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Official Transcript of Proceedings
 
NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION
 
Title:  Davis-Besse License Renewal    Public Meeting - Afternoon Session
 
Docket Number: (n/a)
 
Location:  Port Clinton, Ohio
 
Date:  Thursday, November 4, 2010
 
Work Order No.: NRC-524 Pages 1-46
 
NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC. Court Reporters and Transcribers 1323 Rhode Island Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20005 (202) 234-4433
 
NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS ENVIRONMENTAL SCOPING
 
PROCESS FOR DAVIS-BESSE NUCLEAR STATION
 
LICENSE RENEWAL APPLICATION
 
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THURSDAY AFTERNOON SESSION
 
NOVEMBER 4, 2010
 
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PORT CLINTON, OHIO
 
The Public Meeting convened at Camp Perry Lodging
 
and Conference Center, Camp Perry Military Reservation, 1000 Lawrence Road, Port Clinton, Ohio.
 
Present on behalf of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
 
RICHARD BARKLEY
 
DAVID WRONA
 
BRIAN HARRIS
 
PAULA COOPER
 
SCOTT BURNELL
 
ALLAN BAKER
 
APRIL BEHAULT
 
JOHN RUTKOWSKI
 
DAN KIMBLE
 
ADAM WILSON NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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Overview of License Renewal Process, Brian Harris . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
 
Overview of Environmental Review Process, Paula Cooper . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12
 
Closing Comments, Davis Wrona . . . . . . . . . 45
 
Adjourn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
 
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NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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1:30 p.m.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    My name is Richard Barkley.
 
I'm the meeting facilitator for the meeting this
 
afternoon, and I'm very pleased to see we have a good
 
turnout this afternoon. We'll probably have a larger
 
turnout this evening for this meeting. This is on the
 
Environmental Impact Statement for Davis-Besse's license
 
renewal request.
 
And, what I'm going to do is go over to few
 
ground rules of how we conduct this public meeting. We
 
want to get your comments in and everyone gets a fair
 
share of time and the Court Reporter can actually
 
clearly hear your remarks.
 
First of all, if you would like to speak, please sign up on the yellow card up at the front. We
 
have at least ten people who want to speak at this point
 
in time. So, I will call you in the specific order to
 
go through and make sure we cover all the groups that
 
are interested in speaking.
 
To be fair to everyone, please limit your
 
remarks to a reasonable period of time. I normally ask
 
people to keep their remarks to five minutes. Since we
 
only have about ten speakers, we can give you a little NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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as we go through.
 
In the interest of efficiency, I will call
 
three people to come up and speak. That seems to be the
 
most efficient, so the first one will come to the
 
microphone, whichever one you feel comfortable at. You
 
can speak from this microphone or you can speak from the
 
podium. And, after we go through three, I will call
 
another three, so you have some time to prepare and are
 
ready to make your remarks.
 
I alternate typically between elected
 
officials and members of the public. That gives the
 
elected officials a chance to speak early but also
 
allows the public a chance to speak earlier as well.
 
So, we'll alternate back and forth.
 
Next item, please silence your cell phones
 
if you have one with you. Thank you very much. Again, please speak clearly into the microphone when you're
 
speaking because we do have a Court Reporter to record
 
these remarks, so we want to make sure we accurately
 
recover all your remarks. If you have it in a written
 
format, you can also turn those in to us as well.
 
I would ask in the interest of courtesy that
 
you do not interrupt the speaker when you're talking and NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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Again, written comments are welcome. If you
 
don't want to come to the microphone, you can turn in
 
written comments, and then the presenters here today
 
will talk to you about how you can formally turn in
 
written comments by mail between now and the latter part
 
of the month.
 
And, finally, if you have any questions or
 
concerns regarding how this meeting is being conducted, please come and see me. I will be glad to work through
 
any issues you may have.
 
I would like to introduce the NRC staff in
 
attendance at this meeting.
 
First, Dave Wrona is a Branch Chief from the
 
License Renewal Branch.
 
Secondly, Brian Harris, who is the Safety
 
Project Manager from NLR who will be making a
 
presentation coming up.
 
Paula Cooper, who is the Environmental
 
Project Manager from NLR, and she will also be making a
 
presentation this afternoon.
 
Scott Burnell, the Public Affairs Officer
 
from our headquarters office.
 
Allan Barker, the Region III State Liaison
 
Officer.
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John Rutkowski, he's the Senior Resident
 
Inspector at Davis-Besse, and Dave Kimble who I believe
 
will be replacing him in the near term.
 
And, finally, Adam Wilson, who is the
 
resident inspector.
 
At this point in time, I would like to turn
 
the meeting over to Brian Harris to make his
 
presentation.
 
MR. HARRIS:    Good afternoon. My name is
 
Brian Harris, and I would like to thank you all for
 
coming out to this public information session today.
 
I'm NRC's Project Manager in charge of the Davis-Besse
 
license renewal application for Davis-Besse.
 
This meeting serves two purposes:  To explain
 
the license renewal process and to gather your comments
 
on the environmental scoping. This slide points out two
 
parts of the meeting where you can get involved. We'll
 
have a question and answer session on the license
 
renewal process, and later we'll officially record your
 
environmental scoping comments.
 
Next slide, please. So, our first topic on
 
the agenda is the license renewal process overview. As
 
I said earlier, we're here to help you understand the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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review.
 
So, before I get into the discussion of the
 
license renewal process, I would like to take a minute
 
to tell you about NRC, what we do and what our mission
 
is. We protect the public health and safety, promote
 
common defense and security and protect the environment
 
from radioactive materials that are used for civilian
 
purposes.
 
We accomplish this mission by establishing
 
rules and regulations, conducting inspections, issuing
 
enforcement actions, assessing licensing performance, and evaluating operating experience for nuclear plants
 
across the country and around the globe.
 
So, one of the ways that we protect public
 
health and safety is through our ongoing oversight of
 
nuclear power plants. The NRC's power plant oversight
 
covers topics such as emergency planning, security and
 
current safety performance every day through our
 
resident inspectors and additional staff at our Regional
 
Headquarters Offices.
 
For example, the NRC continues to evaluate
 
how First Energy is addressing the emergency
 
preparedness issue at Davis-Besse. The Agency issues a NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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planning and current performance every day, we do not
 
reevaluate these issues in license renewal.
 
Another example of ongoing oversight is the
 
recent NRC mandated inspection of Davis-Besse's reactor
 
vessel head which reveal cracks in nozzles on the head.
 
While the cracks do not affect safe plant operation, the
 
NRC oversaw First Energy's repairs of the head and
 
ensured that the plant did everything necessary to keep
 
the plant operating safely before Davis-Besse started
 
this summer.
 
The NRC will continue to oversee these sorts
 
of inspection, maintenance and repair activities for
 
every operating plant regardless of whether the plant
 
has entered a new license period.
 
So, the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Station was
 
originally licensed on April 22, 1977. The Atomic
 
Energy Act authorizes the NRC to grant a 40-year
 
operating license to nuclear power reactors. The plant
 
has been operating for 32 years under its 40-year
 
license, and Congress decided on the 40-year term for
 
economic considerations and antitrust factors, not on
 
safety or technical limitations. If the license is
 
renewed, it will then be valid until April 2037.
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These reviews evaluate separate aspects of the license
 
renewal application. The safety review focuses on the
 
aging of components and structures that the NRC deems
 
important to plant safety.
 
The staff's main objective is to ensure the
 
applicant can adequately manage the effects of aging on
 
the plant and will document results of our safety review
 
in our safety evaluation report, or SER.
 
For the environmental review, the staff
 
considers, evaluates and describes the environmental
 
impacts of operating the plant for an additional
 
20 years. The objective of the review is to determine
 
if the environmental impacts of the license renewal are
 
so great that license renewal would not become a
 
reasonable option. The staff prepares an Environmental
 
Impact Statement, or EIS, to document its environmental
 
review.
 
So, this diagram lays out the two review
 
paths as well as three other inputs to the Commission's
 
decision on whether or not to renew an operating
 
license, and one of their considerations is an
 
independent review of the staff's safety report by the
 
Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards, or ACRS.
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Commission. Now, after reviewing the application, the
 
safety evaluation report and inspection findings, the
 
ACRS reports their findings and recommendations directly
 
to the Commission.
 
Hearings may also be conducted if interested
 
stakeholders submit concerns or contentions, and their
 
request for a hearing is granted. The Commission
 
considers the outcome of the hearing process in its
 
decision on whether or not to issue a new operating
 
license.
 
As part of the environmental review, the
 
staff consults with local, state, federal and travel
 
officials.
 
Now, I'm going to describe the license
 
renewal process in a little more detail with the safety
 
review, and Ms. Cooper will describe the environmental
 
review later.
 
So, the regulations governing a license
 
renewal are based on two principles:  The first
 
principle is that the current regulations ensure that
 
the current licensing basis for all operating plants
 
provide and maintain an acceptable level of safety.
 
The second principle is that the plant's NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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applies under the current license will apply to a
 
renewed license. In addition, a renewed license will
 
include conditions that must be met to ensure aging is
 
adequately managed so that the plant's current licensing
 
basis is maintained during the extended period of
 
operation.
 
The staff performs rigorous reviews of the
 
applicant's application and supporting documents, and
 
this review includes evaluating new and existing
 
programs and surveillance activities to determine
 
whether the effects of aging concerning plant structures
 
and components will be adequately monitored and managed.
 
The safety review also includes on site
 
audits to verify the applicant's technical basis and to
 
verify and confirm that the application accurately
 
describes the applicant's aging management programs and
 
activities. The staff documents the basis and
 
conclusions of its review in a public safety evaluation
 
report.
 
In addition, a team of specialized inspectors
 
travel to the site to verify that aging management
 
programs are being implemented, modified or planned
 
consistent with the license renewal application.
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and the staff's safety evaluation report before making a
 
recommendation to the Commission regarding a proposed
 
action to a renewed operating license.
 
So, that concludes the safety review, and
 
I'll now hand it over to Ms. Paula Cooper.
 
