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*Thispresentationsummarizescomments/questionsonAMPB2.1.37,"SelectiveLeachingofAluminumBronze."*Comments/questionsareorganizedinaccordancewiththeStandardReviewPlanforLicenseRenewal,AppendixA.1.2.3,"AgingManagementProgramElements." | *Thispresentationsummarizescomments/questionsonAMPB2.1.37,"SelectiveLeachingofAluminumBronze."*Comments/questionsareorganizedinaccordancewiththeStandardReviewPlanforLicenseRenewal,AppendixA.1.2.3,"AgingManagementProgramElements." | ||
18 ScopeofProgramProgramstatesthatextrudedteeswithweldrepairswillbereplacedifitisdeterminedthat"therepairsizeissuchthatfailureoftherepairwouldaffectstructuralintegrityofthecomponent."*Duringtheaudit,theapplicantstatedthatweldrepairsizewasnotknownforalloftheaffectedtees. | 18 ScopeofProgramProgramstatesthatextrudedteeswithweldrepairswillbereplacedifitisdeterminedthat"therepairsizeissuchthatfailureoftherepairwouldaffectstructuralintegrityofthecomponent."*Duringtheaudit,theapplicantstatedthatweldrepairsizewasnotknownforalloftheaffectedtees. | ||
*Staffneedstounderstandhowthestructuraldeterminationwillbemadeintheabsenceofthisdetail.18 PreventiveActions*Documentwhichportionsoftheburiedessentialcoolingwatersystemarecoated.*Citethecoatingasapreventiveaction-orcitesoilasanapplicableenvironment.*Thestatementsonaluminumbronzecastingsandextrudedpipingteesneednotberepeatedinthisprogramelement.18 ParametersMonitoredorInspected | *Staffneedstounderstandhowthestructuraldeterminationwillbemadeintheabsenceofthisdetail.18 PreventiveActions*Documentwhichportionsoftheburiedessentialcoolingwatersystemarecoated.*Citethecoatingasapreventiveaction-orcitesoilasanapplicableenvironment.*Thestatementsonaluminumbronzecastingsandextrudedpipingteesneednotberepeatedinthisprogramelement.18 ParametersMonitoredorInspected*TheAMPshouldconsistentlycitethefollowingparameters: | ||
*TheAMPshouldconsistentlycitethefollowingparameters: | |||
-Lossofmaterial(agingeffect)[sometimesreferredtoasselectiveleachinginAMP]-Cracking(agingeffect)-Phasedistribution(indirectmeasureofthepotentialforcontinuousdealloying) | -Lossofmaterial(agingeffect)[sometimesreferredtoasselectiveleachinginAMP]-Cracking(agingeffect)-Phasedistribution(indirectmeasureofthepotentialforcontinuousdealloying) | ||
* | *4 thparagraphstatesthatOEhasshownthatcertainweldsare"notsusceptibletocrackingcausedbyselectiveleaching." | ||
-OEonlydemonstratesthattherearenothroughwallindications 18 | -OEonlydemonstratesthattherearenothroughwallindications 18 DetectionofAgingEffects Buriedpipeinspectionswhenpipeisexposed:*Whatisthemethodofinspection? | ||
*Istheinspectionconductedoninternal,external,orbothsurfaces? | *Istheinspectionconductedoninternal,external,orbothsurfaces?18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.WeldwithNoBackingRings*Staffbelievesthatvolumetricinspectionsshoulddemonstratenocrackingaccompaniedbydealloying. | ||
18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.WeldwithNoBackingRings*Staffbelievesthatvolumetricinspectionsshoulddemonstratenocrackingaccompaniedbydealloying. | *Volumetricinspections,one timeinspectionof3%oftheweldswithamaximumof10welds.-AMPXI.M32,"One TimeInspection,"recommends20%withamaximumof25.PriortoPEO.-QuantityisinconsistentwithGALLReportrecommendations. | ||
*Volumetricinspections, | *Programstatesthat,"[i]frejectableweldflaws,"aredetected,inspectionswillbecomeperiodicinlieuofone time.-Howmanyweldflawswillittaketotransitiontoperiodicinlieuofone timeinspections? | ||
*Programstatesthat,"[i]frejectableweldflaws,"aredetected, | |||
18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.WeldwithBackingRings*Staffbelievesthatvolumetricinspectionsshoulddemonstratenocrackingaccompaniedbydealloying. | 18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.WeldwithBackingRings*Staffbelievesthatvolumetricinspectionsshoulddemonstratenocrackingaccompaniedbydealloying. | ||
*Periodicinspectionof20%oftheweldswithamaximumof25welds*Programstates,"ifnowelddefectsarefound"thenumberofinspectionswillbereducedto3%withamaximumof10welds.-Howmanyweldflawswillittaketonottransitiontothereducednumberofinspections? | *Periodicinspectionof20%oftheweldswithamaximumof25welds*Programstates,"ifnowelddefectsarefound"thenumberofinspectionswillbereducedto3%withamaximumof10welds.-Howmanyweldflawswillittaketonottransitiontothereducednumberofinspections? | ||
