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. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMIS SION O BRIEFING ON STATUS OF WEST VALLEY PROJECT LOCatiOD ROCKVILLE, MARYLAND bdtO MARCH 29, 1989 Pages: 64 NEALR.GROSSANDC0.,INC.

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, .n 7 DISCLAIMER This is an unofficial transcript of a meeting of the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission held on MARCH 29, 1989 in the Commission's office at one White Flint North, Rockville, Maryland. The meeting was open to public attendance and observation. This transcript has not been reviewed, corrected or edited, and it may contain inaccuracies.

-s. The transcript is intended solely for general informational purposes. As provided by 10 CFR 9.103, it is not part of the f ormal ._ or informal record.of decision of the matters discussed. Expressions of opinion in this transcript do not necessarily reflect final determination or beliefs. No pleading or other paper may be filed with the Commission in any proceeding as the result of, or addressed to, any statement or argument contained herein, except as the Commission may authorize.

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BRIEFING ON STATUS OF WEST VALLEY PROJECT PUBLIC MEETING Nuclear Regulatory Commission One White Flint North Rockville, Maryland Wednesday, March 29, 1989 lj.

The Commission met in open session, pursuant to notice, a' t ~1 0': 0 0 ' a.m., L a rido 'W . Zech, Jr.,

Chairman, presiding.

COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:

Lando W. Zech, Jr., Chairman of the Commission Thomas M.. Roberts, Commissioner Kenneth M. Carr, Commissioner Kenneth C. Rogers, Commissioner James R. Curtiss, Commissioner l '..

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JOHN E.,BAUBLITZ, Acting Director  !

Office of Remedial Action & Waste Technology dR. JOSEPH COLEMAN, Director Division of Waste Treatment Projects ROY THOMAS, President West Valley Nuclear Services Westinghouse Electric Corporation TED K. DeBOER, Director Radioa'ctive Waste Management Program New York State Energy Research & Development Authority HOWARD A. JACK, General Counsel, Secretary New York State Energy Research & Development Authority

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,3 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Good afternoon, ladies and 4 gentlemen.

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5. Today, the Commission will be. briefed on the 6 West Valley Demonstration Project by the Department of i- 7 Energy and the State of New York.

8 The briefing will be conducted by John 9 Baublitz, Acting Director, Office of Remedia-1 Action 10 ~ and Waste Technology at the' Department of Energy, and 11 Ted DeBoer, Director of Radioactive Waste Management, 12 New York State Energy Research and Development c 13 Authority. .

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14 West Valley Demonstration Project Act 15 instructs the ' NRC 'to Idonitor the project 'to' ensure 16 that public health and safety are protected. The 17 Agency fulfills its responsibility by reviewing safety 18 analysis reports, conducting site visits, and 19 providing consultation to the Department of Energy.

20 Although the Act does not require NRC 21 licensing of either low-level and transuranic waste 22 disposal or decontamination and decommissioning 23 process, it is my understanding that all those i l

1 24 activities are to be carried out in accordance with i d- '25 the applicable NRC licensing requirements.

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1- All cctivities in the project require good y 2 coordination between the staffs of the Nuclear 3 Regulatory Commission, the Department of Energy and 4' the State of New York. The Commission is interested

-5 in h. earing today as to how the cooperation and 6: coordination between these organizations is 7 progressing.

8 Copies of the slide, I understand, are 9 available.at the entrance to the meeting room.

10 Do any of my fellow Commissioners have any 11 comments tc make before we begin?

12 If not, gentlemen, we welcome you here today 13 and we'll ask you to proceed.

m 14 Mr. Baublitz, are you going to be first?

15 . MR. . B AUBLITZ: Yes.. sir. Thank you, Mr.

16 Chairman. It is my pleasure to be here today to brief 17- you on the West Valley Project. As you remember, I 18 was here several months ago, last summer, and gave you

'19 a review of the programs in our Remedial Action and 1

20 Waste Technology office, which have close involvement 21' with the Commission and the staff. As a follow-on to 22 that, we understood that you were interested '

23 specifically in some more , specific information about 24 the West Valley Project, how it was going, and then

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1 interaction and reintionehips betwaan us, NRC, and Naw 2 York State.

3 Let me introduce to' you those that are 4 accompanying me here today. On my left, Doctor Joseph 5 Coleman,-who is our Director of the Division of Waste 6 Treatment Projects. His division is responsible for 7 our West Valley activities.

8 Doctor Willis Bixby is our Director of the 9 West Valley Project in New York. He could not be with 10 us today, but representing him, in the back, is Chuck 11 Lunbird, who is the gentleman who's done the most work 12 on developing the plans for the environmental impact 13 statement which is the focus of our initial work on 14 this close coordination with New York Sta.e for the 15 final site. closure..- . .

16 Then on the left here, Doctor Roy Thomas, 17 who is President of West Valley Nuclear Services, the 18 prime contractor for the project at West Valley.

19 Mr. DeBoer, as you mentioned, will be giving 20 the presentation following mine for New York State.

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1 psrepactiva. I work for tha Assistant Secretary of l A s 2 Nuclear Energy and under our overall jurisdiction, the j 3- Idaho operations office is directly responsible for j j

4- the West Valley Project and have provided a project' 5 . office and project team at the West Valley location to 6 implement the day to day management of the project.

7 As we mentioned, the West Valley Nuclear Services 8 Company is the principal contractor that's carrying 9 that out.

10 In a very close coordination role, 'of 11 course, with us is the New York Energy Research and 12 Development Authority, as shown by the dashed lines on 13 the. chart, and they also have a project office at the q.

14 site which is staffed by their own personnel 15 (Slide) Next slide, _please.

16 To introduce the project, I'm providing a 17 bit of background, a current status on where we are 18 right now. Then I'll go into the plans for what we 19 call our Phase II, the final decontamination and 20 decommissioning phase of the project which leads 21 ultimately to site closure.

22 To review the history briefly, we have a 23 chronology, listed here going all the way back to 1961, 24 wh'en New York State acquired property for the 25 establishment of the Western New York Nuclear Services NEAL R. GROSS ~

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1- Cantar, to ba a commsrcial reprocessing fccility for 2 nuclear fuel, 3 An agreement was reached in 1962 with the 1

4 Atomic, Energy Commission and New York State to 5 construct such a plant and the construction was 6 completed in 1966.

7 From that year until '72, Nuclear Fuel 8 Services reprocessed spent nuclear fuel, a total of 9 approximately 640 metric tons. Then, in 1972, the 10 plant was shut down for modification and expansion.

11 From '73 through '75, while the plant was 12 shut down, they continued to receive spent nuclear 13 fuel. in the assumption, the expectation that 14 reprocessing would be resumed.

15 F i n.a l l y. .t h e n in 1976., NFS decided to 16 withdraw from the reprocessing business and did so.

17 Subsequently, to deal with the waste that was at the 18 site, the remaining spent ' fuel and the necessary ]

19 clean-up associated with the entire site, Congress in l

20 1980 passed a specific piece of legislation that ,

21 authorized the Department to carry out a high-level 1

22 waste demonstration project in conjunction with New l I

23 York State. ,

24 In 1981, the Department selected 25 Westinghouse and its principal subsidiary, which Mr.

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i 1 Thomno now hand 2, to ba the oparctinc contractor. In 2 February of 1982, we assumed operational control of 3 the project premises. ]

I 4 (Slide) Next slide, please.

