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Transcript of Gw Oprea & Jh Goldberg Testimonies on Technical Qualifications & Tx Public Interest Research Group Addl Contention 31.Corporate Nuclear Organization Chart Encl
ML20009E435
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Site: Allens Creek File:Houston Lighting and Power Company icon.png
Issue date: 07/20/1981
From: Goldberg J, Oprea G
HOUSTON LIGHTING & POWER CO.
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11 Q. Please state your name and position.

12 A. My name is George W. Oprea, Jr. and I am Executive 13 Vice President of Houston Lighting & Power Company (HL&P) .

14 My name is Jerome H. Goldberg, and I am Vice President, 15 Nuclear Engineering and Construction, of HL&P.

16 Q. Mr. Oprea, would you please describe your profes-17 sional experience and educational background.

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Bachelor of Arts and a Bachslor of Science in Electrical Engineering. That same yea:, I joined HL&P in the Distribu-tion Planning Section of the Engineering Department where I participated in computer applications engineering for system l planning. In 1965, I was named superintendent of the l 23 l

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1 responsibility as Project Manager, Energy Control Center. In 2 1970, I was promoted to Manager of the Energy Control and 3 Dispatching Department. I was elected Vice President of 4 Operations in 1971 and Group Vice President of Operations in 5 1973. I assumed my present position as Executive Vice Presi-6 dont and member of the Board of Directors in 1974.

7 I am a Director of the Atomic Industrial Forum, a 8

Director of the American Nuclear Energy Council, a member of 9

the American Nuclear Society and I serve on the EEI Executive 10 Advisory Committee on Nuclear Energy.

I am a registered Professional Engineer in the State 11 of Texas.

12 Q. Mr. Goldberg, would SJu please describe your 13 educational and professional background.

y4 A. I IOCeived a Bachelor of Science degree in Marine l Engineering from the U.S. Merchants Marine Academy in 1953 i

16 and a Master of Science degree in Nuclear Engineering from Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1960.

I joined HL&P as Vice President, Nuclear Engineer-ing and Construction in October 1980 where I hava. responsi-bility for engineering and construction of the South Texas 21 Project (STP) and HL&P's planned Allens Creek facility.

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& Webster, where I began as a nuclear engineer and was l 24 l

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1 promoted to positions of increasing management responsibility 2 up to the position of Vice President and Deputy Dircctor of 3 Construction. During the course of my employment with Stone 4 & Webster, I also served as Project Engineer and Project 5 Manager of the Beaver Valley I Nuclear Project and as Chief 6

Engineer of tne Engineering Mechanics Division.

Prior to joining Stone & Webster, I was employed 7

fr m 1955 to 1971 at the Quincy, Massachusetts ship building 8

g yard in various positions involving engineering, design, construction and fueling of nuclear surface warships and submarines. I became the Nuclear Construction Manager and 11 was responsible for all nuclear construction activities associated with four submarines built at the Quincy facility.

13 I served on active duty in the U.S. Navy from 1953 14 to 1955.

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I an a member of the American Nuclear Society and a 16 registered Professional Engineer in seven states:

17 Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, 18 California, Virginia and Texas.

19 Gentlemen, what is the purpose of your testimony?

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20 A. The purpose of this testimony is tc address TexPirg 21 Additional Contention 31, which alleges that HL&P is not 1

22 technically qualified to construct Allens Creek because of 23 construction problems at the South Texas Project nuclear plant.

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1 Q. Mr. Oprea would you please describe the organization 2 and management structure for overseeing the design and 3 construction of the Allens Creek project.

4 A. The major organizations involved in the Allens 5 Creek project are: Houston Lighting & Power Company, 6 Ebasco Services, Incorporated, and the General Electric 7 Company (GE) .

8 As the applicant, HL&P has and retains the overall 9 responsiblity for the engineering, design, procurement, 10 fabrication, construction, fuel management, pre-operational 11 testing, operation and quality assurance activities for 12 Allens Creek. HL&P audits the activities of Ebasco, GE, 13 consultants and other contractors to assure that their 14 quality assurance programs are implemented.

Ebasco is the architect-engineer and is responsible 15 to HL&P for design and engineering activities. Ebasco will 16 i

17 also perform activities related to procurement, vendor surveillance, and construction management services as 18 l

specified by HL&P.

l 19 The General Electric Company is the vendor for the 20 nuclear steam supply system. G2 performs design and engi-21 neering, Procurement, fabrication, vendor surveillance, and 22 quality assurance associated with the Nuclear Steam Supply 23 1

System (USSS).