18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.DestructiveExaminations*Staffbelievesthatexaminationsaretodemonstrate: | 18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.DestructiveExaminations*Staffbelievesthatexaminationsaretodemonstrate: | ||
-forweldswithoutbackingrings,nolossofmaterialduetouniformorpluglikedealloying,aphasedistributionthatsupportsthebasisdocument,andnocrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying-forweldswithbackingrings,nolossofmaterialduetouniformorpluglikedealloying,aphasedistributionthatsupportsthebasisdocument,andthefrequencyofoccurrenceofcrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying | -forweldswithoutbackingrings,nolossofmaterialduetouniformorpluglikedealloying,aphasedistributionthatsupportsthebasisdocument,andnocrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying-forweldswithbackingrings,nolossofmaterialduetouniformorpluglikedealloying,aphasedistributionthatsupportsthebasisdocument,andthefrequencyofoccurrenceofcrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying | ||
*Theprogramstatesthattwoweldswithbackingringswillbedestructivelyexamined. | *Theprogramstatesthattwoweldswithbackingringswillbedestructivelyexamined.-AMPXI.M32recommends20%withamaximumof25.*Staffbelievesthatweldswithbackingringsandweldswithoutbackingringsaretwoseparatepopulations | ||
-AMPXI.M32recommends20%withamaximumof25.*Staffbelievesthatweldswithbackingringsandweldswithoutbackingringsaretwoseparatepopulations | -Backingrings-creviceforselectiveleaching-Withoutbackingrings-lessdilutionandlongercoolingperiodinrootweld 18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.InspectionLocationsProgramstatesthatinspectionlocationswillberandomlyselected.*Staffbelievesthatinspectionlocationscanberandom.*Locationsshouldberepresentativeofrangeandquantityofweldsizes.InspectionTimingProgramisnotclearonwhetherone timeinspectionsoccurpriortoPEO.*Periodicinspectionof20%oftheweldswithamaximumof25weldsif"rejectableweldflaws-."aredetected.-"Performedevery10yearsthereafter." | ||
-Backingrings-creviceforselectiveleaching-Withoutbackingrings- | |||
*Staffbelievesthatinspectionlocationscanberandom.*Locationsshouldberepresentativeofrangeandquantityofweldsizes. | |||
18 MonitoringandTrending*Thestaffrecognizesthatquantitativeresultswillnotbeobtainedbytheplannedvolumetricanddestructiveinspections/examinations. | 18 MonitoringandTrending*Thestaffrecognizesthatquantitativeresultswillnotbeobtainedbytheplannedvolumetricanddestructiveinspections/examinations. | ||
*Withouttrending,inspectionresultswouldbe"buried"inthecorrectiveactionprogram.*Thestaffneedstounderstandwhytheresultsofthevolumetricanddestructiveinspectionswillnotbecompiled(trended)andthecompiledresultsevaluated.*Thestaffneedstounderstandwhytheresultsofthewalkdownswillnotbetrended.18 | *Withouttrending,inspectionresultswouldbe"buried"inthecorrectiveactionprogram.*Thestaffneedstounderstandwhytheresultsofthevolumetricanddestructiveinspectionswillnotbecompiled(trended)andthecompiledresultsevaluated.*Thestaffneedstounderstandwhytheresultsofthewalkdownswillnotbetrended.18 AcceptanceCriteria TheAMPstatesthattheacceptancecriteriaforweldsisnodefects:*A/Cforvolumetricexaminationsis,nodefects.*Parametersmonitoredorinspectedprogramelementstates,"Ifrejectableweldflaws(welddefects)perASMESectionIX-."-Programisunclearinthatitaddressesflawsanddefects.-WhyisSectionIXcited?-CitingSectionIIIcouldleadtononconsequential(fordealloying)defects(e.g.,concavitywithweldsizeslightlyunderthickness(suckback),roundedindications>5/32",inadequatepenetration). | ||
-CitingSectionIIIcouldleadtoanalyticalresolutionthatadefectisclassifiedasaflaw.*Describethespecificcriteriafordeclaringthatanindicationinaweldisrejectable. | -CitingSectionIIIcouldleadtoanalyticalresolutionthatadefectisclassifiedasaflaw.*Describethespecificcriteriafordeclaringthatanindicationinaweldisrejectable. | ||
18 AcceptanceCriteriacont.*Thereisnoacceptancecriteriaforthedestructiveexaminations. | 18 AcceptanceCriteriacont.*Thereisnoacceptancecriteriaforthedestructiveexaminations. | ||
*Whyistherenoacceptancecriteriaforthedetectionofpluglikeoruniformdealloying? | *Whyistherenoacceptancecriteriaforthedetectionofpluglikeoruniformdealloying? | ||
