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Informs That Margen Would Be Interested in Pressure & Suppression Principle for Bodega Bay & Whether Commission Has Requested Specific Experiments Re Program
ML20234B760
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Site: 05000000, Bodega Bay
Issue date: 11/05/1962
From: Leifland L
SWEDEN, GOVT. OF
To: Burke W
US ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION (AEC)
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of the speakers finally l,clared, " insults r!cetric Co/r pro;t,:cd nuclear'd persons said flatly Ox Bo. presented but our intelligence!

reactor at Eodega ll:ad is the'de;;a plant is likely to have an nyera new butle cry cf opy.: ion to the{ atomic accident: but they wid'said he thought they were " errors'We have the tlght to dislike any.

compnny's plans for a power plant'the safety systems are untricd on i. Imcepretatioc."

thing we want,."

there, a full scalc and that the quesdon; ht he did promise the group Mr. Crcndon apologized.

A series of >peakers n a meet. of public protection shou!d be' bat he would ask that the Atomic 3

.Eacrgy Corrmission proceedings speakers and hsues ing in Santa Rosa Saturday night;more fully explored.

ske:ched the haard. M ndiation: A recurring theme was that the on PG&E's construction permit a? Some of the speahcrs and issues e

and of reactors in gen:ral terms. ',"cxperts" should not be trusted l plication-the next big step--bc raisei Ar.d oiers oudined pads of ac. by the public, but that the public;hed locally.

, Dr. Malcoln. Petersm, represen.

tha that include e,.s:ah to the'aould be fully informed of the lic predicted he would be su: jtauve of the Gccater SL Louis Senoma County Sul.crvi. sors and! safety and then make a decision cessful in getting the h:arings;Citiecns' Com;nktec for Nuc! c court action to halt da udlity comJon the planL pnoved from Maryland, where they Informadon and dirxtor of the I

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Wash:ngton U.dversity Divisien o!! l par.y's plans until farther nudics!

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Mldalght Debate can be made.

The big opposidon in the earlierj 'Ihc relative ca'.m of the 3%.lings would deal with the question battic beforc ',he Ph.he Utiliticsihour meeting was rippled near of reactor safety, and told the!fccis in m i

he com:dmidnight when Alexander Gren ; crowd that "you can't in youriof life and genetic changes trand-thefdon, the Governors Co.Ordir.ator;cwn doctor, you can't be your own mitted from generatim to genera Com: Hision--which von cicte rgumc/r, 0.:.t ion.

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sectic and xdendf;c pscatial oflof Atomic Energy Development expert."

p'.r.at would w.stroy '..: recreation.

d tand Radiation Puccilon. entered' That rankled -John Radu, Santa Scientists and nat ons disa;reci the Tbde;;a '..:adland.s and Bodega'the discussion.

!1osa. who with Marvin E. Brown, on what is a " safe" !a There as en chwrver. Mr. Gren A!:cy Ford, are to form a "st'cr i (Continued on Pa;e 2, Cr,L 3) c lir.rbor.

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.t.d. don si n." said Dr. Thornton. "is of "ljat we mual consider the hvac 3afe devices to prevent accidentscou

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addmg that the jid;;mcat on the benclits "sholdd not b? c.:.'ie by acci. cat occurred:"Nevertheless." he said. "this l

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ude: a new kind of con-Dner <lsarc ouNression containmen

ainment Dr. Tin son & r:ent.

system... called pres-sity 4 Cahfornia ec.ie.arh ocien-lTimrnton sald "whi h i i

tiat at the Danner Lahora:nry of;he testcd on a worki c s yet to hiedical and !!io Physics. who num I

ng reactor."

hned the rnajnr known reac!o/ ar-esdents, including the !!v4 acci-

' dent involving a strall ho.l. cwa g, h 2 cs b f4 o operau.on m. the I(umboldt ter reactor.

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k (Tac company says the " unique j

desi;;n. which protects operating personne! and the public against y

.har.crds resulting from an acciden-tal release of radioactivity, is be-

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lieved to be a significant advance in the art" of reactor buf!dingt.

Dr. Richard C. Sill. University of NevWa physics professce, who!