5 This shows :torially a s1.mple sketch of {

6 the key parts of the West Valley site. The processing l

7 plant is that facility which was built and used for 8 the reprocessing itself.

9 There are two tanks, named 8D-1 and 8D-2, 10 which contain the high-level liquid waste that was 11 resulting from the reprocessing operations, and there l 12 are two waste disposal areas. The one that's labeled 13 New York State Low-Level Waste Disposal Area had no 14 direct connection with the high-level waste processing 15 facility. It was.a_ general low-level waste site for '

1 16 commercial low-level waste. And then the so-called 17 NDA, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Disposal Area, 18 that did in fact receive waste from the processing j 19 plant while it was operated. Mr. DeBoer, in his I 20 discussion, will talk about those parts of the i

21 facility, j 22 (Slide) Next slide, please.

, 23 The goal of our project, vf course, is to 24 demonstrate solidification of the high-level liquid 25 waste that's at the site and prepare it for permanent l

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,- *4 To accomplish all the objectives of the 5 project,"we divided into two phases. The first phase 6 which we are currently involved in now is to solidify L

7 the high-level waste in a form suitable for ultimate 8 disposal and develop the containers that would be 9 :needed to, in fact, contain it for disposal. So, the 10 solidification part is the focus of Phase I.

11 Phase II picks up the transport of that 12 solidified waste to the repository, disposal of the W. . 13 low-level and transuranic waste that's' produced by the i 14 solidification project and decontamination and

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17 (Slide) Next slide.

18 Our current schedule for the project is to 19 complete the solidification phase by 1998. I might 20 mention at this point, in my earlier briefing I 21 believe I probably gave you some similar information 22 on this project in a shorter form. Since that time, 23 as a result of the actions on* the 1990 budget, the

'24 project completion date has stretched. We told you j 25 probably in June that the completion of Phase I was

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3 The second phase, the D&D phase, goes on for 4 a very long time and is estimated now to be completed 5 in the year 2020.

l 6 Implementation of the project is, as I had i 7 mentioned before, assign T to our project office at 8 West Valley and the cost of the project is shared in 9 accordance with the terms of the legislation, 90 10 percent DOE, 10 percent state.

11 (Slide) Next slide, please.

12 I've summarized here the NRC role in 13 accordance with the authorizing legislation. NRC is 14 required by the legislation to review and consult with 15 the Department o n... o u r plans. for high-level aste 16 removal; solidification and preparation for disposal; 17 our plans for decontamination of the facilities used 18 for the solidification; on the form and containers to 19 be used for the high-level waste disposal; and also 20 then, the safety analysis reports that are prepared 21 for the individual parts of the facility as they are 22 developed and readied for operation; and, of course 23 then, in a more generalized way, all information ,

24 related to potential hazards to public health and 25 safety in a broad general operational sense.

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2 The NRC, of. course, also has free access to r.m 3 the site to monitor our activities and they are 4 specifically to prescribe requirements for

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6. we would loosely call clean-up criteria.

7 (Slide) Next slide, please.

8 The Department and the NRC implemented a l

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11 relationship between the agencies. The scope of the i 1

12 agreement encompasses the development, design, 13 construction, operation, decontamination and 14 decommissioning activities. In other words, the 15 entire scope of the.... project. . .

16 The focus of the responsible parties with 17 the Department are the Office of Nuclear Energy, as I 18 mentioned focused in our West Valley Project Office; 19 and with the NRC, the Office of Nuclear Material .

20 Safety and Safeguards in Region I up in King of 21 Prussia.

l 22 (Slide) And then a very brief summary on l 23 the next, slide of the contents of the MOU, very 24 straightforward. It was agreed to and signed in j 25 September of 1981.

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r 2 What I'd like to do now is review briefly 3 the status of the project in that part which we call 4 Phase I, whose objective is the demonstration of the 5 solidification and preparation of the high-level waste 6 for disposal. We liave outlined on this slide the 7 portions of the total project scope that fall under 8 Phase I, the solidification of the waste, the 9 development of the containers, and then the 10 decontamination of facilities that we would need to do 11 the solidification work.

12 (Slide) The next slide is a simple 13 pictorial to give you essentially a quick photo of

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' Taking 14 .what the basic Phase I. project is all about.

15 the high-lev.el waste in the 8D.-2 tank., which is 16 divided basically into two phases, there's a liquid 17 supernatant phase and a sludge phase at the bottom of 18 the tank. The supernatant, which is predominantly 19 contaminated with cesium, is processed in one stream 20 to produce ultimately drums of low-level radioactive i l

i 21 wasta. The sludge is processed through a different 22 stream to produce the glass logs that will ultimately 23 go to the repository.

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- 2 MR. BAUBLITZ: 8D-2 has the --

3 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Is there a difference?

4 MR. BAUBLITZ: 8D-2 has the large bulk 5 volume of the waste. 8D-1 has a much smaller volume 6 of waste. That will be, in fact, combined with the 7 BD-2 waste and all be handled together ultimately.

8 This is an oversimplified rendering, just for 9 convenience.

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i 11 still a schematic, a slightly more complicated view to 12 show the steps in the two processes. We've defined 13 the two processes to be used to solidify the waste as ,

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14 low-level waste and high-level waste defined by the end produgt .of that stream., As I mentioned, the 15 16 supernatent gets treated first. That is treated 17 through a series of zeolite beds to remove the cesium.

18 There's an evaporation step to concentrate it and then 19 the liquid remaining, which is now a low activity, is 20 solidified in cement and those cement drums are 21 currently in storage, or being put in storage as 22 they're produced, pending a final decision on 23 disposal.

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. 2 supernate processing and that combined then is made 3 into the glass in the vitrification system which 4 produces the roughly 300 glass logs which will 5 ultimately be disposed of in the repository.

6 (Slide) The next niide just gives you a 7 current status of where we are in the Phase I of the 8 project. The supernatant processing system was 9 started up with radioactive processing in May of last 10 year. We've had very good operational success.

11 Decontamination factors through the zeolite beds has 12 ranged from 5,000 to 150,000 under different operating 13 conditions, well above that range and the entire range

. 14 is well above the design goal of 1,000.

15 - The. product acceptance . rate , that is the 16 acceptance rate for the cement drums at the other end 17 of the screen, has been very high. The dose rates on 18 the drums has been about a factor of ten below design 19 expectations. We have achieved full NRC staff 20 concurrence on the cement waste form and the 21 interac'tions with the staff in reaching that agreement 22 I think have been very good. We've had very good 23 working relationships with tlie staff in reaching that 24 objective.

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1 gallona hava basn prococccd end wa. produced about 2900 e 2 cement drums. Referring back to- the earlier slide 3 where our total number of drums is some 15,000, you l

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6 COMMISSIONER CARR: Initial estimate looked 7 like it might have been 13,000, and that's ten percent 8 or so. What happened? It just turns out you're 9 getting more drums than you thought you would?

10 MR. BAUBLITZ: I think our experience is 11 showing more accurately what our long-term expectation 12 is. We're s till ', I guess it's fair to say, fine

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14 dilution f actors. in terms of the feed. That all 15 affects the actual. number of drums. produced.