*Whyistherenoacceptancecriteriaforburiedpipecoatings? | *Whyistherenoacceptancecriteriaforburiedpipecoatings?18 CorrectiveActions ExpansionofExaminations | ||
18 | *AMPstatesthateachweldfoundtohavedefectswillresultinfiveadditionalvolumetricexaminationsuntilnoadditionalwelddefectsaredetected.*Willexpansionofinspectionsbeconductedifabovegroundleaksaredetected?-Leaksshouldnotbedetectedoncecastingsarereplaced,regardlessoftheuseofbackingrings.-Whattypeofexpandedinspectionwillbeconductedifleaksaredetected(e.g.,volumetric,destructive). | ||
*AMPstatesthateachweldfoundtohavedefectswillresultinfiveadditionalvolumetricexaminationsuntilnoadditionalwelddefectsaredetected. | |||
*Willexpansionofinspectionsbeconductedifabovegroundleaksaredetected? | |||
-Leaksshouldnotbedetectedoncecastingsarereplaced,regardlessoftheuseofbackingrings.-Whattypeofexpandedinspectionwillbeconductedifleaksaredetected(e.g.,volumetric,destructive). | |||
*Whatcorrectiveactionswilloccurifdealloyingisdetectedinweldswithoutbackingrings?*Forweldswithbackingrings,whatcorrectiveactionswilloccurdependingonthefrequencyofoccurrenceofcrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying? | *Whatcorrectiveactionswilloccurifdealloyingisdetectedinweldswithoutbackingrings?*Forweldswithbackingrings,whatcorrectiveactionswilloccurdependingonthefrequencyofoccurrenceofcrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying? | ||
18 CorrectiveActionscont.ExpansionofExaminations | 18 CorrectiveActionscont.ExpansionofExaminations | ||
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-Willanexpansionofinspectionsbeconducted? | -Willanexpansionofinspectionsbeconducted? | ||
*Willexpansionofdestructiveexaminationsbeconductedifacceptancecriteriafordestructiveexaminationsisnotmet?*Correctiveactionsforthedetectionofpluglikeoruniformdealloying? | *Willexpansionofdestructiveexaminationsbeconductedifacceptancecriteriafordestructiveexaminationsisnotmet?*Correctiveactionsforthedetectionofpluglikeoruniformdealloying? | ||
*Correctiveactionsforburiedpipecoatingdefects?18 BasisDocument*Enclosure1,page54,Table12- | *Correctiveactionsforburiedpipecoatingdefects?18 BasisDocument*Enclosure1,page54,Table12-Whyisthe30 inch,dischargesidetee(withamarginof1.01ofallowablelengthtoleaklength)acceptableforserviceinthePEO?*Enclosure1,page53,Table11-Walkthroughhowthistablewasdeveloped. | ||
-Whywastheunintensifiedbendingstressused?*Enclosure1,Table1-ReviewinstancesofOEwhereindicationswere:*"nearandparalleltothebuttweld"page21*"alongalineontheflangenecknearthebuttweld"page22*"nearthebuttweld" | -Whywastheunintensifiedbendingstressused?*Enclosure1,Table1-ReviewinstancesofOEwhereindicationswere:*"nearandparalleltothebuttweld"page21*"alongalineontheflangenecknearthebuttweld"page22*"nearthebuttweld"page23 18 EditorialComments*Theperiodicwalkdownofabovegroundweldlocationsshouldbecitedinthe"parametersmonitoredorinspected"programelement.*Theperiodicwalkdownofyardareastodetectburiedpipeleaksshouldbecitedinthe"parametersmonitoredorinspected"programelement.*Programstatesthattheenvironmentisrawwater;however,soilshouldalsobecited,unlesscoatingscredited.*Firstenhancementstatesthataluminumbronzecastingswillbereplaced;however,itisdoesnotstatethatthereplacementmaterialwillnotbesusceptibletoselectiveleaching.*Correctiveactionsprogramstates,"leakfromaburiedpipeweld."Itshouldbemadeclearthattheweldcouldbe:(a)tononsusceptiblepipe,(b)tosusceptiblecastcomponents,or(c)therepairweldinanextrudedtee.ThisshouldbemadeclearthroughouttheAMP.18 Summary/Wrap up 18}} | ||
*Firstenhancementstatesthataluminumbronzecastingswillbereplaced;however,itisdoesnotstatethatthereplacementmaterialwillnotbesusceptibletoselectiveleaching. | |||
*Correctiveactionsprogramstates,"leakfromaburiedpipeweld."Itshouldbemadeclearthattheweldcouldbe:(a)tononsusceptiblepipe,(b)tosusceptiblecastcomponents,or(c)therepairweldinanextrudedtee.ThisshouldbemadeclearthroughouttheAMP.18 Summary/ |
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STPAluminumBronzePublicMeetingStaffQuestionsonAMP June21,2016 18 Introduction
- Thispresentationsummarizescomments/questionsonAMPB2.1.37,"SelectiveLeachingofAluminumBronze."*Comments/questionsareorganizedinaccordancewiththeStandardReviewPlanforLicenseRenewal,AppendixA.1.2.3,"AgingManagementProgramElements."