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cisti concern over the dangers of-radir. tion, and who said it is difhcult to get "technicalinforma-tion and evaluation frorn compe-tent scientists who are free from financial or administrative re-straict."

He saw "just one way you can proceed at this juncture and re-tain traditional democratic institu-tions a;id processes. You can de-mand by petition, publicity, and pos-albly by legal s,ction that the permit granted to PG1E he held in abey-ance umil the whole subject... has Leen prgerly evalusted."

'Ile huct said two possible con-st. hants whd would be independ-ent" are Dr. Ralph E. Lapp, of Arlington. Va., on the reactor.

health and physical hazards part of the problem and Dr. Harrison Brown. California Institute of Tech-l l

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to " remain skepucal of the people who spcAe here tanight."

lie saw Mr. Grendon in the rear i

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of the room at the Odd Fellows Max Kortum, Petaluma rancher l hall and asked him to answer a f

and a strong figure in the battle question from the floor about the before the PUC carlier this year. possibilities of "cther uses" of the i d the group that Sonoma Coun-Bodega t,ite ether than an electric ervisors were "!ooled con-power plant.

"thousand inaccuracies" statement. '

f by the word ' steam Mr. Grendon used that as a plat. which brought a kriot of speakers then tne permit for the, form from which to explain the around him. He said there were!

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fn't know then that the official mechanisms for insuring "so many that it is impossible' 1

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a " proper hearing can be heid" of state agencies "to see that noth.!ia:ctPretations.

by the county on the use permit Ing is overInnked in the way of; But extravagant things were it issued in !Y,0.

about the " relative has.

said;', of the plar.t. and the " tone Phi!!ip Berry. 0Aland lawye, safety."

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who represented the Sierra Club' A " measured risk" is a price of the meeting was not to inform,

. j at the PUC hearings, told the of progress, Mr. Grendon said, but to mis-mform."

4 group he finds strength in the and "we must not stifle progress argument that the use permit was by not doit;; anything."

The meeting was sponsored by Mr. Pesonen ti,ld the state offi.

the Northern California Associa.

illegal, on grounds that PG&l; didn't submit complete plans and cial that he presented "a very Lion to Preserve Bodega Head and specifications on s@ plication.

able esse for a very disabled sub. Harbor, the Bodega Bay Chamber "Gr.e of the really tragic things." jcet," and said Mr. Grendon an. of Commerce and the Santa Rosa he :Jd, "is.the attitude taken by swered " glibly," working "at a Unitarian Fellowship.

the Board of Supervisors in this great tactical disadvantage."

coun That attitude he defined, Mr, Grendon objected: he wasn't f as "ty." arrogant and presumptuous"!being glib. he said; his answers l

in "not holding one public hear, were " carefully thought out and ing" on the question of the permit. honestly a,poken."

David,Pcsonen, organizer of the Nr. Grendon agreed-in answer!

, meeting and a leader in the Sierra to a quotion from Mr. Pesonen-l that he'd attempt to get the AEC];

CLS battle against the plant be.

3 hearings held locally.

Ifore the PUC, told the crowd that "th:s isn't over yet."

But be warned that only testi. I many of " experts" or those directq'

" Skeptical Attitude" ly involved would be weighed by '

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The arguments by Dr. Thorn-ton 5aegent (Tbc Chronicle, November il) seemed convincing.

!y to refute the reasons presented of P.G. & E. for its choice of this, 1

location.

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version in the local waterway could raise temperature for as much as a few days to a level where much of the life would be killed alone i

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. Bodega Bay Reactor l

Editor-l would like to.make a N

few clarifying remarks with regard '

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> i First, t.t no time did I say the

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only one of -which was in the United States,.. Your story said s

"there have been a number of re.,

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. rather dif ferent impression. I also -

stated that the safety' record of the atomic energy industry' has been excellent as a whole.

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f reactor at Bodega are boiling water types, this is the end of their,'

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which is an oversimplification.

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did not mean to imply that the potential for an accident was of a similar level in the two...

I took some pains to state that reactor technology is not my field, and that because the people in Sonoma county were unable to find an expert on reactor safety I

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