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1 To ensure the appropriate top-level corporate 2 management involvement in the HL&P nuclear projects, my 3 efforts as the Executive Vice President are devoted essentially 100% to our nuclear program. I report directly 4

to the President of the Ccmpany. The nuclear responsibili-5 ties under my supervision include engineering, design, 6

procurement, fabrication, construction, fuel management, 7

pre-operational testing, operation and quality assurance.

(See Attachment GWO-1)

Last year we created the new position of Vice President for Nuclear Engineering and Construction, and Mr.

11 Goldberg was hired to fill that position. He is respon-12 sible for all nuclear engineering and construction activi-13 ties, and the Manager for the Allens Creek Prcject reports 14 directly to him. Mr. Goldberg, in turn, reports directly to 15 me.

16 A new position, Vice President Nuclear Plant 17 Operations, has recently been created. This position is 18 held by Mr. Jerrold G. Dewease. Mr. De'.ie a s e , formerly 19 Assistant Director of Nuclear Power with Tennessee Valley Authority, will have direct responsibility for all nuclear 20 21 power plant operations, maintenance and related training.

22 Mr. Dewease reports directly to me. The Plant Superinten-23 dent for Allens Creek will report to Mr. Dewease.

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1 The Manager for Allens Creek is responsibic for 2 the overall management and coordination of project planning, 3 scheduling, cost control, engineering, construction and 4 start-up c! the project. To accomplish this, he is 5 supported by a project management organization.

6 The HL&P quality assurance organization is 7 separate from the nuclear engineering and construction 8 effort, and reports directly to me.

9 The basic HL&P organizational management structure 10 and details of the scope of work and division of responsi-11 bilities can be found in the PSAR in Chapter 13 and Item II.

12 J.3.1 of Appendix 0. Quality assurance responsibilities 13 are described in Chapter 17 of the PSAR and Item I.F.2 of 14 Appendix O. I should note, however, that the PSAR does not 15 reflect the addition of Mr. Dewease to our Staff.

0 Mr. Oprea, would you please describe the techni-16 al resources directed by HL&P.

7 A. HL&P has an inhouse staff of engineers and g

managers to oversee the design and verify conformance with the applicable regulations, codes and other design criteria for the Allens Creek project. Sufficient manpower is maintained to meet current responsibilities of the project.

22 Additionally, in so::.e specific cases, temporary engineering support is assigned from line departments within the 24 a

1 Company, or consultants are contracted to work under the' 2 direction of HL&P personnel. In this regard we have an 3 extensive corporate manpower pool to d.aw upon when 4 necessary. We have approximately 250 employees in various 5

disciplines including management, nuclear, civil 6

and mechanical engineering, health physics and nuclear fuels.

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the project activities that are planned or underway. A planned HL&P project manpower schedule for Allens Creek is 9

shown on page 0-183 of the PSAR.

Q. Mr. Goldberg, does EL&P maintain any technical q training program?

A. Yes. In addition to hiring experienced individuals 13 into the Company, HL&P maintains an active technical train-14 ing program. All professionals have the opportunity and 15 are expected to attend outside develcpmental courses or 16 seminars each year. The line departments are responsible 17 for training and hold technical workshops direct 2d by in-18 house experts, Ebasco, GE and other vendor parsonnel.

19 Typical workshops include studies of codes, components, 20 BWR operation and design, quality assurance and procedural 21 requirements.

22 The Health Physics Division has established a 23 radiation training group, which is developing a number of 24

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1 courses to teach HL&P personnel and contractors radiation 2 protection, including the full range of technician train-3 ing, general employee training, and operator training.

4 Q. Mr. Goldberg have you provided for the feedback 5 of operating, design and construction experience into the 6 Allens Creek project?

7 A. Yes. HL&P has developed an administrative procedure 8 for the evaluation of operating, design and construction 9 experience to assure that applicable industry experience is 10 considered in the design of the Allens Creek project.

11 Inf rmation from outside HL&P is directed to the Nuclear .

Licensing Department, which is responsible for distributing 12 the information for those experiences which are of interest 13 to Allens Creek. The Licensing Department categorizes 4

these experiences and directs the information to the appropriate organization within HL&P for review and uee. >

Experiences from within HL&P are also directed to the ccgnizant Allens Creek Project organizations. This feedback program is described in further detail in Amendment 59 to 19 .

the Allens Creek PSAR, Appendix O, in Item I.C.5.

