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| issue date = 11/24/2008
| issue date = 11/24/2008
| title = 11/04/2008 Summary of Category 2 Meeting with the BWROG and PWROG to Discuss Technical Specification Issues and TSTF-493, Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions.
| title = Summary of Category 2 Meeting with the BWROG and PWROG to Discuss Technical Specification Issues and TSTF-493, Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions.
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{{#Wiki_filter:November 24, 2008  
{{#Wiki_filter:November 24, 2008 MEMORANDUM TO: Robert B. Elliott, Chief Technical Specifications Branch Division of Inspection and Regional Support Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation FROM:                 Matthew Hamm, Reactor Engineer /RA/
 
Technical Specifications Branch Division of Inspection and Regional Support Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation
MEMORANDUM TO: Robert B. Elliott, Chief Technical Specifications Branch Division of Inspection and Regional Support Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation  
 
FROM: Matthew Hamm, Reactor Engineer   /RA/ Technical Specifications Branch Division of Inspection and Regional Support Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation  


==SUBJECT:==
==SUBJECT:==


==SUMMARY==
==SUMMARY==
OF NOVEMBER 04, 2008 CATEGORY 2 MEETING WITH THE BWROG AND PWROG TO DISCUSS TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION ISSUES AND TSTF-493, "CLARIFY APPLICATION OF SETPOINT METHODOLOGY FOR LSSS FUNCTIONS."
OF NOVEMBER 04, 2008 CATEGORY 2 MEETING WITH THE BWROG AND PWROG TO DISCUSS TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION ISSUES AND TSTF-493, CLARIFY APPLICATION OF SETPOINT METHODOLOGY FOR LSSS FUNCTIONS.
 
On November 04, 2008, a public meeting was held between the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), and members of the BWROG and PWROG at U.S. NRC Headquarters, 6003 Executive Boulevard, Rockville, MD 20852. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss issues related to Technical Specifications and TSTF-493, Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions. The meeting generally followed the agenda proposed in an October 16, 2008, Public Meeting Notice (Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS) Accession No. ML082820232) as amended by the meeting participants. contains the meeting minutes, enclosure 2 contains the attendee list, and enclosure 3 is a TSTF address list.
On November 04, 2008, a public meeting was held between the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), and members of the BWROG and PWROG at U.S. NRC Headquarters, 6003 Executive Boulevard, Rockville, MD 20852. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss issues related to Technical Specifications and TSTF-493, "Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions."  The meeting generally followed the agenda proposed in an October 16, 2008, Public Meeting Notice (Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS) Accession No. ML082820232) as amended by the meeting participants. contains the meeting minutes, enclosure 2 contains the attendee list, and enclosure 3 is a TSTF address list.
 
The following documents were provided for discussion during the meeting:
The following documents were provided for discussion during the meeting:
: 1. Handout 1 (ADAMS No. ML083240810)
: 1.     Handout 1 (ADAMS No. ML083240810)
: 2. Handout 2 (ADAMS No. ML083240825)
: 2.     Handout 2 (ADAMS No. ML083240825)
: 3. Handout 3 (ADAMS No. ML083240886)
: 3.     Handout 3 (ADAMS No. ML083240886)
: 4. Handout 4 (ADAMS No. ML083240898)
: 4.     Handout 4 (ADAMS No. ML083240898)


==Enclosures:==
==Enclosures:==


As stated  
As stated cc: See next page CONTACT:       Matthew Hamm, NRR/DIRS 301-415-1472 MEH1@nrc.gov
 
cc: See next page  
 
CONTACT: Matthew Hamm, NRR/DIRS 301-415-1472 MEH1@nrc.gov
 
ML083240775 -pkg  ITSB R/F RidsNrrDirsItsb RidsNrrDirs NRR_Dirs_Itsb Distribution OFFICE ITSB:DIRS ITSB:DIRS NAME MHamm RElliott DATE 11/20/08 11/24/08 Enclosure 1 Meeting Minutes
 
A meeting between t he U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Co mmission (NRC) and members of the Boiling Water Reactor Owners' Group (BWROG) and Pressurized Water Reactor Owners Group (PWROG) was held on November 04, 2008, to discuss issues related to Technical Specifications and TSTF-493, "Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions."
The meeting generally followed the agenda proposed in an October 16, 2008 Public Meeting Notice (Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS) Accession No. ML082820232) as amended by the meeting participants. The following is a brief summary of the meeting. 
 