16 Our overall goal of the operation of the 17 system is to try to get as much of the cesium out of 18 the system as possible and make as few glass logs as 19 we can. In other words, to get as much out of the 20 front end of the cycle to reduce the number of logs as 21 we can.

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23 COMMISSIONER CARR: Do you mean by that 24 you're-expecting -- if you get more drums, you'll get 25 fewer logs?

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3 MR. BAUBLITZ: Only roughly.

4 The next slide shows our current overall 5 schedule. We are in the process now of processing 6 supernatant and doing what is called the civil 7 construction. That's the building and shielding 8 construction in preparation for the vitrification 9 system. When that is complete in 1991, we .will be 10 finishing or proceeding with the rest of the 11 construction of the vitrification system, the sludge 12 mobilization system, and processing additional washing 13 of the cludge to try to get as much of the cesium out

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14 as we can. Leading then, in about late 1994, to cold 15 operation.of .the new melter and hot operation of the 16 melter in about late 1996, about a two year 47 operational cycle for the melter to produce the logs.

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22 operated a melter at the site for a number of years.

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, 2 procured and installed for the actual production. So, 3' the cold ops. is principally to get the new melter 4 operating and get all the operating parameters down 5 very confidently before we start our operations.

6 (Slide) I've included on the next slide a 7 summary of what is called the waste acceptance process 8 because it does relate to the operation of the melter 9 and the things that we're doing along with the 10 repository program at DOE to assure ourselves that the 11 logs that will be produced by the project will 12 successfully be handled by the repository program, the 13 licensing action that they will be going through with-

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16 There's a sequence of steps that had been 17 identified for the project in conjunction with a 18 repository program. Some waste acceptance preliminary 19 specifications, as they're called, have been 20 developed. That provides the targets for the 21 operation of the melter. We, as a waste form l 22 producer, develop, produce and characterize the waste 23 to meet the requirements of those specifications.

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3 summarize all the data from our current operations of 4 the test melter. It will include the cold oper0 cions 5 of the production melter and then finally when we get 6 into production in a hot sense, we will maintain 7 production records of what is actually being produced.

8 The repository program evaluate the waste 9 form as part of their work in site characterization to 10 establish suitability for licensing and, of course, 11 interact with the Commission for the repository 12 license. Then, of course, finally, the canisters and 13 the production records are provided for final 14 acceptance and disposal in the repository.

15 That concludes th'e summary on Phase I.

(flide) The next slide initiates the 16 17 discussion on Phase II. Again, we've outlined the 18 parts and project scope that are included, the 19 transport of the glass logs to the repository, the 20 disposal of the waste that's been created in the 21 project and the decontamination and decommissioning of 1 22 the facilities that have been used in the project.

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2 might be able' to speed up the final steps of this 3 project by retaining .the glass logs in storage for a 4 shorter period of time.

5 The base case shows that following 6 completion of the vitrification in 1998, we will have 7 the logs under storage until about 2009, which is the 8 earliest we expect the repository to be in a position 9 to accept them. The dashed line shows an alternate 10 case. If we can identify a location within the 11 Department for storage of the logs while they're 12 waiting for the repository, and the obvious point here i 13 is that DOE will have other vitrification facilities 14 operating, producing logs for disposal, that will be 15 in storage. .

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19 There's no real safety issue here. It's 20 just clearly an economic issue that this project can 21 certainly save a significant amount of funds and time 22 if we could close up shop quite a few years earlier.

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, 2 (Slide) The next slide describes the 3- environmental impact statement for Phase II which we 4 have just initiated. We published a record of intent 5 in The Federal Register in December. We identified 6 that the EIS will address the completion of the 7 project which is the joint responsibility of DOE and 8 New York State under the terms of the legislation.

9 And, in addition, it will address the closure of the 10 overall center which will be the state's 11 responsibility following completion of the project.

12 The Department and New York State will 13 cooperate fully on the preparation of the EIS. We are 14 -the lead agency for National Environmental Policy Act 15 compliance.and New.-York S tate --is the lead agency for 16 compliance with their equivalent legislation for 17 environmental- compliance in New York State. The 18 process was kicked off with public scoping meetings in 19 Springville, New York, near the project site, in 20 February of this year.

.21 (Slide) The next slide identifies those 22 things in the notice of intent that will be included ,

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. 2 plant itself and the systems that we have installed in 3 .it for the vitrification process, the high-level waste 4 storage tanks and vaults, the supernatant treatment 5 system which the project has installed in the vicinity 6 of the plant where the storage tanks are, the high-7 level waste vitrification facility itself, and then an 8 assortment of miscellaneous auxiliary structures and 9 systems that are associated with the plant .and the 10 operating facilities.

11 (Slide) The next slide shows the second 12 category of items to be evaluated. These are solid 13 and liquid waste management or disposal units. This 14 covucs radioactive waste storage structures, stored 15 solidified- high-level waste , --stored low-level waste 16 and stored true waste.

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18 area, the so-called NDA, that is used for project 19 waste, I didn't mention it in the initial discussion 20 when I showed that snapshot of the site that showed 21 the NDA, but if you remember it's somewhat horseshoe-22 shaped. The portion of that facility that's in the 23- horseshoe, some of it has been used by the project for 24 storage of project waste. So, that waste that ' was 25 stored there by the project will, of course, remain v

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2 Then there's a low-level liquid waste 3 treatment system that was part of the original 4 facility that the project is using for certain low-5 level waste treatment for operational things.

6 (Slide) The next slide then shows the 7 proposed alternatives that will be considered, in this 8 case the decontamination, decommissioning enclosure 9 activities. This will include, for the primary 10 building structures and systems, a whole series of 11~ options: decontamination for unrestricted use; 12 decontamination and sealing for restricted access-- 1

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13 that's sort of an entombment kind of option; 14 decontamination, demolition and in situ disposal; 15 decontamination, demolition and off-site. disposal; and 16 then the no action alternative which is, I'm sure you 17 recognize,. required by NEPA as opposed to be some 18 option that we would really seriously consider.

19 (Slide) Then in the category of solid and 20 liquid waste management of disposal units, the 21 alternatives include stabilization and closure; l

22 exhumation, repackaging and disposal;. or, again, the 23 no action option.

24 (Slide) The next slide shows a category of 25 alternatives that are associated specifically with

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. 2 within it alternatives for treating ' facilities and 3- -equipment that would produce waste. We ' ve . broken 4 these options out, just for information, to better 5 understand what's being planned.to discuss, the 6 options that we're' going to consider specifically for 7 disposal of waste.

8 This slide shows the. considerations for 9 options or alternatives f or ' disposal of waste other 10 th. .igh-level. The ones that we're looking 'a t are 11 fairly straightforward, on-site, off-site and interim 12 storage ,pending availability of some. other disposal 13 capacity, as well.as the no action alternative.

14 (Slide) The next slide . talks to the 15 transportation . of. . the stored high-level waste. This 16 provides us for the consideration of what I mentioned 17 was being considered early ship-out to an.-interim 18 storage site of the high-level waste, vitrified waste, 19 or on-site storage awaiting the availability of the 20 repository, or again the no action alternative.