20 Q. Mr. Goldberg, would you please describe the 21 interaction between HL&P and its contractors for the design 22 and construction of the Allens creek project?

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r 1 the Allens Creek project team. The team will follow 2 documented procedures for each phase of the coordination 3 process. HL&P oversight of contractor design activities is 4 facilitated by the issuance of several status and performance S

reports which are directed to various levels of managment.

In addition, copies of correspondence among contractors are 6

sent to HL&P for information, 7

HL&P monitors and evaluates Ebasco performance by g

g requiring Ebasco to obtain HL&P approval of the basic design criteria and selected design documents. In addition, HL&P purchases all engineered equipment based on Ebasco-generated and HL&P-approved specifications.

12 GE has the responsibility to provide the NSSS design.

13 For those activities within GE's scope, HL&P monitors and 14 evaluates GE performance by review of GE prepared system 15 descriptirns and other selected design documents.

e Ebasco 16 also reviews these documents to ensure interface coordination 17 between the NSSS and balance of plant.

^8 The HL&P Project Construction Manager and his 19 staff are responsible for construction overview of contractor 20 performance. They monitor construction activities, approve l

21 schedules, field procurement, requisitioning and selected in-22 voices. They impose other financial controls; assure 23 compliance with permit and license requirements; assure V

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1 procedure compliance; assure coordination of Ebasco field 2 engineering with Ebasco home office engineering staff; and 3 coordinate contractor turnover of plant systems to nuclear 4 operations.

5 Q. Mr. Oprea, would you please describe the executive 6 management overv.ew and involvement in the Allens Creek 7 project.

8 A. I am the senior corporate officer in charge of 9 HL&P's nuclear program. I keep Mr. Jordan, the President of 10 the Company, informed on all our nuclear activities, including Allens Creek. I regularly recort to the Company's Board of 11 Directors on our nuclear projects. As Executive Vice 12 President, I exercise executive management overview through 13 74 regularly scheduled meetings and through written and verbal reports from the scaff that is involved in our nuclear 5

projects. I also get involved in decisions on significant matters that involve our nuclear projects, and I am called 7

upon to set policy for future activities.

As Vice President for Nuclear Engineering and Construction, Mr. Goldberg authorizes all NRC licensing 20 submittals, establishes the nuclear engineering and con-21 struction organizational structure and division of respon-22 sibilities therein, approves the filling of each staff 23 position within the approved staffing compliment, and 24 l

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  • 1 participates in decisions involving engineering and 2 construction activities. He holds periodic management 3 review meetings on Allens Creek in which Ebasco and GE 4 management representatives participate, thus enabling the C

5 management of all three companies to be regularly informed 6

of the project status, management and technical issues and 7

plans for the future.

The Allens Creek project organization provides 8

m nthly status reports to the Vice President for Nuclear 9

10 Engineering and Construction, to other HL&P executives and to the principal contractor project managers. These repo,rts identify project progress, problem areas, and planned 2

activity over the next reporting period.

Q. Mr. Oprea, would you please summarize the quality assurance program for the Allens Creek project?

A. The Allens Creek QA program is structured to 16 ensure that HL&P has the ultimate responsibility for quality 17 assurance. HL&P retains overall responsibility for the 18 engineering, design, procurement, fabrication, construction, 19 pre-operational testing, operation and QA activities for 20 Allens Creek. HL&P audits the activities of Ebasco, GE, 21 consultants and other contractors to assure that their QA 22 programs are adequate.

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1 for performing the work to be verified. I have overall 2 responsibility for the HL&P QA program and organization. The 3 QA organization is completely separate from the organizations 4 responsible for engineering, construction, and operation of 5 Allens Creek. The QA organization and personnel are pro-6 hibited from performing design and construction work. The 7 same holds true for Ebasco, where the QA program is independent 8 of the construction and engineering organizations and QA 9 personnel have no responsibility for performing the work 10 which they must verify.

11 The QA program is based upon written procedures 12 within HL&P, Ebasco, and GE. These written procedures cover 13 every phase of design, procurement, installation, and construc-14 tion of the project. Comprehensive verification, auditing, 15 surveillance and inspection of HL&P and supplier activities 16 are conducted by QA personnel to ensure that procedures and 17 requirements are properly followed and correctly documented.

