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Official Transcript of Proceedings NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
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Draft EIS: James A. Fitzpatrick Nuclear Power Plant: Afternoon Session Docket Number: 50-333 Location: Oswego, New York Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Work Order No.: NRC-1696 Pages 1-23 NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC.
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1 1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 2 + + + + +
3 NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 4 + + + + +
5 OFFICE OF NUCLEAR REACTOR REGULATION (NRR) 6 + + + + +
7 PUBLIC MEETING 8 TO DISCUSS THE 9 DRAFT SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT 10 FOR THE LICENSE RENEWAL OF 11 JAMES A. FITZPATRICK NUCLEAR POWER PLANT 12 + + + + +
13 1:30 P.M. SESSION WEDNESDAY, 14 AUGUST 1, 2007 15 + + + + +
16 SCRIBA TOWN HALL 17 42 CREAMERY ROAD 18 OSWEGO, NEW YORK 13126 19 + + + + +
20 21 NRC STAFF PRESENT:
22 RANI L. FRANOVICH, NRR/ADRO/DLR/REB 23 JESSIE M. MUIR, NRR/ADRO/DLR/REB 24 25 NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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2 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 MS. FRANOVICH: Welcome, everyone. Can 3 everyone hear me? Okay; good. I just want to take a 4 few minutes to welcome you all to our public meeting.
5 The meeting is to solicit comments on the 6 Draft Environmental Impact Statement for FitzPatrick.
7 I am Rani Franovich. I am the branch 8 chief of the Environmental Branch in headquarters of 9 the NRC, that manages the environmental reviews for 10 license renewal.
11 This is an important part of our 12 environmental review process.
13 NEPA, the National Environmental Policy 14 Act, mandates that we include the public in our 15 environmental review process, and so soliciting 16 comments on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement 17 is something that we get a lot of good information 18 from. So thank you all for being here.
19 We're going to have a brief presentation.
20 Jessie Muir, who is the project manager 21 for the environmental review, is going to give a brief 22 15 minute presentation, to talk with you about our 23 preliminary determinations for the environmental 24 review, and then we will go into a brief question-and-25 answer period, if there are any questions that members NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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3 1 of the public have.
2 And after that, we will go right into 3 selecting people to come up and offer their comments 4 to us. The comments will be transcribed. We have 5 Peter sitting over here. He's going to record the 6 entire meeting. So I would ask that each of you come 7 up to the microphone to make your comments, state your 8 name and affiliation, if any. One person speaks at a 9 time, so that we can get a clean transcript, and if 10 you could all take a few minutes to make sure your 11 cell phones are off, so we don't have any disruptions 12 during the meeting, that'd be great.
13 And with that, I will invite Jessie to 14 come on up and make her brief presentation.
15 Jessie.
16 MS. MUIR: Thank you, again, all, for 17 taking the time to come to this meeting. I hope the 18 information that we provide you will help you to 19 understand the process we're going through, what we've 20 done so far, and the role you can play in helping us 21 make sure that the final EIS is accurate.
22 I'd like to start off by briefly going 23 over the agenda and the purposes of today's meeting.
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4 1 the impacts associated with renewing the operating 2 license for FitzPatrick.
3 Then we'll give you some information about 4 the schedule for the remainder of our review, and how 5 you can submit comments in the future.
6 And then finally, really, the most 7 important part of tonight's meeting, like Rani said, 8 is we'll receive any comments that you may have. Next 9 slide.
10 The Atomic Energy Act gives the NRC the 11 authority to issue operating licenses to commercial 12 nuclear power plants for a period of up to 40 years.
13 For FitzPatrick, that license will expire 14 in 2014. Our regulations make provisions for 15 extending plant operation for an additional 20 years.
16 FitzPatrick Nuclear Power Plant, owned and operated by 17 Entergy, has requested license renewal.
18 As part of the NRC's review of that 19 license renewal application, we perform an 20 environmental review to look at the impacts of an 21 additional 20 years of operation on the environment.
22 We held a meeting here, in October of 23 2006, to seek your input regarding the issues we 24 needed to evaluate. Now we are here to present the 25 preliminary results in the draft supplemental EIS, and NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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5 1 afterwards, we'll open the floor for comments on the 2 draft document. Next slide.
3 Now this slide illustrates the 4 environmental review process. This review, which is 5 the subject of today's meeting, evaluates the impacts 6 of license renewal. It involves scoping activities 7 and the development of a document called the 8 Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement, or an 9 EIS.