MS. COOPER:    Good afternoon. My name is
 
Paula Cooper. I'm the NRC's Environmental Project
 
Manager for Davis-Besse, and as Brian Harris described
 
previously in the safety review, I'm going to do the
 
bottom leg of the diagram and do the environmental
 
review.
 
The environmental review follows guidelines
 
set by the National Environmental Policy Act, also
 
referred to as NEPA. NEPA provides the basic
 
architectural review format for federal environmental
 
reviews requiring a systematic approach and advising the
 
potential impact of major federal action.
 
At the NRC, the license renewal application
 
is classified as a major federal action. The
 
environmental review considers the impact of the
 
proposed action and any mitigation for those impacts be
 
considered to be significant. We consider alternatives
 
to proposed action, even the impacts associated with not NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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As you can see, you have several
 
opportunities to participate in the license renewal
 
process. A Federal Register notice and press release
 
will be issued for most of these opportunities. The
 
environmental review begins today with the scoping
 
activities that reveal important issues that need to be
 
analyzed. During the scoping, we want your comments on
 
the scope of the environmental review.
 
The public input is the second half of our
 
meeting today and will be discussed later in this
 
session.
 
After studying the range of environmental
 
impact, we will publish a draft Environmental Impact
 
Statement for public comment. At that time, we will
 
come back and have another public meeting and issue and
 
request your comments on that draft. Once we collect
 
your comments on that draft, we will then issue our
 
final Environmental Impact Statement.
 
The opportunity for a hearing permits those
 
who are directly affected by the licensing
 
qualification. A hearing will be conducted by the panel
 
of administrative law judges who are called the Atomic
 
Safety and Licensing Board, also referred to as the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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This is the important milestone to the
 
license renewal application process. The notice of
 
opportunity for hearing was published on October 25th, followed by the notice of intent for hearing, the EIS, and conduct scoping on October 29th.
 
The period for making comments or contentions
 
for a hearing closes on December 27th. If you have
 
comments regarding the environmental review, if you
 
would like to see a copy of today's meeting, you will
 
have the opportunity to do so until December 27th as
 
well.
 
In summary, before deciding to issue a
 
renewed operating license, the Commission considers the
 
following factors:
 
The staff safety review which is documented
 
in the safety evaluation report, the staff environmental
 
review which is documented in the Environmental Impact
 
Statement, NRC's findings and conclusions from the
 
sections, and the recommendation by the committee on
 
reactor safeguards, these hearings.
 
If a hearing is conducted, the absence of
 
that process is also taken into consideration. The
 
typical time frame for renewing a renewed license is
 
22 months for review, provided that no hearing is NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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We have made available hard copies of the
 
license renewal application at the (indiscernible)
 
public library and the Toledo Lucas County Public
 
Library. When the draft Environmental Impact Statement
 
is available, it will also be available at those
 
libraries as well.
 
Several documents have been previously
 
gathered and can be found on the CD located on the table
 
here to my right. They include the generic
 
Environmental Impact Statement, the license renewal
 
application, the three Federal Registers that have been
 
published to date and a copy of the frequently-asked
 
questions for license renewal. You can also access all
 
these documents on the NRC website. The LRA can be
 
found on the website as well.
 
For information relating to the scoping
 
comments, you can review the regulations on site and
 
additionally to keep informed on aspects related to the
 
NRC at the website.
 
This concludes this presentation, and I'll
 
turn it back over to the facilitator.
 
Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you. At this point in NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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is not an opportunity for you to provide comments on the
 
Environmental Impact Statement but, rather, an
 
opportunity for you to ask questions regarding this
 
process of the staff. If you have any questions, please
 
go ahead and move to the center microphone and staff
 
will answer them; and if not, we'll move into the
 
comment period.
 
                                    (No Response)
 
MR. BARKLEY:      No questions?  Okay, how
 
about we move right into the comment period then.
 
MS. COOPER:      All right, previously, we
 
had presented the license renewal process, and now we're
 
going on to the second stage of the presentation and
 
that's the environmental scoping.
 
This completes the previous presentation, and
 
I would like to highlight that we're on the second step
 
followed by the public scoping meeting.
 
Scoping meetings started on October 29th with
 
the notice of intent to prepare an EIS and to conduct
 
scoping was published.
 
In general, we were looking for sources of
 
information about the environmental impact of continued
 
operations at Davis-Besse that we should consider when NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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You can assist us in that process by telling
 
us, for example, what aspect of your local community we
 
should focus on, what local environment and economic
 
aspect that the NRC should examine during our
 
environmental review and what reasonable alternatives
 
are most appropriate for the area.
 
These are just some examples of the input
 
we're look for, and they represent the kind of
 
information we are seeking through the environmental
 
scoping process. Your comments today should be helpful
 
in providing insight of this nature.
 
Through the environmental review, the NRC has
 
established a team of staff and contractors who are
 
experts in various fields and disciplines. This slide
 
gives you an idea of the various areas we're looking at
 
during the environmental review. They include
 
terrestrial and aquatic policies, environmental justice, hydrology and radiation.
 
For license renewal review, NRC's
 
environmental staff looks at a wide range of impact. We
 
consult with various federal, state and local officials
 
as well as leaders in Indian nations, gathering
 
pertinent information from these sources ensuring that
 
it is considered in our analysis. Examples include the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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This slide represents the different methods
 
for the public's scoping comments. It shows how to
 
mail, fax and submit through the internet on
 
regulations. The scoping comments are reviewed by
 
December 27, 2010. In general, we are looking for
 
information about the environmental impact from
 
continued operation of Davis-Besse.
 
We know you are the experts in your community
 
so your comments today will ensure a thorough review of
 
the environmental, social and economic issues the NRC
 
should examine during our environmental review and what
 
reasonable alternatives are most appropriate for this
 
region.
 
You are the primacy contacts for the NRC for
 
the license renewals for Davis-Besse, the Project
 
Manager, Brian Harris, and myself. If you have any
 
questions about today's meeting, we will be around to
 
answer questions following the meeting. If you have
 
questions after you leave today, you're more than
 
welcome to contact any one of us.
 
This concludes my presentation. Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Okay, thank you.
 
The first three people I would like to call NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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Ottawa County EMA.
 
If you would like to speak from this
 
microphone, that would be fine. Go ahead and lead
 
off.
 
MR. STAHL:    Thanks, Mark.
 
Good afternoon. My name is Mark Stahl, and
 
I'm the President of Ottawa County Commissioners.
 
Ottawa County is successful because we surround
 
ourselves with successful community partners, and
 
Davis-Besse is one of those community partners, who we
 
look very favorably upon.
 
You will hear from some the other agencies, the nonprofits, the contributions that you make back to
 
our community helps us tremendously, and we greatly
 
appreciate that.
 
We also as Commissioners appreciate our NRC
 
partnership. We have had conversations with you, I
 
know, through the years, and we appreciate those
 
unbiased conversations that we've had in regard to
 
Davis-Besse.
 
So, I will let these two gentlemen fill you
 
in, but as President of the the Ottawa County
 
Commissioners, I'm here to offer our support to you, NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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Thank you.
 
MR. WITT:    Thanks, Mark. I appreciate you
 
putting Mark before Fred and I because he's our boss.
 
I'm Jere Witt. Many of you know me. I'm County
 
Administrator for Ottawa County. I've been with the
 
County for 32 years, and ironically when I looked at the
 
dates on there, I started with the County on July 20, 1978, and I believe the plant began operating in on July
 
31, 1978. So, we're pretty close on our birth dates
 
there.
 
I've been involved, as I said earlier, many
 
years with Davis-Besse and especially within the last
 
five to ten years. I was part of the restart overview
 
panel that worked for two years on the head issues. I
 
got my nuclear degree during that two years. I much
 
appreciated, and I really got a better feeling for
 
Davis-Besse and the nuclear industry.
 
I currently serve on the Company Nuclear
 
Review Board to ensure that Davis-Besse continues to
 
operate safely, and there's a bunch of nuclear experts
 
on there and then there's me, but it's easy for me a use
 
their expertise to see if Davis-Besse operates safely, and I'm happy to say that every time we've met, we have
 
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I attend and participate in the NRC quarterly
 
exit meetings of Davis-Besse, and those have been
 
another way for Ottawa County to keep informed on what's
 
going on with Davis-Besse.
 
I receive many, many, many more than I really
 
want to see daily e-mails from the plant, but the most
 
important one is the morning e-mail that I get every
 
morning that tells the current status of the plant and
 
the issues that are going on, and it's an easy way for
 
me to keep up daily. I'm kept informed by plant
 
management. I think I get calls in the middle of the
 
night any time there is an issue, and we appreciate that
 
because it's showing their concern that Ottawa County is
 
able to keep inform.
 
As Mark mentioned, we work closely with the
 
NRC. We've been meeting with them quarterly just to
 
bring us up to speed, hear what's going on at
 
Davis-Besse, and get the NRC's side of that.
 
I actually have a vested interest in the
 
plant. I own property that abuts the plant, and it's
 
very important to me that they keep that plant operating
 
safely. I have a cottage there that my -- when the head
 
incident happened, my grandchildren and their mother and
 
dad were living there, and my wife kept asking me if I NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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We continue to watch closely to see that the
 
plant does operate safely. I have personally witnessed
 
the transformation of the site personnel in the new
 
safety culture, and they continue to maintain that
 
culture, and I think that is one of the most important
 
things that any nuclear power plant has to do.
 
I believe that the people who work at
 
Davis-Besse and have witnessed how they challenge each
 
other for safe plant operation. I don't think that was
 
necessarily always true years ago, but today they do, in
 
fact, and at many of my visits out there, I have
 
witnessed how they challenge each other.
 
Many of the Davis-Besse employees live in the
 
community and are important assets to Ottawa County. I
 
think it's very important that the corporate structure
 
that's been put in place to oversee the operations of
 
Davis-Besse continue, and I think it's a good structure.
 
