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Informs That Under Separate Cover,Summary of Util 620307-09 Hearing Before State of CA Puc to Be Forwarded.Meeting Should Be Conducted for Local & State Officials Prior to Public Meeting & Schedules for Meetings Should Be Arranged
ML20234A841
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Site: 05000000, Bodega Bay
Issue date: 03/12/1962
From: Southwick R
US ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION (AEC)
To: Fouchard J
US ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION (AEC)
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' Jesoph Feeshard, Division of Public Informaties, seedquarters Bedemy L. Southwick, Assistaat to the Manager for Public tafeenmaties, SAN PBSLIC MEETING ON BODEGA BAY AFFLECAT10h RY PG AMD E M1 RLS 1 .

l In a separate memorandum you are being seat a m of the PG and I hearing en March 7, 8, and 9, 196f, before the California

. Public Utilitise Commission. Da the basis of that hearias and discussions with verteus. representatives attending the hearias, it insutd appear advisable that ubes the time esses for eensider-tag a public meeting ta the Bodega Bay area, similar to those held at F1a====*== and Beeck Betten, that we de more detailed 1 advance p1===dag. I assume such a public meeting will be can-ducted la advance of the forest public hearias. 1 1 - It would appear that PG and E might be opposed to such a meettag. That is the reaction of the present Public Balations Director for the Company, ube, by the issy, leaves that position effective April 1. 1

. w, w, , 2 - We should make it clear, if it te true, that ABC seasideration of the PG and E applicaties does not take inte messideratias other )

potential land uses for the area tavelved such as future recrea. 7 ties and park areas. This is a matter en which 'the local ==aine, s I

harbor and planaias commissions and Board of Supervisors have already acted. Thus the critics appearing wesid be reduced by a j Large number.

3 - A meettag should be coeducted for local and State officials prior te the public meeting. A ochadste sould be arranged for an early afterneen meeting with such officials and a publis meeting to follow La the evening. Public officials to be instadad would be those with interest at the Stata level,'the County offisere including Board of asporvisers, Barbor h ==ian; Marth Coast Pollution Centrol'Beerd. Essing Commissions and tema offistals from the immediate area.

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Most of these ersamisations already have signified approval of the IS and 5 application, but are not. knowledgeable about ABC regulattens and prosedures. By having them fully infonised, we would have support from them and an excellent source of explana-tien to the public to alley doubts and apprehensions.

4 - Lowenstein and his briefers should be prepared ts handle inquiries about how the possible effects of the plant would be controlled especially la the acesa and. bay, and effects en fish, shellfish and boat traffic.

5 - 1 reoemmond that a list of all local officists be prepared and a spostal maillag list be established to keep them informed of ABC activities in sommestica with this application. They should ,

be seat, for tastance, all our public ancanae====*s en the Bodega- d Bay plant, imeloding the feet we have received the PG and I appli-cation.

It would be advisabia to have a limited number of copies of the applicatica for at least the sonoma County Board of Super-

' visors iso that it would be available locally and possibly one other copy for the nearest community to the site.

It would be advisable also that the local authorities be given a contact with E. W. Smith, Director, Compliance Region V, so that they eaa direst any inquiries to a local office in order to obtain

. . , , ,q immediate replies to any questions they may have. Admittedly some replies may have to be obtained from Washington, but the local relationscontact within the Stata is important from the community vieupotat. These people generally feel Washington is a long way off, deeply concerned with other problems and that the mail takes sa inordinate amount of time to get East and back.

1 PG and E representatives at the Public Utilities Commission hearing indicated that they would file their application with AEC in July or August.1962. se that there is ample time for completing an information plan for this activity.