18 The QA program operates to ensure that management 19 responsible for design and construction is fully informed of deficiences revealed by QA. Project procedures provide for gg n tifying responsible individuals of nonconforming items and 21 ensuring inv lvement of QA personnel in documenting satisfac-22 tory completion of corrective actions. In addition, trend 3

analyses will be routinely performed to identify generic 1 problems which may develop, and management is informed of 2 the results.

3 The QA program will be adequately staffed by using 4

the project schedule to ensure that personnel are available and qualified to perform QA activities as they occur during 5

ns ru n, and to identify activities requiring special 6

expertise as far in advance as possible. Staffing projections 7

are periodically reviewed and revised as necessary. A train-ing program ensures that QA personnel are properly qualified and certified to perform assigned QA duties.

10 Q. Mr. Oprea, does HL&P emphasize quality to HL&P 11 personnel and contractor personnel working on the Allens Creek 12 project?

13 A. Yes. HL&P management supports and emphasizes quality 14 in all aspects of the Allens Creek project. Indeed, we impress 15 upon the construction organization that it has the principal 16 responsibility for doing quality work in this first instance.

17 In addition, HL&P's Quality Assurance organization is 18 responsible for indoctrinating personnel who have quality-19 related functione to impress upon them the necessity for 20 work to be performed in accordance with specifications, 21 codes, standards and regulato"y requirements.

22 Q. Mr. Oprea, are there sections in the PSAR where 23 these organizational and quality assurance matters are set out 24 i

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2 A. Yes. Chapter 13 of the PSAR describes the Organiza-3 tional Structure of the Applicant; Chapter 17 describes Quality 4 Assurance; and Appendix 0, which responds to NUREG-0718 5 (Licensing Requirements for Pending Applications for Construc-6 tion Permits and Manufacturing License), contalas several 7 relevant items--I.F.2, Develop More Detailed QA Criteria 8 (p. 0-138); I.C.5, Procedures for Feedback of Operating, Design 9 and Construction Experience (p. 0-127); and II.J.3.1, Organiza-10 tion and Staffing to Oversee Design and Construction (p. 0-170) 11 Q. Mr. Goldberg,.TexPirg AC Contention 31a alleges that HL&P is not technically qualified to design and construct 12 Allens Creek because HL&P has never designed an operating 13 nuclear power plant with a record of safe operation. Would you 14g please respond to this contention?

15 A. It is true that HL&P has never designed a nuclear i plant. However, that is not relevant in considering

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19 have extensive experience in designing nuclear plants, and many of those plants- are now operating. As is the case with most utilities, HL&P does not plan to design its

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1 3 HI.&P is not technically qualified to design and construct 4 Allens Creek because:

5 In 1978, an internal study by the Applicant stated that HL&P had underestimated the amount of steel required f r HL&P's South Texas Project by 122%, concrete by 6

63%, rebar by 125%, piping by 88%, wire and cables by 100%, terminations by 71%, cable trays by 116%, and 7 conduit by 49%, at the time of application to build the South Texas Project in 1973. The report concluded that 8 this underestimation was partially due to " development from the conceptual stage" which had occurred since the 9 construction license proceedings there. This may indicate technical deficiencies in the Applicant's 10 power plant construction planning.

11 Would you please respond to this contention?

12 A. The AE's 1973 estimate for STP was an early 13 conceptual estimate based on plants that had been engineered 14 and completed during the 1960's and/or engineered in the 15 1960's and were scheduled to be completed in the 1970's.

1G This estimating process did not account for the rapid 17 expansion in regulatory requirements which began in 1973.

M re ver, the A/E underestimated the duration of construction.

18 In ntrast, the design of the Allens Creek project is not 19 n eptual, the actual design is about 65% complete. The 20 material and cost estimates are, therefore, much firmer.

Moreover, the construction schedule on Allens Creek, which has been stretched for financial reasons, is unquestionably l 23 l an achievable schedule.

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1 Q. TexPirg Contention 31c alleges that HL&P is not 2 technically qualified to design and construct Allens Creek 3 because:

4 NRC inspections indicate that the Applicant deviated in at least three instances from the PSAR submitted for its 5 South Texas Project, all of which related to quality assurance, and this raises questions regarding the 6 Applicant's ability to meet commitments in its ACNGS PSAR.

