS j COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS l 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W.
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f , a 28 1 the' staff has it now for review? 2- MR. SMITH: Yes. 3_ CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. Thank you very 4 much.
'5 Let's proceed then.
6 MR. McNEILL: I think we would be prepared to , 7 discuss that with you at our next briefing -- 8 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right.
'9 MR. McNEILL: -- for the plant.
10 ' CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right, fine. Thank you 11 very much. 12 Let's proceed. 13
- MR. Md:NEILL : Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, 14 good afternoon. And I thank you, also, f or - this .
M 15 . opportunity to update you on our progressg&.w r e s t ar t of 16 Peach Bottom. 17 On the slides we have made' a minor change, 18 pages 23 and 24 of my presentation are reversed, and 19' page 25A has been added, which will show on the screen 20 when it comes up. 21 I would like to review for you our restart ; i 22 criteria, and then briefly describe beyond the status l 23 that Dick Smith has given, where we stand in fulfilling
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-1 First,.that plant readiness is demonstrated--
2 and Mr. Smith,- I believe, has covered' this- criteria;
'3 secondly,. effective management and staff are in place--
4 Mr. Smith - has ' discussed the ' plant status, and I 'will 5 review the corporate management; third,: o u r- restart-
' fourth,. the self-assessment 6 programs are implemented; ,
7 capability, a major weakness identified in-the shutdown' S order,'has been established; and a recent addition, 9 which is resolution of-a number. of major technical-10 ' issues that still face us. 11 L'ast year, Philadelphia Electric formed the 12 dedicated nuclear organization shown on this slide.
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-15 functioning effectively. Our !!u c l e a r Engineering 16 Organization has, however, embarked on a major 17 additional reorganization, which will be effective about 18 mid-year this year. This reorganization is a natural l
19 one, which recognizes its changing role from one focused 20 on the construction of Limerick toward one focused on 21 configuration management. l 22 We have, in fact, compensated for that by , i
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2 The f functionality . of- this organization,. and-j l i 3 the fac't that each with the exception of quality j i 4 assurance is headed by'a vice president, is an important 5 element in our ability to take on the challenging. 6 schedule that faces us at Philadelphia Electric thi's ,
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' tiracking programs have been in place for nearly eight 14 months,'and were recently subject to line management and 15 quality assurance review.
16 Each of these programs has been found to be 17 effective, but can stand a great deal of change to make. 18 it more effective and more productive, and each of these l 19 programs is being revised to incorporate the lessons 20 learned from these reviews. 21 Our interim configuration management review is 22 complete, with the exception of one element, which we l 23 will close out later this month. We have a longer-term ; 24 configuration management program which will take a 25 number of years to complete, but will be very responsive NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS
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ie. . 31 1 to current industry and liRC initiatives. . 2' We have also recently promulgated extensive 3 guidelines for root cause analysis, which have greatly 4 strengthened our ability to resolve issues.rather than
.5 just their symptoms. Root cause analysis has 6 effectively been applied to problems associated with the .
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7 9 Our goals and objectives for 1989 are in the 10 final stages of review, and we will continue the 11 excellent ones which were highlighted by ItiPO as one of 12 our strengths in 1988. 13 In September of 1988, we began a hundred 14 percent drug testing of all individuals who had-15 unescorted access to our nuclear facilities, and all 16 individuals granted access thereafter. This year we 17 will have true rando'm drug testing for 110 percent of 18 the population. 19 On the next slide, I show you the figures 20 associated with the testing to-date. 21 (Slide) 22 These numbers indicate a positive test of PECO
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- weakness noted in the shutdown ' order of 8 March.31, 1987, was the company's inability to identify-9 its own weaknesses. Correction of this weakness through 10 development of our'self-assessment capability, h'as been 11 a major element of the restart program. We' have. 'used 12 self-assessment as an ongoing activity, which.has been !