Davis-Besse has been a great asset to the
 
community and are very involved in Ottawa County. We in
 
Ottawa County will continue to watch and make sure the
 
plant operates safely, but through my past involvement, I have no concerns for the safety of Davis-Besse.
 
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license renewal.
 
Thank you very much.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you Jere.
 
Fred?
 
MR. PETERSEN:    Thank you. My name is Fred
 
Petersen. I'm the Director of the Ottawa County
 
Emergency Management Agency. I've been involved in the
 
EMA for 16 years and ten months.
 
I want to talk specifically about the Ottawa
 
County EMA's good working relationship with Davis-Besse
 
Power Station. Largely because of that relationship we
 
provide a lot of benefits.
 
All of our plans and procedures are thorough
 
and well maintained and are regularly exercised. Those
 
exercises are conducted specifically on the radiological
 
side biannually. So, every two years, FEMA comes in and
 
evaluates our performance plan to keep us in compliance.
 
Over the years that I have been associated
 
with the agency and even prior to that, we have had no
 
significant issue on our exercises, and they perform
 
very well.
 
Our emergency operation center and our risk
 
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We feel like we're very well prepared for
 
anything that happens here in the county, specifically
 
radiological rescue emergency preparedness. But, some
 
of the things that we do on the radiological side that
 
really benefit us are lot of spill-over benefits on
 
preparedness work review at Davis-Besse. Those would
 
include, we have a great relationship with our fire, EMS, law enforcement, private response orientation in
 
the county, and that's because we regularly exercise
 
training and work with them.
 
So, all the events that have happened in the
 
county, we have been very successful with our response, and a lot of that is because of everything we do with
 
Davis-Besse, and how it helps with our relationship.
 
An example of that would be the tornado this
 
past June. Everyone that was involved had some sort of
 
role in the radiological response program. A lot of the
 
response procedures that we use for Davis-Besse are very
 
applicable to some of the things that we had to do like
 
HAZMAT.
 
The tangible things that we have is because
 
of Davis-Besse. One of the things that is very NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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plant, and is available to us for any number of outdoor
 
notifications that need to be relayed; specifically, weather, very, very important to the community.
 
We also do a brochure calendar for our
 
particular State of Ohio, Lucas County, that goes to all
 
of our residents and provides them a plethora of
 
information about all types of emergency response and
 
what they can do in response to tornadoes, floods, HAZMAT and radiological emergency.
 
So, really, all this adds up to the fact that
 
our relationship in Ottawa County with Davis-Besse is a
 
benefit to the residents of Ottawa County.
 
Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:  Thank you.
 
The next three people I would like to call
 
are:  Chris Galvin of the United Way; followed by Jackie
 
VanTress of OPEIU, Local 19; and following, Kimberly
 
Kaufman of the Black Swamp Bird Observatory.
 
Thank you.
 
MS. GALVIN:    I'm Chris Galvin, Director of
 
the United Way in Ottawa County. The Davis-Besse
 
Nuclear Power Station and on a larger scale the First
 
Energy Corporation are a tremendous community partner to NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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of Greater Toledo which serves Ottawa, Wood and Lucas
 
Counties. 3.1 Million came from corporate gifts, 10.4
 
Million from its incredibly generous employees.
 
First Energy has also earned United Way's
 
Pillar Award each year since at least 1992. Our data
 
doesn't go back any further than that. It seems they
 
consistently give more than a hundred thousand dollars
 
each year to the Greater Toledo campaign.
 
Not only does this community consistently get
 
solid financial support from First Energy and its
 
employees, but executive leadership has also
 
demonstrated exceptional personal commitment to our
 
work.
 
In 1993, Don Saunders chaired the local
 
United Way campaign, raising 12.5 Million Dollars.
 
In 2005, Jim Murray, now retired, but
 
formerly First Energy President of Ohio Operations, chaired the local United Way campaign. Under Mr.
 
Murray's leadership, the campaign raised 13.3 Million
 
Dollars. We also presented Mr. Murray with our
 
Prestigious Caring Award in 2006 for demonstrating value
 
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In 2009, Trent Smith, Regional President of
 
Toledo Edison First Energy, became chairman of the
 
United Way of Greater Toledo's Board of Trustees and has
 
drawn to a close on his second year of service. Mr.
 
Smith has gone above and beyond the level of service, dedication and commitment we typically see from board
 
chairs. He has become involved in virtually ever level
 
of our work, digging in and helping find real solutions.
 
In addition to these executive leaders, numerous upper-level management have supported United
 
Way by using their voice and relationships to help
 
secure financial and volunteer support as well as
 
advocating on behalf of the United Way and the Northwest
 
Ohio Region.
 
In addition to Don Saunders, Jim Murray and
 
Trent Smith, some of the stand-out employees include
 
Debbie Paul, Mike Adams, and Mel Lomack. Additionally, in the 1990's Jennifer Schreiber served five years as
 
the chair of our community impact cabinet, the highest
 
level of community impact volunteers who decide how
 
money is allocated in this community. Also joining her
 
on the cabinet was Jenny Ammadon. Both are now retired.
 
First Energy also demonstrates incredible
 
commitment to the communities through sponsorships and/
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In 1993 and 1994, Davis-Besse sponsored our
 
loaned executive program. Jim Ferris, now retired from
 
Davis-Besse, was the loaned executive in those
 
two years. First Energy has also sponsored loaned
 
executives over the years, from 1996 continuing for
 
11 years.
 
Employees consistently contribute to and
 
participate in Stamp Out Hunger and/or Scouting for Food
 
efforts each year. They were a major sponsor of our
 
Family Food Fund in 2008.
 
First Energy was the sponsor of our Community
 
Building event in 2005, and was the initiator and
 
sponsor of the Veterans Appreciation Event in 2006, which continued until 2009.
 
Davis-Besse and First Energy are a valued
 
community partner, both philanthropically and
 
economically. They have been incredible contributors to
 
our community over the past 20 years, and we only hope
 
that this will continue for at least another 20 years.
 
Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you, Chris.
 
Jackie?
 
MS. VANTRESS:    Good afternoon. My name is
 
Jackie VanTress, and I am representing OPEIU, Local 19.
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support staff at Davis-Besse.
 
On behalf of the Union, I would like to voice
 
our support in this public meeting. A renewal of this
 
license will not only promote and maintain employment
 
for our members who live and shop and send their
 
children to school in that area, but it will also assure
 
the delivery of reliable electric service to our
 
customers.
 
Research has shown that nuclear power is
 
clean, is efficient and produces more energy at a lower
 
cost than any other means of generation. So, it is
 
important that we keep this plant in operation.
 
Local 19 is proud of the safety record and
 
operations at Davis-Besse as well as the work we do here
 
and the service we provide to the public. OPEIU, Local
 
19, would like to continue to be a part of the team for
 
at least the next 20 years.
 
Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:  Thank you, Jackie.
 
MS. KAUFMAN:  Good afternoon everybody. My
 
name is Kimberly Kaufman, and I'm the Executive Director
 
of Black Swamp Bird Observatory, and while I understand
 
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My organization represents a somewhat unique
 
marriage, if you will, between a conservation
 
organization and a nuclear power plant. The general
 
public and, of course, all of you in the room are
 
certainly familiar with the fact that the nuclear power
 
plant resides in this part of Ottawa County, but very
 
few are actually aware that the power plant co-exists
 
with the thriving marsh that just sort of forms a hub
 
around the power plant.
 
Our organization has been conducting
 
migratory bird regions in this area for more than
 
20 years, and we really take pride in this marriage, and
 
we work hard like a good spouse to maintain it.
 
The marsh represents a critical stop-over
 
habitat for millions of migratory birds. And, in fact, many the world's leading bird experts consider this
 
marsh to be one of the most critical areas of stop-over
 
habitat in the entire western hemisphere.
 
The observatory in these 20 years have had
 
the full support of First Energy and Davis-Besse to
 
conduct this critical research and, in fact, during a
 
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in front of the power tank conducting this research
 
seven days a week for more than 20 years.
 
When the tragedy occurred on 9/11, we were
 
very concerned for, of course, the human tragedy, but
 
also concerned that our research would be interrupted.
 
And, in fact, Davis-Besse really fully understood the
 
importance of this research, and the importance of
 
conserving the integrity of the data set, and we didn't
 
miss a single day.
 
And, perhaps nothing else, no other event in
 
our history or recent history speaks more to how much
 
they have said they understand the critical role that
 
they play in local environmental and conservation issues
 
than that event.
 
So, based on our long-standing relationship, it is our opinion the Davis-Besse and First Energy have
 
not only worked to fully understand and fully support
 
the environmental issues for this local community, but
 
have also fully embraced the role that they play in all
 
of these issues.
 
So, it is opinion of the Black Swamp Bird
 
Observatory that the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Plant is
 
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Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you, Kimberly.
 
The next three people I would like to call
 
are Steven Inchak, who is representing Congressman
 
Dennis Kucinich; Beth Leggett with the American Red
 
Cross; and Brad Goetz of the IBEW, Local 1413.
 
Welcome, Steve.
 
MR. INCHAK:    Good afternoon.
 
Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My
 
name is Steve Inchak, and I work for Congressman
 
Kucinich, and what I'm going to do is simply read a
 
letter that the Congressman sent to the NRC chairman
 
today, and it reads as follows. And, I would also like
 
to ask that you consent to include the article
 
referenced in the official record, which I will provide
 
after I read the letter. It reads as follows:
 
                          "
 
==Dear Chairman Jackstow:==
First energy should
 
not be allowed to continue to operate Davis-Besse
 
after 2017. The people of Northeast Ohio are
 
familiar with First Energy's pathetic record in
 
protecting the safety of people who live in this
 
region. In a series of recent articles in the
 
Toledo Blade, which I am enclosing, the people of
 
our Region are reminded about the 12-minute NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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                      'potential catastrophe.'
 
                          "The people of our region are reminded of
 
Davis-Besse's reactor head 'weakened by years of
 
neglect' which nearly burst in 2002. The people
 
of our region are reminded that your predecessor, Harold Denton, stated in 2004 that these two
 
incidents represent 'the nuclear industry's
 
second and third lowest points after three-mile
 
Island.'
 