7 In an interrogatory answer dated November 19, 1979, 8

TexPirg indicated that the three deviations related to: (1) 9 PSAR paragraph 17.15A; (2) PSAR paragraph 3.8.1.2.1; and (3) 10 an unspecified PSAR section dealing with audit design reviews.

11 Mr. Goldberg, would you please comment on this contention?

12 A. As to the first allegation, it should be noted that 13 there is no paragraph "17.15A" in the PSAR. This designation, 14 however, was used by the NRC in I&E Report 79-08 (June 4, 1979) 15 as a reference to PSAR paragraph 17.1.5A and I have assumed 16 that the interrogatory answer referred to this I&E Report.

17 This report did not question the adequacy of our construction 18 or QA activities. The question here concerned the extent 19 to which certain monitoring activities needed to be 20 described in a subcontractor's procedures. The procedures 21 in effect required Pittsburg-Des Moines Steel Company's 22 QA department to monitor certain welding operations and to 23 document the monitoring on a Fabrication Check List. The 24 NRC believed that the procedure should have been more explicit 1 in describing the monitoring program. Although HL&P 2 thought the procedure then in effect satisfied the PSAR 3 requirement, we resolved the problem by issuing a new 4 procedure.

As to the second allegation, paragraph 3.8.1.2.1 of 5

the PSAR made certain requirements of the ACI-ASME's " Proposed 6

7 Standard Code for Concrete Reactor Vessels and Containments" applicable to STP. During an early phase of the project, the 8

NRC observed a concrete pour in which a QC inspector trainee g

was participating in the inspection with other inspectors.

The use of a trainee in this situation was not allowed by the ACI-ASME Code and, thus, the NRC cited us for a " deviation" in 12 I&E Report 77-06 (May 17, 1977). Once the situation was 13 identified, our A/E agreed not to use trainees as inspectors, 14 but rather to have them attend future placements for 15 observation purposes only.

16 The issue concerning the activities of the Design 17 Review Committee was raised in I&E Report 77-12 (December 9, 18 1977) and represented a question of interpretation concerning 19 PSAR paragraph 17.1.lA.3.1.1. We simply amended the PSAR 0 to clear up the question of interpretation.

I 21 HL&P acted promptly to correct these situations as 22 they occurred and took recurrence control measures as 23 appropriate. There is no indication that HL&P made commit-24

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1 ments in the PSAR which it ignored or sought to avoid. The 2 instances of error in applying or interpreting procedures 3 were made in good faith and do not reflect adversely on 4 HL&P's technical competence.

5 0 TexPirg Contention 31d alleges that HL&P is not 6

technically qualified to design and construct Allens Creek because:

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'g HL&P has reported to the NRC that it failed to meet a commitment that a gantry crane et the South Texas Project meets tornado stress levels due to providing 9 inadequate bid specifications to contractors, and this directly relates to the technical performance of 10 the Applicant in this docket.

11 Mr. Goldberg, would you please respond to this contention?

12 A. .This contention is correct insofar as it states that 13 HL&P reported to the NRC that the effects of tornado wir.d 14 loadings were not properly included for the essentiio coling 15 water gantry cranes. The discrepancy was caused by a 'c ture 16 on the part of the AE and was not a systematic problem .nat would reflect on HL&P's technical competence. On the contrary, 17 18 up n discovery of the discrepancy it was reported promptly to 19 NRC and corrective actions were taken.

In my pini n, the capability to find, report, and 20 rrect discrepancies is an attribute of technical competence.

21 Q. TexPirg Contention 31e alleges that HL&P is not technically qualified to design and construct Allens Creek because:

24 1 In a 1977 NRC inspection report at HL&P's South Texas Project (Rpt. #50-490-08), HL&P was informed six of 2 the ten quality control inspectors stated that they had experienced harassment (including an individua.1 3

report of a death threat), and despite this notice, at least four other instances of quality control 4

inspector-reported harassment were noted in later NRC inspections; and on August 22, 1978 NRC report states that QC inspectors at South Texas Project agreed 5

"in majority" that they were not receiving adequate technical assistance from Project Quality Assurance 6 Licensee personnel.

7 Mr. Oprea, would you please respond to this contention?

8 A. It is important to point out that the 1977 inspec-9 tion report clearly stated that the NRC had not found any 10 programmatic harassment or intimidation of QC inspectors. The 11 two incidents of harassment cited therein were shown to be 12 the result of friction between the Brown & Root QC inspectors 13 and Brown & Root construction personnel. The report notes 14 that as a result of such friction the QC inspectors actually 15 became more strict in their inspections.