I. Administrative  NRC presented Handout 1 and proposed a modification to the meeting agenda. All participants agreed to the modified agenda. NRC stated that the meeting scope should focus on management issues, and not technical issues. All participants agreed on the meeting scope. II. Discussion of Technical Specification Interpretations NRC stated that the emphasis of the briefs should be on methods to improve communications between the two groups (NRC and the BWROG and PWROG). The BWROG and PWROG (OGs) presented "Handout 2."  The OGs briefed NRC on the role and structure of the Technical Specifications Task Force (TSTF). The OGs briefed NRC on their perception of the role of NRC's Technical Specifications Branch (ITSB). The OGs stated that their concern with ITSB stems from the fact that ITSB impacts licensee plant operations. The OGs presented instances of issues they feel have negatively impacted licensees. NRC pointed out that the OGs presentation of the issues did not contain all pertinent information. The OGs presented a summary of possible factors causing the difficulty and recommendations to overcome them. NRC stated that misunderstandings exist between the OGs and NRC. OGs acknowledged that they presented the situation as they perceived it. NRC stated that communication improvement is a good place to start looking for improvements. IV. Discussion Regarding TSTF-493  The OGs briefed NRC on the background of TSTF-493. NRC provided "Handout 3" and "Handout 4" to the OGs to supplement the background brief with pertinent information.
OGs stated that after 6 years, no consistent NRC position had been put forth. The OGs summarized the points of agreement and unresolved issues related to TSTF-493. The OGs presented their recommendation to NRC. NRC asked where the OGs thought the groups (NRC and OGs) were with respect to an agreement. The OGs asked for a meeting with NRC management to discuss TSTF-493 issues. NRC stated that NRC management does not make technical decisions of that nature. NRC described the role of ITSB within the NRC. OGs stated that they have perceived a change in the manner in which NRC operates. NRC recommends a meeting of personnel not involved in TSTF-493 to bring the issue to closure. V. Public Participation Public participation was solicited, none was received. VI. Adjourn 
 
Enclosure 2 November 04, 2008 NRC-TSTF Meeting Attendance NAME  ORGANIZATION E-MAIL Abney, Tim BWROG tim.abney@ge.com Antonescu, Christina  ACRS/RSB-B christina.antonescu@nrc.gov Boger, Bruce NRC/NRR/ADRO bruce.boger@nrc.gov Brown, Frederick NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS frederick.brown@nrc.gov Buschbaum, Dennis PWROG dennis.buschbaum@luminant.com Coleman, Douglas BWROG dwcoleman@energy-northwest.com Elliott, Robert NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB robert.elliott@nrc.gov Garg, Hukam NRC/NRR/DE/EICB hcg@nrc.gov Hamm, Matthew NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB matthew.hamm@nrc.gov Hiland, Patrick NRC/NRR/ADES/DE plh@nrc.gov Hoffman, Donald TSTF  donaldh@excelservices.com Kemper, William NRC/NRR/ADES/DE/EICB wek@nrc.gov Mann, Brian TSTF/EXCEL brianm@excelservices.com Messina, John BWROG jmessina@firstenergycorp.com Rebstock, Paul NRC/RES/DE/DICB paul.rebstock@nrc.gov Richards, Karen NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB karen.richards@nrc.gov Schoppman, Mike NEI mas@nei.org Schulten, Carl NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB carl.schulten@nrc.gov Voss, Jerry EXCEL jerry.voss@excelservices.com Williams, Joseph  NRC/NRR/ADRO/DPR/PSPB joseph.williams@nrc.gov
 
Technical Specifications Task Force Mailing List
 
cc:
 
Technical Specifications Task Force 11921 Rockville, Pike Suite 100 Rockville, MD 20852


George G. Yates AmerenUE Callaway Plant Junction Hwy. CC and Hwy. O Mail Code CA-460 P.O. Box 620 Fulton, MO 65251 gyates@ameren.com
ML083240775 -pkg ITSB R/F      RidsNrrDirsItsb          RidsNrrDirs        NRR_Dirs_Itsb Distribution OFFICE          ITSB:DIRS          ITSB:DIRS NAME            MHamm              RElliott DATE            11/20/08            11/24/08