21 (Slide) Then, finally, the last two slides 22 are devoted to a summary of the key areas of NRC 23 involvement. For the integrated radwaste treatment

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4 In the area of low-level waste storage and 5 disposal, a key item is the criteria for closure of 6 the West Valley Project, the item tha'- we tend to 7 refer to colloquially sort of as D&D criteria. Very 8 important. The evaluation of West Valley's approach 9 for low-level waste and TRU disposition. That has to 10 be a very key item.

11 (Slide) The final slide continues this 12 list. The sludge mobilization system, preparation of 13 a safety evaluation report prior to our hot operation

14 of that system. For " the vitrification system, 15 consultation on the-final waste form and also a safety 16 evaluation report prior to hot operation of that 17 system. When we get to the stage of waste 18 transportation, the certification of appropriate 19 casks, and then finally, in general, the ongoing 20 monitoring of DOE on-site activities. We're 21 continuing with that.

22 That concludes my prepared presentation.

23 I'd be glad to take questions now or, if you prefer, 24 let Mr. DeBoer proceed and take questions after.

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3 Questions of my colleagues?

4 Commissioner Roberts?

5 COMMISSIONER ROBERTS
No.

6 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Commissioner Carr?

7 COMMISSIONER CARR: Sure, I've got some 8 curiosity questions.

9 I gather you haven't produced any glass logs 10 yet.

11 MR. BAUBLITZ: That's right.

12 COMMISSIONER CARR: Well, what are you doing 13' .with the overflow from the supernatant treatment that 14 shows the drop down there?

- I mean you must be 15 generating something that -- -

16 MR. BAUBLITZ: The zeolite that is being 17 produced as we go along with the clean-up of the 18 supernatant is simply being stored. That will be 19 combined then with the sludge when we get ready for 20 vitrification.

21 COMMISSIONER CARR: Is it in the tank that 22 it's going to go to there to -- .

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3' the beds in this . tank and then out and over to the

.4 main ~ building. At the conclusion of a cycle, when we 5 need to change zeolite, we just drop the zeolite into 6' the bottom of this tank and just stay there until --

g 7 COMMISSIONER CARR: So, there will come a 8 . point in time-where if you can't vitrify, you're going 9 -- to have to stop when you fill that tank up, I guess?'

10 MR.'BAUBLITZ: I don't think they're linked 3 11. that.way,.no.

'12 .MR. THOMAS: They wouldn't fill the tank up.

L 13 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes, we won't fill the tank.

14 In other .words, we don't have to get vitrification

- 15 :- started by.a certain time to catch up with the zeolite 16- production.

17 COMMISSIONER C1:PR: Okay. And maybe 2 the

'18 other. question, you talk about campaigns, what's a 19 campaign? I gather this thing is not a continuous 20 process.

=21 MR. BAUBLITZ: It's a batch operation, in a 22 s e,n s e , yes. Our campaigns for the supernatant 23 treatment system had been running about what, about 24 four weeks, something like that?

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5 it.take between campaigns then?

6 MR. THOMAS: About two weeks.

7 COMMISSIONER CARR: The timetable for your 8 EIS that you're getting ready to run now, what'does 9- that look like?

10 MR. BAUBLITZ: We're anticipating that it 11 will' take us about four years to get all of .it 12 completed.

13 COMMISSIONER CARR: From today?

  • .a 14 MR. BAUBLITZ: From today. Dec" ember, it's 15 close to today. .

16 COMMISSIONER CARR: That's all I have right 17 now. .

18 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you.

19 Commissioner Rogers?

.20 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Well, I don't know 21 whether this would be answered in a later 22 presentation, but I was just curious,as to what the 23 timetable is for processing the supernatant because 24 there seems to be some slippage in the schedule, but

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, 11 cuparnstent docontaminstion and solidification proccus 2 extends into mid-1991 on your slide 17 here, while in 3 an earlier report that was supposed to be finished in 4 late 1989. Now, you mentioned some later dates for 5 completion of the full solidification.

6 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes, there were two different 7 things that have happened.

8 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: There are two 9 different aspects of this.

10 MR. BAUBLITZ: We essentially re-baselined 11 the whole project. In other words, we started 12 essentially with a fresh slate from the bottom up on 13 the project, about a year ago. We had experienced a couple of specific things with regard to the planning J' 14 15 for the vitrification design- and construction and 16 there were a number of other specific things that put 17 us well behind where our original target should have 18 been. So, at that time, we re-baselined the entire 19 project, came up with a new baseline and cost estimate 20 that was approved last summer and was the basis for my 21 discussion of last June, I guess. That was a delay

. 22 from the earlier information that you are probably 23 referring to that's had us completing supernatant l-l 24 processing in '89.

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2. this last spring and we're on track to meet the new 3 target as it's laid out here.

4 Now, the thing I mentioned at the outset was 5 that in preparing our 1990 budget, both for the year 6 1990 and the four subsequent years, because of the 7 shortness of overall dollars, we've had to stretch 8 everything out~significantly.- That has created a four 9 ' year stretch . to the tail end of the entire Phase I 10 project.

11 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: I see. Okay. How 12 many programs at DOE interact with the West Valley 13 Project? How many things have to be coordinated here

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15 MR.-BAUBLITZ: Well,-I guess --

16 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: --

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d7 MR. BAUBLITZ: --

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.1: informal link ~with the Defense Programs people who are

'. (, 2- developing vitrification f acilities .for the Defense 3~ waste program. That's more of a technical interface.

4 The interface with high-level waste people is 5 technical and procedural and administrative as well.

6 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Just those two then?

7 MR. BAUBLITZ: We have our Environment 8 Safety and Health Oversight people who have a close 9 role, for ex=mple, in the EIS process and those kind 10 of things. They have an important role in general

'11 safety oversight of our operation. So they're clearly 12 important too.

-, 13 I think those are the main ones. Have I ll 14 forgotten anybody important,

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i 15 DOCTOR COLEMAN: Other than the normal i 16 administrative and. environmental oversight.

17 MR. BAUBLITZ: We get a lot of advice from 18 the General Counsel as a routine matter. I guess we i

19 should throw him in.

20 A VOICE: Probably very helpful. Very good.

21 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Good advice like we get from

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l 23 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Does this all go 24 through a single contact point, at DOE?

25 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes. Our office is the focus

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2' COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Y e s.. There - aren ' t 3 multiple approaches to the people there?

4 MR. BAUBLITZ: No. I think we have a good 5 point of contact system established. I would say that 6 resolution of all the issues is not necessarily easy 7 and smooth, but I don't think we have problems 8 associated with interfaces.

9 COMMISSIONER CARR: On the waste form 10 suitability part of the problem, I gather from what 11 you told us that the cement waste form has been deemed 12 suitable by,all hands?

. 13 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes, sir, s,.

14 COMMISSIONER CARR: But'you're still working 15 on the classification waste form?

16 MR. BAUBLITZ: That's right and that's an 17 interesting issue because on one hand the Department 18 ' clearly wants to approach NRC and its licensing 19 process for the repository with a good story to tell, 20 having good data and good documentation, et cetera, et 21 cetera, on the waste to be produced.

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'5 there's probably legitimately less concern about the 6 quality of the West Valley glass logs than many of 7- these other things. But all of that notwithstanding, 8 .we are, in fact, conforming to this process so that we 9 will have a good documented record of what it is we're 10' producing.

11 COMMISSIONER CARR: So that view of yours is 12 not necessarily shared by your Office of Civilian ,

<> 13 Waste?