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< sineIARY OF vramtma ggy0RE CALIPOENIA PUC ON PG AND E APPLICATION POR CERTIFICATION OF BODEGA SAY NUCLEAR POWER PLANT MI RLS On March 7, 8 and 9, 1962,. hearings were conducted by Examiner Leonard 8. Patterson of the California Public Utilities Commission, j l en the application of P=effde Gas and Electric Co. for a certificate j i to build a 325 MW meelear power plant at Bodega Bay, California. J The plant would be fiamarad by'PG and E, with Gemaral Electric furnish-ing a boiling water roaster, at an estimated cost of $61,000,000 esclusive of tr== =i==4== costs ( %4,185,000 including transmission and step-up).

' l As shown in " Estimated Cost of Power from Bodega Bay Plant", PG and E j figures its cost of power at the plant, at 90 percent capacity, at i 5.5 mills /ksh and the average delivered cost at 6.2 mills /kuh. Other figures are listed for other capacity levels.

The applicaties was supported by the mana== County Labor and Industrial v+ ~ ,

Boards maa=== Gounty' Industrial 1 -' , --~ Board; Sonoma County.  ;

Barbor Csamaisatong Besome County Planning Commissions Sonoma County I Ioning commissiang Sonoma County Board of Supervisors; and Sonoma County Central Embor Council. La addition Alexander Grendon, coordina- l

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tor of Atomis Energy Development and madiation Protection, appeared in favor di the application.

i However, a representative of the California Fish and Game Department (Barold Stasell) requested that as part of the certification the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) include a list of conditions relat-i ,

. ing to marine studies and centrols. This.was opposed by PG and E, although it was agreed that the Department's requirements would be met including a two year pre-operational marine study in the Bodega

){ Head area. k, Such a study, probably under Dr. Ernest Salo of Humboldt State College, i uomid be used tershow shether siiskt amounts of radioactivity in dis-

, J \, ttharged water' womid have a significant effect' on the biota, and would serve as a base for the operational period. The two-year period was requested.to take inte consideration any changes in cycles and to allow for changes caused by fallost. .

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844 1 5 Iltf Joseph Fouchard Opponents of the application were an attorney representing Mrs. Rose Caffney who owns 64 acres of land sought by PG and E in a condemna-tion proceeding; Harold Gilliam, San Francisco author and newsman; Ned Chapin, Menlo Park, an electronics engineer; and Peter William Rubenke, a youngster and part time' student in gan Francisco School of.

Fine Arts.

Chapin, however, limited his criticism to the proposed transmission lines which would cross from Bodega Head to the mainland advocating i

. that such lines be placed underground; the cost of which was estimated -l by PG and E at $5,000,000. l PG and E witnesses stated during the proceedings that four nuclear 1

power units ultimately were planned at Bodega Baad, but no decisions

, had been made as to the type of reactors to be used at this time.

Actually the plans, designa and siting for various facilities includ-ing transmission lines appeared to be apprawi==tions and preif=4 mary. J Access to Sodega Head was the subject of considerable discussion.

Although presently the land is privately owned by PG and E, Mrs. Gaffney and others, there is no access to the public. In addition the head is located on steep palisades ranging up to 200 feet high of sheer per-pendicular rock. Currents and tidal action around the head are extreme-ly strong and make boating and swimming at the base impossible.

Bodega Head is located just wast of the San Andreas fault zone, but PG and E witnesses testified that the granitic nature of the head and construction of earthquake resistant structures would prevent any shock damage. . The reactor itselff as presently planned, would be under-ground on the east, or bayside, of Bodega Head. The water discharge area is on the west or oceanside.

Water discharge from the plant for one unit would be at the rate of 250,000 gallons per minute. For four units this usuld be 1,000,000 gallonspetaminute. For four units this would be 1,000,000 gallens per minute, it was testified.

t F50CEIDDIGs The hearing was opened by the PG and E setorney (Marrissey) with a review of the available pesar sourses in the north Sea Frameisco Bay -

Area. Those counties seasidered immediate service area include Sonoma and Maria, and parts of Mapa and Mendocino, all north of the Bay Area.

Merrissey -rised 70 and E's interest ta amelear energy stase 1951

, la participation with other utility campanies and remeter ====fmaturers.