, l3' supp1'ement'ed in this case for restart by a readipess . . \
14 review process, and by increased involvement of Il!PO. 15 Our self-assessment is a continuing four-level 16 process, which provides continuous feedback to the 17 organization. 18 (Slide) 19 At the first level, line management, we use 20 performance indicators, goals and objectives, management 21 by" walking around, and have very effectively used visits 22 to other plants, as another input to management on to I 23 what their standards ought to be. For instance, we have 24 had two teams of people visit Sweden, and we have had 25 people from Peach Bottom visit four other facilities in NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234 4433
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-1 the past year. '2 At the second level we utilize our- quality-3 con trol. organization, the plant operat'ing review ,
l 4 i committee, and our corporate nuclear support i 5 organizations, such as radiological protection ' and I t i 6 chemistry, to conduct. technical reviews and inspections,
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9 ensure that we keep pace with the industry. 10 At the third level, we use independent , i oversight l' 11 -- our independent oversight organizations of 12 quality assurance and the Nuclear Review Board. These . organizations conduct audits, surveillance, comp 1'iance 13 14 inspections, performance assessments, safety system 15 functional inspections and independent event , J 16 investigations. We are particularly pleased with our 17 performance assessment groups which look at functional 18 effectiveness and efficiency, rather than just 19 cocpliance. 20 This organization has a significant impact on 21 how functional managers view their organizations, and 22 their accountabilities. Frequently their 23 accountabilities were 'fs2r tn be complianc -r-lated. 24 They rtow look more at how -- what is the culture of 25 their organi.zation and its effectiveness. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ ! 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 ,(202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433 _ -_-_-_ ___ - _ - - _ - _-_-_-____ _ __-_- _- -__-__-__-_ __-__ _______ _ ___ _-- __ - ___- _--- __ _- - _ __-___- _ -.=_ _______- __ _ _ - _-
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4 and, most important, its strengths and weaknesses. At 5 this level we use special- reports f rom tha nuclear 9 6: quality _ assurance organization, , consultants and . ' f rom . 7 INPO, to ensure that ' our organizational -perf ormance 8: re'flects the high standards wh'ich we seek. 9 (Slide) 10 INPO has been considered a significant element-11 of this level of our -assessment process,. and in 12 , particular,. before we r,e s t a r t '
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- 14 fostering a higher. degree of performance than would be 15 'obtained. through the regular, normal and normal 16 . regulatory process, 17 INPO conducted plant and corporate evaluations 18 in September and October last year, and follow-up 19 eval'uations of operators, and operations and manage' ment 20 effectiveness in December and January, respectively.
21 Access to these reports has or will be made 22 available to the URC, and to representatives of Maryland 23 and Pennsylvania. -, l 24 On January 31 of this year, INFO removed our l 25 Category 5 rating, which had been assigned after the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHOOE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433
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't . 36 l'- .in our restart program. The first, which-is the. plant 2 readiness, which Mr. Smith has delineated, plus we had a 3 master open-items list. That master open-iters list 4 lists all of the modifications and administrative items 5 that are necessary for us to resolve before restart.