14 MR. BAUBLITZ: That's an accurate summary.

15 COMMISSIONER CARR: Right. So, there is 16 some liaison that's got to go on there?

17 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes, sir.

18 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Are there any overseas 19 sites that have similar approach to these problems to 20 the ones that you're adopting?

21 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes. There are facilities, I 22 guess, in Germany that use a similar melter system.

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, 3 experience with the system they're operating. So, 4 there is a fairly vigorous exchange of information 5 .there.

6 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: I think you may have 7 s a i d s o m e t h i'n g to it, but perhaps you could just 8 repeat it .i f you have, how you see the DOE 9 interactions with the NRC staff on matters relating to 10- West Valley. Have we provided appropriate guidance in 11 a timely fashion, for example?

1,2 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes. I feel strongly that

s 13 the interface 'there has been good, that the staff 14 responses have been good and that it's been a positive 15 working relationship. I think that's gone well.

16 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you..

17 Commissioner Curtiss?

18 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Just a couple of 19 quick questions. On the waste form and the container 20 design, what's the pacing item now on the container

21. design? I guess I'm curious of your thoughts on 22 whether we're going to end up with a single container 23 that the civilian waste, the Defense vitrified waste 24 and this waste will be placed in for the repository or

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ps There is a canister into which the liquid waste will 2

f-- a 3 be poured and then there will be some' kind of a I

-4 container which will be part of-its ultimate package 5 for disposal. The canister right now for the Uest 6 Valley Project is very similar to the canister that

.7- will be used f or - the Defense waste facilities but 8 slightly different. We are looking right now at 9 whether or not some modifications to the canisters for l 10 West Valley could be done simply and cheaply that 11 would make them really the same. The idea there is if l 12 that were possible, there might clearly be some cost

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16 Now, separate from that, the repository 17- program is looking at the question of containers that 18 would be part of the disposal package. We're only 19 generally aware of what they're doing there. I really 20 couldn't give you much good information on where they 21 stand on their development of containers.

22 COMMISSION'ER CURTISS: Do you intend to take 23 any credit for the canister that you're developing in j 1

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2 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Just the container.

3 DOCTOR COLEMAN: It's not one of the 4 concerns we have under study. That's a repository 5 responsibility. The canister, as we view it, is 6 primarily for containment of the glass and for 7 handling and transportation and storage purposes.

8 Beyond that, I think you'd have to refer to the 9 repository program, what they're looking toward the 10 primary canister for.

11 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: The date that you 12 gave for sending the material to the repository, 2009, 13 is the pacing item for that the waste acceptance 14 schedule or is there something else that pushes that 15 out six years beyond when it opens?

16 MR. BAUSLITZ: Our understanding with the 17 repository people is that the first that they would be 18 ready to accept waste from West Valley would be six 19 years or five years, whatever it is, after they 20 initially open.

21 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: One other question.

22 Could you briefly discuss what kind of QA program you 23 have in place?

24 MR. BAUBLITZ: Maybe I'll defer that to Roy 25 Thomas to describe the QA program.

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I 9 should be finished within, oh, the next six to nine q 10- ' months.

11 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Well, I'm pleased to hear 12 that you believe you're, getting a cooperative and 13 positive results from your relationship with the NRC 14 staff.

15 The slip in your schedule for four years 16 because of the budget impacts from 1994 to 1998, do 17 you see any safety concerns in that slippage at all?

18 MR. BAUBLITZ: No, sir. The impacts are i

19 ' associated with delays in getting the vitrification 20 equipment procured, installed and operating. That 21 requires some big bucks in fiscal '90 and '91. Those 22 are the two peak years. By having the dollars in 23 those two years reduced, it cau.ses significant chunks 24 of the project to move out. But there w o u '. be no O 25 safety concern at all, no, sir.

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'2. Commissioners.have already asked questions about your 3: relationships in DOE, the various offices you have 4 involved with waste matters, your offices and the 5 Office,of Nuclear Energy. We interface, as.you know, 6 with the Office- of Civilian Radioactive Waste 7 Management as far as a repository is concerned. We're j

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9 responsibilities for Savannah River and you mention 10 other DOE offices that have responsibilities.

11 It seems to me that you=do have a challenge 12 as far as interacting with all those offices in DOE to ,

H 13 make sure that you have an in.tegrated program.

14 Although that certainly --

in your area of 15 responsibility, I would hope that you are interfacing 16 closely with those other offices because they come 17 over and make presentations to us too and we would 13 like to feel like we're getting a consistent DOE 19 position. I would just encourage you to interface 20 with those offices. I know they may have different 21 views, but it's important that you have a consistent 22 view. I would encourage you to do tha't.

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3 Do you see a mixed waste problem coming out-4 of this before we'.re through?

5 MR. BAUBLITZ: Not at this time. We have 6 entered into dialogue with those parts of the New York 7 State agencies that have those kind of 8 responsibilities, as well as EPA Region II with regard 9 to the possibility of needing permits under RCRA, for 10 example, on the site and so forth. Everything that's 11 developed so far does'not indicate that we would have 12 a mixed waste problem.

"; 13 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay. Because I noticed 14 in our letter we cautioned you to consider any mixed 15 waste, but as far as you know there isn't any, right?

16 MR. BAUBLITZ: It hasn't reared its ugly 17 head so far. We're certainly keeping in tune with 18 that possibility because it is a special case.

19 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay. And it looks like 20 that we owe you something in determining whether the 21 cement stabilized waste is TRU or low-level waste. Do 22 we owe you that decision, and if so, when by?

23 MR. BAUBLITZ: I would have to admit I think 24 that the ball is more in our court than yours at this I

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3 the basis for that determination, we hope?'

4 MR. BAUBLITZ: That's right. That's right.

. 5 COMMISSIONER CARR: Do you have any idea 6 when you're going to do that?

7 MR. BAUBLITZ: It's part of the process that 8 will be involved in supporting analyses'that will go 9 into the EIS. So, it's certainly in the next few 10 years. But at ' this point in time, we don't have a 11 finer tune on that.

12 COMMISSIONER CARR: Well, another thing, I

,. s 13 would say that in your EIS draft which we looked at, I 14 'certainly commend you and our guys both for the total 15 site approach. I think there's no reason not to, once 16 you turn loose this thing, have it fixed whichever way 17 it goes. So I think you're going the right direction 18 on that. I'm sorry it's going to take four years.

19 CHAIRMAN ZECH: I would agree with the total 20 site approach too. I noted that and commend you for 21 that.

22 MR. BAUBLI'Z: T Thank you.

23 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Any other comments before we 24 proceed?

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2 It is a pleasure to be here today. I will 3 discuss the state activities associated with the 4 preparation of the Environmental, Impact Statement for 5 completion of the West Valley Demonstration Project 6' -and closure of the Western New York Nuclear Service 7 Center.

8 With me today is Mr. Howard Jack, the Energy 9 Authority's Secretary and General Counsel.

10 (Slide) Next slide, please.

11 This is a layout of the Western New York 12 Nuclear Service Center and the site is commonly called 13 the West Valley site. Almost all the facilities are 14 clustered in an approximately 200 acre area near the 15 center' of the site. For the duration of the 16 demonstration project, the Department of Energy has 17 possession and control of almost all of the 200 acres 18 with the exception of the state licensed disposal 19 area. That is known as the project premises.