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GAP. I l 1961 Joseph Fouchard - 3-noting the PUC approved the Vallecitos Boiling Mater Reactor in 19573 Bumboldt Bay 60 apf reactor in 1959; and PG and E participation in the Dresden 180 MW plant.'

Operation at Bodega Bay of the 325 ISi unit being considered at the-hearing is scheduled for 1966. The 5.5 mill rate, he expiminad, was based on a second core to be installed.after three and a half years .  :)

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. operation of the first core (which really means Bodega Bay would.

have power at that estimated rate possibly in 1970).- The average power cost at plant im August 1960 for the PG and E system was about 8 mills /kwh. l j

At this point FUC staff counsei (3ricca) stated pareous appearing . .

at the hearing would be given opportunity to express their views and  ;

that concern of staff counsel was with public safety and the economic feasibility of the reactor plant. He added that 70 and E's presenta-- )

tion had been sketchy, but Morrissey objected saying the company uns. 1 just beginning its presentatina.

An assistant State Attormsy-General (Ralph Scott) then statsd the con. '

corn of the State Fish and Game Department over access to fisheries, the harbor of refuge' at Bodega Bay, and proposed-leasing of certain 1

tidalands by PG'and E from Sonoma County.

(Purpose of leasing is for 76 and E to construct au access road from the mainland around the inside of ,

the Head to,the plant site and for transmission lines l over Doran Beach to the mainland. Efforts are being made to obtain Corps of Engineers approval for this.

PC and E would build the road and give it to the j County.for maintanaama. In return PG and E would /

get easements for the 11 ass.)

Scott summarised his testinsmy by saying the, state wished to rule en the size of screening for the water intake (previously done at amether ~

PGE plant); and to have FGE arrange access te various areas oo the 1 Company property on Bodega Esads asessa the n.Lxtus charseteristies of ocean unter for the setfalls .eurvey marias ecology; and conduct a ce11estion of marine organism for a two-year l period prior to opera.

tions.

J. Dean Worthington, Chief Civil Engineer for.705 una the first wit- o e mass. Es said applimateam to AEC for a osastrustion pommit would be g made meat July or desmet, and said 70E empested to purchase by condem y nation a 64-sere trast'(sweed by Mrs. ance=ay) merth of present 70E 4 holdings. Be indicated the tract was neces'sary.to souply with pro-posed ABC site criteria. G

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selection of Sodega Mead was based on studies made since 1952 to establish power generating sites in the north Bay Area to meet increasing residential and industrial demands for electric energy.

He described the proposed plant as having 1,008 Mil thermal capacity and_ said although they counted on 325 I6i electric output, he was hopeful the plant could produce about 350 kW on .the basis of General Electric estimates. Be noted the site was suitable for four units.

Consultations on the earthquakes stresses and patterns in the area and on suitable construction was discussed with Don Tocher, University of Califormis seismologist; Dr. William quaidag and Dr. George W.

Hauser, Cal Tech structural engineer.

Test berings have been made and criteria established for plaat con-struction. The foundation would be in solid granite and the proximity of the gan Andreas fault sona was not considered hasardous.

Power frem Bodess usuid be transmitted 32 miles to Ignacio substat&on on the mainland. Total plant cost was estimated as of May,1961, at

$64,138,000. It was conceded that the cost of materials, labor and design changes and improvements might increase the total. Fuel costs.

however, were considered by Worthington as likely to be stable or possibly cheaper in,the future.

In explaiming the " equilibrium core" listed by PGE in the exhibits

' '~ bearing on costs, Usethington testified this really meant the second core. Es stated the first core was not typical of succeeding cores which usuld have louer enrichment and that the second would be more typical of cores used later. He testified 90 percent of capacity was ,

expected. He explained "use charges" were those charged by the AEC ~

for fuel and stated that $9.50 per gram of Pu for buy-back was listed because the AEcoguaranteed price of $30/ gram expires in 1963 In describing the factor of 90 percent of capacity expected from the reactor, Berthington claimed reactors were relatively sisyle compared with complex conventional systems.. Werthington stated conventional foal costs were based on eit at $2.35/ barrel. Es forecesF a further decrease in costs for nuclear plants both for capital costs and fuel oests and, conceding that capital costs weeld also be reduced for ceaventional. plants, he asserted that fossil fuels were likely to as up, offsetting the capital cost improvement and that the advantage would be increastagly in. favor of nuclear plants in the future.

