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Informs That Margen Would Be Interested in Pressure & Suppression Principle for Bodega Bay & Whether Commission Has Requested Specific Experiments Re Program
ML20234B760
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Site: 05000000, Bodega Bay
Issue date: 11/05/1962
From: Leifland L
SWEDEN, GOVT. OF
To: Burke W
US ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION (AEC)
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the speakers finally l,clared, " our insults intelligence!

> reactor at Eodega ll:ad is the'de;;a plant is likely to have an nyera new butle cry cf opy.: ion to the{ atomic accident: but they wid'said he thought they were " errors'We have the tlght to dislike any.

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compnny's plans for a power plant'the safety systems are untricd on i . Imcepretatioc."

there, a full scalc and that the quesdon; ht he did promise the group Mr. Crcndon apologized.

A series of >peakers n a meet. of public protection shou!d be' bat he would ask that the Atomic

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.Eacrgy Corrmission proceedings speakers and hsues e ing in Santa Rosa Saturday night;more fully explored. ,

ske:ched the haard. M ndiation: A recurring theme was that the on PG&E's construction permit a? Some of the speahcrs and issues and of reactors in gen:ral terms. ',"cxperts" should not be trusted l plication-the next big step--bc raisei Ar.d oiers oudined pads of ac. by the public, but that the public;hed locally. , Dr. Malcoln. Petersm, represen.

tha that include e,.s:ah to the'aould be fully informed of the lic predicted he would be su: jtauve of the Gccater SL Louis  !

Senoma County Sul.crvi. sors and! safety and then make a decision cessful in getting the h:arings;Citiecns' Com;nktec for Nuc! cI court action to halt da udlity comJon the planL pnoved from Maryland, where they Informadon and dirxtor of the

,are customarily held. Wash:ngton U.dversity Divisien o!! l par.y's plans until farther nudics!

Mldalght Debate i And he said the AEC's proccel Gasirventerolq;y, o u t1in e d thel l can be made. l The big opposidon in the earlierj 'Ihc relative ca'.m of the 3%.lings would deal with the question battic beforc ',he Ph.he Utiliticsihour meeting was i rippled near of reactor safety, and told the!fccis in m Com: Hision--which he com:dmidnight when Alexander Gren ; crowd that "you can't in youriof life and genetic changes trand-mitted from generatim to genera von cicte rgumc/r , 0.:.t thefdon, the Governors Co.Ordir.ator;cwn doctor, you can't be your own p'.r.at would w.stroy '..: recreation.

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Atomicentered' Energy That Development rankled -John Radu,expert."

Santa Scientists and nat ons disa;reci d

tand Radiation the Tbde;;a '..:adland.s and Bodega'the discussion. !1osa. who with Marvin E. Brown, i on(Continued what is a "2,safe" !a There as en chwrver. Mr. Gren A!:cy Ford, are to form a "st'cr c on Pa;e Cr,L 3) lir.rbor.

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,addmg Dis and risks" of atomic ancrgy, in vite nf operator crror."

that the jid;;mcat on the benclits "sholdd not b? c.:.'ie by acci. cat occurred:"Nevertheless." he said. "this l scientists, una arc only r.iuncrs .

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in. ihe lic!d of nature. Tre &ct boiTk PGLE proposal is for a \

elon rests on you, and tauld nothjeg!Mg-water reactor at Bodega be ddepied to semitin "

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Dr. Tin son & r:ent. system . . . called pres-sity 4 Cahfornia ec.ie.arh Dnerocien-lTimrnton

<lsarc ouNression con s yet sald "whi h i to containmen i tiat at and the!!io Danner Physics.Lahora:nry of;he testcd a worki

! hiedical who num ng reactor." I hned the rnajnr known reac!o/ ar-esdents, including the !!v4 acci- cs

' dent involving a strall ho.l.o cwa b f4 g, hm.2the I(umboldt operau.on ter reactor~. ,

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.j' 'W#$suppr&E says it tested the pressure  !

ession system in model form i

land la part of the final reactor be- i

fore gaining AEC approval some i
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, (Tac company says the " unique j desi;;n. which protects operating '  !

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.har.crds resulting from an acciden-  !

! tal release of radioactivity, is be- {

lieved to be a significant advance "

in the art" of reactor buf!dingt.

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Dr. Richard C. Sill. University of NevWa physics professce, who!

outhnad the professional physi!

cisti concern over the dangers of-radir. tion, and who said it is difhcult to get "technicalinforma-tion and evaluation frorn compe-tent scientists who are free from financial or administrative re-straict."

  • He saw "just one way you can proceed at this juncture and re-tain traditional democratic institu-
  • tions a;id processes. You can de-mand by petition, publicity, and pos- .

albly by legal s,ction that the permit granted to PG1E he held in abey- ,

ance umil the whole subject . . . has Leen prgerly evalusted."