20 The remaining 3,000 acres of the site, 21 including the state disposal area, is under the l

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23 (Slide) Next viewgraph.

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3 separate them, as well as most of the f acilities ' at 4 the' site. So, this is about the only way you could 5 really address all the issues and address closure of L 6- the site, would be through joint cooperation. It 7 would be very difficult to separate out what you are 8 going to do with the closure or stabilization of 9 individual facilities 10 Even though the NRC licensed disposal area 11 is within the project premises, the Energy Authority

'12 has some . responsibility ,for the decontamination and q, 13 decommissioning of that area.

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14 COMMISSIONER CARR: How big is that New York 15 State low-level waste disposal area itself?

16 MR. DeBOER: It's about 400 by 500 feet.

17 Not much,'just a few acres, I think.

18 (Slide) Next viewgraph.

19 In addition to being involved with the 20 Department of Energy in the West Valley Demonstration 21 Project activities outlined by Mr. Baublitz, the state 22 activities that we will be pursuing include the 23 decontamination and decommissioning of the balance of 24 the center, which includes the state-licensed disposal k.- .25 area, the portion of the NRC-licensed disposal area NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRAN5CRitER$

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5 Another activity would be repossession of 6 the project premises, taking it over from DOE, 7 transfer from DOE to the Energy Authority and then .

8 long-term management of the center..

9 (Slide) Next slide.

10 State-licensed disposal area was operated by 11 . Nuclear Fuel Services from 1963 to 1975 as a 12 commercial disposal facility. Total volume disposed p- 13 was approximately 87,000 cubic yards or 2.4 million e4, 14 cubic feet of low-level waste. Since March 1983, it 15 has been maintained and we are responsible for the i

16 state-licensed disposal area. It is licensed by our 17 State Department of Environmental Co'nservation and our 18 State Department of Labor.

19 (Slide) Next slide.

20 This picture shows the state-licensed 21 disposal area. It consists of 14 trenches.

22 Traditional shallow land burial techniques were used.

23 The trenches are approximately 30 feet wide, 20 feet 24 deep and 400 to 600 feet long. Trenches 6 and 7 y, ;.

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-3 s the . re' t of the trenches. These were done on the 4 basis of specic.1 approvals by the regulatory agencies 5 and that consists mostly of reactor components.

6 ' COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Are those squiggly 7 lines creeks or rivers?

8 MR. DeBOER: No, that's one thing I was 9 . going to point. They're ravines. On the north side 10 of the disposal area, at the end of 2, 3, 4 and 5, and 11 about 20 to 30 yards only from the ends of those 12 trenches, is about a 30 foot drop-off down to a stream 13 >n.the bottom. On the east side of the disposal area, 14 it drops off about 10 feet to a stream.

15 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Is the north 16 downgraded on this hart?

17 MR. DeBOER: North is --

18 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Is it the way the 19 water flows?

20 MR. DeBOER: Yes, that is the direction in 21 which the hydrogeological eb.n, acteristics of the soil 22 dictate the water flow.

23 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Do you monitor in 24 that direction for ground water 2 25 MR. DeBOER: Yes. There are streams on both

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3 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: What are you finding?

'4 MR. DeBOER: The site has been -- is well 5 under control and no elevated levels of radionuclides.

6 But as you can see, that presents one of their biggest 7 problems and challenges in closing the site, the 8 erosion and landsliding being two major 9 considerations. The caps on the trenches are about 10 eight feet thick and they're covered with a good stand 11 of grass at the moment.

12 (Slide) Next slide.

13 This just gives you an idea of some of ';he 14 materials that were buried in the disposal area and, 15 of course, these all have to be ccnsidered in looking 16 at the various alternatives and closure options.

17 Source materials is 470,000 kilograms. That's mostly 18 depleted uranium with some natural uranium. Included L

i 19 in that is about 1235 kilograms of U-235.

20 Plutonium is five kilograms and two 21 kilograms . of that are two snap reactors or power 22 generators that were placed in the disposal area.

23 Enriched uranium, that was a ten percent 24 enrichment roughly, the 487 kilograms.

25 By-product materials were 700,000 curies

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A 3 are tritium, cobalt 60, strontium 90, cesium, and 4 carbon'14.

5 Then there are some radium and americium 6 tources that make up the bulk of the 500 curies.

7 (Slide) Next slide.

8 The NRC-licensed disposal area, that was put 9 into operation for disposal of plant-generated wastes 10' that were too high-level to be put into the commercial 11 disposal area. But_while the state-licensed disposal 12 area was operating, Nuclear Fuel Services did put all

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14 .irposal area into that facility. The state disposal

'15 area was shut down in 1975. So, after 1975 and from 16 1975 through 1981, all of the plant generated waste 17 went into the NRC disposal area. The total volume 18 there was about 150,000 cubic feet or 5,600 cubic 19 yards.

20 (Slide) Next slide.

21 This is a layout of the NFC licensed 22 disposal area. As Mr. Baublitz mentioned, the NFS 23 wastes were placed in a horseshoe around the outer 24 edge of the facility and the demonstration project did 25 dispose of some real low-level class A wastes in the

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4 In 'the area, most of the radioactivity was 5 .the cladding hulls which'came from the reprocessing of 6 the spent fuel. The method used primarily to dispose 7 of waste here was to dig holes that were about three 8 feet by seven feet and 50 feet deep with a clamshell.

'9 Most of the wastes were put in there in 55 gallon 10 drums. Also in the' hulls and ends hulls area, 42 11 Hanford 'end fuel elements found their way into the 12 disposal area and they are contained in three 55 13' gallon drums encased in concrete down at the bottom of 14- one of those holes.

15 COMMISSIONER CURTISS- Do you have a feel 16 for how deep these holes are?

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17 MR. DeBOER: Fifty feet.

18 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Fifty feet? That's 19 the deepest depth s' which waste is buried here?

20 MR. DeBOER: Yes.

21 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Okay.

22 MR. DeBOER: And on the state disposal area, 23 it was 20 feet. There also are a number of holes in 24 this area, shallow holes that were dug to put specific

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5 There's some -- we think there are 26 tanks in the 6 facility and placed.in nine separate holes.

7 (Slide) Next slide.

8 COMMISSIONER CARR: The data they gave me 9 said that instead of three 55 gallon d.ums, those were 10 three 30 gallon drums. That's just for your 11 information.

i' 12 MR. DeBOER: Okay. That may be right.

13 COMMISSIONER CARR: I'm sure nobody's looked 14 at them.

15 MR. beBbER:: The next slide gives some idea 16 of what materials are in the NRC-licensed disposal 17 area. Source materials, 1800 kilograms. That's 18 mostly the U-238. That came from the cladding hulls 19 that was left in.

20 The uranium fissionable, 23 kilograms.

21 About 3.3 of that is the fuel and 20 kilograms would 22 Le in the hulls, i

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.1 radionuclides that are there now as far as by-product-2' ' materials are cobalt 60, strontium 90.and cesium 137.

3' Reprocessing solvent, the best we can I

& 4 determine from the records is that about 13,000 l 5 gallons of the spent solvent, which was tributyl

.6 phosphate and kerosene, ended up in that disposal 7 area.

