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{{#Wiki_filter:Community Engagement In the Decommissioning Process:
Implications for Spent Fuel David G Victor Chairman, Community Engagement Panel NRC REG CON Seminar Rockville, MD December 2018
 
Community Engagement Panel (CEP)
Who we are:                                    Functions as a Two-Way Conduit
* 18 Members
* Public Officials, NGO's, Labor, Business,
* Provides for SCE to learn about the Environmental, Native American concerns of the Community
* Quarterly Meetings
* Workshops
* Provides for Community to learn
* Expert Presentations                            about the impact of the
* Not a Formal Decision Making Body              decommissioning process
* No Official Oversight Function
* SCE (plant operator) provides resources for meetings, funded by decom trust fund
 
Public CEP Meetings
* Update From Edison With Timeline
* Expert Presentation
* Questions and Dialogue with CEP Members
* Public Comment and Question Period
* Questions Directed to Expert or SCE
* Currently trying to revamp public comment and public engagement
 
Planned Future State A Surprise For Many!
Today                Late 2020's
 
Public Concerns (a selective list)
* Removal of the spent fuel
* Integrity of Canisters (Corrosion, seismic, sea level rise, possible terrorist attack)
* Radiation Monitoring (including real time)
* Environmental (e.g., Disposition of the Offshore Conduits)
* Preparedness for first responders
* Jobs
* Cost
 
Preparing for ISFSI-only status: Defense In Depth
* Regular monitoring (and what is learned from monitoring)
* Inspection of canisters
* Test canister
* Dealing with potential worst case scenarios
 
Expect the Unexpected
* At the August 9th CEP Meeting, a safety worker described a loading incident.
* A spent fuel canister got caught on an inner guide ring during lowering.
* Hung unsuspended for about an hour
 
Current Status At
* Transfer of spent fuel has been SONGS          temporarily halted.
* NRC investigation with findings and enforcement actions.
* Public meetings (NRC webinar; SONGS CEP with Scott Morris, Region IV)
* It is anticipated that upon implementation of NRCs and SCEs recommendations, transfer of spent fuel will resume.
* Update letter from Victor, Stetson and Kern on songscommunity.com
 
Community Struggles With: Who To Trust?
* Utility - SCE?
* Government - NRC?
* NGO's - Union of Concerned Scientists?
* Outside Experts?
 
Emerging Issues around Spent Fuel
: 1. What is the Pathway to a Change in Federal Law?
* Is the upcoming session the time to get this done?
* How big is the deal needed?
* Is a change in law essential?
: 2. Is a Permanent Repository needed?
* Political answers to that question
* Groundhog day problem
* Technical answers to that question
: 3. Will Consolidated Interim Storage Work?
* We must learn the lesson of Yucca, Canada, Finland, PFC and others:
the key to success is multiple sites
* Consent is very important
* Consent vs. holdup
* Lots of support for this: BRC, Switch, others
* How long will the NM and TX sites keep moving along?
* When can we begin serious transportation planning?
* Lots of models and institutions to build on
* This is a political and organizational challenge, not technical
: 4. What will ISFSI Defense-in-Depth Look like?
* Industry has clear visions (AMP), but the public knows little about those and most of the key concepts are not explained in English
* Reliance upon non-existent technologies worries many people
* Stress Corrosion Cracking is an ongoing concern
* The expansive definition of retrievable worries many people
* Loss of onsite pools; nonexistent hot cells
* Need more robustness around Russian doll and welding responses
* Failure to get this right will lead to pressure for expensive systems that do not add safety
* Must articulate a vision in plain English that is dynamic and responsive to public concerns
: 5. What is the Right Risk Analysis and Oversight for Fuel Offloading?
* SONGS August 3rd incident has raised serious questions about whether delegation to vendors and assumptions of low risk site footprints are correct
* Calls for more inspection oversight
* Calls for better analysis of safety systemsengineering, personnel, training
* Akin to the airlines
: 6. Can we have a serious, non-classified discussion of worst case outcomes at an ISFSI only site?
* Keen community interest in this topic
* Planning for a 1Q 2019 meeting (highly likely)
* Derailed a bit by the canister incident
* Must identify plausible pathways and responses
* Must include discussion of radiationlevels, safety, impacts
: 7. Can the decommissioned plants get better organized?
* Political organization
* Learning across the industry
* Taking advantage of consolidation in the decom industry}}

