ML20136H440
| ML20136H440 | |
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| Site: | Crane  |
| Issue date: | 11/19/1984 |
| From: | GENERAL PUBLIC UTILITIES CORP. |
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| SP-I-TMIA-012, SP-I-TMIA-12, NUDOCS 8508200318 | |
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Ie morning that it started on March 28th, ' -c 2:
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- old to come in, did no: know or have any indication of what the preble vas e:her j
A as th n we had turbine and reactor trip in Unit 2.
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erme in - it tock me about a half an hour, so somewhere around 5 c'cleci. I ca e in --
Nder vcnc :o the control rec = in 1* nit 2 and was told by George Mr :ht: zka we had unusual cecurrences in the reactor bidp.* he really did not descr'ia Oc =a an. cetails 1
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.c the iodine :.cnitor holding a charcea*. car:rg ge, a larre amount cf water care cu:.
I i=ediately closed it back up and wie the a-m.:
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in there, ey first thcught va's that we had sore type of a stes. environ =tet in the e~A tS2 n ater 1 g sone
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recctor b1dg. ateor;here causing"se condensation in the sa ple lines e o
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he' told me at the time that we vere run. int, in o r:51cn:
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They had run a beren anc'. they ca~e ou: vi h a nucher of st:ut.
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700 p;r, he vanted ce to check : hat because ue J'.
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wanted te verify thst-se-we-hed what our boron contant var se I tr:edia:ely van: over ti to our Unit i HP lab.*
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ed was a little bit tire.he though: =aybe he did screv up, cn from 11-7 that nightj
, pere h,e vanced to have someone else verify it so I grabbed a second tech and I asked cO h of them to run a saeple; take one sample, split it and each of the: run the analysis.
Th:y did that, they get about 400 ppm each, I think they were abou: 5 ;; cff en the :v:
I' an:1yses e asse=ble Is the other T,roup ve're genna,,samah, right?'
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.but a guy like me, I a.1vays ret nailed for these interviews en a da/ cen !'m being sh ved around and then s::ebcdy =akes s 1.uctinE tape.ind I re ter see it.
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L;ng: You'll see this cae.
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I understand. *id*.
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- epe:he maybe they have. -- be :pu: err.petner t5e decurentation that ex:.s:s for the n::tf,'ca:ict.s
<o cnd things' that vare rade before it's ;c ne.-
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1 put that tcEether Long:
That's what I really need.
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If all we're gonna have is we're genna get killed tha: da: hour by hcur : had e:
many idekin) people on the phone vich ne looking for me was in the I.:. Gev's..;,q..,
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I know.
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-::gother,. for us b.eccusa that chrenclogy that y:u've leeko?. at is really talking a'::ut the I
15 r:petorland Dieckamp and Arnold and Herbein are saying, " Hey, we're ge::inc pressured l.
about 'Did we notify people?' 'Rev do ve nake a decision?'"
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f3: Will guys like me end get copies of some of the-eeaff-we this kind ef stuff I
.)' is your making out now?
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Jesus Chr.ist!
You St v, it's the 1
i ih' enly thiny I got' :o f antliari:e ryself eith * ".s kirt of -htnr.
isng: F re,'s the status of this thin; here:
.*e s:ar: a reviev vith :.a 't?'s and Eerman laa; night; they said, " Hey, ycu get s: s cen,'se ures in there.'
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,s have to) }ut they said, "Take that cu: and en'y give us : uff : hat yeu :t actua*1v l-a documenbi aither free the centre
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inferre !".:and wher. We're to have that t.o ther temerret*
.L en the street as socn as as they've said OK.
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I just talked to the KS.C yes:ctday and,::f ay...
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Why l don't you let me give you cy versten cf 1: in star,es?
Like I; :ake y:u frer e"t...
4 to 8 and l von' t go thru the de: ails of the trip but I'll tell you whers 1 was trc=
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n 4 to 5 apd let the fill in tili ! c' clock ar.i then go f rom 6 :o 12.
Lonst OK, but rer. ember I'm only trying to f e:us e
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,tiri - ch the decision to initiate site ererrency, :he decisioni:e in:: tate Fanera'.
1 cmargency, wh'at you based those on, when you did I.ar as well as. vs-cur. ittntify that,
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!:,,.dy I had' called at quarter to six in the morning and had been told that Unit 2 had tripped). Ah, I'm the Unit i superintendent and f rankly, just 'the f act r
l that they hd tripped 6t vas not a totally unusually sort of thing.
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said thatj diey were having sor.e sor: of a problem vi:h press.trizer level so e..
i..,,It* didn' t Ma.k e ~.it sound like iv-shat at: ::bTt poin there ves'no'~real cause ic for an abaop.a1 ancunt of alar =, but he did say, "h n't r,1ve 1* nit 2 any
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troub:saboutthestea=!). Uni: 1 was ho: at tha: :ize, and we were rscoverint
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heating t6 one of the two units at a time.
1 i=adta ely g:: on the phone
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cuma:ancegao I'll'c'all the shif t supervis:r and :sil hi-tha:, " Hey, don't
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j give Unit 2*jh:ptrouble;thesteamgoestoUnit1." I tried to cal
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he was in the ':nt: 2 con r:1 room.