6 I would like now to discuss with you the non- . 7 technical issues that still face us, that are shown on 8 this slide.
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9 (Slide) 10 As a part of our ongoing self-assessment and , elsea r kno % e.k wa. 11 e a,r:2. 2 issues that arise / the plant, we have , '12 identified a ' number of technical issues that may need 13 additional work or, in fact, do need addi tional wo'rk. ' 14 '- The first is in our review of Appendix R, we have noted 15 the high impedance fault problem has not been adequately 16 addressed. We have previously submitted an exemption 17 request to the Commission staff on Appendix R and the 18 high impedance fault. 19 We recognize that that will not be approved, 20 and have taken a different approach, and are attempting 21 to resolve this on an interim issue basis with the 22 staff, and we will follow up with a longer term program 23 to bring in full compliance with the Appendix R. 24 We have also noted, and had under review over i l 25 the last eight months, the electrical design of Peach l NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. . (202) 234e WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6
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4 that. Dick . described in terms of modifications that have ! 5 to-be completed prior to restart. , , 4 6 During one of the reviews, or during one of - i! 7 the walk. downs that we had at the plant this past year, 8 one of the engineers noted that a number of the floor. 9 penetrations that generally provided flood protection, 10 were not sealed. That started us on an extensive review 11 of all of ~ the penetration seals in the plant. And we 12 have-corrected.all of the. flood ones, but we find that 13 some of the high energy line break seals 'a r e net 14 properly sealed. And we have some modifications that 15 will take until mid-March or so to correct in order to 16 resolve this particular issue. 17 Ue have completed, and are about to test the 18 alternate rod insertion modification, and are working 19 with the staff on resolvfng the technical 20 specifications. Our modification, or our design, was 21 completed somewhat in advance of the generic BUR design, 22 and we have got some minor changes, deviations from that 23 generic , design, so that we have to have some minor 24 changes to the tech-specs resolved. 25 Peach Bottom has an emergency cooling tower, NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRISER$ 132;! RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHONGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600
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7 -large number of years was conducted of that ~ cooling 8 tower. We persisted with 'that, conducted the . test. in 9 December, the test did not work, and'it now appears that. 10 there have been some longstanding technical deficiencies 11 with venting of the reservoirs, the large water 12 reservoirs for that. And we have some modifications to ,/ 13 complete, which should be done by the end of Februaiy, - 14 and we have to rerun that particular test. 15 'We have a small bore pipe stress issue where 16 we have found that a number of modifications have been 17 made to the small bore piping, and that, although we 18 exceed the code allowable stresses, we should not exceed 19 the rupture stresses on the pipe. This is not different 20 than many plants of this vintage have found in some of l 21 their small bore piping. And we are proposing to , 1: 1 22 undertake a several year review of this particular l i 23 program, and to bring it in full conformance with 24 today's standard. 25 . And, finally, there is a question of NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRIBERS 1323 RHODE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 2000$ (202) 232 6
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1! Surveillance ' test ' adequacy. We have.found a number of-f_~' 2 our surveillance tests - in the~ fire' protection system, 3 and in tnose other conditions which have a number ; of
'4 lists, such as the flood seals, where there are 5' inaccuracies in the compiled listing of things that have 6 to 'be ' demonstrated , and we are'-reviewing those, _ 'and , . - . I 7 bringing them up-to-date.
8' So, that lists the issues that we have to I 9 resolve. We believe that all of those will be completed 10 before the end of: tiarch, more, like the 27th of liarch, is 11' our last date on~those particular items. 12" I am very ' pleased to report to you that we - [ . 13 have progressed very well in our n'egot i a tioris with the 14 Pennsy"1vania, and that we, in fact, have a draft 15 agreement which has received initial IIRC comments. 16 (Slide) 17 Those comments have been further negotiated 18 with the Commonwealth. And we have a final document 19 which is expected to be submitted by about the 17th of 20 February. The final actions that need to be completed 21 are a review with the Governor, and then a final signing 22' agreement. At that time we will be signing to submit 23 the agreement f or IIRC review. l 24 After the TIRC has granted its approval of that 25 document, there will be a final signing. When that I NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1333 RHODE 85 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6
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i 40 1 finali agreement becomes binding, the Commonwealth will 2 remove itself from the Third Circuit Court of. Appeals, 3 in a filing that it has there, and. also will' remove 4 itself .from the Atomic Safety and Licensing Board i 5 hearing that is pending on issues. 6 1989 is going to be an extremely challenging .