10 The Draft Supplemental EIS provides the 11 staff's preliminary assessment of environmental 12 impacts during the period of extended operation. The 13 Draft Supplemental EIS for FitzPatrick was published 14 for comment in June. Next slide.
15 Next, I would like to give some 16 information on the statute that governs the 17 environmental review, and that statute is the National 18 Environmental Policy Act of 1969, commonly referred to 19 as NEPA.
20 NEPA requires that all federal agencies 21 follow a systematic approach in evaluating potential 22 environmental impacts associated with certain actions.
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6 1 impacts.
2 We are also required to consider 3 alternatives to the proposed action.
4 The NRC has determined that an EIS will be 5 prepared for any proposed license renewal of a nuclear 6 plant. NEPA and our EIS are disclosure tools.
7 They're specifically structured to involve public 8 participation and obtain public comment.
9 This meeting facilitates the public 10 participation in our environmental review.
11 In the 1990's, the NRC staff developed a 12 Generic EIS that addresses a number of issues common 13 to all nuclear power plants. As a result of that 14 analysis, the NRC was able to determine that a number 15 of environmental issues were common to or similar for 16 all nuclear power plants.
17 The staff is supplementing that Generic 18 EIS with a site-specific EIS that addresses issues 19 specific to the FitzPatrick facility.
20 Together, the Generic EIS and the 21 supplemental EIS form the staff's analysis of the 22 environmental impacts of license renewal for the 23 FitzPatrick site.
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7 1 information that might call into question the 2 conclusions we reached previously in the Generic EIS.
3 In addition, the staff searches for new issues not 4 already addressed in the Generic EIS. Next slide.
5 This slide is our decision standard for 6 the environmental review, and simply put, is license 7 renewal acceptable from an environmental standpoint?
8 Next slide.
9 Now we use information we received in the 10 environmental report that was submitted as part of 11 Entergy's license renewal application. We also 12 conducted an audit in December of last year, where we 13 toured the facility, we observed plant systems, and 14 evaluated the interaction of the plant operations with 15 the environment.
16 We talked to plant personnel and reviewed 17 specific documentation. We also spoke to federal, 18 state, and local officials, permitting authorities and 19 social services. We also consider the comments 20 received during the public scoping period.
21 All of this information forms the basis of 22 our preliminary conclusions presented in the Draft 23 Supplemental EIS. Next slide.
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8 1 and it includes various disciplines.
2 Now in the mid 1990's, the NRC evaluated 3 the impacts of all operating nuclear power plants 4 across the U.S. The NRC looked at 92 separate impact 5 areas, and found that for 69 of those areas, the 6 impacts were the same for all plants with similar 7 features. The NRC called these Category 1 issues and 8 they were able to make the generic conclusion, that 9 all of the impacts on the environment would be small.
10 The NRC published that Generic EIS in 11 1996.
12 The NRC was unable to make similar 13 determinations for the remaining 23 issues, and as a 14 consequence, NRC decided that we would prepare a 15 supplemental EIS for each plant, to address the 16 remaining 23 issues, and this slide lists some of the 17 major impact areas addressed for FitzPatrick.
18 This slide outlines how impacts are 19 quantified. The Generic EIS defined three impact 20 levels--small, moderate and large. And I'm going to 21 use the fishery in Lake Ontario to illustrate how we 22 use these three terms.
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9 1 in relation to the total population in Lake Ontario, 2 then the impact would be small.
3 If losses cause the population to decline, 4 but then stabilize at a lower level, the impact would 5 be moderate.
6 If losses at the intake cause the fish 7 population to decline to the point where it cannot be 8 stabilized, or it continually declines, then the 9 impact would be large.
10 Now the first set of issues I'm going to 11 talk about relate to the cooling system. There are 12 three Category 2 issues relevant to the cooling 13 system. These are entrainment, impingement and heat 14 shock.
15 Entrainment refers to the process where 16 very small aquatic organisms are pulled into the 17 cooling system. The majority of these organisms 18 experience mortality due to physical, chemical, or 19 thermal impacts.
20 Impingement refers to larger organisms 21 being pulled into the cooling system and getting 22 pinned on the debris screen. Impinged organisms 23 generally experience a lower mortality rate than 24 entrainment.
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10 1 related to the cooling system, refers to when 2 relatively warm water is released into a colder 3 environment. Aquatic organisms adapted to the cooler 4 water can lose equilibrium, or die, when exposed to 5 warmer water. The team evaluated these three impact 6 areas and our preliminary conclusion is that the 7 FitzPatrick cooling system could have a small impact 8 on the fishery in Lake Ontario. Next slide.