At this point public witnesses were permitted to testify, many of them representing county,public and private organizations in support of the application. Newever, 3. Imaart Cedarberg, attorney for Mrs. Gaffney

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i I Joseph Fouchard -5 gAn10TA8 l l (landowner at Bodess) voiced opposition en the grounds the plant would I ruin the scenic value of Bodega Head, would endanger the comunanity l and defiste rest estate values, lower the water level for yachting and boating, and that plant and transmission'linas would be unsightly. He suggested use of an alternate site in Napa County (exact location not given). i Worthington, resuming the stand, in reply te questions said the intake for water would be on tidelands and that perusission had been requested to build intake facilities. Access,.Worthington said, would be par-- l . mitted on the planned. road as far as the " boundary area", but AEC will  ! have something to say about this. But, Worthington said, he did not' l expect AEC to block such access. The main powerplant area womid be closed'to the public as are conventional plants. It was noted here that PGE would be guided by ABC standards to be-published later. It would be Company policy to open lands adjacent to plants (as done in the amountain' country) after operating experience, and provided restrictions permitted such opening. It was indicated i that PGE would be willing to cooperate in meking access to some areas of  ! the Head available. . 1 Worthington, replying to questions, said a moottoring program was planned , of fish and wildlife as well as the ocean and a study of marine ecology I and ocean currents would be made. W~ There was a considerable amount of discussion en interties with genthern 1 i Cal gdison and the proposed Canadian pool and the Northwest intertie l which do not bear directly on the nuclear plant. ' In addition to furnishing north Bay Areas, during off-peak perioda Bodega Bay would be used to feed the PGE systems, Worthington said. Earthquake and seismic effects were diseussed in detail. Briefly, Wor

  • Mag *- stated that PGE provides a 20 percent factor in construc-tion for conventional power plants, but for Bodess Bay expected to have a 33 y rcent. factor for the main buildings related to the plant except for the reactor itself,which would be allowed a 50 percent factor..

The site _is one mile from the saa Andreas fault p . Tocher and quates are preparing geological and ==4==8m reports on the site. Morthington stated that even at 15 miles from the fault seas, effects would be only slightly less than these te be espected at the present site. , Willard M. Nutting, Senior Mechanical Basineer for PGE, described the operation of a nuclear reactor and listed the boiling water reactors operating, building er planned. In his description of the detailed I ,j '" ! % , 5 7 3 T += .,s . gyyTfyty'- gy"Qgg,J*gp ~N"?"*'M"N