The people of our region are reminded that
 
First Energy employees tried to conceal the truth
 
of the 2002 incident from the Nuclear Regulatory
 
Agency, using tricks, 'schemes or devices' to
 
deliberately mislead your Agency.
 
                          "The people of our region are reminded that
 
David Pullman, Chief of the Justice Department's
 
Environmental Crime Section, said that First
 
Energy showed 'brazen arrogance' and 'breached the
 
public trust by withholding information about the
 
reactor head incident.
 
                          "The people are reminded that federal
 
prosecutors described the reactor head incident as
 
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                          "The people of our region are reminded that
 
First Energy paid a record fine of $33.45 Million
 
as a result of its actions. Of that amount, a
 
record $28 Million was a fine that First Energy
 
paid to 'avoid being criminally prosecuted for
 
lying to the government about the dangerous
 
condition of Davis-Besse's reactor head'
 
according to then US Attorney Greg White in 2006.
 
                          "While these fines were record fines at the
 
time they were imposed, I pointed out then that
 
the total fine was merely one percent of First
 
Energy's profit in 2004. While these fines may
 
have been record fines, they were a mere slap
 
on the wrist for First Energy and did nothing near
 
to what would have been necessary to change its
 
corporate culture.
 
                          "The corrosion of the reactor head started
 
because the Davis-Besse reactor head was made of
 
an alloy that would not withstand this kind of
 
corrosion. All of the other operators and nuclear
 
reactors with similar heads confronted the
 
situation by replacing their reactor heads with
 
new heads of a different alloy that would not be
 
subject to this kind of corrosion.
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another reactor head made of exactly the same
 
material.
 
                          "Six years later First Energy made us shocked
 
to discover that the corrosion was forming on that
 
inferior reactor head as well. Still, First
 
Energy had not learned its lesson. They wanted
 
to postpone the final replacement of the reactor
 
head with a new head made with a noncorroding
 
alloy until 2014.
 
                          "First Energy did not abandon that 2014
 
replacement date until the NRC threatened to
 
require Davis-Besse to shut down for an inspection
 
of the old reactor head every year until it was
 
replaced.
 
                          "Only as a result of that threat is First
 
Energy finally going to install a noncorroding
 
reactor head in 2011.
 
                          "Recent events suggest that First Energy
 
still has a corporate culture that is more focused
 
on costs and profits than on its safety.
 
                          "In 2009 Davis-Besse suffered an explosion
 
and fire in the power switching gear located
 
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                          "The evidence shows that this culture exists
 
in First Energy beyond its operation of
 
Davis-Besse. The NRC has been keeping a 'close
 
watch' on First Energy's operation at its
 
Perry reactor in Northeast Ohio as well. The NRC
 
remains concerned that Perry's safety culture is
 
not up to industry standards and has maintained a
 
close watch there for the last two years.
 
                          "Davis-Besse has been operating for
 
33 years. It has experienced two of the
 
industry's most serious nuclear incidents during
 
those years. This is not just bad luck. The
 
problems at Davis-Besse are a direct result of
 
First Energy's mismanagement and disregard for the
 
safety of people who live and work in the area and
 
who would be affected by any nuclear incident.
 
                          "The NRC should not grant a license to a
 
company that only operates safely while a
 
                      'special' inspection team is monitoring its
 
day-to-day activities and when a 'close watch' is
 
being kept on it.
 
                          "The NRC must continue to keep a close watch
 
on Davis-Besse between now and 2017 and then to
 
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of its current license.
 
                          "Sincerely, Dennis J. Kucinich, member of
 
congress."
Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you, Steven. We will
 
receive that letter into the record.
 
Beth?
 
MS. LEGGETT:    My name is Beth Leggett.
 
I'm the Director of the American Red Cross in Ottawa
 
County, part of the greater Toledo area chapter which is
 
a regional chapter for all of Northwest Ohio.
 
Through my position with the Red Cross, I
 
have seen cooperation that is envied between the
 
Emergency Management Agency and First Energy Davis-Besse
 
amongst the agency's first responders because of the
 
emergency preparedness that we do, we have been educated
 
to do over my 22 years in this position.
 
In Northwest Ohio, we're envied because of
 
the readiness that we have from the Red Cross standpoint
 
as well as from the whole county and the agencies that
 
are involved.
 
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we do to help us be ready and to protect the citizens of
 
Ottawa County.
 
We also because we have the mandate but we do
 
not receive government funds, I can speak to what Chris
 
Galvin of United Way said with regards to the money that
 
comes into the United Way. We are a United Way Agency, but even besides that, we have profited, the Red Cross
 
organization, from financial support on many levels from
 
First Energy and Davis-Besse as well as from the
 
volunteer aspect of the employees that respond through
 
the involvement of their families.
 
We have three or four blood drives that we
 
conduct at Davis-Besse that are very successful. We
 
have had a lot of leadership that has come out of the
 
Davis-Besse plant. Chuck Witt was a six-year chairman
 
for our local advisory board.
 
Currently, Terry Mortis, who is the Regional
 
Manager also of the Ottawa County District with First
 
Energy that provides a lot of leadership, a lot of
 
guidance to the Red Cross.
 
And, I'm going to take my Red Cross hat off, and I want to say that May 15, 1979, I became a new mom
 
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have been in it.
 
And, I sat here today and thought how far
 
I've come and how grateful I am to have had the
 
exposure, educationally through the community, through
 
my friends to see the Davis-Besse plant in a whole
 
different light. I was young in the Nineties. I'm a
 
little bit smarter now about how those things work, and
 
I ask hard questions and I sometimes like the answers, sometimes I'm not so sure about the answers, but I am
 
confident in the safety of the Davis-Besse plant and the
 
good that it does in the community for the people that
 
are involved.
 
Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:  Thank you, Beth.
 
Brad?
 
MR. GOETZ:    Good afternoon. My name is
 
Brad Goetz, and I'm the Business Manager of the
 
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, Local
 
1413. We represent security at Davis-Besse.
 
I just want to say that I'm a 26-year
 
employee at Davis-Besse, and over the years, the safety
 
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Davis-Besse over the years has provided a
 
good living, a good income for many residents of Ottawa
 
County and surrounding counties and especially now in a
 
time when unemployment is high.
 
We support the license renewal, and we ask
 
the NRC to support it as well.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you, Brad.
 
There are three people who are still signed
 
up to speak. If there are any other people who would
 
like a speak, please come and see me.
 
The last three people I would like to call up
 
are Ann Heckerd of the St. Vincent de Paul Food Pantry, Brian Boles of FENOC, and Larry Tscherne of IBEW, Local
 
245.
 
MS. HECKERD:    I am Ann Heckerd, the Food
 
Coordinator for the St. Vincent de Paul Food Pantry, and
 
I'm going to talk more on the economic aspect.
 
Davis-Besse has been very generous with their
 
donations to the Food Pantry in the past years. I also
 
would like to say that if it were to close, they may be
 
coming to our Food Pantry, and I would hate to see that.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you, Ann.
 
Brian?
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Our license renewal is a high priority item
 
for the state and for the county. We have had a number
 
of people working on this project now for well over a
 
year -- I see a number of those members are here -- to
 
put together a good product which we have submitted to
 
the NRC for their review.
 
It's a priority for us as a company because
 
Davis-Besse is a significant asset to our company. It
 
provides a large source of safe, reliable, environmental
 
friendly electricity to the surrounding area.
 
It is also important from a license renewal
 
aspect, 20 additional years of this asset to provide for
 
the employment opportunities for the local community, and many of our young engineers are graduating from
 
college today who wonder if nuclear power is a viable
 
future and a career path. It's important to know that
 
plants such as Davis-Besse and others are undergoing
 
renewal process have a future that they can depend on.
 
At Davis-Besse we do commit to ensuring the
 
public safety and protecting the environment. I'm sure
 
the review as we go through this license renewal process
 
will bear that out, and as evidenced by a number of the
 
speakers here, we do enjoy a very good relationship with NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:  Thank you, Brian.
 
Finally, Larry?
 
MR. TSCHERNE:    Thank you and good
 
afternoon. My name is Larry Tscherne. I'm the Business
 
Manager for IBEW, Local 245, the International
 
Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
 
We represent 22 counties here in the
 
Northwest Ohio, including Ottawa County here. But, in
 
addition to that, we also represent over 200 physical
 
workers at Davis-Besse that provide operations, maintenance, chemistry, radiation and protection of the
 
plant.
 
Now, what I'm going to talk about here
 
briefly isn't an opinion. It's a fact. I know that
 
from our members and the involvement that I have with
 
the plant, and not only with the plant but with senior
 
management. I'll go as far as the President of FENOC, Jim Lynch, who includes all the other business managers, the leadership of the local unions from the entire
 
FENOC. We meet on a regular basis a couple times a year
 
with the President. We share and open up any type of
 
discussion that we have. Nothing is held back, open NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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We do the same thing with the Plant Manager
 
at Davis-Besse, with the Maintenance Manager at
 
Davis-Besse.
 
We have worked over a number of issues, going
 
into outages, we have heard testimony here about the
 
head incident. Let me tell you the type of relationship
 
that we have been able to develop in the goal of working
 
together in a good labor-management relationship which
 
is important and critical, especially in this type of
 
industry.
 
During that incident, the plant, as you know, was down for, what, two years, maybe a little less.
 
Over that period of time and the hundreds of man hours
 
that were involved, multiple shift changes. You can't
 
imagine what we had to go through to get that plant back
 
up and running. We had four grievances filed; four out
 
of the entire period of time.
 
I only use that as an example because when we
 
meet, we continue to talk about the safety culture and
 
good maintenance practices which leads me to my next
 
point.
 
The safety culture, the dedication of the
 
employees, training and the craftsmanship are second to
 
none. Again, that's not an opinion. That's a fact. We NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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development of the training.
 
So, with that said, I would have to say that
 
First Energy has been open and honest in all of their
 
discussions with us. There's never been a time where I
 
haven't been able to call either Akron or the plant and
 
get an answer. It's just been terrific.
 