9 Radiological impacts are a Category 1 10 issue. This means the NRC has made a generic 11 determination that the impact of radiological releases 12 from normal nuclear plant operations during the period 13 of extended operation is small.
14 By design, the operation of nuclear power 15 plants is expected to result in small releases of 16 radiological effluents. FitzPatrick is no exception.
17 During our site audit, we looked at 18 selected parts of the radioactive effluent release and 19 radiological environmental monitoring programs, and 20 supporting documentation.
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11 1 radiological releases in compliance with the 2 regulations for radioactive effluents.
3 We also looked at the applicant's data 4 from on-site and near-site environmental radiological 5 monitoring station locations for airborne releases and 6 direct radiation, as well as monitoring stations 7 beyond the plant site where water, milk, fish, and 8 food products are sampled.
9 Based on our review of the data, we found 10 that the calculated dose to the maximally-exposed 11 member of the public to be well within the NRC's 12 radiation protection limit.
13 The dose of the maximally-exposed person 14 is a conservative calculation which assumes maximum 15 values associated with an individual who is exposed 16 from all radiation sources from the plant.
17 Since releases from the plant are not 18 expected to increase on a year to year basis during 19 the period of extended operation, and since we also 20 found no new and significant information related to 21 this issue, we preliminarily adopted the generic 22 conclusion that the radiological impact on human 23 health and the environment is small. Next slide.
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12 1 potential to occur in the vicinity of FitzPatrick or 2 its transmission lines; however, there are five 3 terrestrial species. So we prepared a detailed 4 biological assessment to analyze the effects of 5 continued operation of FitzPatrick on these listed 6 terrestrial species.
7 The staff's preliminary determination is 8 that the impacts during the period of extended 9 operation, on threatened or endangered species, would 10 be small.
11 There are two classes of accidents 12 evaluated in the Generic EIS, design-basis accidents 13 and severe accidents. Design-basis accidents are 14 those accidents that the plant is designed to 15 withstand without risk to the public. The ability of 16 the plant to withstand these accidents has to be 17 demonstrated before the plant is granted a license.
18 Because the licensee has to demonstrate 19 acceptable plant performance for the design-basis 20 accidents through the life of the plant, the 21 Commission found in the Generic EIS, that the 22 environmental impacts of design-basis accidents is 23 small for all plants.
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13 1 severe than design-basis accidents because they would 2 result in substantial damage to the reactor core.
3 The Commission found, in the Generic EIS, 4 that the risk of a severe accident is small for all 5 plants. Nevertheless, the Commission determined that 6 alternatives to mitigate severe accidents must be 7 considered for all plants that have not done so.
8 These are called SAMAs, Severe Accident Mitigation 9 Alternatives.
10 The SAMA evaluation is a Category 2 issue 11 and thus requires a site-specific analysis.
12 The purpose of the SAMA evaluation is to 13 ensure that plant changes with the potential for 14 changing severe accident safety performance are 15 identified and evaluated. Next slide.
16 The scope of potential plant improvements 17 considered included hardware modifications, procedural 18 changes, training program improvements, and basically 19 a full spectrum of potential changes. The scope 20 includes SAMAs that would prevent core damage as well 21 as SAMAs that would improve containment performance, 22 if a core damage event occurs.
23 The preliminary results of the FitzPatrick 24 SAMA evaluation are summarized on this slide.
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14 1 were identified for FitzPatrick. That number was 2 reduced to 63, based on a multi-step screening 3 process. Then a more detailed assessment of the risk 4 reduction potential, and implementation cost, were 5 performed for each of the 63 SAMAs.
6 Six SAMAs were identified as potentially 7 cost-beneficial. None of the potentially cost-8 beneficial SAMAs, however, are related to the managing 9 of effects of plant aging during the period of 10 extended operation. Accordingly, they are not required 11 to be implemented as part of license renewal.
12 13 Regardless, Entergy is encouraged to consider, and 14 evaluate further, the potentially cost-beneficial 15 SAMAs. In fact, Entergy has indicated that one SAMA 16 has already been implemented, one is scheduled for the 17 end of this year, and the other four have been 18 combined into a single project undergoing an in-house 19 review. Next slide.