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Joseph Fouchard  ; i components he noted that.the reactor vessel was designed with an in - side diameter of 181 inches, height of 51 feet, 6 inches, and thaickne of 7 inches. Total weight - 386 tons.. He estimated fuel' replacement shut-down time at 7'to 10 days. He said the pressure suppression con tainment for Bodega would be similar to Bumboldt Bay.: He answered detailed questions about the. types of waste, their handling and the types.of. radionuclides involved. All AEC regulations would be com-- plied with, he said, j In summary, high level westes would move with used fuel ela= mats.to. processing plantag solid wastes to be handled by ABC-licensed dispeesi firmag liquide to be retained, domineralised and concentrated for disposal in compliance with AEC and Morth Coast Po11stion Control Board regulations; gases to be discharged to the stack under control - with offsite monitoring. l l Es acted personest would be trained and operators licensed by the AEC. i So far 3170E operators have been licensed by AEC Vallecitos, ha said. He emphasised that nothing Scovel or untried" would be' placed in ' the Bodega plant. Sampling operations would be continued after operations begin in compliance with ABC, State Baalth and Pollution Control Board i requirements. Be described ABC licenstag requirements and review. J Dr. Ernest Salo, lhamboldt State College, Associate- Professor of Fisherias, and graduate of the University of Washington who worked under Seymour and Donaldson at the Radistica Biology Lab, and in the Department of '  ! Oceanography at Mashington, testified no significant effects could be l expected from water discharged into the sea. He has made preliminary-current surveys and taken some samples fromathe area, but thorough studies are espected two years prior to an operating data, q j Be estimated that water discharged would total 150 curies of natural radiomativity sammally while conta=4ama's added by the plant would total SO curies a year. Of the. radionuclides carded by tha. water 69 peroemt i would be congesed of magnesium-56 with extremely short half-life. There is no indication ha said of any area in the ocean receiving een one-thessandth or.sven eastea-thousandth of ===4- paraissable levels from the 250,000 gallon / minute discharge. i Thermal effects would cause no changes of biological significance, ] Sale said, estiasting that three-tenths to four-tenths of one degree weeld be the rise eaused by the outfall, and that natural temperature i fimetuations are mesh greater in the area. l

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                                   ,       on cross-eman, Salo e said there would be no significant deleterious effects en fish, shellfish or organisms and no population effects or deaths to any organisms as a result of the outfall. He' had not made any calculations for a possible 1,000,000 gallon /minuta discharge, if four units were emplaced at Bodega.

He referred to studies on the Columbia River and by the United Kingdom La giving results of previous emperience with the discharge of water

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Worthington,'under cross-exam, said PGE now ouas 160 acres at Bodega for which it paid about $60,000. 1 Worthington also stated that he espected a plaat cost of 5.7 mills /kwh' I from the first oore. Asked about future nuclear reacters at Bodega, Worthington said if built tedey they would ses the same type, but expect future improvements which may make the proposed reactors very different in design from the unit proposed for construction. He said that insurance of $60,000,000 would be taken out for property. damage; $60,000,000 for liability and that AEC indamntty went up to

                                         $500,000,000.

There were no specific records,for earthquakes at Bodega, Worthington said, but 1906 was the most severe.. He conceded PGE was considering a different design from,that proposed in the application, but that "this is not fira". Nutting, in reply to staff questions ou qualmoffects, said there was not a specific scram for earthquakes. The site he said meets the pro-posed AEC site criteria regulation. During questions on health and safety, Nutting said PGE had modified some of its studies being conducted at Busholdt any to include suggestions from the State Realth Department and would also provide that ' ,:-: t opportunity for review of Bodaga Bay plans. Grendon, State Atomic Energy Coordinates, testified for the plant and noted that as a result of studies made by his office it is expected that nuclear fuels will bosome cheaper while fossil fuels in future da-=daa will increase La price and mitimately became short in supply. He made an intagesttag observatten to the effect that " Federal law attempts to cidrify that reester operations are in the federal dammina . Neuever, he insisted that California was 1sterested in and responsible for the environment, and that State law requires adequate monitoring subject to the State Esaith Departasst. Ne said be espected to continus R. Kb .a

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cies - State, local and federal - were concerned with safety. He referred to establistument of an advisory committes two years ago which found preoperational monitoring necessary for two years prior to reactor-operation to establish base Linas to determine any effects of the opera-tion. At this point Eubanks (part-time art student) asked whether the plutonium returned to AEC would be "used for bombst" This was. objected to by l

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(I have additional notas en details of costs given by PGE witnessas if desired by recipients of this meno.) ) cc: dbert Imwenstein, DL and R, Eqs (w/ene)  ! E. C. Shuto, Manager, SAN (w/ enc) ' R. W. Smith, Dir., Compliance Region V C. F. Helfrich, Dir., Isactor Div., SAN I 1 1 l I i i i 1 i 4 I e i a 1 l i 4 ..

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