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8 '(Slide) 9 As Mr. Paquette has ind'icated, in addition to 10 returning Units 2 and 3 from their long-term regulatory 11 shutdown, we will be returning Limerick Unit 1 from a 12 normal refueling' outage, but one that also includes the 13 tis-in 'of all o f. the Unit'2 Common systems, and there 14 are a number of those, such as the s t a nd-by. ' g a s 15 treatment system and the emergency service. water system. 16 So.we have an outage of greatsecomplexity than 17 normal. It is currently on schedule, and should finish 18 early in May. 19 We expect early in July, to begin the loading 20 of fuel on Limerick Unit 2, and to be at about 25 21 percent power by year's end. 22 We recognize that this is a challenging series 23 ,c f objectives for us. We intend, through management 24 involvement, attention and support tr "he various 25 activities involved here, to make sure that we handle NEAL R. GROSS i l COURT REPORTERS AND, TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433
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- 41' l'. these in'a very logical, safe and program manner.
2 ,Some of the items that we have'to look forward 4 3 to from management in doing this -- 4 (Slide) , . 5 -- is that we already- have a demonstrated-6 willingness to delay the schedule, and that'comes right. , 7 from.the top down. We also have'the availability of a 3 large mobile maintenance force in the company, of about 9 500 people. They are currently at Limerick. They will 10 come back to Peach Bottom, and they are a.very solid, 11 well trained maintenance organization, that we can use
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14 There are no competing fossil outages on our 15 fossil system to take away from that maintenance force, 1b and thereby allows us to focus. 17 I mentioned earlier when I described our 18 organization, the independence of Limerick and Peach 19 Bottom, and they are, in fact, well established with 20 vice presidents, with well functioning organizations 21 now. They have resource availability to'them. Although 22 we have reduced our budget this year at Peach Bottom, it 4 23 is still well above' normal, and the decline is 24 represented by the' decrease in contractors which, in the i
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[J ~ 42 - 1 the plant. - 2 As I mentioned the independence, on the next 3 slide -- 4 (Slide) 5 -- we do have a site vice president, who 6 attends the chairman of the board 's. weekly staff , 7 briefing, can raise. issues at that level, if, they are
'8 not' getting attention elsewhere in the organization.
9 They are fully staffed, and we have applied both 10 dedicated engineering support from our Nuclear 11 Engineering Department, but also have added some. extra 12 contract assistance to cover for, the fact that the 13 engineering department is undergoing reorganization. , 14 (Slide) 15 The problem at Limerick has eased somewhat 16 because of the Unit 1 and Unit 2 similarity. And to 17 give you some idea of that, 60 of the 60 operators who 18 took the differences examination to give them a license 19 '. n Unit 2, passed. We had a hundred percent pass rate 20 of the 60 operators that we sent up, and we sent 60 of 21 the 62 operators that were available. So, I think that 1 22 is a good indication that we have a quality process u
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.1 Ue are within two tests, I believe,-of: having submitted '2 all' of the startup tests .for the plant to the' NRC, for
- 3. their review. And we are maintaining close ties with 4 both General Electric and ' Bechtel, and will maintain la 5 -strong presence on-site of those people during the
'6 startup of Limerick. ,
7 I want to' assure you that we have a commitment 3- __ 9 (Slidel' 10- -- that schedule will not impact the quality 11 of either Peach Bottom or Limerick. We are dedicated to 12 doing the job right. We have developed, I think, or
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.4 that'you would like to see, that is represented in our 15 self-assessment process, and you have our commitment to 16 that.