20 Cumulative impacts are the impacts of the 21 proposed action, again, in this case license renewal, 22 taken together with other past, present, or reasonably 23 foreseeable future actions, regardless of what agency 24 or person undertakes those actions.
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15 1 the period of extended operation, and our preliminary 2 determination is that any cumulative impacts resulting 3 from continued operation of FitzPatrick would be small 4 for all resources.
5 Now as part of the environmental review 6 process, we also evaluated a number of alternatives to 7 license renewal. Specifically, we looked at the 8 impacts of replacing FitzPatrick power, approximately 9 880 megawatts, with power from other sources.
10 Alternatives that the team looked at 11 included a "no-action" alternative, that is, not 12 renewing the license. We also looked at replacing 13 FitzPatrick generation with generation from new power 14 plants, either coal, natural gas, or new nuclear. We 15 considered the impacts and capabilities of providing 16 replacement power with purchased power. We also looked 17 at other technologies such as wood, wind, and solar 18 power. Then we looked at a combination of 19 alternatives, including conservation, to replace that 20 capacity.
21 For each alternative, we looked at the 22 same type of issues that we did when we were 23 evaluating the environmental impacts of license 24 renewal.
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16 1 the environmental impacts of selected alternatives 2 would reach moderate to large significance in at least 3 some of the categories evaluated. Next slide.
4 During the environmental review, we found 5 no information that was both new and significant.
6 Therefore, we have preliminarily adopted the Generic 7 EIS conclusion that impacts associated with the 69 8 issues will continue to be small.
9 In the FitzPatrick supplemental EIS, we 10 analyzed the remaining 23 Category 2 issues, and 11 determined that the environmental impact resulting 12 from these issues was also small in all categories.
13 During our analysis, we found that the 14 environmental impacts of alternatives, in at least 15 some impact areas, would reach moderate to large 16 levels of significance. Based on these conclusions, 17 the NRC staff's preliminary recommendation is that the 18 environmental impacts of license renewal are not so 19 great, that license renewal would be unreasonable.
20 Listed are some of the important milestone 21 dates for the FitzPatrick environmental review. In 22 June, we published the Draft Supplemental EIS, and we 23 are currently accepting public comments on the draft 24 until September 5th. The Final Supplemental EIS is 25 scheduled to be published in January of next year.
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17 1 And this slide identifies me as your 2 primary point of contact with the NRC for the 3 environmental review. Mr. Tommy Lee is the contact 4 for any questions related to the safety review.
5 Documents related to the FitzPatrick 6 review may be found at the Penfield Library on the 7 SUNY Oswego campus, or at the Oswego public library, 8 and at the bottom of the slide is an Internet address 9 where you can directly access the FitzPatrick 10 Supplemental EIS. Next slide.
11 There are several ways you can provide 12 your comments on the FitzPatrick draft. You can 13 provide comments today during the comment period. If 14 perhaps you're not ready to provide a comment today, 15 you can send your comments via e-mail to 16 FitzPatrickEIS@nrc.gov. You can also send them via 17 "snail mail" or hand-deliver them to us at 18 headquarters in Maryland.
19 And with that, my presentation is 20 concluded, and I'll hand it over to Rani.
21 MS. FRANOVICH: Thank you, Jessie.
22 Before we get started on the comments, 23 does anybody have a question about any of the 24 information that Jessie just went over? Any 25 questions?
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18 1 Yes, sir. Hold on. Let me come to you 2 and let you ask the question in the microphone. Your 3 name, please.
4 MR. STEVENS: Michael Stevens. What were 5 the five federal threatened or endangered terrestrial 6 species on or near the site? Do we know?
7 MS. FRANOVICH: Jessie, please go to the 8 microphone.
9 MS. MUIR: It was the bald eagle, which 10 has since been delisted, since we published. It was 11 the piping plover, which is a bird. The Indiana bat, 12 the bog turtle, and the fifth one is slipping me. Is 13 it the snake?
14 MS. FRANOVICH: We'll get back to you on 15 the fifth one. We're taking a look at the document 16 right now, so we'll get back to you on that.
17 Any other questions?
18 [No response]
19 MS. FRANOVICH: Okay. Mr. Stevens, I 20 believe you registered to make comments. Would you 21 like to approach the podium, please.
22 Mike Stevens.
23 MR. STEVENS: Good afternoon. I was born 24 and raised just within a few miles of Nine Mile Point.
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19 1 on the lake, in our home, where we will expect to be 2 retiring in. I came in today just to state that I'm 3 in favor of the license extension. My feelings are 4 based on several facts. The plant operation, as most 5 of you know, is closely monitored, as you can see here 6 today, and regulated.
