ML20235C039
| ML20235C039 | |
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| Site: | Seabrook  |
| Issue date: | 09/16/1987 |
| From: | NRC |
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'l UNITED STATES NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 2 'DFFICE OF NUCLEAR REACTOR REGULATION' 3
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5 -MEETING: .NRC AND THE PUBLIC )
-SERVICE OF.NEW HAMPSHIRE TO ) Docket No. 50-433 6 DISCUSS THE UTILITIES EMERGENCY >
PLAN FOR MASSACHUSETTS ) 7 ) I' 8 9 l 10 Room-118 11 .7920 Norfolk l Bethesda,' Maryland 1 12 13 Wednesday, September-16, 1987 14
$ The above-entitled matter came on for 15 hearing, pursuant to notice, at 10:00 a.m.
16 PARTICIPANTS: 17 i Vic Nerses l 18 M. Faitille l T. C. Feigenbaum l 19 G. S. Thomas W. B. Derrickson 20- John Eichorn E. A. Brown 21 R. E. Sweeney B. A. Boger 22- A. J. Mendiola l W. J. Daley l
- 23. George-R. Gram Vincent Everett 24 Anthony Callendrello Allan Fierce 25 i Heritage Reporting -Corporation (202) 628-4888 8709240329 870917 DR ADOCK05000g3 l
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2 1 PARTICIPANTS . (cont ' d) i 2 T. G. Dignan Tom Murley 3 Ed Reis Jim Sniezek 4 R.. Starostecki Frank J.'Miraglia 5 Frank.J. Congel Sherwin Turk 6 David B. Matthews: Steve Long 7 Marc Sperber Eugene Pickett 8 ~Sunil Weerakkody W. J. Lazarus 9 R. J. Bores D. J. Perrotti 10 Dick'Hampe Gil Brown 11 Scott Newberry Ali Tabatabai
'12 G. Edwards-E. H. Trottier 13 Janis Kerrigan-Roberts Jennifer Goren
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1 PROCEEDINGS l i 2 10:00 a.m. 3 MR. NERSES: Good morning. My name is Vic Nerses, 4 and I am the acting Director of pDI-3. This'is a meeting 1 5 between the NRC and the licensee, in particular, a meeting to 6 have an opportunity to listen to an update on the utilities 7 emergency plan covering portions of Massachusetts DPZ. I 8 As I recall, last time that we met, we had a number ! 9 of opportunities to hear the emergency plan for Massachusetts j i 10 the utility was going to provide, and we understand that some 11 time this month that plan will be submitted. j 12 At that point in time, when we had this meeting on 13 July 30, it was indicated that a number of revisions were still 3 1 14 ongoing in that plan, and it would.probably be a good idea to ( i 15 get together again to have a chance to listen to an update, and 16 get some update on the information that you had. 17 In particular, as I recall, there were a number of ) 1 18 things yet to be done in terms of procedures, leases, i 19 agreements, and various and other sundry things, so that ! i 20 hopefully, that kind of information will also be made j i 21 available. f 22 Bill, why don' t I turn this over to you and get the i 23 meeting started? i 24 MR. DERRICKSON: Thank you, Vic. l l 25 MR. NERSES: We are transcribing this meeting, and ] l i i- Heritage Reporting Corporation ! (202) 628-4888 . I i i \ I l
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1 l, 4 l 1 therefore it is important for us to identify'ourselves as we [ 2 _ speak so that the reporter can take that information down. 3 I also have an attendance list that is being routed. - l 4 I would appreciate it if you folks would sign it so that.we can l
. l 5 also provide it to her. Is there any other information that 6 you need that would be helpful.to you?
7 THE REPORTER: If you could please speak one at a 8' time. ' l I 9 MR. NERSES: One at a time. We' ll try to do that'. 10 Furthermore, I just want to also add that we have a rostrum 11 there with a microphone all set up, so if anyone wante to get .I l 12 up on the presentation, George, you can certainly use that and j 13 use the microphone along with that. I 14 Okay, Bill, why don' t we turn it over to you. j 15 MR. DERRICKSON: Thank you, Vic. As customary, I 16 would ask Dr. Murley, would you like everybody to introduce 17 themselves before we get started? 18 MR. MURLEY: That probably would be a good idea. 19 MR. BROWN: Edward Brown, president of New Hampshire 20 Yankee. 21 MR. DERRICKSON: Bill Derrickson, Senior Vice-22 President, New Hampshire Yankee. 23 MR. EICHORN: John Eichorn, Chairman, Chief Executive i 24 Officer of Eastern Utilities, and Chairman of the Joint Owners 25 Executive Committee of the Seabrook Project. ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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5 1 MR. GRAM: George Gram, Project Director for the 2 Massachusetts Emergency ~ Planning Project for Seabrook. {- 3 MR. EVERETT: Vincent Everett, Manager of 4 Massachusetts Emergency: Planning. 5 MR. THOMAS:. George Thomas, Vice-President;of Nuclear 6' Production'for New Hampshire Yankee. 7 MR. FEIGENBAUM - Ted Feigenbaum, Vice-President,
.8 Engineering and Quality. Programs, New Hampshire Yankee.