The allegation regarding " technical support" cited 16 in the Augus 22, 1978 report (I&E 78-12) was not substantiated 77 g

by the NRC investigation and no items of non-compliance or deviations were cited by the NRC. Since the QC inspector's job g

is not an engineering or design function, it does not require

" technical support" in any meaningful sense. Thus, we do not regard the allegation as valid.

22 Q. Were there other allegations of harassments investi-23 gated by the NRC?

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1 A. Yes. For example, there were allegations of 2 harassmen" in the NRC's Notice of Violation on April 30, 1980 3

and che associated Investigation Report No. 79-19. In answer to the Notice of Violation, HL&P stated it had no way to 4

verify the NRC's allegations because the NRC did not disclose 5

the identity of the persons involved nor the places and dates 6

of such incidents. Nonetheless, HL&P took steps to eliminate 7

any problems. For example, the A/E revised its QC salary administration; upgraded the QC supervisory positions: empha-sized that project procedures, specifications and drawings were to be rigorously followed; required management personnel to 11 make more frequent visits to the site; reemphasized its "open 12 door" policy to top corporate management; made more efficient 13 the communication chain between site QC personnel and top QA 14 management; emphasized the role of QC supervision; initiated 15 "QA Bulletins" to provide better understanding of overall 16 activities within the QA departments; instituted regular refresher training of A/E construction and QA/QC personnel 18 in project procedures; and increased the size of the QA/QC 19 staff.

20 The NRC has issued a followup report (I&E 80-25) and 21 found that the problem had been corrected, that no recurrent 22 trends were evident, and that the matter was considered closed.

23 In sum, we do not think these matters have any bearing on a 24 plant that i:. to be constructed by Ebasco, but if we ever e

2 1 encourter the problem again we know how to take steps to 2 correct it.

3 Q. TexPirg Contention 31f alleges that HL&P is not 4

technically qualified to design and construct the Allens Creek pr je t because:

5 On September 15, 1978, the NRC reported an investigation 6 of an incident in which a quality control inspector alleged that HL&P's contractor at the South Texas Project 7 fired him for strict inspection behavior, while the contractor's employee alleged a conversation with the 8 quality control inspector in which the inspector allegedly solicited a bribe and supposedly stated that HL&P would 9 " stay out" of any qua ity control let-downs; and though intervenor does not know what in fact occurred 10 in this incident, the matter is sufficiently serious to form the basis for the consideration of this contention 11 in this docket; 12 Mr. Oprea, would you please respond to this contention?

13 A. This appears to be a reference to a series of events 14 that led to the A/E firing a QC inspector in August, 1978.

15 The management of the A/E was faced with a difficult problem in this situation. A trusted, long-term construction employee 16 77 alleged that the QC inspector solicited a bribe in return for the QC inspector's " going easy" on the construction man's 18 concrete pourr, The construction man was cooperative in the g

investigation and gave a sworn statement about the event.

While the QC inspector denied the allegation, he refused to give a sworn statement and was generally evasive in answering questions. Given this situation, the A/E decided that they had to release the QC inspector. HL&P was not involved in 24

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1 the decision, but was kept informed of the progress of the 2 investigation, and the results thereof. HL&P concurred with 3 the A/E's decision in this matter.

4 In my opinion, this has no bearing on the technical qualifi ati ns of HL&P for the Allens Creek project.

5 Q. TexPirg Contention 31g alleges that HL&P is not technically qualified to design and construct Allens Creek because:

8 HL&P is the Project Manager of South Texas Project and 9 is ultin.ately responsible to the NRC for the 24 items of non-compliance reported in inspections there so far, 10 and for the numerous construction problems such as building the mechanical auxillary building one foot too 11 narrow and installing under-strength bolts, and that such performance as project manager there raises 12 questions as to tne technical qualifications of Applicant.

13 TexPirg's answers to HL&P's Fourth Set of Inter-14 rogatories state that the "24 items of non-compliance" were 15 listed in an exhibit in HL&P's rate case in PUC Docket No.

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17 Mr. Cprea, w uld y u please respond to this contention?