'Ile huct said two possible con- -

  • st. hants whd would be independ-ent" are Dr. Ralph E. Lapp, of Arlington. Va., on the reactor.

health and physical hazards part -

of the problem and Dr. Harrison ,

Brown. California Institute of Tech-l l

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who spcAe here tanight."

i lie saw Mr. Grendon in the rear nology geochemistry professor). of the room at the Odd Fellows Max Kortum, Petaluma rancher l hall and asked him to answer a f and a strong figure in the battle question from the floor about the before the PUC carlier this year. possibilities of "cther uses" of the i d the group that Sonoma Coun- Bodega t,ite ether than an electric -.

ervisors were "!ooled con- power plant. "thousand inaccuracies" statement . '

by the word ' steam Mr. Grendon used that as a plat. which brought a kriot of speakers f

then tne permit for the, form from which to explain the around him. He said there were! l P.a anted. official mechanisms for insuring "so many that it is impossible' 1 fn't know then that WM the 'h 4 m 611" them, but on pressure /I plar .s to be atomic. powered. j He intervenes in proceedings be.jfrom a couple of the speakers con.

he said, but now he said he hopea i

' fore the AEC, he said, on beha ;, ceded some might have been " mis.  !

a " proper hearing can be heid" of state agencies "to see that noth.!ia:ctPretations.

by the county on the use permit it issued in !Y,0. Ing is overInnked in the way of; But extravagant things were about the " relative has.

Phi!!ip Berry. 0Aland lawye, safety." :said;',

ards of the plar.t. and the " tone 1 who represented the Sierra Club' A " measured risk" is a price of the meeting was not to inform, .j at the PUC hearings, told the of progress, Mr. Grendon said, but to mis-mform." 4 group he finds strength in the and "we must not stifle progress The meeting was sponsored by argument that the use permit was by not doit;; anything." the Northern California Associa.

illegal, on grounds that PG&l; Mr. Pesonen ti,ld the state offi. Lion to Preserve Bodega Head and didn't submit complete plans and cial that he presented "a very specifications on s@ plication. able esse for a very disabled sub. Harbor, the Bodega Bay Chamber of Commerce and the Santa Rosa "Gr.e of the really tragic things." jcet," and said Mr. Grendon an.

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he :Jd, "is .the attitude taken by swered " glibly," working "at a the Board of Supervisors in this great tactical disadvantage."

  • coun That attitude he defined, Mr, Grendon objected: he wasn't f as "ty." arrogant and presumptuous"!being glib. he said; his answers ,,

l in "not holding one public hear, were " carefully thought out and ing" on the question of the permit. honestly a,poken."  ;

David,Pcsonen, organizer of the Nr. Grendon agreed-in answer!

, meeting and a leader in the Sierra to a quotion from Mr. Pesonen- l CLS battle against the plant be.

Ifore the PUC, told the crowd that that he'd heldattempt to get the AEC];

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"th:s isn't over yet." But be warned that only testi. I many of " experts" or those directq' '

" Skeptical Attitude" ly involved would be weighed by' '

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declared, " demands a skeptical at._

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l Pcril at Bodcga Mcad Editor-The Public Utilities J Commin:en has approved the P.G. ]

& E. kcoga Head project-virtu- ~

l ally as presented by P.G. & E. and 1 with no safeguards assured for that j scenic cnd unique crea.

The arguments by Dr. Thorn-ton 5aegent (Tbc Chronicle, November il) seemed convincing.

!y to refute the reasons presented of P.G. & E. for its choice of this, . .

location. 1 i

Specifically, the very great i possibility that a temperature in- )

version in the local waterway could -

raise temperature for as much as a few days to a level where much of .

the life would be killed alone i makes the site most incompatible 1 with the needs for producing ]

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LETTER '

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" . Bodega Bay Reactor .

l Editor-l would like to.make a N

    • few clarifying remarks with regard ' . .

- to my statements about the Bodega

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First, t.t no time did I say the

' " plant should not be built;" l said - .

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- I described the three major re.

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. actor accidents which are known -

to have occurred in the world since . .-

. the beginning of the atomic rge, -

only one of -which was in the United States , . . Your story said s

"there have been a number of re. ,

, actor failures in the Nation in the -  !

past few years," which gives a

  • . rather dif ferent impression. I also - ,

' stated that the safety' record of

  • the atomic energy industry' has
  • been excellent as a whole. / ,

Although both the SL-1 reactor .

at Arco and the proposed P.G.&E.

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similarity. Your story says they

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< which is an oversimplification. I.

  • did not mean to imply that the

. potential for an accident was of a similar level in the two . . . .

I took some pains to state that reactor technology is not my field, and that because the people in

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Ing to fill the gap. I thing P.G.&E.

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