9 MR. SWEENEY: Rob Sweeney, the Licensee Rep'here in 10 Bethesda'for NHY. 11 MR. DALENs Bill Daley.' I am-the' Licensee Manager 12 for_New Hampshire Yankee. 13 MR. MATTHEWS: Dave Matthews, NRC staff.
'14 MR. TURK: Sherwin Turk, Office of General Counsel, 15 NRC staff.
16 MR. CONGEL: I' m Frank Congel, NRC staff. 17 MR. MIRAGLIA: Mike Miraglia, NRR. 18 MR. STAROSTECKI Rich Starostocki, NRR. 19 MR. SNIEZEK: Jim Sniezek, ' Deputy Director,- NRR. 20 MR. REIS: Ed Reis, DGC/NRC. 21 MR. MURLEY: Tom Muriny, Director of NRR. 22 MR. NERSES: I' m Vic Nerses, NRR.- 23 MR. MENDIOLA Tony Mendiola,7 NRR. , 24 MR. FAIRTILE: Mort Fairtile, NRR. 25 MR. BOGER: . Bruce Boger, NRR. ( Heritage Reporting' Corporation (202) 628-4888
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l 6 1 MR. LONGS. Steve Long,.NRR. 2 MR. SPERBER: Marc Sperber, Nucleonics Week. 3 MR. . PICKETT: Eugene. pickett, Newman-&'Holtringer. j J 4 MR. WEERAKKODY: Sunil Weerakkody, NUS Corporation. - 5 MR. LAZARUS: Bill Lazarus,' -NRC Region I. 6' MR. BORES: : Bob Bores, NRC Region'I. . ;)
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7 MS. GOREN: Jennifer Goren, Harman & Weiss. l 8 MR. PERROTTI: Don Perrotti, NRC staff. ) Y 9 MR. TROTTIER:- Ed Trottier, Project. Engineer for' j i 10 Seabrook, NRR. 11 MR. HAMPE:. Dick Hampe, New Hampshire Emergency 12 Management. 13 MR. BROWN: Gil Brown, ACRS/NRC. 14 MR. NEWBERRY: Scott Newberry, NRC.. 15 MR. TABATABAI: -Ali Tabatabai,'ACRS Fellow. 16 MS. ROBERTS: Janis Roberts, Emergency' Planning 17 Advisory. 18 MR. CALLENDRELLO: Tony Callendrello, New Hampshire 19 Yankee Emergency Planning. 1 20 MR. FIERCE: Allan Fierce, Massachusetts-Attorney 21 General's Of fice. 1 22 MR. DIGNAN: Tom Dignan, Ropes & Gray. ) 23 MR. DERRICKSON: We have a presentation to make , 24 today. It is a more detailed presentation on' exactly where we 25 are today, and we would like to share that with.you before we. l l
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7 j 1 make our filing, hopefully, that will be -- 2 (Lights go out.) [ 3 MR. GRAM: We need some lights. 4 MR. NERSES: Thank you, George. l 1 5 MR. DERRICKSON l Before we get to the presentation, 6 John Eichorn has a few words that he would like to say.- l 7 MR. EICHORN I certainly appreciate your taking the f 8 time to be able to meet.with us. On behalf of the joint owners l I 9 I would like to say a few things before we start. 10 I believe'that since -- or maybe we announced it the 11 last time that we were here -- George Edwards, who 11 thought j 4 12 was to be here this morning but'must have been tied up at the 13 last moment, Chairman of United Illuminating and president of 14 United Illuminating, and I have been spending almost 100 per 15 cent of our time trying to work out some of the details and l 16 other things that have come between Seabrook and its being able l l l 17 to run. 1 l l 18 And I might say that George Edwards has been l 19 concentrating a great deal on the ConDress and legislative 20 activities, and modestly, I think he would like to be here to i 21 tell you a little bit about how was a little bit instrumental j 22 in influencing a vote that was taken on the . congressional floor ! I 23 concerning your appropriations for.the NRC. i 24 We hope that this demonstrates to you on how serious. l 25 we are about this project, and how much we are going to i' { Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4898 i s I
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1 dedicate to it. At the last meeting-on July 30, we out lined to -
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( 2 you our overall path and. told you some of the. general 3 guidelines on our timing. 1 I 4 We indicated that our utility plan would parallel the l L 5 Massachusetts state plan, and would incorporate all of the 6 lessons learned by LILCO. We have progressed a great deal on 7 that, and our people will bring you up to date on where we.are l 1 l 8 today.
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l 9 We have completed our recruiting and lined up a great 10 running facility. That's not all. I guess, in a. nutshell, 11 we' re on target. But to be sure that we did meet and' address,
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12 hopefully, all of the concerns that can be raised, we did i J l 13 deputire an independent emergency planning advisory panel l 14 consisting of 13 outside people. ( 15 This panel was chaired by Mike McCormack, and had . 16 many other folks,.whom I' m sure you will recognize. I'll skip l 17 over a couple of them and leave it to George or someone else to 18 fill in all of the details. 19 I' ve been impressed with this group. They have i 20 diligently gone through our plans and have made a preliminary 21 report, and they will give us a final report shortly. 22 But amongst the others that served with Mike
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23 McCormack was Dick Vollmer, ex-NRC, Dr. Ralph Ladd, Jim Asher, i 24 who used to be with FEMA, three people directly from the ' 25 Massachusetts EPZ who are giving us first hand information as l l' Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 l .