I though: Oh, ve!.. he's over there
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and I can 't:. reach him and I'= not gonna bo:her th:- in :he::.ddle of this E
thingifkh!.a'yrehaving;:e'riers.
So 7 vatthd 1* -ore minu:e's and ; knev i
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my superviser cf cpera:1 cts would be in about tha: ties and I tried to call h*
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And..t).ey said, " Yeah, he's in, but he's over in Unt: 2."
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"Oh, ny pesh; you-knowc.-oo they really do have sene problems."
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- fell', I'd better go in and make sure that nobody gives Uni: 2 anW trouble
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That usukd was my objective as.1 star:ed out and 1 g::
on site at a quarter to seven in the perning and e s.1-ver.t freethe..Is*
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passed be :ves the security bids and the front do:r hero in '.'t.it 1, the vira:
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T r:memb0r, I a gd my stuf ff eff ct my Sf fice\\.d th;n I secreed runninc the l
oth r way, not b::auso Il, vent:d t$ run tha eth:r way, but b:ccuso I fers t to I
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pick up =y TLD and I knav-I was sonna be wherever I was gonna be a long time, So I figured I'd better h, ave n/ TLD with me so I want back to the security centeG li
,i and go: =y TLD ran to the Uni: 1 control ron=, which is where I'm supposed e
to be. And also ! had seen Jce Logan's car in the parking lot -- he's the
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Unit 2 superintendent - jtdoIfigured:
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problen-because-it :.:as heving a 1robler., and 2. I knee that the opposite e
t ft unit su;erintendent was nuppesed to take charre in his respective ec. trol b
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room, s:
ven: :: the U:itz. I centrol roc: ar.4 fro: :5:e uni: & con:rci rom:
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l' s:arted :: try -- and heres where it's fogry in ter:s of wha: we :ried to i
t do nov, but we pu*.* ed cut the e-crgency plan, I rarerber : hat, s:c.rted to i
3l'S follov :he evergen:7 plan' and started to try to do se e of the of f-site r
ce== uni sting and here's v.re f t get' fcgg.* as te whether we were d:ing tha:
-3 cr whef.er Uni: : vas t::al.ly doing that.
In additt:r. :: that, we troke out
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all the iseple:hs and the a,res : apr* and started tryinr. :: trackthefuraas y
bes: we ::uld and estat*.: s,$the ne:essary cer. unt:a: tens with uni: O per the 7(
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up and-ro114nt viu r'es;ect- :: that by, ah, vell, we vere se: up and reiling i
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by esse.:ially sewp-byt 7/e:lo:k,.a..f at$r 7; i.* 1."
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h vhat ties it was when I get to unit 2 centrol Sielinger;I was in sinit 1.
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I calle? you over there.
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Ycu ca'.* *d re over there.
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5:ilinger:At any rate, I was in the dnit 1. control foc= about betvcer. a half h ur and 45
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}n minutes and Cary7 calls'me over to Unit 2.p'I alternated between tha two control
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charge of the emerger.cy ce;ntrsi staticrgtheEOS;thefirs: day and when'dnit n.
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became unhabitable and plots ::ved over tg':,us.it 2 and then they r.ovc, the:
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back to unit I when i becare habitable spain; it was a matter of habitability m
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i that first day. ;This is very :enfused a,slitheeventsranc:getherscrething i1*-
dierca et: revise, but i dc re:6eber that i.r'$.. er.Jed up euca: ng the n:r.a1 ICS
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which was the HI peint.
That want to tiie6u'ntt 1 contrei re :. Unit 1 ccatrol L.'t. '
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s a while. Then that reved over to the unit.fi contrcl race.
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George Kunder was in the Unit 1 control r, eor and George ir prehably cn f the B.. z?
Peopic that, in my nind I think you ought.trbe talking to stva you a f ee.1 for w
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some of tae scaneri, but these are the c *.Is that Genrte 1.:/ ::.de. Yeu'11 psint c.f find thst almost a*.* cf these went. frcr; the site ernergenc: *,ust 1: mediate
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dihe a normal person and start to.wc;h., quarter et1* 7 Dan ca*. led na and Dan's
. i.gi-not an operator. Dan ssid, " Hey, there's radiatiog., Ee sa.d the sa:ple ro::s y,
ge: it.
We got one in the machine shop.
Mc dght have said het rachine 3
I1thar way it's nzt sor.eyitc= ! didn't expec.f,o'ne R/ then 1 starte.1 shop.
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By the ti::c,1:get here it was probably
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energen:y and at ths.t ;cint in the Unit 1 cer.dtrol; V6o I th:.ek titlinger em 1.r -
arrives and he was falping with that e,nd of it and ria'the unit 2 cor.tri roe:
M there was Joe Logan, Dick T.;ubiel, ike Ross, Cecrgai.K..under, tnd
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lfP cape.in-or ha vas. chete.
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.a I belit.ve ' Bill ErXI4 declared it.
