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APR 1 6 1985 MEMORANDUM FOR:
Herbert H. Livermore. QA/QC Group Leader Comanche Peak Technical Review Team FROM:
Vincent S. Noonan, Director Comanche Peak Project Attached are transcripts of depositions of $$4MTJAMEMMMTf8552d
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They were provided to me oy GAP and Irwas informed that the transcripts include information which might effect some of our technical findings.
f I have had the EG&G record review group read them and identify key elements, (see attached work sheet), but I feel that it would be worthwhile for you to also read these documents first-hand.
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"For the record, this is an intery.iew of for the purpose of aroviding feedback regarding Technical Review Team as::essment of certain concerns raised abcut the Ccmanche Pea,k facility.
"The 1ccation of this interview is "Presenc at this interview are (names /crganizations)"
"As agreed, this interview is being transcribed.
Describe mission of TRT "I wisn to clarify details of your employment at Ccmanche Peak" (Obtain details of employment /cualificaticns
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Conclusion of Proceedings "The results of our evaluation will be published in a SSER wnich w ll i be available abcut January i,1785" "Where appropriate we will require corrective action by TUGCO.'
"Do you have anything further you would like to add for the record?
"Have we adequately covered your concerns?
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"Do you have additional concerns?'"
"Have you given this statement to us today freely and voluntarily?"
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TELEPHONE C0tiVERSATION RECORD Party Called: A-20 11/7/84 9PM A man answered the phone.
I asked for A-20, he said that he did not know this person.
(On 8/24/84, I called the same number and talked to a man who claimed to be A-20's father.
I left a message for A-20 then.)
I therefore asked the man if he had recently had this telephone installed.
He said he had it for 16 years.
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I asked for A-20, he said that he did not know this person.
(On 8/24/84, I called the same number and talked to a man who claimed to be A-20's father,7 left a message for A-20 then.)
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SUMMARY
OE. 10/31/84 TELEPHONE INTERVIEW WITH ALLEGERS m yt r fr:1 ANC N IS 1.
Interview with sN At 7:00 p.m., 10/31/84, a telephone interview was held.
The attendees were:
D. Jeng, R. Philleo, R. C. Tang,? if @ M N _
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6 Upon introduction of participants' names, title, responsibilities and work experience, the TRT reviewer Mr. Philleo explained in great detail the basis for TRT's disposition of Allegations AC-22 and AC-23 (Category 2 of Civil / Structure SSER).
Basic approach used by TRT was to randomly pick 23 packages of concrete placement records and examine any irregularities or non-conformance reports.
Fifteen non-conformance reports were identified and disposed of adequately according to established procedures.
The alleger was also informed that TRT staff's field inspection trip showed no degradation of concrete.
Two QC inspectors interviewed also confirmed that necessary procedures were followed in placing concrete during the pe'riod they were directly involved.
The alleger felt that TRT has correctly interpretedD< concern and has adequately resolved the concern.
A copy of SSER wili tie sent terwn +1 as a basis for closing the allegations. ---agreed to have'tne transcript of the interview made available to the public.
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Interview with5 4 E.W W [ q u At 8:00 p.m. 10/31/84, a telephone interview was held withi N J
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With recard to.AQC-13, AQC-14, AC-18 and AC-40, C. Hofmayer explained to
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It appears EJ ra that the concer'ns were clearly and correctly interireted by the TRT.
However, the alleger did not agree to the bases and conclusions drawn by TRT on the nuniber of unauthorized holes drilled and number of unauthorized rebars cut. m suggested some other approach to the TRT.
Upon review of~9sugges'tfon, TRT reviewer will propose needed followup actions.
With regard to AC-31 related to hanger inserts, Mr. Philleo (TRT reviewer) explained the basis for TRT resolutions.
The phone communication was rather difficult at times to carry on an effective dialogue.
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The item will be followed up elsewhere.
AC-43 was not raised because of the agreement that a second meeting will be scheduled to handle all unresolved issues.
Based on the phone conversation, the Civil / Structural staff came to a con-i clusion that the next meeting should be a direct meeting and should involve an option of a joint plant trip between TRT reviewers and the alleger.
This point was conveyed to R. C. Tang for her followup.
Another impression obtained through the interview is that the closure of issues with allegers will be a tedious, time consuming effort and one should not underestimate both the time and resources needed for this task.
C. Hofmayer and R. Philleo will work with D. Jeng by 11/5/84 to define specific steps to be taken on the above issues.
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"The lccation of this interview is "Present at this interview are (names /drganizations)"
'As agreed, this interview is being transcribed.
Describe mission of TRT '
"I wish to clarify details of your employment at Comanche Peak" (Obtain details of employment / qualifications W ~< t
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Conclusion of Prcceedir.gs "The results of our evaluation will be published.!n a SSER anich will be available abcut January 1, 1785" "Where appropriate we will require corrective action by TUGCO."
"Do you have anything further you woulo like to add for the record?
"Have we adequately covered your concerns?
"Do you have additional concerns?'"
"Have you given this statement to us today freely and voluntarily?"
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Administrative Guicance J
Ask if indivicual wants cc;'y of transcript., advise them that ranscript will be part of public recccc (except for confidential sources, or if they request confidentiality).
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Guidance Limit to topic of interest Ask:
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Be sure individual appreciates the importance cf his concern (s) and the staff / technical effort expended to review and evaluate.
o Be sure individual understands we will require corrective action and that we are dedicated to safety.
When presenting negative finding 1 (i.e., when allegations are found to be of no merit), do not tell jndividuals that they are "wrcr.g",
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