In addition to that, we not only work out
 
local issues but something more important or just as
 
important. We work together on issues in Washington
 
also through our labor management committee. A lot of
 
people probably aren't aware of that, but we do that
 
through our Land Pact Committee.
 
By extending the license here at Davis-Besse, it would continue to provide good clean power that's
 
critical. In addition to that also supporting the
 
much-needed tax base, not only to this area but to the
 
state, and I'm confident along with our members, that
 
IBEW, Local 245, that Davis-Besse will continue to be
 
safe, not only for the employees but also for the area.
 
Thank you.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thank you.
 
I'll make one last call for anyone who would
 
like to make a statement.
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MR. BARKLEY:    Hearing none, what I will do
 
is invite Mr. Wrona to come up and make some last-
 
minute remarks, and I very much appreciate your
 
cooperation in running this meeting very, very smoothly.
 
Thank you.
 
MR. WRONA:    Thank you, Rich.
 
I'm David Wrona. I'm the Branch Chief in the
 
NRC who is responsible for the Davis-Besse license
 
renewal. I have three or four sentences here at 2:20.
 
First of all, thank you for allowing us to
 
come out and briefly explain our process which we'll do
 
a detailed review of the application to ensure that it
 
meets all of our requirements.
 
Secondly, I would like to thank you for
 
participating in our environmental scoping process.
 
This meeting is not the only way for you to provide us
 
comments. As was shown on one of the slides, you can
 
mail in comments to us, you can provide them to us on
 
the website. We will take these through December 27th.
 
So, if you go home tonight and what somebody said
 
sparked some comments in your head, feel free to use
 
either one of those methods, all three of those methods
 
on that slide will get those comments to us.
 
And, lastly, every comment that we receive, NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS  1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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those fashions, we're going to address and make
 
publically available scope and summary report which we
 
will issue sometime in the future, but it will be on our
 
website. If you signed up through our list serve, you
 
will receive a copy of that scoping summary report.
 
So, with that, I would like a thank you for
 
coming in again.
 
MR. BARKLEY:    Thanks, Dave. This meeting
 
the adjourned. Thank you.
 
                          (Whereupon, the proceedings were concluded at
 
2:30 p.m.)}}

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Official Transcript of Proceedings

NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION

Title: Davis-Besse License Renewal Public Meeting - Afternoon Session

Docket Number: (n/a)

Location: Port Clinton, Ohio

Date: Thursday, November 4, 2010

Work Order No.: NRC-524 Pages 1-46

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NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS ENVIRONMENTAL SCOPING

PROCESS FOR DAVIS-BESSE NUCLEAR STATION

LICENSE RENEWAL APPLICATION

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THURSDAY AFTERNOON SESSION

NOVEMBER 4, 2010

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PORT CLINTON, OHIO

The Public Meeting convened at Camp Perry Lodging

and Conference Center, Camp Perry Military Reservation, 1000 Lawrence Road, Port Clinton, Ohio.

Present on behalf of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:

RICHARD BARKLEY

DAVID WRONA

BRIAN HARRIS

PAULA COOPER

SCOTT BURNELL

ALLAN BAKER

APRIL BEHAULT

JOHN RUTKOWSKI

DAN KIMBLE

ADAM WILSON NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 2 I N D E X Welcome and Introductions, Richard Barkley. . . 3

Overview of License Renewal Process, Brian Harris . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6

Overview of Environmental Review Process, Paula Cooper . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12

Closing Comments, Davis Wrona . . . . . . . . . 45

Adjourn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46

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1:30 p.m.

MR. BARKLEY: My name is Richard Barkley.

I'm the meeting facilitator for the meeting this

afternoon, and I'm very pleased to see we have a good

turnout this afternoon. We'll probably have a larger

turnout this evening for this meeting. This is on the

Environmental Impact Statement for Davis-Besse's license

renewal request.

And, what I'm going to do is go over to few

ground rules of how we conduct this public meeting. We

want to get your comments in and everyone gets a fair

share of time and the Court Reporter can actually

clearly hear your remarks.

First of all, if you would like to speak, please sign up on the yellow card up at the front. We

have at least ten people who want to speak at this point

in time. So, I will call you in the specific order to

go through and make sure we cover all the groups that

are interested in speaking.

To be fair to everyone, please limit your

remarks to a reasonable period of time. I normally ask

people to keep their remarks to five minutes. Since we

only have about ten speakers, we can give you a little NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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as we go through.

In the interest of efficiency, I will call

three people to come up and speak. That seems to be the

most efficient, so the first one will come to the

microphone, whichever one you feel comfortable at. You

can speak from this microphone or you can speak from the

podium. And, after we go through three, I will call

another three, so you have some time to prepare and are

ready to make your remarks.

I alternate typically between elected

officials and members of the public. That gives the

elected officials a chance to speak early but also

allows the public a chance to speak earlier as well.

So, we'll alternate back and forth.

Next item, please silence your cell phones

if you have one with you. Thank you very much. Again, please speak clearly into the microphone when you're

speaking because we do have a Court Reporter to record

these remarks, so we want to make sure we accurately

recover all your remarks. If you have it in a written

format, you can also turn those in to us as well.

I would ask in the interest of courtesy that

you do not interrupt the speaker when you're talking and NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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Again, written comments are welcome. If you

don't want to come to the microphone, you can turn in

written comments, and then the presenters here today

will talk to you about how you can formally turn in

written comments by mail between now and the latter part

of the month.

And, finally, if you have any questions or

concerns regarding how this meeting is being conducted, please come and see me. I will be glad to work through

any issues you may have.

I would like to introduce the NRC staff in

attendance at this meeting.

First, Dave Wrona is a Branch Chief from the

License Renewal Branch.

Secondly, Brian Harris, who is the Safety

Project Manager from NLR who will be making a

presentation coming up.

Paula Cooper, who is the Environmental

Project Manager from NLR, and she will also be making a

presentation this afternoon.

Scott Burnell, the Public Affairs Officer

from our headquarters office.

Allan Barker, the Region III State Liaison

Officer.

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John Rutkowski, he's the Senior Resident

Inspector at Davis-Besse, and Dave Kimble who I believe

will be replacing him in the near term.

And, finally, Adam Wilson, who is the

resident inspector.

At this point in time, I would like to turn

the meeting over to Brian Harris to make his

presentation.

MR. HARRIS: Good afternoon. My name is

Brian Harris, and I would like to thank you all for

coming out to this public information session today.

I'm NRC's Project Manager in charge of the Davis-Besse

license renewal application for Davis-Besse.

This meeting serves two purposes: To explain

the license renewal process and to gather your comments

on the environmental scoping. This slide points out two

parts of the meeting where you can get involved. We'll

have a question and answer session on the license

renewal process, and later we'll officially record your

environmental scoping comments.

Next slide, please. So, our first topic on

the agenda is the license renewal process overview. As

I said earlier, we're here to help you understand the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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review.

So, before I get into the discussion of the

license renewal process, I would like to take a minute

to tell you about NRC, what we do and what our mission

is. We protect the public health and safety, promote

common defense and security and protect the environment

from radioactive materials that are used for civilian

purposes.

We accomplish this mission by establishing

rules and regulations, conducting inspections, issuing

enforcement actions, assessing licensing performance, and evaluating operating experience for nuclear plants

across the country and around the globe.

So, one of the ways that we protect public

health and safety is through our ongoing oversight of

nuclear power plants. The NRC's power plant oversight

covers topics such as emergency planning, security and

current safety performance every day through our

resident inspectors and additional staff at our Regional

Headquarters Offices.

For example, the NRC continues to evaluate

how First Energy is addressing the emergency

preparedness issue at Davis-Besse. The Agency issues a NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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planning and current performance every day, we do not

reevaluate these issues in license renewal.

Another example of ongoing oversight is the

recent NRC mandated inspection of Davis-Besse's reactor

vessel head which reveal cracks in nozzles on the head.

While the cracks do not affect safe plant operation, the

NRC oversaw First Energy's repairs of the head and

ensured that the plant did everything necessary to keep

the plant operating safely before Davis-Besse started

this summer.

The NRC will continue to oversee these sorts

of inspection, maintenance and repair activities for

every operating plant regardless of whether the plant

has entered a new license period.

So, the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Station was

originally licensed on April 22, 1977. The Atomic

Energy Act authorizes the NRC to grant a 40-year

operating license to nuclear power reactors. The plant

has been operating for 32 years under its 40-year

license, and Congress decided on the 40-year term for

economic considerations and antitrust factors, not on

safety or technical limitations. If the license is

renewed, it will then be valid until April 2037.

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These reviews evaluate separate aspects of the license

renewal application. The safety review focuses on the

aging of components and structures that the NRC deems

important to plant safety.

The staff's main objective is to ensure the

applicant can adequately manage the effects of aging on

the plant and will document results of our safety review

in our safety evaluation report, or SER.

For the environmental review, the staff

considers, evaluates and describes the environmental

impacts of operating the plant for an additional

20 years. The objective of the review is to determine

if the environmental impacts of the license renewal are

so great that license renewal would not become a

reasonable option. The staff prepares an Environmental

Impact Statement, or EIS, to document its environmental

review.

So, this diagram lays out the two review

paths as well as three other inputs to the Commission's

decision on whether or not to renew an operating

license, and one of their considerations is an

independent review of the staff's safety report by the

Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards, or ACRS.

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Commission. Now, after reviewing the application, the

safety evaluation report and inspection findings, the

ACRS reports their findings and recommendations directly

to the Commission.

Hearings may also be conducted if interested

stakeholders submit concerns or contentions, and their

request for a hearing is granted. The Commission

considers the outcome of the hearing process in its

decision on whether or not to issue a new operating

license.

As part of the environmental review, the

staff consults with local, state, federal and travel

officials.

Now, I'm going to describe the license

renewal process in a little more detail with the safety

review, and Ms. Cooper will describe the environmental

review later.