8 COMMISSIONER CARR: Is that in a tank or is

'9 that.just --

10 MR. DeBOER: They're in - thousand gallon-

- 11 tanks. It's our understanding that 500 gallons of the 12 solvent were mixed with the absorbent material in 13 those tanks. There was some migration noted in 1983 14 and the Department of Energy took quick action and 15 ' identified what the source of the kerosene was'and two 16 holes were exhumed. I think it was a total of eight 17 tanks had been exhumed.

4 18 (Slide) Next slide, please.

19 Some of the alternatives that we will be 20 considering for the two areas --

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t'h i Sa- 2 Nuclear Fuel Services had with the NRC was suspended

<. s 3 on February 25th, 1982 when Department.of Energy took 4 possession .and control of those project premises.

5 And, upon completion of the demonstration project, the 6 project premises will be returned to the Energy 7 Author,ity and NRC licensing action is required. Some 8 sort of an NRC licensing action would be required-and

, 9 it is not certain at this point whether state 10 licensing action would be required.

11 (Slide) Next slide.

12 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Excuse me. What would 13- be the issues that would have to be decided to resolve 14 those questions?

15 MR. JACK: If I could, Comhnissioner . The 16 primary question will be, depending on what is 17 determined through' the Environmental Impact Statement 18 analysis and decision-making process, what kinds of 19 materials will remain on site or are proposed to 20 remain on site and then how does that affect whether 21 the NRC will then have jurisdiction over th se 22 portions of the site or whether the state, as an 23 agreement state, will have jurisdiction over continued 24 regulation of it.

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1 3 in closing the entire 3,345 acre site are -- well, it 4 was just mentioned the amount and type of radioactive 5 material to be left at the site and the surveillance 6 and monitoring programs and requirements that will be 7 necessary in the future and also consideration of what 8 areas can be released for unrestricted use, if any.

9 All of these will have to be considered in the 10 Environmental Impact Statement.

11 COMMISSIONER CARR: Is it a given that some 12 amount and type of radioactive material will be left-g- 13 there?

14 MR. DeBOER: When you look at the potential

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15 impacts and costs of exhuming everything that is at 16 the site, it leads you to think that that may be 17' something that may happen. But, of. course, this will 18 not be determined until the Environmental Impact 19 Statement is completed.

20 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay.

21 CHAIRMAN ZECH: What would the levels be 22 that might remain under those circumstances?

23 MR. DeBOER: I think it depends on the--

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1 -- already prescribed the performance objectives.

l' 2 CHAIRMAN ZECH: But you'd intend to meet 3 tho'se' requirements, is what I'm saying.

4- MR. DeBOER: Yes.

.5 COMMISSIONER CARR: But it's a cost trade-6 off is:what you're telling me?

7 MR. DeBOER: It's a -- pardon me?

8- COMMISSIONER CARR: A cost trade-off as to 9 whether it's complete --

10 MR. DeBOER: Well, cost and also if you did

'11 exhume it, where would you . put it? Many of these 12 materials would not be acceptable -- most of the H 13 materials would not be acceptable in the new state-14 licensed disposal area or any commercial disposal 15 area. I don't know whe[e you would -- '

16 COMMISSIONER CARR: No place to put them 17 then?

13 MR. DeBOER: That's one of the big 19 considerations. And the personnel exposures, of 20- course, the worker exposures.

21 COMMISSIONER CARR: But this is what the EIS 22 is designed to work out.

23 MR. DeBOER: Yes.

24 MR. JACK: Another question would be what c

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3 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay.

4 MR. DeBOER: (Slide) Next sliSte, please.

5 We were asked to discuss some of our issues 6 and concerns that we had. The key areas of NRC

'7 involvement that were identified by Mr. Baublitz are 8 - obviously. those that'we are very interested in. The 9 . licensing action upon completion of the demonstration 10' project' and the funding of the project, we are very 11 displeased with the OMB action that just is occurring

'12 with the fiscal' year '90' budget and which has resulted.

13. apparently in the extension of the . project for four 14 years'. We hope that in 1991, the availability of.

15 dollars will be restored to reduce the impact on the 16 project.

17 .COMMISSI.ONER CURTISS: Is your ten percent 18 share constrained by state funding limitations or are 19 you pretty much able to get the necessary funds?

20 MR. DeBOER: Our Junds are appropriated year 21 annually, the same way that the federal funds are. So 22- 10- all our funds have been appropriated.

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3- MR. JACK: We are doing our best to get full

'4' appropriations from the state for our share and we 5 have not been advised of any problem in getting that.

6 MR. DeBOER: And the availability. of - the 7 high-level waste repository, unless the glass high-

.8 level waste canisters produced at West Valley are 9 taken to some interim storage facility, then any 4

10 slippage in the licensing or operation of the high-11 level waste repository will impact the Demonstration 12 Project and our cost.

j- 13 The final one is the high-level waste form 14 . acceptance ' specifications , Here we disagree with 15 Department of Energy and in particular RW. DOE 16 estimates that two-thirds of the spent fuel in the 17 first repository -- or two-thirds of the waste in the 18 first repository will be spent fuel and one-third will 19 be the glass. The plans that I have seen call for 20 over-packing the spent fuel.

21 In developing of the waste acceptance i 22 specifications, DOE RW appears to have completely 23 ignored the presence of the spent fuel and have 24 established criteria which are quite restrictive, in

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'4. Millions of dollars have been-spent and are L5 being spent to meet these waste acceptance 6 specifications. Since almost any glass that we make 7 at West Valley or Savannah Riv+;" or Hanford will have  !

'8 ' waste form properties that are _sr superior to spent 9 fuel and will be going to the same repository, we in i l

10, the Energy Authority in New York feel that it is 11 really. unreasonable and extremely wasteful to require 12' these ultra conservative specifications.

<.,. 13 CHAIRMAN ZECH: DOE wish to comment?

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14 MR. BAUBLITZ: We recogr.ize 'the Energy 15 Authority's position on this and, as I indicated 16 before, we also recognize that it-is an issue and 17 questions can be raised. But our position is that we 18 recognize the need for DOE as a whole to be able to 1

19, deal consistently with the Commission and others in l

20 terms of making judgments about the adequacy of the 21 repository for the waste forms. So, we're doing our 22 best to meet the needs of that process while keeping 23 the costs as under control as we can.

24 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Does New York have any

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2 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right.

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'4 comments.

5 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much.

6 Comments from my fellow Commissioners?

7 Commissioner Roberts?

8 Commissioner Carr?.

i 9 COMMISSIONER 'CARR: I'm trying to get this

'10 thing in perspective. You're running a demonstration 11 project to show that this can be done and, 12 incidentally, get rid of those two tanks of high-level 13 waste, right?

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15. COMMISSIONER CARR: That's one piece of the 16 action and when that's done, you're required to clean l' it up.

18 MR. DeBOER: Yes.

19 COMMISSIONER CARR: That piece of the 20 action, those two tanks plus the plan, I guess.

21 MR. BAUBLITZ: The general definition has 22 been the things that we used to solidify waste in the 23 first place, which is generally the plan and then the 24 extra facilities that we created to do it.

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,3 is yet in the sense that we have to go through this 4 analysis ~ and .look at alternatives and so forth. We 5 .believe technically everything we know right now is 6 that technically an on-site disposal should be 7 sufficient in the technical criteria, but that has to 8 be demonstrated and meet the requirements of the

'9- environmental review process. .