John Messina First Energy Nuclear Operating Company 76 South Main Street Mail Sto: Akron-GO-14 Akron, OH 44308 jmessina@firstenergycorp.com
Meeting Minutes A meeting between the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and members of the Boiling Water Reactor Owners Group (BWROG) and Pressurized Water Reactor Owners Group (PWROG) was held on November 04, 2008, to discuss issues related to Technical Specifications and TSTF-493, Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions.
The meeting generally followed the agenda proposed in an October 16, 2008 Public Meeting Notice (Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS) Accession No. ML082820232) as amended by the meeting participants. The following is a brief summary of the meeting.
I. Administrative NRC presented Handout 1 and proposed a modification to the meeting agenda. All participants agreed to the modified agenda. NRC stated that the meeting scope should focus on management issues, and not technical issues. All participants agreed on the meeting scope.
II. Discussion of Technical Specification Interpretations NRC stated that the emphasis of the briefs should be on methods to improve communications between the two groups (NRC and the BWROG and PWROG).
The BWROG and PWROG (OGs) presented Handout 2. The OGs briefed NRC on the role and structure of the Technical Specifications Task Force (TSTF). The OGs briefed NRC on their perception of the role of NRCs Technical Specifications Branch (ITSB). The OGs stated that their concern with ITSB stems from the fact that ITSB impacts licensee plant operations. The OGs presented instances of issues they feel have negatively impacted licensees. NRC pointed out that the OGs presentation of the issues did not contain all pertinent information. The OGs presented a summary of possible factors causing the difficulty and recommendations to overcome them. NRC stated that misunderstandings exist between the OGs and NRC. OGs acknowledged that they presented the situation as they perceived it. NRC stated that communication improvement is a good place to start looking for improvements.
IV. Discussion Regarding TSTF-493 The OGs briefed NRC on the background of TSTF-493. NRC provided Handout 3 and Handout 4 to the OGs to supplement the background brief with pertinent information.
OGs stated that after 6 years, no consistent NRC position had been put forth. The OGs summarized the points of agreement and unresolved issues related to TSTF-493. The OGs presented their recommendation to NRC. NRC asked where the OGs thought the groups (NRC and OGs) were with respect to an agreement. The OGs asked for a meeting with NRC management to discuss TSTF-493 issues. NRC stated that NRC management does not make technical decisions of that nature. NRC described the role of ITSB within the NRC. OGs stated that they have perceived a change in the manner in which NRC Enclosure 1


David Bice Entergy N-GSB64 Russellville, AR 72802 dbice@entergy.com
operates. NRC recommends a meeting of personnel not involved in TSTF-493 to bring the issue to closure.
V. Public Participation Public participation was solicited, none was received.
VI. Adjourn


Reene= V. Gambrell Duke Energy Mailcode: ON03RC 7800 Rochester Highway Seneca, SC 29672 RVGambrell@duke-energy.com Donald R. Hoffman EXCEL Services Corporation 11921 Rockville Pike, Suite 100 Rockville, MD 20852 donaldh@excelservices.com
November 04, 2008 NRC-TSTF Meeting Attendance NAME              ORGANIZATION                        E-MAIL Abney, Tim            BWROG                      tim.abney@ge.com Antonescu, Christina  ACRS/RSB-B                  christina.antonescu@nrc.gov Boger, Bruce          NRC/NRR/ADRO                bruce.boger@nrc.gov Brown, Frederick      NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS          frederick.brown@nrc.gov Buschbaum, Dennis      PWROG                      dennis.buschbaum@luminant.com Coleman, Douglas      BWROG                      dwcoleman@energy-northwest.com Elliott, Robert        NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB      robert.elliott@nrc.gov Garg, Hukam            NRC/NRR/DE/EICB            hcg@nrc.gov Hamm, Matthew          NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB      matthew.hamm@nrc.gov Hiland, Patrick        NRC/NRR/ADES/DE            plh@nrc.gov Hoffman, Donald       TSTF                        donaldh@excelservices.com Kemper, William        NRC/NRR/ADES/DE/EICB        wek@nrc.gov Mann, Brian            TSTF/EXCEL                 brianm@excelservices.com Messina, John          BWROG                      jmessina@firstenergycorp.com Rebstock, Paul        NRC/RES/DE/DICB            paul.rebstock@nrc.gov Richards, Karen        NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB      karen.richards@nrc.gov Schoppman, Mike        NEI                        mas@nei.org Schulten, Carl        NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB      carl.schulten@nrc.gov Voss, Jerry            EXCEL                      jerry.voss@excelservices.com Williams, Joseph      NRC/NRR/ADRO/DPR/PSPB      joseph.williams@nrc.gov Enclosure 2