So, the regulations governing a license

renewal are based on two principles: The first

principle is that the current regulations ensure that

the current licensing basis for all operating plants

provide and maintain an acceptable level of safety.

The second principle is that the plant's NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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applies under the current license will apply to a

renewed license. In addition, a renewed license will

include conditions that must be met to ensure aging is

adequately managed so that the plant's current licensing

basis is maintained during the extended period of

operation.

The staff performs rigorous reviews of the

applicant's application and supporting documents, and

this review includes evaluating new and existing

programs and surveillance activities to determine

whether the effects of aging concerning plant structures

and components will be adequately monitored and managed.

The safety review also includes on site

audits to verify the applicant's technical basis and to

verify and confirm that the application accurately

describes the applicant's aging management programs and

activities. The staff documents the basis and

conclusions of its review in a public safety evaluation

report.

In addition, a team of specialized inspectors

travel to the site to verify that aging management

programs are being implemented, modified or planned

consistent with the license renewal application.

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and the staff's safety evaluation report before making a

recommendation to the Commission regarding a proposed

action to a renewed operating license.

So, that concludes the safety review, and

I'll now hand it over to Ms. Paula Cooper.

MS. COOPER: Good afternoon. My name is

Paula Cooper. I'm the NRC's Environmental Project

Manager for Davis-Besse, and as Brian Harris described

previously in the safety review, I'm going to do the

bottom leg of the diagram and do the environmental

review.

The environmental review follows guidelines

set by the National Environmental Policy Act, also

referred to as NEPA. NEPA provides the basic

architectural review format for federal environmental

reviews requiring a systematic approach and advising the

potential impact of major federal action.

At the NRC, the license renewal application

is classified as a major federal action. The

environmental review considers the impact of the

proposed action and any mitigation for those impacts be

considered to be significant. We consider alternatives

to proposed action, even the impacts associated with not NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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As you can see, you have several

opportunities to participate in the license renewal

process. A Federal Register notice and press release

will be issued for most of these opportunities. The

environmental review begins today with the scoping

activities that reveal important issues that need to be

analyzed. During the scoping, we want your comments on

the scope of the environmental review.

The public input is the second half of our

meeting today and will be discussed later in this

session.

After studying the range of environmental

impact, we will publish a draft Environmental Impact

Statement for public comment. At that time, we will

come back and have another public meeting and issue and

request your comments on that draft. Once we collect

your comments on that draft, we will then issue our

final Environmental Impact Statement.

The opportunity for a hearing permits those

who are directly affected by the licensing

qualification. A hearing will be conducted by the panel

of administrative law judges who are called the Atomic

Safety and Licensing Board, also referred to as the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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This is the important milestone to the

license renewal application process. The notice of

opportunity for hearing was published on October 25th, followed by the notice of intent for hearing, the EIS, and conduct scoping on October 29th.

The period for making comments or contentions

for a hearing closes on December 27th. If you have

comments regarding the environmental review, if you

would like to see a copy of today's meeting, you will

have the opportunity to do so until December 27th as

well.

In summary, before deciding to issue a

renewed operating license, the Commission considers the

following factors:

The staff safety review which is documented

in the safety evaluation report, the staff environmental

review which is documented in the Environmental Impact

Statement, NRC's findings and conclusions from the

sections, and the recommendation by the committee on

reactor safeguards, these hearings.

If a hearing is conducted, the absence of

that process is also taken into consideration. The

typical time frame for renewing a renewed license is

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We have made available hard copies of the

license renewal application at the (indiscernible)

public library and the Toledo Lucas County Public

Library. When the draft Environmental Impact Statement

is available, it will also be available at those

libraries as well.

Several documents have been previously

gathered and can be found on the CD located on the table

here to my right. They include the generic

Environmental Impact Statement, the license renewal

application, the three Federal Registers that have been

published to date and a copy of the frequently-asked

questions for license renewal. You can also access all

these documents on the NRC website. The LRA can be

found on the website as well.

For information relating to the scoping

comments, you can review the regulations on site and

additionally to keep informed on aspects related to the

NRC at the website.

This concludes this presentation, and I'll

turn it back over to the facilitator.

Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you. At this point in NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 14 time, we would like to ask the audience if there are any questions regarding the license renewal process. This

is not an opportunity for you to provide comments on the

Environmental Impact Statement but, rather, an

opportunity for you to ask questions regarding this

process of the staff. If you have any questions, please

go ahead and move to the center microphone and staff

will answer them; and if not, we'll move into the

comment period.

(No Response)

MR. BARKLEY: No questions? Okay, how

about we move right into the comment period then.

MS. COOPER: All right, previously, we

had presented the license renewal process, and now we're

going on to the second stage of the presentation and

that's the environmental scoping.

This completes the previous presentation, and

I would like to highlight that we're on the second step

followed by the public scoping meeting.

Scoping meetings started on October 29th with

the notice of intent to prepare an EIS and to conduct

scoping was published.

In general, we were looking for sources of

information about the environmental impact of continued

operations at Davis-Besse that we should consider when NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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You can assist us in that process by telling

us, for example, what aspect of your local community we

should focus on, what local environment and economic

aspect that the NRC should examine during our

environmental review and what reasonable alternatives

are most appropriate for the area.

These are just some examples of the input

we're look for, and they represent the kind of

information we are seeking through the environmental

scoping process. Your comments today should be helpful

in providing insight of this nature.

Through the environmental review, the NRC has

established a team of staff and contractors who are

experts in various fields and disciplines. This slide

gives you an idea of the various areas we're looking at

during the environmental review. They include

terrestrial and aquatic policies, environmental justice, hydrology and radiation.

For license renewal review, NRC's

environmental staff looks at a wide range of impact. We

consult with various federal, state and local officials

as well as leaders in Indian nations, gathering

pertinent information from these sources ensuring that

it is considered in our analysis. Examples include the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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This slide represents the different methods

for the public's scoping comments. It shows how to

mail, fax and submit through the internet on

regulations. The scoping comments are reviewed by

December 27, 2010. In general, we are looking for

information about the environmental impact from

continued operation of Davis-Besse.

We know you are the experts in your community

so your comments today will ensure a thorough review of

the environmental, social and economic issues the NRC

should examine during our environmental review and what

reasonable alternatives are most appropriate for this

region.

You are the primacy contacts for the NRC for

the license renewals for Davis-Besse, the Project

Manager, Brian Harris, and myself. If you have any

questions about today's meeting, we will be around to

answer questions following the meeting. If you have

questions after you leave today, you're more than

welcome to contact any one of us.

This concludes my presentation. Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Okay, thank you.

The first three people I would like to call NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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Ottawa County EMA.

If you would like to speak from this

microphone, that would be fine. Go ahead and lead

off.

MR. STAHL: Thanks, Mark.

Good afternoon. My name is Mark Stahl, and

I'm the President of Ottawa County Commissioners.

Ottawa County is successful because we surround

ourselves with successful community partners, and

Davis-Besse is one of those community partners, who we

look very favorably upon.

You will hear from some the other agencies, the nonprofits, the contributions that you make back to

our community helps us tremendously, and we greatly

appreciate that.

We also as Commissioners appreciate our NRC

partnership. We have had conversations with you, I

know, through the years, and we appreciate those

unbiased conversations that we've had in regard to

Davis-Besse.

So, I will let these two gentlemen fill you

in, but as President of the the Ottawa County

Commissioners, I'm here to offer our support to you, NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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Thank you.

MR. WITT: Thanks, Mark. I appreciate you

putting Mark before Fred and I because he's our boss.

I'm Jere Witt. Many of you know me. I'm County

Administrator for Ottawa County. I've been with the

County for 32 years, and ironically when I looked at the

dates on there, I started with the County on July 20, 1978, and I believe the plant began operating in on July

31, 1978. So, we're pretty close on our birth dates

there.

I've been involved, as I said earlier, many

years with Davis-Besse and especially within the last

five to ten years. I was part of the restart overview

panel that worked for two years on the head issues. I

got my nuclear degree during that two years. I much

appreciated, and I really got a better feeling for

Davis-Besse and the nuclear industry.

I currently serve on the Company Nuclear

Review Board to ensure that Davis-Besse continues to

operate safely, and there's a bunch of nuclear experts

on there and then there's me, but it's easy for me a use

their expertise to see if Davis-Besse operates safely, and I'm happy to say that every time we've met, we have

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I attend and participate in the NRC quarterly

exit meetings of Davis-Besse, and those have been

another way for Ottawa County to keep informed on what's

going on with Davis-Besse.

I receive many, many, many more than I really

want to see daily e-mails from the plant, but the most

important one is the morning e-mail that I get every

morning that tells the current status of the plant and

the issues that are going on, and it's an easy way for

me to keep up daily. I'm kept informed by plant

management. I think I get calls in the middle of the

night any time there is an issue, and we appreciate that

because it's showing their concern that Ottawa County is

able to keep inform.

As Mark mentioned, we work closely with the

NRC. We've been meeting with them quarterly just to

bring us up to speed, hear what's going on at

Davis-Besse, and get the NRC's side of that.

I actually have a vested interest in the

plant. I own property that abuts the plant, and it's

very important to me that they keep that plant operating

safely. I have a cottage there that my -- when the head

incident happened, my grandchildren and their mother and

dad were living there, and my wife kept asking me if I NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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We continue to watch closely to see that the

plant does operate safely. I have personally witnessed

the transformation of the site personnel in the new

safety culture, and they continue to maintain that

culture, and I think that is one of the most important

things that any nuclear power plant has to do.

I believe that the people who work at

Davis-Besse and have witnessed how they challenge each

other for safe plant operation. I don't think that was

necessarily always true years ago, but today they do, in

fact, and at many of my visits out there, I have

witnessed how they challenge each other.

Many of the Davis-Besse employees live in the

community and are important assets to Ottawa County. I

think it's very important that the corporate structure

that's been put in place to oversee the operations of

Davis-Besse continue, and I think it's a good structure.

Davis-Besse has been a great asset to the

community and are very involved in Ottawa County. We in

Ottawa County will continue to watch and make sure the

plant operates safely, but through my past involvement, I have no concerns for the safety of Davis-Besse.