18 ScopeofProgramProgramstatesthatextrudedteeswithweldrepairswillbereplacedifitisdeterminedthat"therepairsizeissuchthatfailureoftherepairwouldaffectstructuralintegrityofthecomponent."*Duringtheaudit,theapplicantstatedthatweldrepairsizewasnotknownforalloftheaffectedtees.
- Staffneedstounderstandhowthestructuraldeterminationwillbemadeintheabsenceofthisdetail.18 PreventiveActions*Documentwhichportionsoftheburiedessentialcoolingwatersystemarecoated.*Citethecoatingasapreventiveaction-orcitesoilasanapplicableenvironment.*Thestatementsonaluminumbronzecastingsandextrudedpipingteesneednotberepeatedinthisprogramelement.18 ParametersMonitoredorInspected*TheAMPshouldconsistentlycitethefollowingparameters:
-Lossofmaterial(agingeffect)[sometimesreferredtoasselectiveleachinginAMP]-Cracking(agingeffect)-Phasedistribution(indirectmeasureofthepotentialforcontinuousdealloying)
- 4 thparagraphstatesthatOEhasshownthatcertainweldsare"notsusceptibletocrackingcausedbyselectiveleaching."
-OEonlydemonstratesthattherearenothroughwallindications 18 DetectionofAgingEffects Buriedpipeinspectionswhenpipeisexposed:*Whatisthemethodofinspection?
- Istheinspectionconductedoninternal,external,orbothsurfaces?18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.WeldwithNoBackingRings*Staffbelievesthatvolumetricinspectionsshoulddemonstratenocrackingaccompaniedbydealloying.
- Volumetricinspections,one timeinspectionof3%oftheweldswithamaximumof10welds.-AMPXI.M32,"One TimeInspection,"recommends20%withamaximumof25.PriortoPEO.-QuantityisinconsistentwithGALLReportrecommendations.
- Programstatesthat,"[i]frejectableweldflaws,"aredetected,inspectionswillbecomeperiodicinlieuofone time.-Howmanyweldflawswillittaketotransitiontoperiodicinlieuofone timeinspections?
18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.WeldwithBackingRings*Staffbelievesthatvolumetricinspectionsshoulddemonstratenocrackingaccompaniedbydealloying.
- Periodicinspectionof20%oftheweldswithamaximumof25welds*Programstates,"ifnowelddefectsarefound"thenumberofinspectionswillbereducedto3%withamaximumof10welds.-Howmanyweldflawswillittaketonottransitiontothereducednumberofinspections?
18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.DestructiveExaminations*Staffbelievesthatexaminationsaretodemonstrate:
-forweldswithoutbackingrings,nolossofmaterialduetouniformorpluglikedealloying,aphasedistributionthatsupportsthebasisdocument,andnocrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying-forweldswithbackingrings,nolossofmaterialduetouniformorpluglikedealloying,aphasedistributionthatsupportsthebasisdocument,andthefrequencyofoccurrenceofcrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying
- Theprogramstatesthattwoweldswithbackingringswillbedestructivelyexamined.-AMPXI.M32recommends20%withamaximumof25.*Staffbelievesthatweldswithbackingringsandweldswithoutbackingringsaretwoseparatepopulations
-Backingrings-creviceforselectiveleaching-Withoutbackingrings-lessdilutionandlongercoolingperiodinrootweld 18 DetectionofAgingEffectscont.InspectionLocationsProgramstatesthatinspectionlocationswillberandomlyselected.*Staffbelievesthatinspectionlocationscanberandom.*Locationsshouldberepresentativeofrangeandquantityofweldsizes.InspectionTimingProgramisnotclearonwhetherone timeinspectionsoccurpriortoPEO.*Periodicinspectionof20%oftheweldswithamaximumof25weldsif"rejectableweldflaws-."aredetected.-"Performedevery10yearsthereafter."