10 COMMISSIONER CARR: So, it may be the 11 solution to that problem is when you get through you 12 just leave it "here it is, depending on what the EIS 13 comes out with?

14 MR. BAUBLITZ: 'I'm talking about the waste 15 that is created as part of the project.

16 COMMISSIONER CARR: That's what I'm talking 17 about.

18 MR. BAUBLITZ: As opposed to the stuff that 19 was there before.

20 COMMISSIONER CARR: You changed the form of 21 it.

22 MR. BAUBLITZ: Right.

23 COMMISSIONER CARR: And hopefully you'll be 24 able to ship it to a repository, that high-level waste L.' 25 portion of it, the glass. The concrete is low-level

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,[ .2 MR. BAUBLITZ: Right.

3 COMMISSIONER CARR: And so it may be just as '

4 easy to leave it there as it is to ship it, depending (

5 on what'the EIS comes out with.

6 MR. BAUBLITZ: That's correct.

7 COMMISSIONER CARR: I guess I'm really 8 trying to figure out what kind of a problem we're 9 trying to solve.

e 10 Certainly one aspect of the MR. BAUBLITZ:

11 problem is dealing effectively with what I would call 12 local community and elected representatives' concerns 13 about what we're doing and how we're doing it. You 14 might appreciate that from the perspective of those 15 that live and represent those that live in the area, 16 their perspective is that the right thing to do is 17 simply get'everyth.ing that's there now away, out.

18 COMMISSIO'.4ER CARR: Completely?

19 MR. BAl'3LITZ : Completely.

20 COMMISSIONER CARR: Well, that's objective 21 one.

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2 -options and then come to some formal. conclusion.in a 3' public arena kind of way to decide, okay, here is 4 . exactly what we will do and why.

5 As I said earlier, from a technical point of i 6- view, from everything we know right now, there really 7 .would be no reason we would not be able to dispose of 8 the low-level waste produced by the project on-site.

.9. But it has to meet the muster of that process.

10 COMMISSIONER CARR: Well, even if you take 11 the low-level waste produced by the project and get 12 rid of it somewhere else, plus your high-level waste y, 13 that you've solidified and get rid of it, plus your a.

14 concrets and get rid of it, there's still a major 15 problem up there.

16 MR. BAUBLITZ: Yes.

17 COMMISSIONER CARR: That's not part of what 18 we're addressing except we're trying'to include it all 19 in the same project now.

20 MR. BAUBLITZ: That's correct. The analysis 21' that's going to go on will include that --

22 COMMISSIONER CARR: But the law is only 23 forcing us to do the first part of this.

24- MR. BAUBLITZ: That's correct.

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3 first part of it.

4 COMMISSIONER CARR: That's right.

5 MR. JACK: However, the State of New York, 6 we will have to satisfy the Commission with resp 3et to 7 those portions of the site which are licensed by the 8 Commission but are not part of the project, including 9 the previously disposed of waste in the NRC licensed 10 disposal area. And then we will have to satisfy --

11 COMMISSIONER CARR: You'- got two licensed 12 areas up there and we s'till have to t y about it.

1 13 MR. JACK: Right. Then we have the state-

'14 licenced low-level radioactive disposal facility and 15' we have to satisfy the regulatory concerns over 16 closure of that portion of the site, on the state 17 side. Again, outside, that's not part of the federal 18 objective.

19 COMMISSIONER CARR: So, we've got a lot of 20 hurdles.to cross before we're ever going to take that 21 fence down.

22 MR. JACK: That's correct.

23 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay.

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  • Yet the West Valley 3 per gram of . actonides in them.

'4 Demonstration Project Act of 1980 puts a restriction 5 of . ten nanocuries per gram on storage on the site. - )

i 6 What's your anoroach to that?

1-L- 7 MR. BAUBLITZ: Well, there's another part to  ;

8 what.the act says about that. It says ten nanocuries I

9 per gram or some other limit as prescribed by the 10 Commission. What 's' currently in process is we're 11 undertaking an analysis of the waste that's being 12 produced that's in this 30 to 40 range and will 13 present to the Commission an analysis that we hope 14 will support disposal at the site of that waste. But 15 that has to be proven, 16 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: But that's not done 17 yet?

18 MR. BAUBLITZ: Correct.

19 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: I see.

20 Mr. DeBoer, I guess. On your February 9th 21 public scoping meeting, did anything come out of that

'22 that suggests some new approaches or new questions 23 that had to be dealt with?

24 MR. DeBOER: These are being evaluated by

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=2 MR. BAUBLITZ: There were no.surpris.es, but L 4 3_ we. haven't completed, I guess, the full resolution of a

4- all comments. But ' there was. nothing really new in 5 that, some startling new alternative or a new issue'or 6 anything like'that.

7 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Okay. Thank you.

8- COMMISSIONER CARR: Could I ask you what l 9- this whole site was' set aside for in the first place, ,

L '10 this how many hundred acres there were there?  ;

11 MR. DeBOER: 3,345. It was set aside to be,

- 12 as we ' understand it, a- complete nuclear facility, 13 starting out with fuel reprocessing. And I think 14 .-- there:were thoughts of having other nuclear facilities

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21. aside to be something nuclear, even though they didn't 22 know what it was going to be, I guess. And it's still 23 set aside for that purpose?

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5 MR. THOMAS: Currently approximately 500 6 people.

7 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: 500 people. And the 8 New York State --

9 . MR. DeBOER: We have on-site a two person

'10 office who work very closely' with the Department of 11 Energy's on-site office. Then, in Albany, I have a 12 staff of four.

13 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Well, do they work

-14 just on this?

15 MR. DeBOER: Two of t$e people in Albany 16 work just.on the Demonstration Project and'others are 17 part-time, as well as support from counsel and others 18 that are part'of the Energy Authority.

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COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Okay. Thank you.

20 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much.

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5 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right.

6 MR. DeBOER: And- the NRC support is very 7 valuable and continued interactions and support in the 8 future I think would be very valuable also.

9 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. . Fine. Thank 10 you.

11 Well, let me just say, unless there are any 12 questions of my fellow Commissioners, on behalf of the q, 13 Commission I'd like to thank you, Mr. Baublitz, and 14 you, Mr. DeBoer, and the other gentlemen with you here 15 today for a very useful and informative briefing. The l 16 Commission is' pleased to hear that the project 17 activities seem to be progressing very satisfactorily. j 18 The Commission earlier complimented the 19 ' Department of Energy for the site-wide approach that 20 they're taking. I think it would also be appropriate 21 for the Commission to compliment the State of New York 22 for their adopting a site-wide approach to this ,

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3. and to see'that-progress.is being made, even though we l 4- recognize that there's'still. issues to be addressed. l 5 I believe that we can.be encouraged.by the 6 efforts being put. forward'by the Department of Energy .j 7 'and' by . the State of New York across the board. And 8 again, I compliment you both for taking what would

. 9 certainly appear to be a site-wide approach to the l'O' . whole. endeavor.

11. The West Valley Demonstration Project will

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16 forward to the Commission regarding the West Valley 17 Project.

18 But thank you very much for a very useful 19 and informative presentation.

20 If there are no other comments from my 21 colleagues, we stand adjourned. Thank you, gentlemen.

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