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Presentation Slides: NRC SONGS Presentation December 2018, Victor
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Community Engagement In the Decommissioning Process:

Implications for Spent Fuel David G Victor Chairman, Community Engagement Panel NRC REG CON Seminar Rockville, MD December 2018

Community Engagement Panel (CEP)

Who we are: Functions as a Two-Way Conduit

  • 18 Members
  • Public Officials, NGO's, Labor, Business,
  • Provides for SCE to learn about the Environmental, Native American concerns of the Community
  • Quarterly Meetings
  • Workshops
  • Provides for Community to learn
  • Expert Presentations about the impact of the
  • Not a Formal Decision Making Body decommissioning process
  • No Official Oversight Function
  • SCE (plant operator) provides resources for meetings, funded by decom trust fund

Public CEP Meetings

  • Update From Edison With Timeline
  • Expert Presentation
  • Questions and Dialogue with CEP Members
  • Public Comment and Question Period
  • Questions Directed to Expert or SCE
  • Currently trying to revamp public comment and public engagement

Planned Future State A Surprise For Many!

Today Late 2020's

Public Concerns (a selective list)

  • Removal of the spent fuel
  • Integrity of Canisters (Corrosion, seismic, sea level rise, possible terrorist attack)
  • Radiation Monitoring (including real time)
  • Environmental (e.g., Disposition of the Offshore Conduits)
  • Preparedness for first responders
  • Jobs
  • Cost

Preparing for ISFSI-only status: Defense In Depth

  • Regular monitoring (and what is learned from monitoring)
  • Inspection of canisters
  • Test canister
  • Dealing with potential worst case scenarios

Expect the Unexpected

  • At the August 9th CEP Meeting, a safety worker described a loading incident.
  • A spent fuel canister got caught on an inner guide ring during lowering.
  • Hung unsuspended for about an hour

Current Status At

  • Transfer of spent fuel has been SONGS temporarily halted.
  • NRC investigation with findings and enforcement actions.
  • It is anticipated that upon implementation of NRCs and SCEs recommendations, transfer of spent fuel will resume.
  • Update letter from Victor, Stetson and Kern on songscommunity.com

Community Struggles With: Who To Trust?

  • Government - NRC?
  • Outside Experts?

Emerging Issues around Spent Fuel

1. What is the Pathway to a Change in Federal Law?
  • Is the upcoming session the time to get this done?
  • How big is the deal needed?
  • Is a change in law essential?
2. Is a Permanent Repository needed?
  • Political answers to that question
  • Groundhog day problem
  • Technical answers to that question
3. Will Consolidated Interim Storage Work?
  • We must learn the lesson of Yucca, Canada, Finland, PFC and others:

the key to success is multiple sites

  • Consent is very important
  • Consent vs. holdup
  • Lots of support for this: BRC, Switch, others
  • How long will the NM and TX sites keep moving along?
  • When can we begin serious transportation planning?
  • Lots of models and institutions to build on
  • This is a political and organizational challenge, not technical
4. What will ISFSI Defense-in-Depth Look like?
  • Industry has clear visions (AMP), but the public knows little about those and most of the key concepts are not explained in English
  • Reliance upon non-existent technologies worries many people
  • The expansive definition of retrievable worries many people
  • Loss of onsite pools; nonexistent hot cells
  • Need more robustness around Russian doll and welding responses
  • Failure to get this right will lead to pressure for expensive systems that do not add safety
  • Must articulate a vision in plain English that is dynamic and responsive to public concerns
5. What is the Right Risk Analysis and Oversight for Fuel Offloading?
  • SONGS August 3rd incident has raised serious questions about whether delegation to vendors and assumptions of low risk site footprints are correct
  • Calls for more inspection oversight
  • Calls for better analysis of safety systemsengineering, personnel, training
  • Akin to the airlines
6. Can we have a serious, non-classified discussion of worst case outcomes at an ISFSI only site?
  • Keen community interest in this topic
  • Planning for a 1Q 2019 meeting (highly likely)
  • Derailed a bit by the canister incident
  • Must identify plausible pathways and responses
  • Must include discussion of radiationlevels, safety, impacts
7. Can the decommissioned plants get better organized?
  • Political organization
  • Learning across the industry
  • Taking advantage of consolidation in the decom industry