We look forward to a license renewal. Ottawa NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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license renewal.

Thank you very much.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you Jere.

Fred?

MR. PETERSEN: Thank you. My name is Fred

Petersen. I'm the Director of the Ottawa County

Emergency Management Agency. I've been involved in the

EMA for 16 years and ten months.

I want to talk specifically about the Ottawa

County EMA's good working relationship with Davis-Besse

Power Station. Largely because of that relationship we

provide a lot of benefits.

All of our plans and procedures are thorough

and well maintained and are regularly exercised. Those

exercises are conducted specifically on the radiological

side biannually. So, every two years, FEMA comes in and

evaluates our performance plan to keep us in compliance.

Over the years that I have been associated

with the agency and even prior to that, we have had no

significant issue on our exercises, and they perform

very well.

Our emergency operation center and our risk

management agency are generally better equipped, more NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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We feel like we're very well prepared for

anything that happens here in the county, specifically

radiological rescue emergency preparedness. But, some

of the things that we do on the radiological side that

really benefit us are lot of spill-over benefits on

preparedness work review at Davis-Besse. Those would

include, we have a great relationship with our fire, EMS, law enforcement, private response orientation in

the county, and that's because we regularly exercise

training and work with them.

So, all the events that have happened in the

county, we have been very successful with our response, and a lot of that is because of everything we do with

Davis-Besse, and how it helps with our relationship.

An example of that would be the tornado this

past June. Everyone that was involved had some sort of

role in the radiological response program. A lot of the

response procedures that we use for Davis-Besse are very

applicable to some of the things that we had to do like

HAZMAT.

The tangible things that we have is because

of Davis-Besse. One of the things that is very NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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plant, and is available to us for any number of outdoor

notifications that need to be relayed; specifically, weather, very, very important to the community.

We also do a brochure calendar for our

particular State of Ohio, Lucas County, that goes to all

of our residents and provides them a plethora of

information about all types of emergency response and

what they can do in response to tornadoes, floods, HAZMAT and radiological emergency.

So, really, all this adds up to the fact that

our relationship in Ottawa County with Davis-Besse is a

benefit to the residents of Ottawa County.

Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you.

The next three people I would like to call

are: Chris Galvin of the United Way; followed by Jackie

VanTress of OPEIU, Local 19; and following, Kimberly

Kaufman of the Black Swamp Bird Observatory.

Thank you.

MS. GALVIN: I'm Chris Galvin, Director of

the United Way in Ottawa County. The Davis-Besse

Nuclear Power Station and on a larger scale the First

Energy Corporation are a tremendous community partner to NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 24 the local United Way. Since 1993, First Energy has contributed more than 13.5 Million Dollars to United Way

of Greater Toledo which serves Ottawa, Wood and Lucas

Counties. 3.1 Million came from corporate gifts, 10.4

Million from its incredibly generous employees.

First Energy has also earned United Way's

Pillar Award each year since at least 1992. Our data

doesn't go back any further than that. It seems they

consistently give more than a hundred thousand dollars

each year to the Greater Toledo campaign.

Not only does this community consistently get

solid financial support from First Energy and its

employees, but executive leadership has also

demonstrated exceptional personal commitment to our

work.

In 1993, Don Saunders chaired the local

United Way campaign, raising 12.5 Million Dollars.

In 2005, Jim Murray, now retired, but

formerly First Energy President of Ohio Operations, chaired the local United Way campaign. Under Mr.

Murray's leadership, the campaign raised 13.3 Million

Dollars. We also presented Mr. Murray with our

Prestigious Caring Award in 2006 for demonstrating value

and concern for our community through vision, leadership, service and commitment to the people of our NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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In 2009, Trent Smith, Regional President of

Toledo Edison First Energy, became chairman of the

United Way of Greater Toledo's Board of Trustees and has

drawn to a close on his second year of service. Mr.

Smith has gone above and beyond the level of service, dedication and commitment we typically see from board

chairs. He has become involved in virtually ever level

of our work, digging in and helping find real solutions.

In addition to these executive leaders, numerous upper-level management have supported United

Way by using their voice and relationships to help

secure financial and volunteer support as well as

advocating on behalf of the United Way and the Northwest

Ohio Region.

In addition to Don Saunders, Jim Murray and

Trent Smith, some of the stand-out employees include

Debbie Paul, Mike Adams, and Mel Lomack. Additionally, in the 1990's Jennifer Schreiber served five years as

the chair of our community impact cabinet, the highest

level of community impact volunteers who decide how

money is allocated in this community. Also joining her

on the cabinet was Jenny Ammadon. Both are now retired.

First Energy also demonstrates incredible

commitment to the communities through sponsorships and/

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In 1993 and 1994, Davis-Besse sponsored our

loaned executive program. Jim Ferris, now retired from

Davis-Besse, was the loaned executive in those

two years. First Energy has also sponsored loaned

executives over the years, from 1996 continuing for

11 years.

Employees consistently contribute to and

participate in Stamp Out Hunger and/or Scouting for Food

efforts each year. They were a major sponsor of our

Family Food Fund in 2008.

First Energy was the sponsor of our Community

Building event in 2005, and was the initiator and

sponsor of the Veterans Appreciation Event in 2006, which continued until 2009.

Davis-Besse and First Energy are a valued

community partner, both philanthropically and

economically. They have been incredible contributors to

our community over the past 20 years, and we only hope

that this will continue for at least another 20 years.

Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Chris.

Jackie?

MS. VANTRESS: Good afternoon. My name is

Jackie VanTress, and I am representing OPEIU, Local 19.

NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 27 "OPEIU" stands for Office and Professional Employees International Union, and we represent the clerical

support staff at Davis-Besse.

On behalf of the Union, I would like to voice

our support in this public meeting. A renewal of this

license will not only promote and maintain employment

for our members who live and shop and send their

children to school in that area, but it will also assure

the delivery of reliable electric service to our

customers.

Research has shown that nuclear power is

clean, is efficient and produces more energy at a lower

cost than any other means of generation. So, it is

important that we keep this plant in operation.

Local 19 is proud of the safety record and

operations at Davis-Besse as well as the work we do here

and the service we provide to the public. OPEIU, Local

19, would like to continue to be a part of the team for

at least the next 20 years.

Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Jackie.

MS. KAUFMAN: Good afternoon everybody. My

name is Kimberly Kaufman, and I'm the Executive Director

of Black Swamp Bird Observatory, and while I understand

the seriousness nature of this hearing, I'm actually NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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My organization represents a somewhat unique

marriage, if you will, between a conservation

organization and a nuclear power plant. The general

public and, of course, all of you in the room are

certainly familiar with the fact that the nuclear power

plant resides in this part of Ottawa County, but very

few are actually aware that the power plant co-exists

with the thriving marsh that just sort of forms a hub

around the power plant.

Our organization has been conducting

migratory bird regions in this area for more than

20 years, and we really take pride in this marriage, and

we work hard like a good spouse to maintain it.

The marsh represents a critical stop-over

habitat for millions of migratory birds. And, in fact, many the world's leading bird experts consider this

marsh to be one of the most critical areas of stop-over

habitat in the entire western hemisphere.

The observatory in these 20 years have had

the full support of First Energy and Davis-Besse to

conduct this critical research and, in fact, during a

very exciting tumultus time in this country's history, we were very afraid that our consistent effort meaning NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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in front of the power tank conducting this research

seven days a week for more than 20 years.

When the tragedy occurred on 9/11, we were

very concerned for, of course, the human tragedy, but

also concerned that our research would be interrupted.

And, in fact, Davis-Besse really fully understood the

importance of this research, and the importance of

conserving the integrity of the data set, and we didn't

miss a single day.

And, perhaps nothing else, no other event in

our history or recent history speaks more to how much

they have said they understand the critical role that

they play in local environmental and conservation issues

than that event.

So, based on our long-standing relationship, it is our opinion the Davis-Besse and First Energy have

not only worked to fully understand and fully support

the environmental issues for this local community, but

have also fully embraced the role that they play in all

of these issues.

So, it is opinion of the Black Swamp Bird

Observatory that the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Plant is

a critical player in bird conservation in the entire NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Kimberly.

The next three people I would like to call

are Steven Inchak, who is representing Congressman

Dennis Kucinich; Beth Leggett with the American Red

Cross; and Brad Goetz of the IBEW, Local 1413.

Welcome, Steve.

MR. INCHAK: Good afternoon.

Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My

name is Steve Inchak, and I work for Congressman

Kucinich, and what I'm going to do is simply read a

letter that the Congressman sent to the NRC chairman

today, and it reads as follows. And, I would also like

to ask that you consent to include the article

referenced in the official record, which I will provide

after I read the letter. It reads as follows:

"

Dear Chairman Jackstow:

First energy should

not be allowed to continue to operate Davis-Besse

after 2017. The people of Northeast Ohio are

familiar with First Energy's pathetic record in

protecting the safety of people who live in this

region. In a series of recent articles in the

Toledo Blade, which I am enclosing, the people of

our Region are reminded about the 12-minute NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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'potential catastrophe.'

"The people of our region are reminded of

Davis-Besse's reactor head 'weakened by years of

neglect' which nearly burst in 2002. The people

of our region are reminded that your predecessor, Harold Denton, stated in 2004 that these two

incidents represent 'the nuclear industry's

second and third lowest points after three-mile

Island.'

The people of our region are reminded that

First Energy employees tried to conceal the truth

of the 2002 incident from the Nuclear Regulatory

Agency, using tricks, 'schemes or devices' to

deliberately mislead your Agency.

"The people of our region are reminded that

David Pullman, Chief of the Justice Department's

Environmental Crime Section, said that First

Energy showed 'brazen arrogance' and 'breached the

public trust by withholding information about the

reactor head incident.

"The people are reminded that federal

prosecutors described the reactor head incident as

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"The people of our region are reminded that

First Energy paid a record fine of $33.45 Million

as a result of its actions. Of that amount, a

record $28 Million was a fine that First Energy

paid to 'avoid being criminally prosecuted for

lying to the government about the dangerous

condition of Davis-Besse's reactor head'

according to then US Attorney Greg White in 2006.