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1 to how our plan might fit in with their community. . , 2 And last but not least, and'I think shows a great { 3 deal of. insight in our people's part, we brought on Andre 4 Gauvenet from France to give us a critique on how they might 5 view our emergency plan. ]
'6 We will review this in detail, and if you have any 7 comments or suggestions, we certainly would welcome.them. :I 8 believe at the last meeting we requested you. folks to, i f you 9 could, review with the Federal Emergency Management l
10 Association, the schedule that we.had generally, broadly 11 outlined, and hopefully, if we can get some feedback on that 12 today.
-.i 13 Before I leave, though, and turn it back to Bill, I' d 14 like to make a couple of comments about public Service of New i
( ! 15 Hampshire's financial situation. I'm sure that you have read 1 16 in newspapers and other places that public Service of New l 17 Hampshire has indicated that without having some restructuring 18 of its capitalization debt structure, it indeed might have to 19 resort to filing for a Chapter 11 bankruptcy. proceeding. 20 And I think it would be wise for me just to comment, 21 for a moment, as to how that might affect the project. I' ll 22 tell you the conclusion, we don' t think it will affect it at , 23 all, and the reasons that we have concluded that follows. 24 public Service's current obligation for their debt i 25 interest payment is $52 million a quarter. If you multiply-52 ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 _-________________.___________m___J
_ ,, .u..~ ,.u u u.. m & ,. . w m . , , 10 1 by four, you come up with 208 million. That's cash which'is 2 required to meet their current debt. [ 3 Now, our expenditures at Seabrook, as you well know, 4 are less than $10 million a month. The public Service portion 5 of that 10 million is 35 per cent, 3,500,000 a month. If you 6 multiply that t imes 12, you' ve ' got 42 million for the year. I 7- What they.are selling us that.if they should get a 8 restruct uring of their. current debt, they would be seeking from 9 their current debt holders a relief from that interest payment-10 .for a period of time, be it two years or whatever they are 11 going to put in their plan. . 12 I don' t know their plan, but I tell you that this is
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20 don' t have to make the interest payment of $52 million a 21 quarter. Now, you might say that if they have to go to the 22 bankruptcy proceeding, that the court would appoint an 23 administrator, and if such an administrator shouldn't be the l 24 current management, you might say, well, maybe he won' t want ' to. 25 be interested or a person might not want to be interested an ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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2 I can tell you, such will be far from the case 1 3 because 70 per cent of Seabrook's current assets are. invested 4 in Seabrook, and any' court-appointed receiver would want to 5 protect 70 per cent of his assets. 6 So we feel very, very comfortable with.the situat' ion i 7 as far as public Service is concerned, not that we envy.thcm 8 for what they are into, nor would we want to be in. it ourselves i
'9 in our own companies, but we don' t think it need concern you 10- nor the project.
11 Last but not least, I think we told you last.timei 12 when we were here, that indeed, when we do file our plan, we 13 intend to re-initiate our request.for our five per cent t - 14 license. 15 Bill, if you would like to continue from here, I 16 would appreciate it. 17 MR. DERRICKSON: Thank you, John. 'By way ofLagenda, l 18 we' re in the brief introduction. Following that,' George Gram l l 19 and Vince Everett will give you a relatively detailed status 20 report on all the activities associated with the utility plan 21 from Massachusetts. 1 22 We will follow with a'ochedule review and a follow-up . 23 discussion on what we are all going to do now to get this l 24 document regeared so that we may obtain a five per cent and l l 25 subsequently a full power license for the facility. l , ( Heritage Reporting ' Corporation (202) E28-4888 L l , . .
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l 12 1 Before we turn it over to George, however, I would 2 Just like to re-emphasize the philosophy under which this ( 3 utility plan has been developed._ I think we told you some of 4 these criteria in the presentation on July 30, but to re-
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5 emphasize, we have developed a utility plan for the i 1 6 commonwealth of Massachusetts within the tLn mile EPZ for the l 7 plume and ingestion pathway.as well.