7 There's FEMA, the NRC, the EPA, etcetera.
8 Redundant safety systems at the plant protect the 9 public and all of our vital equipment. The equipment 10 receives preventative maintenance to ensure 11 reliability in case of any need for it. Even the most 12 simplistic tasks are completed using written procedure 13 to ensure success and accuracy.
14 Drills and the use of equipment simulators 15 ensure training is effective for all workers, and that 16 the workers are prepared for anything.
17 Safe operation and a strong safety culture 18 is always number one at the station. Spent nuclear 19 fuel is stored safely in heavy sealed containers, 20 protecting it from all natural or manmade disasters, 21 unlike most other stations in the U.S.
22 The lack of emissions make operation 23 environmentally friendly, and a positive impact to the 24 local economy and tax base, as we all know.
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20 1 and no new plants have been started, and nuclear power 2 reduces our demand on foreign oil. As you might 3 think, my knowledge of these facts is because I work 4 at J.A.F. I'm not here as an employee today. I'm 5 here as a concerned resident. I'll retire long before 6 the license extension is needed, and will continue to 7 draw my pension, with or without the continued 8 operation of FitzPatrick.
9 I'm making my feelings known for the good 10 of the community and not the interests of the company 11 that I happen to work for.
12 The general public would feel the same way 13 that I do, if they knew what the workers already know, 14 that the plant is safe, the redundant systems protect 15 the health and safety of the public. We, as in 16 residents, should be more concerned of potential 17 emissions such as coal dust, arsenic, methane, carbon 18 dioxide from the proposed coal gassification plant 19 which will be processing 20,000 tons of coal a day, or 20 the damage to our fish population by the latest 21 invader called the round goby, which I've caught a 22 million of in the lake recently. Or the newest virus 23 infection that the fish are infested with, which is 24 called VHS.
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21 1 the opportunity to speak.
2 MS. FRANOVICH: Thank you, Mr. Stevens.
3 Next, we have Mr. Ken Schwartz who 4 registered by e-mail. Is Mr. Ken Schwartz here?
5 Okay. I don't see Mr. Schwartz.
6 Is anyone else here, present, who would 7 like to make a comment?
8 Yes, sir. Please approach the podium let 9 us know who you are, and feel free.
10 MR. TOTH: Thank you. Yes. My name's 11 Gary Toth. I'm a life-long resident of Oswego County, 12 and I'm also the business manager of Carpenters Local 13 747, and I came today in support of the license 14 renewal for the FitzPatrick nuclear plant.
15 I have about 425--I checked my 16 registration. I have about 425 members who live right 17 in Oswego County. A lot of them live in the Oswego 18 school district and in Scriba, and I tell you, we have 19 a lotta guys that work at the plant. They're in 20 there, and out, quite a bit. To a man, everyone has 21 gone in that plant, done their job, and come out 22 safely. That plant is operated very safely, very 23 well. I worked at that plant. I worked with divers.
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22 1 a little before my time. But I can attest through our 2 membership, and the people that work there, that's a 3 very well-run plant, a very well-maintained plant, a 4 very safe plant.
5 I live about ten miles east of here, 6 towards Mexico, actually west of here, towards Mexico, 7 and I'm the third generation here. I'm very 8 comfortable with this plant operating for another 20 9 years beyond its license renewal--or beyond its 10 license date. So again, I stand here on behalf of 11 about 420 members and their families, and myself, as 12 a resident, in support of the license renewal. Thank 13 you.
14 MS. FRANOVICH: Thank you.
15 Anyone else?
16 [No response]
17 MS. FRANOVICH: Okay.
18 Well, thank you all for coming and 19 listening to our presentation, sharing with us your 20 comments. The end of the comment period is September 21 the 5th. If you have any comments you wish to share 22 after this meeting, please send them electronically to 23 the address on the slide, it's not this one but it's 24 in the handout, by that date.
25 I want to thank you all for coming again.
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23 1 If you have any suggestions for how we can do our 2 meetings different, things we can do better, things we 3 can improve in, there's a meeting feedback form out 4 here on the table as you approach the room.
5 Please feel free to fill it out and hand 6 it to one of us, or if you prefer, the postage is 7 prepaid, you can fold it up and mail it in, and with 8 that, thank you very much for being here.
9 [Whereupon, at 1:55 p.m., the public 10 meeting was concluded.]
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