17 Fi,nally, I would like to talk just a little 18 bit about the tentative schedule that we see ahead of 19 ourselves for Peach Bottom. 20 (Slide) 21 As Dick has indicated, on February 3rd, we did 22 submit the Power Ascension Program for review by , the 23 IIR C , to the Region I. Sometime between the 8th and 17th ., ; l- 24 of February, we expect to submit the agreement with the 1 l 25 Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, to the URC. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433
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3 And we-have basically kept them very pleased with our 4 ' progress, and the openness with'which'we are addressing
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6 As you mentioned, the . integrated assessment , 7 ' team . inspection began this week; it will last for two 8 weeks. We understand that the NRC staff is scheduling 9 public meetings in Maryland and Pennsylvania,.to discuss 10 the results of that inspection, the results of their systematic assessment of licensew=.J performance and the ca 11 12 SER that approved our restart plan 13' We have a tentative schedule for an ACRS 14 subcommittee meeting at the Peach Bottom f acility. on 15 March the 8th, and that will be followed up with full 16 ACRS meetings during -- early in March. 17 That concludes our presentation, and we will ; 18 take any questions you might have. i 19 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. I 20 Questions? Commissioner Roberts? 21 Commissioner ROBERTS: I don't have any k 22 questions f or , Philadelphia Electric, but I see our 23 regional administrators in the audience, and I wondered i 24 if Bill Russell -- do you have any comment? ! _ 25 _ Have.you heard.anything that is.a. surprise or
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4 MR. RUSSELL: No, sir -- 5 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Bill, will you -identify 6 yourself for the Reporter, please? _
. 7 MR, RUSSELL: Bill Russell, ' Regional 8 Administrator, Region I.
9 The-information that.has been presented today 10 is consistent with information that has been presented 11 to the staff in Region I and the assessment panel. We 12 have commenced our. inspection activities. There dre a
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- 1. much, gentlemen, for a very informative presentation. -I 2 'I commend you f o r. . the progress you are 3 .obviously making. We all want to see a .saf e and 4 reliable program at Peach Bottom. I think what we are 5 .looking for'is strong management to address the problems 6 that Peach Bottom has had. It.would. appear that we are 7 seeing that.
8' Constant attention and vigilance is what we 9 are all looking for. I would add, though, that it'would 10 appear to me that you do, indeed, have a significant 11 challenge to prepare for possible restart of Peach 12 Bottom Unit 2 with Peach Bottom Unit 3, as I understand-13 [it, not too farebehind it. At the same time , . you '. have .-
'14 the' Limerick Unit 2 f acility coming on-line, and you 15 have, as I understand it, a refueling this summer, for 16' Limerick Unit 1 that. are all coming together, and it 17 looks like, apparently, late spring, or early summer, la and into the fall. So, you do, indeed, have a 19 significant challenge. There is a number of remaining 20 things that need to be looked into by our staff.
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.. 1 presentation, the public meetings that will be held by 1 2 our people, our s ta f f., in the vicinity of the plant.
3 And, also, I think it is important to emphasize ; the 4 Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards will review'the 5-program that you have, and also make recommendations to 6 the Commission. . 7 So, we have all of those. things ongoing.right S now. I do think that we will lonk forward to, at the 9- preper time, hearing from'the staff. And I believe.it 10 will be important for Peach Bottom managenent to coma 11 back and present to. the Commission at that time, 12 especially your restart plans for Peach Bottom Unit- 2. 13 I-would, o ask that y,ou use that time
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2 schedule, which is blank during the summer. .i 1 3 (Laughter) 4 CHAIRMAN ZECH: I would' hope so. Maybe next 5 nummer you will get some vacation, but it doesn't look 6 like you will get any this-summer but,-in any-' case, it , 7 is a ~ real challenge. And I think you have apparently, 8 from what you told us today, and what I have been' led to 9 believe, too, are making'a serious effort to turn things 10 around. And' we are especially appreciative of your 11 reference to ~t'he c u l t u r e ', that is not easy to turn 12 around.. I think it has to be turned around. And I' 13 recog'nize that sometimes the technical' issues are easier. 1 *
;14 to. solve than that kind of an' attitude problem, that 15 apparently existed at Peach Bottom.
16 So, addressing those problems in a very _17 realistic way, I think, is extremely important. And I, 18 for one, and I think my colleagues would join me, in
-19 saying that we will be watching with great care your 20 continuing progress at Peach Bottom. We look forward to 21 your next meeting here.
22 Anything else from my fellow Commissioners? 23 (I!o response) 24 CHAIRMAi! ZECH: If not, thank you very much 25 for a very fine presentation. We appreciate it. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCR'?,2RS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 4 600 (202) 234.4433
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