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8 We are providing compensatory action'for the lack'of 9 pre planning of the state and the local communities, and the' 10 details of that also will be forthcoming here momentarily. 11 We' ve established the capability and resources to 1 12 fully implement the plans. George will give you a detailed 13 status report on all those plans and the facilities. We have , 14 assumed a best effort by the state and local government during ( 15 an actual emergency, the realism argument,,if you will. l l 16 We provide for the integration of New Hampshire I 17 Yankee offsite emergency organization with.the state and local 18 response groups in both New Hampshire and Massachusetts. We' ve 19 tried to bridge the gap in the interface between the states. 20 As we' ve said, we' ve tried to parallel the 21 Massachusetts state plan as much as possible. That state plan 22 is used for the Vermont Yankee plant, the Pilgrim plant, and ; 23 the Yankee-Rowe Plant. 24 We continue to work as best we can with the local 25 people and the ten mile EpZ, and we do maintain -- and have i l ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 1 l l l-_-_-_-__-___-__ -
1 m . . . _ , - _,a .m.m.., ~ . m . _ I i 13 1 always in the past and always will in the future -- a good ; i { 2 faith effort to work with these folks on emergency planning for 3 Seabrook. I I 4 George? l 5 MR. GRAM: Thanks, Bill. My name is George Gram. We 6 would like to give you a little more detailed up date than we 7 did the last presentation of how the major activities of this 8 project break down into four main categories plans, 9 procedures, recruitment training, drills and exercises, and 10 facilities and equipment. 11 We' d like to cover a couple of overviews up front of I 1 1 12 where we presently stand. 13 (Slide.) 14 Since we began planning on this project in October 15 1986, the Seabrook Plant for Massachusetts communities is now l 16 completed and in draft seven. It's been through at least six 17 expert reviews that are completed, and all their comments have 18 been addressed and incorporated. 19 The Independent Emergency planning Advisory panel has 20 reviewed the plan, and we have their preliminary comments, as l 21 John Eichorn rnentioned. We have had all of our final 22 management reviews, and comments have been addressed, and the 23 plan has also been reviewed by the New Hampshire Office of 24 Emergency Management for New Hampshire state interfaces, and we 25 have completed that review and incorporated their comments and ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 ! 1 l am
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3 we are this week going.through file editing. Our schedule : 1
-4 calls for publication and binding the latter part of this week, 1 5 and submittal' to the NRC next week. 'I I
6 At the same time we do that submittal to the NRC and: 7 the service list, we will transmit all_ volumes of the plan to 8 Massachusetts state and local government officials. 9 Some of the typical source: documents that went into 10 the preparation of this plan, and the procedures and the 11 appendices, Just a quick over view. 12 (Slide.) 13 NRC Commission decisions, COI 87-02 and 87-03 in 14 relation to Seabrook, and also Shoreham 86-13. NRC and FEMA ; 15 regulations and also NRC and FEMA guidance documentation, new 16 reg 05654. l 17 Also, to maintain the interface with Massachusetts, 18 the Radiological Emergency Response plan for the Commonwealth 19 of Massachusetts, which is the generic state plan for all 20 Massachusetts nuclear plants. 21 The LILCO (LERO) plan. The New Hampshire 1 i 22 Radiological Emergency Response plan, which is the state of New 23 Hampshire's plan for Seabrook, and also the Onsite Seabrook 24 Station Radiological EmerDeney Response plan. l 25 (Slide.) -l l ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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15 1 At this time I would like to turn the presentation { 2' over to Vince Everett, who is the Manager of Emergency 3 ' planning, to cover some of'the operational aspects.that'are-4 included in the plan. Vince? 5 (Slide.) 6 MR. EVERETT We have several areas that we want to 7 describe. The first one is the notification of'the public. In' , 8 noti ficat ion of the ' public, we have a prompt ' notification system, a siren system from the ten mile Emergency P1'anning 9 10 Zone. 11 We also have an arrangement with the Emergency-12 Broadcast System, with two radio stations under. letters of i 13 agreement with us now, and we have a very strong public 14 relations program that we would implement during the emergency 15 actions. 16 The prompt notification system can be activated from 17 either the control room er our emergency operations center. We 18 can activate either all, part, or by municipality, or in a PA 19 mode for beach notification. 20 We have steps and procedures to coordinate our l 21
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{ 2 Inside area emergency, those actions b3come 3 conditions that we do implement. In general emergency, we have 4 pre-determined actions based upon the core and containment- . 5 conditions and the status- of the plant. j- 6 Considerations for evacuation and sheltering, we.look' 7 at such factors as the evacuation time estimate,'the projected' 8 doses through our calculations in the EOC -- if we. sheltered w. 9- if we evacuated -- we look at' current weather and forecasts, 10 status of our staff deployment, and any road' impediments'that 11 could impact the' estimated time for evacuation. 12 We'also have proteetive action recommendationsLfor 13 the ingestion-pathway set up, which include.the FDA preventive 14 and protective emergency proteetive actions, and we have a list .; 15 of food pathway, farms, dairies,. water sources, etc. 16 For implementation of the evacuation, we have an 17 evacuation coordinator who heads this operation, under him we 18 have traffic and access control, busses, ambulances, and van 19 resources, we have a staging area, which is identified for the 20 emergency workers to respond to to receive briefings, 21 dosimetry, and be dispatched. 22 At transfer points, road crews, for our facilities we 23 have' arrangements for snow removal. We also have local 24 liaisons that will go,to the six community EOCs to assist and l