18 MonitoringandTrending*Thestaffrecognizesthatquantitativeresultswillnotbeobtainedbytheplannedvolumetricanddestructiveinspections/examinations.
- Withouttrending,inspectionresultswouldbe"buried"inthecorrectiveactionprogram.*Thestaffneedstounderstandwhytheresultsofthevolumetricanddestructiveinspectionswillnotbecompiled(trended)andthecompiledresultsevaluated.*Thestaffneedstounderstandwhytheresultsofthewalkdownswillnotbetrended.18 AcceptanceCriteria TheAMPstatesthattheacceptancecriteriaforweldsisnodefects:*A/Cforvolumetricexaminationsis,nodefects.*Parametersmonitoredorinspectedprogramelementstates,"Ifrejectableweldflaws(welddefects)perASMESectionIX-."-Programisunclearinthatitaddressesflawsanddefects.-WhyisSectionIXcited?-CitingSectionIIIcouldleadtononconsequential(fordealloying)defects(e.g.,concavitywithweldsizeslightlyunderthickness(suckback),roundedindications>5/32",inadequatepenetration).
-CitingSectionIIIcouldleadtoanalyticalresolutionthatadefectisclassifiedasaflaw.*Describethespecificcriteriafordeclaringthatanindicationinaweldisrejectable.
18 AcceptanceCriteriacont.*Thereisnoacceptancecriteriaforthedestructiveexaminations.
- Whyistherenoacceptancecriteriaforthedetectionofpluglikeoruniformdealloying?
- Whyistherenoacceptancecriteriaforburiedpipecoatings?18 CorrectiveActions ExpansionofExaminations
- AMPstatesthateachweldfoundtohavedefectswillresultinfiveadditionalvolumetricexaminationsuntilnoadditionalwelddefectsaredetected.*Willexpansionofinspectionsbeconductedifabovegroundleaksaredetected?-Leaksshouldnotbedetectedoncecastingsarereplaced,regardlessoftheuseofbackingrings.-Whattypeofexpandedinspectionwillbeconductedifleaksaredetected(e.g.,volumetric,destructive).
- Whatcorrectiveactionswilloccurifdealloyingisdetectedinweldswithoutbackingrings?*Forweldswithbackingrings,whatcorrectiveactionswilloccurdependingonthefrequencyofoccurrenceofcrackingaccompaniedwithdealloying?
18 CorrectiveActionscont.ExpansionofExaminations
- AMPstatesthatifburiedpipeleakisdetected,"asectionofeachleakingpipeweldwillberemovedfordestructiveexamination."
-Willanexpansionofinspectionsbeconducted?
- Willexpansionofdestructiveexaminationsbeconductedifacceptancecriteriafordestructiveexaminationsisnotmet?*Correctiveactionsforthedetectionofpluglikeoruniformdealloying?
- Correctiveactionsforburiedpipecoatingdefects?18 BasisDocument*Enclosure1,page54,Table12-Whyisthe30 inch,dischargesidetee(withamarginof1.01ofallowablelengthtoleaklength)acceptableforserviceinthePEO?*Enclosure1,page53,Table11-Walkthroughhowthistablewasdeveloped.
-Whywastheunintensifiedbendingstressused?*Enclosure1,Table1-ReviewinstancesofOEwhereindicationswere:*"nearandparalleltothebuttweld"page21*"alongalineontheflangenecknearthebuttweld"page22*"nearthebuttweld"page23 18 EditorialComments*Theperiodicwalkdownofabovegroundweldlocationsshouldbecitedinthe"parametersmonitoredorinspected"programelement.*Theperiodicwalkdownofyardareastodetectburiedpipeleaksshouldbecitedinthe"parametersmonitoredorinspected"programelement.*Programstatesthattheenvironmentisrawwater;however,soilshouldalsobecited,unlesscoatingscredited.*Firstenhancementstatesthataluminumbronzecastingswillbereplaced;however,itisdoesnotstatethatthereplacementmaterialwillnotbesusceptibletoselectiveleaching.*Correctiveactionsprogramstates,"leakfromaburiedpipeweld."Itshouldbemadeclearthattheweldcouldbe:(a)tononsusceptiblepipe,(b)tosusceptiblecastcomponents,or(c)therepairweldinanextrudedtee.ThisshouldbemadeclearthroughouttheAMP.18 Summary/Wrap up 18