Brian Mann EXCEL Services Corporation 11921 Rockville Pike, Suite 100 Rockville, MD 20852 brianm@excelservices.com}}
Technical Specifications Task Force Mailing List cc:
Technical Specifications Task Force                Donald R. Hoffman 11921 Rockville, Pike                              EXCEL Services Corporation Suite 100                                          11921 Rockville Pike, Suite 100 Rockville, MD 20852                                Rockville, MD 20852 donaldh@excelservices.com George G. Yates AmerenUE Callaway Plant                            Brian Mann Junction Hwy. CC and Hwy. O                        EXCEL Services Corporation Mail Code CA-460                                  11921 Rockville Pike, Suite 100 P.O. Box 620                                      Rockville, MD 20852 Fulton, MO 65251                                  brianm@excelservices.com gyates@ameren.com John Messina First Energy Nuclear Operating Company 76 South Main Street Mail Sto: Akron-GO-14 Akron, OH 44308 jmessina@firstenergycorp.com David Bice Entergy N-GSB64 Russellville, AR 72802 dbice@entergy.com Reene= V. Gambrell Duke Energy Mailcode: ON03RC 7800 Rochester Highway Seneca, SC 29672 RVGambrell@duke-energy.com}}

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Summary of Category 2 Meeting with the BWROG and PWROG to Discuss Technical Specification Issues and TSTF-493, Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions.
ML083240780
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Issue date: 11/24/2008
From: Matthew Hamm
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November 24, 2008 MEMORANDUM TO: Robert B. Elliott, Chief Technical Specifications Branch Division of Inspection and Regional Support Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation FROM: Matthew Hamm, Reactor Engineer /RA/

Technical Specifications Branch Division of Inspection and Regional Support Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation

SUBJECT:

SUMMARY

OF NOVEMBER 04, 2008 CATEGORY 2 MEETING WITH THE BWROG AND PWROG TO DISCUSS TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION ISSUES AND TSTF-493, CLARIFY APPLICATION OF SETPOINT METHODOLOGY FOR LSSS FUNCTIONS.

On November 04, 2008, a public meeting was held between the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), and members of the BWROG and PWROG at U.S. NRC Headquarters, 6003 Executive Boulevard, Rockville, MD 20852. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss issues related to Technical Specifications and TSTF-493, Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions. The meeting generally followed the agenda proposed in an October 16, 2008, Public Meeting Notice (Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS) Accession No. ML082820232) as amended by the meeting participants. contains the meeting minutes, enclosure 2 contains the attendee list, and enclosure 3 is a TSTF address list.

The following documents were provided for discussion during the meeting:

1. Handout 1 (ADAMS No. ML083240810)
2. Handout 2 (ADAMS No. ML083240825)
3. Handout 3 (ADAMS No. ML083240886)
4. Handout 4 (ADAMS No. ML083240898)

Enclosures:

As stated cc: See next page CONTACT: Matthew Hamm, NRR/DIRS 301-415-1472 MEH1@nrc.gov

ML083240775 -pkg ITSB R/F RidsNrrDirsItsb RidsNrrDirs NRR_Dirs_Itsb Distribution OFFICE ITSB:DIRS ITSB:DIRS NAME MHamm RElliott DATE 11/20/08 11/24/08

Meeting Minutes A meeting between the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and members of the Boiling Water Reactor Owners Group (BWROG) and Pressurized Water Reactor Owners Group (PWROG) was held on November 04, 2008, to discuss issues related to Technical Specifications and TSTF-493, Clarify Application of Setpoint Methodology for LSSS Functions.

The meeting generally followed the agenda proposed in an October 16, 2008 Public Meeting Notice (Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS) Accession No. ML082820232) as amended by the meeting participants. The following is a brief summary of the meeting.

I. Administrative NRC presented Handout 1 and proposed a modification to the meeting agenda. All participants agreed to the modified agenda. NRC stated that the meeting scope should focus on management issues, and not technical issues. All participants agreed on the meeting scope.