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4 host facilities for evacuations of schools, nursing homes, 5 hospitals, day-care centers. We also look at the schools 6 outside the Ep2 who have students that may be living in the 7 EPZ, and we have special arrangements for hearing impaired,-
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I B including door-to-door notification if they do not answer when 9 we try to-phone call'them on initial attempts. 10 For support to state and. local governments, we have-11 two state liaisons, one of which will respond to the
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l 13 EOC in Tweksbury. We have the local' liaisons, school liaisons, ! i 14 and special liaisons, one each for each of the six communities, 15 which will respond, support them, or will work out of their 16 staging area if a community EOC is not available. 17 And we have available to us the Massachusetts 18 governmental interface communications system as a communication 19 link with the Massachusetts response organizations. 20 For field monitoring and sampling, we have two 21 primary field mo:eitoring teams. We have six sampling teams. l 22 Our teams are mostly composed of Yankee Atomic Personnel who 23 are experienced in radiological protection. l 24 For our re-entry recovery, we have provisions for the 25 establishment of a recovery action committee headed by.the l ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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1 offsite response director, which includes key members of his : 2 staff. We also have arrangements to include in this committee ( 3 representatives of FEMA, the state of New Hampshire, the state 4 of Massachusetts, Seabrook Station, and representatives from 5 each of the municipalities that are impacted. 6 The overall coordination of recovery. effort would be 7 done by this discovery action committee, i l 8 (Slide.) d I 9 The concepts of operation. The offsite director is 10 the lead person in command and control'. He has two assistants 11 available to him. Each assistant is equally qualified to 12 function in that role should he not be available. 13 Each lead person under the offsite response director l 14 has predetermined actions based upon various conditions that 15 could occur, such as change in emergency classification or 16 change of protective action recommendations. 17 The offsite response director is the lead person in I 1 18 determining protective actions and interfacing with FEMA, the 19 state of Massachusetts and the state of New Hampshire 20 governors, and the Seabrook Station response manager. He can l 21 commit resources and can request federal assistance from FEMA. 22 For notification, the initial notification comes out 23 of the control room through a dedicated system, which includes 24 tne state of New Hampshire, currently, the state of l l 25 Massachusetts State Patrol, and the 24 hour security. person at ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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I 19 1 our emergency respone,e emergency operations center. j 2 The security person at our emergency operations { , 3 center then implements notification of staff through an aut'o-4 dialer system through key members who are on pagers, and 5 through a back-up' phone tree,'if necessary. 6 For radiological, we have the same system an the 7 Seabrpok Station EOF personnel use, which is the metpack dose 8, projection systen, s i'; h on Hp 41 back-up. We' ve conducted 9 jbint radiolog!:41 operations with the EOF, and in addition, 10 that had the independent capability to evaluate and verify 11 tho,9e projections on our own'. 12 We conducted joint field team operations to 13 coor'dinate pettvAties with the state of New Hampshire and 14 Seabrook Station, hid we have dosimetry available for all 15 personnel that are compatible with the state of New Hampthire 16 and the state of Massachusetts' dosimetry. I 17 In addition, we have arrangements with Yenkee Atomic 18 throuDh thejr mutual assistance agreement to obtain additional r
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19 radiological personnel. For evacuation, we have provisions for 1 20 notifying, assisting, and providing the resources for the 21 evacuation of schools, hospitals, nursing homes, special needs j 22 persons, hearing impaired. j 23 These resources include busses, ambulances, vans. l l 24 George Era.m, in a little bit, will give you a break down of
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q 1 For public information, the Joint media center; ] j 2 operat ion that . is currently conducted and . in place .with New ( 3 Hampshire state and Seabrook Station, that has been through 4 :several drills and evaluated, will be the organization that.we , 5 will factor into with our people to conduct rumor control. 6 , -We will;have anfidentified,spokespersonffor,our. ., l 7 organization, and we will coordinate press releases with the 1 8 state of New Hampshire and-Seabrook Station from the joint s 9 media center. 10 Local an'd ' federal liaisons. -The offsite response 11 director,: as I described earlier, is the key interface with the. 3 i 12 governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire and:the Seabrook: 13 Station response manager. i 14 The state of New Hampshire has an instant field (~. 15 office, which is co-located'at the emergency operations j 16 facility of Seabrook Station, and the lead person there will be- i 17 the primary' contact with our organization. 18 The two assistant outside response directors are i 19 assigned interface and coordination activities with i 20 Massachusetts and the federal agencies in coordinating the l 1 21 resources and actions that are underway. I [- 22 We also have a local liaisons, a special populations. 1 23 coordinator, the school liaisons. In addition we have ! 24 . dosimetry record keeping personnel with dosimetry,-that will go- :j 25 to the local EOCs, i f allowed, and be able to provide dosimetry ,l ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 I
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4 We also'have two state liaisons which are available .) 5 to go to the state EOCs in Framingham.and Tweksbury. , 6 MR.' MURLEY: I' m going to ask m . question, if,1)may.- ,) 7 MR. EVERETT: Yes. , l 8 M R. MURLEY: Did you say you are going to have 9 j letters of agreement from most of thesefinterfaces, and what i 10 you were relying on, resources? 11 MR. EVERETT:' For buses, ambulances, care centers, 12 reception centers, staging areas, yes.