"While these fines were record fines at the

time they were imposed, I pointed out then that

the total fine was merely one percent of First

Energy's profit in 2004. While these fines may

have been record fines, they were a mere slap

on the wrist for First Energy and did nothing near

to what would have been necessary to change its

corporate culture.

"The corrosion of the reactor head started

because the Davis-Besse reactor head was made of

an alloy that would not withstand this kind of

corrosion. All of the other operators and nuclear

reactors with similar heads confronted the

situation by replacing their reactor heads with

new heads of a different alloy that would not be

subject to this kind of corrosion.

NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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another reactor head made of exactly the same

material.

"Six years later First Energy made us shocked

to discover that the corrosion was forming on that

inferior reactor head as well. Still, First

Energy had not learned its lesson. They wanted

to postpone the final replacement of the reactor

head with a new head made with a noncorroding

alloy until 2014.

"First Energy did not abandon that 2014

replacement date until the NRC threatened to

require Davis-Besse to shut down for an inspection

of the old reactor head every year until it was

replaced.

"Only as a result of that threat is First

Energy finally going to install a noncorroding

reactor head in 2011.

"Recent events suggest that First Energy

still has a corporate culture that is more focused

on costs and profits than on its safety.

"In 2009 Davis-Besse suffered an explosion

and fire in the power switching gear located

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"The evidence shows that this culture exists

in First Energy beyond its operation of

Davis-Besse. The NRC has been keeping a 'close

watch' on First Energy's operation at its

Perry reactor in Northeast Ohio as well. The NRC

remains concerned that Perry's safety culture is

not up to industry standards and has maintained a

close watch there for the last two years.

"Davis-Besse has been operating for

33 years. It has experienced two of the

industry's most serious nuclear incidents during

those years. This is not just bad luck. The

problems at Davis-Besse are a direct result of

First Energy's mismanagement and disregard for the

safety of people who live and work in the area and

who would be affected by any nuclear incident.

"The NRC should not grant a license to a

company that only operates safely while a

'special' inspection team is monitoring its

day-to-day activities and when a 'close watch' is

being kept on it.

"The NRC must continue to keep a close watch

on Davis-Besse between now and 2017 and then to

ensure that, first, this aging reactor with a NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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of its current license.

"Sincerely, Dennis J. Kucinich, member of

congress."

Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Steven. We will

receive that letter into the record.

Beth?

MS. LEGGETT: My name is Beth Leggett.

I'm the Director of the American Red Cross in Ottawa

County, part of the greater Toledo area chapter which is

a regional chapter for all of Northwest Ohio.

Through my position with the Red Cross, I

have seen cooperation that is envied between the

Emergency Management Agency and First Energy Davis-Besse

amongst the agency's first responders because of the

emergency preparedness that we do, we have been educated

to do over my 22 years in this position.

In Northwest Ohio, we're envied because of

the readiness that we have from the Red Cross standpoint

as well as from the whole county and the agencies that

are involved.

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we do to help us be ready and to protect the citizens of

Ottawa County.

We also because we have the mandate but we do

not receive government funds, I can speak to what Chris

Galvin of United Way said with regards to the money that

comes into the United Way. We are a United Way Agency, but even besides that, we have profited, the Red Cross

organization, from financial support on many levels from

First Energy and Davis-Besse as well as from the

volunteer aspect of the employees that respond through

the involvement of their families.

We have three or four blood drives that we

conduct at Davis-Besse that are very successful. We

have had a lot of leadership that has come out of the

Davis-Besse plant. Chuck Witt was a six-year chairman

for our local advisory board.

Currently, Terry Mortis, who is the Regional

Manager also of the Ottawa County District with First

Energy that provides a lot of leadership, a lot of

guidance to the Red Cross.

And, I'm going to take my Red Cross hat off, and I want to say that May 15, 1979, I became a new mom

for the very first time, and when my daughter was NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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have been in it.

And, I sat here today and thought how far

I've come and how grateful I am to have had the

exposure, educationally through the community, through

my friends to see the Davis-Besse plant in a whole

different light. I was young in the Nineties. I'm a

little bit smarter now about how those things work, and

I ask hard questions and I sometimes like the answers, sometimes I'm not so sure about the answers, but I am

confident in the safety of the Davis-Besse plant and the

good that it does in the community for the people that

are involved.

Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Beth.

Brad?

MR. GOETZ: Good afternoon. My name is

Brad Goetz, and I'm the Business Manager of the

International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, Local

1413. We represent security at Davis-Besse.

I just want to say that I'm a 26-year

employee at Davis-Besse, and over the years, the safety

culture has improved greatly and continues to improve

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Davis-Besse over the years has provided a

good living, a good income for many residents of Ottawa

County and surrounding counties and especially now in a

time when unemployment is high.

We support the license renewal, and we ask

the NRC to support it as well.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Brad.

There are three people who are still signed

up to speak. If there are any other people who would

like a speak, please come and see me.

The last three people I would like to call up

are Ann Heckerd of the St. Vincent de Paul Food Pantry, Brian Boles of FENOC, and Larry Tscherne of IBEW, Local

245.

MS. HECKERD: I am Ann Heckerd, the Food

Coordinator for the St. Vincent de Paul Food Pantry, and

I'm going to talk more on the economic aspect.

Davis-Besse has been very generous with their

donations to the Food Pantry in the past years. I also

would like to say that if it were to close, they may be

coming to our Food Pantry, and I would hate to see that.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Ann.

Brian?

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Our license renewal is a high priority item

for the state and for the county. We have had a number

of people working on this project now for well over a

year -- I see a number of those members are here -- to

put together a good product which we have submitted to

the NRC for their review.

It's a priority for us as a company because

Davis-Besse is a significant asset to our company. It

provides a large source of safe, reliable, environmental

friendly electricity to the surrounding area.

It is also important from a license renewal

aspect, 20 additional years of this asset to provide for

the employment opportunities for the local community, and many of our young engineers are graduating from

college today who wonder if nuclear power is a viable

future and a career path. It's important to know that

plants such as Davis-Besse and others are undergoing

renewal process have a future that they can depend on.

At Davis-Besse we do commit to ensuring the

public safety and protecting the environment. I'm sure

the review as we go through this license renewal process

will bear that out, and as evidenced by a number of the

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Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you, Brian.

Finally, Larry?

MR. TSCHERNE: Thank you and good

afternoon. My name is Larry Tscherne. I'm the Business

Manager for IBEW, Local 245, the International

Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.

We represent 22 counties here in the

Northwest Ohio, including Ottawa County here. But, in

addition to that, we also represent over 200 physical

workers at Davis-Besse that provide operations, maintenance, chemistry, radiation and protection of the

plant.

Now, what I'm going to talk about here

briefly isn't an opinion. It's a fact. I know that

from our members and the involvement that I have with

the plant, and not only with the plant but with senior

management. I'll go as far as the President of FENOC, Jim Lynch, who includes all the other business managers, the leadership of the local unions from the entire

FENOC. We meet on a regular basis a couple times a year

with the President. We share and open up any type of

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We do the same thing with the Plant Manager

at Davis-Besse, with the Maintenance Manager at

Davis-Besse.

We have worked over a number of issues, going

into outages, we have heard testimony here about the

head incident. Let me tell you the type of relationship

that we have been able to develop in the goal of working

together in a good labor-management relationship which

is important and critical, especially in this type of

industry.

During that incident, the plant, as you know, was down for, what, two years, maybe a little less.

Over that period of time and the hundreds of man hours

that were involved, multiple shift changes. You can't

imagine what we had to go through to get that plant back

up and running. We had four grievances filed; four out

of the entire period of time.

I only use that as an example because when we

meet, we continue to talk about the safety culture and

good maintenance practices which leads me to my next

point.

The safety culture, the dedication of the

employees, training and the craftsmanship are second to

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development of the training.

So, with that said, I would have to say that

First Energy has been open and honest in all of their

discussions with us. There's never been a time where I

haven't been able to call either Akron or the plant and

get an answer. It's just been terrific.

In addition to that, we not only work out

local issues but something more important or just as

important. We work together on issues in Washington

also through our labor management committee. A lot of

people probably aren't aware of that, but we do that

through our Land Pact Committee.

By extending the license here at Davis-Besse, it would continue to provide good clean power that's

critical. In addition to that also supporting the

much-needed tax base, not only to this area but to the

state, and I'm confident along with our members, that

IBEW, Local 245, that Davis-Besse will continue to be

safe, not only for the employees but also for the area.

Thank you.

MR. BARKLEY: Thank you.

I'll make one last call for anyone who would

like to make a statement.

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MR. BARKLEY: Hearing none, what I will do

is invite Mr. Wrona to come up and make some last-

minute remarks, and I very much appreciate your

cooperation in running this meeting very, very smoothly.

Thank you.

MR. WRONA: Thank you, Rich.

I'm David Wrona. I'm the Branch Chief in the

NRC who is responsible for the Davis-Besse license

renewal. I have three or four sentences here at 2:20.

First of all, thank you for allowing us to

come out and briefly explain our process which we'll do

a detailed review of the application to ensure that it

meets all of our requirements.

Secondly, I would like to thank you for

participating in our environmental scoping process.

This meeting is not the only way for you to provide us

comments. As was shown on one of the slides, you can

mail in comments to us, you can provide them to us on

the website. We will take these through December 27th.

So, if you go home tonight and what somebody said

sparked some comments in your head, feel free to use

either one of those methods, all three of those methods

on that slide will get those comments to us.

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those fashions, we're going to address and make

publically available scope and summary report which we

will issue sometime in the future, but it will be on our

website. If you signed up through our list serve, you

will receive a copy of that scoping summary report.

So, with that, I would like a thank you for

coming in again.

MR. BARKLEY: Thanks, Dave. This meeting

the adjourned. Thank you.

(Whereupon, the proceedings were concluded at

2:30 p.m.)