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George declare it on the b.ssis o' a number of nenient s ar.d s
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$ hat's vhr.c 1 was told here.
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eemory is that crsund 7:20 or 7:25 v2 p=ccd thru 0 and I deciprod a*Cenar01 2
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emergency.
And at-the; tite that I got to the control room ot, briefed and-4--got the control room and-what-.I-dWas I said, 'All right, I'm py-in charge of the energency.
I'r. the emergen:y director." I :said, " Mike hoss,
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.iv g.q you'll :ake care of the plant ;cnd I'll only talk to you aboutf.the plant.
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and so forth,.ond cor=:unica:e with me."
I :cid Joe Lcgan to tst the. plan:' cut.
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Pf ght away, th'a I rur the drill hers, I talk :: 2twp :se.ier guys
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My ce=crj is :hu va ha'. cal $ci:.g :c :. hat i %'7F IT whole bur.ch, r?.C.. :he state; a: f&:sc 10 te 15 =inutes frec T e!cic:k ever/-
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site emargency declared i,g, Excuse re, Ji=, uhich logs and are chose f rer. the con;;:1 roo,=e 'rw.(
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Jim-It's still on the board when they called them in and these guys reconstructed i
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- this essential:.y fron chom betveen looking at the boarf of :he ti=es the notif6 cations.:are r.ade and these ruys being the guys that tid the,ca :.lir.g, rataarters
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t.~nich ::L' cifice?
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yha vould hcve been King of Prussic, I'm sure.
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-....nerify buyer, can't get hi ; 0?* 3, no:ifieN approxinctely 07,09, attenp:ed ::
-...,c Klinge.rfn at Met-Ed; 0713, called "r,adiation Management Corp a: Phila. Elec.11g
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, 0713, netified FA State Poli:e ; appr:ni;nately 3710, s::e:.p;ed :: contact A
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no one there exce; for opera::r, lef t a message for then to call us that it hs Mp:
p important; 0738, recal!.cd F.adia::.on'.~crp. at Phila Elec, to : ell : hem the gent::0 yf f
,.w energency, fotvard. nessage; a:pr:x. ~740, URC re u:ned call, the; will be dis-patching a team to the site, :ht pi..r.e was held open se they could be in s t
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.,f Civil D2fsnoo; 0704, Civil Dafcnso celled 3RR, I vgrifitd this with ERM with Mr. Gehris today. 0707, Met-Id assin called Civil Defense.
Or., the reason that happened that many times, I couldn't get anybody to tell me they had G L KudQef'
.. -. '... :..., pe:sonally talked to Kevin V. alloy and I even an -,ri = call him at home.
3 At 07C7 is when you told me that we had not gotten a call bac' from ETE and I Set on the phone and called Kevin W. alloy, I personally talked to him in 7
the Civil Defense office, told hir. get. sore (p4'y from the BRE cn the phone back to us, gave the= the te* cphona number, the 6017 number. Within 10 ni.2.cs there was_1 phor.e :t:1 hach and fron that point on ve established and open line.
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George said that at 7
4 07!0 the EFli ca*1ed back ar.d Geerce was on the p' hone with Jerusky. A$d Gacrge gave hin a run devr. of the plant.atacus and we kept the open line just like you I,p requested, Dick.
. Dick Right.
Uov I got the helicopter because the vind was blowing at its worst h E yE, condition,to.ee like 2 mi. heur#$ess ind that meant it would reach "cidsboro r.*
and if we hs.d z the 10
.. pr:jection that had first been given to ne which is based on a source term out of.taa h,1ds, out of the monitor of the b_dg that I I
was'in truble.
So va sent the helicopter, tho'eeter was read, and we had nothing. The helicopeter was over there and I don't know why it's not on there.
h'e our,ht to make sure that the lor,s of these state agenzies are a rpart i
of this docueenta: ion 'cause they've pot to show what I did.
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what hed been done yet,. but thus these guys all heep logs, the Civil Defense I
keeps *.sgs, the State Polica keeps legs, and they do it nor= ally and they do it in.e.. merge ~ncies, they'.re. : J.i't e F.
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Had a tea = dispatched in a car, had a tean dispatchel,in a holipopcor in tha M.
direction of the flu =e.
hh The car vould take approxina:ely andhour to get over there with morting traffic.
ick M zt was. o73o in.the oc:ning and that s uhy 1 ashed for the helicopter.
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It's sc::a be in :he log senevhere but it was :e'nfi-ed : ce that it vas here and it was lispatched.
De ve kn:v vherc... cnd =aybe, you do, Nick, ani ! den' t vc had the phe e Jim:
talkers cnd I cen:inusily renanber the: in the firs: ceu :* e days; tryinr, c ;;e l
the ph:ne talkers :: vri:e de n absolu:en ever-thin; the - heard because...
Ivi And I d:n' t Enc.v vha: '.cypene:8 to Don Berry's log.
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%i,N the phene talkers logs an3 every:hing else prcbct'.y ended :p in there.
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And then those have been transferred over to trailer "f. c: the obserratica center and put in the safe an' we'll go thru them.
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I here until a quar:cr-:11.>ight.
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