~j 13 MR. GRAMS. Letters of~ agreement or contracts. ;
i 14 MR. MURLEY: Okay. So they' ll be part of the ' ! k -' 15 package. 16 MR. GRAM: Yes. 17 MR. EICHORN: Yes. ~j 18 MR. MURLEY: Now, if experience runs true to fortn, 19 we' l l get some people that say, no, we didn' t agree to that, or 20 teachers that say, no, we' re not going to take part. How'are 21 you -- have you faced that? How are you going to deal with 22 that? 23 MR. GRAM Yes. Most of the primary. facilities,,like 24 the reception center, staging areas, the'EOC, are utility owned 25 property, from existing owners. You' ll see in the - ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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12 each one of these items,'if in fact there are specific problems l 13 or still things to be done about those particular areas and'so= 14 on, can you add a little bit to the story about whether or not. (. l 15 there are problem areas still. dealing with any one of-these l 16 items or if there is some work that is incomplete and still has 17 to be done, just so that we could get a feeling for what each q l 18 one of these items look like. I understand what their function- I 19 i s, but I would like to get a feeling for whether or not you 1 20 are still having any particular-problems in the areas. ! 1 ! l 21 MR. GRAM: My name is George Gram. Maybe I can ! 22 address some specifics. As an example, the emergency . 23 operations center, that is presently under lease and it is 24 going through the internal modifications, and we are moving l l 25 equipment and sutting radio equipment right now. .There is a 1 l ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (282) 628-4888 : i ___________z_1______________________ _.___
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- 6. operational. It has been through a graded exercise for the 7 State of New Hampshire. The staging area is in the process of a being vacated by the utility that owns it. We are staging 9 equipment. We already have all of the plans laid out of what 10 will be located in there and how the equipment will be stored.
11 And we are staging all of that, and we have a detailed schedule 12 to relocate and set that up. And setting that facility up 13 coincides with our real schedule which you will see here a 14 little later. 15 The same way with the receptions centers. The 16 layouts of the reception centers where the reception center 17 sign-up for congregate care would be, that is a11' laid out. We 18 have identified facilities like tables and chairs and things 19 that are needed. 20 And the emergency worker DCON. monitoring facility and 21 the monitoring trailers which are three, they have all been 22 purchased. The first one is due to arrive on site this 23 Saturday, and it will also be used in our training drill 24 sessions. 25 MR. NERSES: That helps give me a.little bit of a ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 i
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27 I checklists. P { 2 The task procedures, there are fifteen total. task procedures are oriented toward activities such as The 3 t 4 recommendations for protective' actions for the public, our pars 5 for the ingestion pathway, public information operations,Lthe 6 activation of the system, and so on. i i 7 Facilities procedures, there are five in total which ' 8 are for the activation and operation and deactivation of,our -l 9 emergency facility including the EOC, staging area, monitoring- q l 10 trailers, and reception centers. 11 The planned maintenance' procedures include five le total. This included provisions for a planned procedure q l 13 development review and approval for our equipment maintenance, , 1 14 for communication tests, and for the FEMA letter of I ( 15 certification as required annually. .I 16 At this time, I would like to turn .it ' back over to . 17 George Gram to continue the presentation. 18 MR. GRAM: I might just mention for Vince that all of - 19 these items that he has covered that they are all completed and 20 will be part of the plan submittal. 21 (Slide) 22 Maybe the next phase here will ~ fill in some of the 23 detailed information on resources and facilities for you. 24 MR. NERSES: Okay. 25 MR. GRAM In the area of recruiting, the New ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 1 i e-T u___----.__.--._- - _ - _ _ _ _ _ - _ . _ _ _ _ _ . _ - _ _ _ _ _ . - - _ - - - - - - - - _ - ---
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{ 2 up of all utility wort *s from different joint' owned utilities, 3 has resulted in 807 required physicians to man various j 4 emergency worker positions first shift, second shift, and there i i 5- is a back-up for every physician. 6 We presently have all of those positions filled with 7 emergency workers. And in addition to that, we have 414 excess I B emergency workers who have volunteered to fill positions. ) 9 In the area of contracted emergency responders, such. 10 as bus drivers, ambulance drivers, tow trucks, wheelchair van 11 drivers, the plan requires 664 of those. type positions. We 12 presently have all of those positions filled, and we have 279 13 excess emergency responders signed up. 14 As an example, an ambulance = requires.three emergency ] l k i 15 responders. Because in the State of Massachusetts, it requires ;
.1 16 three ETMs to man an ambulance. So it might be one vehicle, J 17 but three people.
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7 DR. MURLEY: Okay. 1 8 (Slide) l 9 MR. GRAM: In th9 area'of training, we presently 10 require in the plan fifteen trainina modules. Seven of those' ,q l 11 modules are completed. The~ remaining eight will be completed l l 12 by the end of this month'. Our training program requires a i 13 staff of twelve, all of those people on staff. Our training 14 i sessions'for overview emergency training' began Monday of this 15 week. All of the basic training will be completed by the 25th 16 of this month. And we begin physician specific training also 1 17 this month, and that will be' completed the 23rd of next. month. i l 18 And you can see in the area of drills and exercises ;l 19 that all of our physician specific training is completed prior 20 to our functional drills beginning on the 28th of October. And 21 the functional drills follow that sequence that'is shown on the 22 slide. 23 We begin staging area, traffic, and access control. i 24 As Vince mentioned, that is the point in time that we intend to , 25 have the staging area completely outfitted and manned and j ( Heritage' Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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{ 2 used in our training and our drill exercises. 3 TLDs and pencil dosimeters, we require 12,075. If ; 4 you notice, we purchased double that amount in both areas. One 5 is for a recalibration change-out. That is one of the reasons 6 for that. The other big reason is for additional dosimeters j 7 and TLDs for Massachusetts of ficials should they choose to 8 participate. 9 And monitoring trailers which we have mentioned have 10 been purchased, and they start arriving the latter part of this 11 week. The plan requires 401 buses for a full evacuation. We l 12 nave 612 under letters of agreement or contracts. Ambulances, 13 the plan requires 44, and we have 50. Tow trucks, 12, and we f 14 have 31 under letters of agreement or purchase orders. And l \ 15 wheelchair vans, 59, and we have 75 signed up. l I 16 There are several things that are still ongoing as l 17 far as resources. As an example, Appendix L of the plan is the l 18 ingestion pathway food sources and water 9ources. It is the 19 list that was developed by the State of Massachusetts. It is - l 20 presently the list that exists in the State of Massachusetts' l 1 21 radiological plan generically. We era in the process of 22 updating that. It is about two years old. So we are updating l 23 that list looking for dairy farms that went out of business or 24 new ones that started up, and things like that.