A. Although systems are designed, procudures are 8

written and personnel are trained with the goal of having no g

items of non-compliance, we must use people to build these plants and people make mistakes. I am not aware of any plant which has bean built with no items of non-compliance resulting 22 from NRC inspections. As the items are identified, corrective 23 actions are taken and recurrence control is addressed as 24

1 appropriate. As to the items identified in the exhibit in 2 the rate case, the NRC has determined that HL&P's resolution 3 , of these items was satisfactory and has closed out these items.

4 Items of non-compliance generally evidence the 5

failure of specific individuals to understand or follow pro-cedures and, thus, are not at all indicative of technical 6

competence. The ote foot short building at STD, for example, 7

g resulted from a survey error by an A/E survey crew working in the field. Errors of this sort are not a reflection on the g

technical corupetence of HL&P and could not be prevented unless HL&P attempted to duplicate ever function of the architect-engineer / constructor.

12 Wherever an Atem of non-compliance has indicated a 13 shortcoming in the management systems used on the project, 14 such as a failure to trend non-conformances, we have attempted 15 to strengthen the system. The lessons learned in this process 16 are being used in designing the management systems for ACNGS 17 in order to minimize such occurrences.

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19 referred to in the contention have a bearing on HL&P's 20 technical competence to design and construct Allens Creek?

21 A. Yes, but it is not a negative influence. First of 22 all, we do not regard these reports as especially unique. All 23 nuclear plants have a variety of such reports during the 24 period of construction. What is significant is the ability

1 to make corrections, to learn from the experience, and to 2 minimize future occurrences.

3 In regard to HL&P, the STP experience has been a 4 positive contribution to our technical competence. We have 5

become aware of the need for strong management involvement in 6

our nuclear projects and have taken steps to accomplish this.

In my opinion, the measures discussed in this testimony 7

regarding management for design and construction and the 8

qua y assuran e p gram, and detailed in Chapters 13 and 9

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i Q. Mr. Goldberg, would you please describe the technical 12 competence of the General Electric Company to design a nuclear 13 steam supply system for the Allens Creek project?

14 A. The General Electric Company is one of the major l 15 designers and fabricators in this country of nuclear reactors 16 and nuclear fuel. It has been in the nuclear business since 17 1955 and presently has over 80 reactors either complete, under 18 Twenty-four of these reactors are construction, or on order.

BWR/6 design with Mark III Containments. Of these twenty-20 four, Grand Gulf 1 & 2, River Bend 1 & 2, Perry 1 & 2, 21 Hartsville A-1, A-2, B-1, B-2, Phipps Bend 1 & 2, Clinton 1 &

22 2, Skagit 1 & 2, and Black Fox 1 & 2 are being and/or are 23 schedule to be constructed domestically. Each of these has 24 also received or is pursuing a construction permit based on t

I J 1 the same basic design Allens Creek utilizes.

of the domestic BWR/6's Grand Gulf 1 is expected to 2

3 startup early 1982, Clinton 1 and Perry 1 in 1983 and River Bend in 1984. Also, the Kuo Sheng 1 reactor, a BWR/6 Mark 4

III in Taiwan, is in the startup phase and has commercially 5

produced electricity at 35% of full power.

6 GE has extensive research and development facilities 7

which are used in the design of the BWR. These facilities are both full scale and scaled down models and cover such 9

topics as core thermal hydraulics, mechanical testing of BWR 10 material, performance characteristics of various BWR components ,

11 blowdown loads on containment, and servicing and maintenance of 12 the BWR. Thus, GE has extensive experience, knowledge and 13 capability to design and fabricate the BWR.

14 Q. Mr. Goldberg, would you please describe the technical 15 qualifications of Ebasco to serve as the architect engineer 16 for the Allens Creek plant?

17 A. Ebasco is responsible for design engineering, 18 construction, equipment procurement and startup of the 19 balance of plant facilities. This includes all plant structures ,

20 systems and components other than those provided by the NSSS 21 supplier. Ebasco has provided engineering, construction and 22 consulting services to utilities in the United States and 23 throughout the world for 70 years. In the past 18 years, 24 Ebasco has been the architect-engineer (AE) on 25 nuclear j

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r 1 projects; fourteen of which are General Electric BWR's. Of 2 these fourteen plants 12 are operating successfully. Cur-3 rently, Ebasco maintains a permanent force of approximately 4 4,000 personnel to carry out services related to power 5 generation, transmission and distribution. Approximately 6

1000 of these employees are specifically identified with nuclear activities. Thus, Ebasco Services has substantial 7

g experience in the design and construction of BWR nuclear plants.

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