II. Discussion of Technical Specification Interpretations NRC stated that the emphasis of the briefs should be on methods to improve communications between the two groups (NRC and the BWROG and PWROG).

The BWROG and PWROG (OGs) presented Handout 2. The OGs briefed NRC on the role and structure of the Technical Specifications Task Force (TSTF). The OGs briefed NRC on their perception of the role of NRCs Technical Specifications Branch (ITSB). The OGs stated that their concern with ITSB stems from the fact that ITSB impacts licensee plant operations. The OGs presented instances of issues they feel have negatively impacted licensees. NRC pointed out that the OGs presentation of the issues did not contain all pertinent information. The OGs presented a summary of possible factors causing the difficulty and recommendations to overcome them. NRC stated that misunderstandings exist between the OGs and NRC. OGs acknowledged that they presented the situation as they perceived it. NRC stated that communication improvement is a good place to start looking for improvements.

IV. Discussion Regarding TSTF-493 The OGs briefed NRC on the background of TSTF-493. NRC provided Handout 3 and Handout 4 to the OGs to supplement the background brief with pertinent information.

OGs stated that after 6 years, no consistent NRC position had been put forth. The OGs summarized the points of agreement and unresolved issues related to TSTF-493. The OGs presented their recommendation to NRC. NRC asked where the OGs thought the groups (NRC and OGs) were with respect to an agreement. The OGs asked for a meeting with NRC management to discuss TSTF-493 issues. NRC stated that NRC management does not make technical decisions of that nature. NRC described the role of ITSB within the NRC. OGs stated that they have perceived a change in the manner in which NRC Enclosure 1

operates. NRC recommends a meeting of personnel not involved in TSTF-493 to bring the issue to closure.

V. Public Participation Public participation was solicited, none was received.

VI. Adjourn

November 04, 2008 NRC-TSTF Meeting Attendance NAME ORGANIZATION E-MAIL Abney, Tim BWROG tim.abney@ge.com Antonescu, Christina ACRS/RSB-B christina.antonescu@nrc.gov Boger, Bruce NRC/NRR/ADRO bruce.boger@nrc.gov Brown, Frederick NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS frederick.brown@nrc.gov Buschbaum, Dennis PWROG dennis.buschbaum@luminant.com Coleman, Douglas BWROG dwcoleman@energy-northwest.com Elliott, Robert NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB robert.elliott@nrc.gov Garg, Hukam NRC/NRR/DE/EICB hcg@nrc.gov Hamm, Matthew NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB matthew.hamm@nrc.gov Hiland, Patrick NRC/NRR/ADES/DE plh@nrc.gov Hoffman, Donald TSTF donaldh@excelservices.com Kemper, William NRC/NRR/ADES/DE/EICB wek@nrc.gov Mann, Brian TSTF/EXCEL brianm@excelservices.com Messina, John BWROG jmessina@firstenergycorp.com Rebstock, Paul NRC/RES/DE/DICB paul.rebstock@nrc.gov Richards, Karen NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB karen.richards@nrc.gov Schoppman, Mike NEI mas@nei.org Schulten, Carl NRC/NRR/ADRO/DIRS/ITSB carl.schulten@nrc.gov Voss, Jerry EXCEL jerry.voss@excelservices.com Williams, Joseph NRC/NRR/ADRO/DPR/PSPB joseph.williams@nrc.gov Enclosure 2

Technical Specifications Task Force Mailing List cc:

Technical Specifications Task Force Donald R. Hoffman 11921 Rockville, Pike EXCEL Services Corporation Suite 100 11921 Rockville Pike, Suite 100 Rockville, MD 20852 Rockville, MD 20852 donaldh@excelservices.com George G. Yates AmerenUE Callaway Plant Brian Mann Junction Hwy. CC and Hwy. O EXCEL Services Corporation Mail Code CA-460 11921 Rockville Pike, Suite 100 P.O. Box 620 Rockville, MD 20852 Fulton, MO 65251 brianm@excelservices.com gyates@ameren.com John Messina First Energy Nuclear Operating Company 76 South Main Street Mail Sto: Akron-GO-14 Akron, OH 44308 jmessina@firstenergycorp.com David Bice Entergy N-GSB64 Russellville, AR 72802 dbice@entergy.com Reene= V. Gambrell Duke Energy Mailcode: ON03RC 7800 Rochester Highway Seneca, SC 29672 RVGambrell@duke-energy.com

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