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3 specificity that you have assumed'in this plan that i 4' Massachusetts will do? 5 MR. GRAM: If I could' address that. We sat down and-6 developed a philosophy. You know,~ you explore'what the 7 extremes of the possible items are. One extreme is that the B Governor of Massachusetts could elect to use all of'our 9 resources, and we have the resources and capability to do~a 10 complete evacuation of'all of the communities inside the EpZ in 11 Massachusetts. And we can offer that to the Governor, and he can elect to just tell us to go and . implement' our plan. 'I 12 ] l 13 The other extreme is that he.does not avail-himself j i 14 of any of those resources and he does it internally or.does ] (- R 15 nothing. In reality, it is going to be somewhere in between, j l 16 MR. EICHORN: We think. 17 MR. GRAM: We think. And/we have developed in our' 18 . plan the ability to integrate on a one to one basis 'with the I 19 different state agencies that are involved to notify them of- l J 20 what resources we have available and what resources we can . 21 provide. And if they meet all of those resources or a portion
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i 16 MR. DERRICKSON: We have run an exercise in the State i 17 of New Hampshire. 18 DR. MURLEY: I was there. 19 MR. DERRICKSON: And the State of New Hampshire is 20 participating. 21 DR. MURLEY: It still takes a large number of your 22 own company resources. l 23 MR. DERRICKSON: We have those positions identified. 24 DR. MURLEY: And those are above and beyond what you 25 have identified? ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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'I 17 into the schedule here, will the exercise take into account the H 18 impact of what is going on in New Hampshire as well. It is two 19 questions, I guess.
20 Do you expect to be graded on the overall response, i 21 both states at the same time, or is Just a Massachusetts state 22 exercise? 23 MR. GRAM: My expectation is that it would be a 24 Massachusetts graded exercise along with the interfaces i 25- involved with on site and the State of New Hampshire. (' Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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6 follow-up to Tom's quest ions. 7 Taking: the worst case, if' the. State of. Massachusetts q 8 did not respond and you were not delegated' authority to do~ 1 9 functions, what kind of'hard spots would you run?into? l 10 MR. GRAMi> You run into.one,.debilityLto' direct ' 11 traffic. . Now whether orinot.you'would.be breaking the. law in. 12 the middle of an emergency evacuation anditelling. cars where.tof 13 do, I think is a legal issue to.be resolved., You know,11 think 14 that our philosophy is that the objective is to protect th'e U 15 public as much'as possible. 16 We do not have the legal authority to sound'the q
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f 39 1 sirens to notify the public of what is going on in New { 2 Hampshire, and that we are attempting to contact the State of 3 Massachusetts and have them implement the same recommended 4 actions or give us the authority to recommend them. 5 MR. SNIEZEK Do you have the authority to go and 6 knock on the people's doors in Massachusetts now? 7 MR. GRAM: Sure. 8 Are there any other questions? 9 MR. MATTHEWS: How would it impact your scheduling if 10 you were have to do an exercise in New Hampshire and 11 Massachusetts at the same time? 1 12 MR. GRAM: I do not think that I can answer that. 13 MR. BROWN: I do not think that any of us can. 14 MR. DERRICKSON: What was the question? 15 MR. BROWN: The question was how would it impact our l l l 16 schedule if we have to do a combined Massachusetts and New l 17 Hampshire exercise. 1 18 MR. GRAM: I think it would depend on when New 19 Hampshire is scheduling their next exercise, or if they have 20 one scheduled. 21 MR. DERRICKSON: To tell you the truth, about 25 22 minutes ago, I wrote myself a note to do that, because I read 23 your minds 25 minutes ago, Dr. Murley. 24 DR. MURLEY: It would have been two years in February 25 I guess. l (' Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 l
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{ & specific 24 months. Sometime in 1988, New Hampshire has to 1 3 exercise their-plan again, is'that correct? 4 MR. .MATTHEWS No. It is at such time'as you would 5 want to go to above five percent - power, you would have had to 6 have demonstrated that a. full participation exercise was. l 7 conducted in both states. .All right. So it is a moving window 8 24 months along that. precedes going above five percent rated 9 power. In other words, it'says'within two years you will have 10 had to have had a fu11' participation exercise. 11 MR. DERRICKSON: We will look at that from a schedule 12 standpoint. 13 MR. BROWN: This is Ed Brown again. In response to 14 the question that was asked about whether or not the Governor (- i 15 of Massachusetts would participate, we are making an ] l 16 assumption, although the plan gives us the flexibility, we are 1 l 17 making the assumption that in the remote event of an accident ] 18 that if people's lives are in danger, .that the Governor of 19 Massachusetts would take whatever actions would be necessary.to 20 protect the public health and safety. 21 MR. GRAM: At this point, I would like to turn it 22 back over to Bill Derrickson. 23 MR. DERRICKSON: Before we talk schedules, are there 24 any other detailed questions of either George or Vince? 25 D R. MURLEY: I do not believe so. ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888
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-4 that'we showed you on~ July 30th,.and it is updated through1the 5 middle of this month which is about now. And as you'can see, 6 in all cases with training, recruiting, resources, facilities, 7 and communication, we are on schedule as well planned 8 procedures for submitting this plan next, week.
9 (Slide) I l 10 However, we are going to continue, as George Gram has -i 11 indicted, to acquire additional facilities, additional 12 ambulances, buses and so forth, to have a margin in the event 13 that some of these folks eventually, some day in the future,- 14 decide to drop out. We want to be well covered. And that will (.. i 15 be ongoing and even beyond what is shown on this schedule. ! 16 And we will look at the combined graded exercise in-17 April / late March. And that may effect the date somewhat, I H 18 don' t know at this pointi but.we will get back to you. 19 (Slide.) 20 In looking at Where do we go now? -- the question 21 on my mind, and I hope that it is either on yours or'I can l l 22 stimulate it to be. When we submit the plan, we need to i 23 establish a set of vehicles for reviewing the document, for ,
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(. 15 -- and our counsel will be filing-a' motion to lift the' stay on l 16 the 5 percent license. 17 DR. MURLEY: Well,'then clearly, that's in the hands - 18 of the Commission -- I mean the Commissioners at that stage. - 1 19 So, we take our guidance from them. But in any case, we will l 20 begin our review of the plan. 21 MR. DERRICKSON: I would like to Just come back to l 22 this for a moment. I want to be sure we are all on the same 23 wave length. CLI-8703 has some specificity.in terms of.what we: ! 24 think the Commission wanted by way of an emergency plan, a-E5 utility plan. And, as I read it and we read it with our L 1 ( Heritage ' Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888' 1. 1
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.1 9 requirements of CLI-8703. And.I guess to the extent'that the 10 Commissioners has you, the staff, for your opinion, we would 11 hope that if there are any. questions related to those 12 particular issues that we can set up a prompt meeting, schedule j 1
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, 5 MR.-DERRICKSON: And one final thing. Ed Brown would 6 like to close the meeting with some words about'public 7 information.
i 8 MR. BROWN: We have a communications program which we 1 l 9 will be engaging in shortly to inform and educate residents J
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11 to require considerable resources on our.part to do so. 12 However, we intend to implement it and implement ' it to the , I 13 fullest so that the people within the zone, particularly.in. j 14 Massachusetts will be aware of what is being developed in.the 15 plan and what to expect. 16 In closing, I would like to say also that the joint 17 owners have given their fullest commitment to the development i 18 of the emergency plan and project management.is giving it the. 19 highest priority and dedicated whatever resources are-necessary 20 in order to bring it to completion. 21 One thing we didn' t mention is one of us was ' going to ' i 22 talk more about this blue r'ibb'on panel and who the constituents 23 were on that panel. And I see' John has a. list. 24 MR. EICHORN If I could just quickly go through it 'i 25 for you. ( Heritage Reporting Corporation (202) 628-4888 C __._____m.___.____-.__.m------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - " - - - - - - - " ' - - - -
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'3 licensees. It.is governed,.to some extent, by the'. course that 4 this takes now. But, in any case,-as I said, we will: await' 5 your filings and your' plan and we will' schedule our review.
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( PLAN PHILOSOPHY e Develop a utility plan for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts within the Seabrook EPZ (plume and ingestion pathway) e Provide com pensatory actions for the lack of preplanning of state and ocal governments e Establish capability and resources to fully implement the plans e Assume "best effort" by state / local government during ar 'ctual emergency e Preade for integration of NHY Offsite Response Organization with state / local response (New Hampshire and Massachusetts) e Parallels Massachusetts' State Plan as much as possible e Maintain good faith efforts with state and local (. communities to facilitate continuing coordination with Massachusetts i i NHY PRESENTATION TO THE NRC EMERGENCY PLANNING FOR MASSACHUSETTS September 16,1987
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C PL.ANS and PROL cOURES - STATUS Major Accomplishments e Seabrook Plan for Massachusetts Communities Completed (draft 7) e Expert Reviews completed and comments addressed ' , l e Independent Emergency Planning Advisory Panel Review complete and comments addressed e Final Management Review conducted and comments addressed e New Hampshire Office of Emergency Management Review for N H Interfaces Review complete and comments addressed 1 i NHY PRESENTATION TO THE NRC EMERGENCY PLANNING FOR MASSACHUSETTS September 16,1987 1
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