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Testimony of K Toscani,K Feit & L Culpepper Re Observations Made During 830309 Radiological Emergency Response Plan Exercise
ML20073H159
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Site: Indian Point  Entergy icon.png
Issue date: 04/11/1983
From: Culpepper L, Feit K, Toscani K
PARENTS CONCERNED ABOUT INDIAN POINT
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, 1 s OBSERVATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS FROM THE MARCH 9,1983 DRILL OF THE INDIAN POINT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AT THE CROTON ON-HUDSON POLICE DEPARTMENT None of the following relfects on the , abilities of the Croton Police Department.

They took the Drill seriously and performed the duties required.

The following are the observations and conclusions of observers Kathy Toscani, Katherine Feit, and Lee Culpepper.

1. Communication prnblems with Hawthorne Police Headquarters were evident because they were so garbled.
2. A 10 year old Motorola radin had been installed a day before the Drill to help with Police Department communication with other police departemnts countywide.
3. At least ten calls were received after the stren sounding. The public was assured it was only a test.

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4. An Emergency Operation Center is needed such as Oss1&ing Police are attempting to imp 11 ment.
5. Siren malfunctinning was a problem as was the seemingly lack of their sounding the full three minutes.
6. Traffic problems on Routes 9 and 9A were noted; miles of traffic backed up, all at different times of the day. This proves the roads in this area would not be addquate for an evacuation.
7. The personnel's comments evidenced their knowledge of the invisibility of radiation. A conclusion drawn from this was lack of protective measures for them.
8. It was noted that the copy from the Municipal Building of the Emergency Response Plan, thick in size, is not even page numbered. The conclusion is that numbering the pages would make sense.
9. A problem arnse regarding evacuation maps. Croton Police have a blue map; Ossining seems to have a red one. Lack of coordination between the police departments vnuld be a vast prnblem during a rea'. evacuation. Jurisdiction problems also arose as to who services certain sections of the evacuation maps.

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OBSERVATIONS OF THE 1983 INDIAN POINT DRILL AT THE CROTON-03-HUDSON IVLICE DEPARTMENT

1. Kathy Toscani, member of Parents Concerned About Indian Point, was an observor for the first few hours on March 9.

The Drill was daclared started at 8:27 with the Alert Stage.

2. Police Chief Reginald Lambruschi commented that the County sent and installed a hbtorola radin yesterday. It is a 10 year nid radio.
3. Village Manager Herbek nnted that it takes a Drill to get anything done.

Traffic on Routes 9 and (A a mess this morning.

The river ought to be used for evacuation.

4. Mr. Herbek and Sargeant Doran saying that the traffic is so terrible on Route 9 that it is at a standstill.
5. Sargegnt Doran said that he heard on the radio someone got " radiated"; sent to hospital; decontaminated; sent home. It would be good th hear of it here in the Police Station even though it has no impact on us.
6. The Chief asked Sargeant Dnran if he understood the last transmission? This indicates communication prnblems.
7. A phone call informed the Sargeant that 9A South is at a complete standstill.
8. Fr. Herbek asked the Chief if any press was expected to which the Chief replied nn.
9. Mr. Herbek asked if this (the Police Station) was the Emergency Ronm? The Chief replied yes, but it is wrong. We should Take " top brass" as in the army and set up in one ronm. Fr. Herbek agreed. The Sargeant thought that the Armony would a

be the best place for protection. Mr. Herbek said that the windows here won't keep radiation out. The Chief said some radiation won't penitrate. The Police men on the roads have dosimeters.

10. Bayor Price came in and Chief Lambruschi told him of the "new" 10 year old radio from the county for better communication between Police Departments.

! 11. fhe Mayor said kiddingly, "Did you take your iodide pill?"

The Chief replied, "It vnuidn't do much."

12. Mr. Herbek asked if we have a copy of the Emergency Response Plan?

' Mr. Gaglietti said he thought so; would go upstairs to the Fbnicipal Building to get it. Mr. Herbek thought they should have it to refer to during the day.

This is a drill. County

13. 9:10: Radin transmission: "This is a dell 1. Send the children Executive has declared all schnois closed in the 10 mile EPZ.

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14. Mr. Herbek questioned about parents who work. So many emergency numbers have to be called.
15. Mr. Gag 11otti recalled an instance when a siren went off and the Police Department was not informed of it.
16. Mr. Herbek asked if there was any response from Mr. Siegel (school superintendent)?

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17. The Chief replied, "No." He added that it is hard to pass meessages or get to the right person in the County; get three or four other persons first; it is frustrating dealing with the County. Mr. Herbek agreed; he had jus t had a similar experience with the County assessment office.
18. Fr. Herbek said that his wife is emergency number to about 10 kids in their neighborhood. He questioned what he should do if he was down county that day and decided to stay out of the 10 mile EPZ. Would his wife be liable for all those children? It sure is crazy, he noted.
19. Kathy Toscani observed no blackboard.
20. The Chief said there is a " hot line" separate from their regular police telephone.

It is for all Police Departments and one in Connecticut for major crimes.

21. A message came in over the radio: The stren will be activated for the Drill.

(9:46). Sirens sounded.

22. The Mayor said that it is only a test, but questioned its credibility.
23. 9:47; report of a malfunctioning siren.
24. Ten phone calls came in regarding the siren sounding; told "It was only a test."
25. Fany commented it didn't seem the strens went off for the full three minutes.
26. 9:53--ca11 from Hawthorne PD headquarters to see if they could be heard over radio transmission; Sargeant told them on the phone that they came in garbled; he couldn't understand transmission on radio from Hawthorne.
27. The Chief and the 1Myor have a special number to interrupt any and all television channels to teki of nuclear emergency. They don't need a special community i station for it. (Don't feel this was told to me as public info.)
28. Katherine Felt, member of Parents Concerned About Indian Point, now observing.
29. Siren near High School did not work.
30. Question as to whether Drill was over. Officer told the other one that it wasn't/
31. Someone joked about whether the other person was taking potassium indide pills?

And added whether or not the other person had "seen" any radiation yet.

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32. 10:58 Hotline - Voice (10:131) of County Executive O'Rourke declaring State of Emergency county wide.
33. Question arose if they had map with all coordinates? BlockoutC1 toc (;but they're not in Crotoni (Raspbery Hill) Croton is 6B,C,D.

34 Police Department told to shut down Nathbound expressway; that's all we are l responsible for.

35. Chief Lambruschi hung blue map of ERPA's at 11:03.

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36. County heard loud and clear.
37. 11:15 -- radio transmission--Route 9 North and South closed; only one lane open in alternating patteen.
38. Question of manning barricades; that's up to Buchanan; out of our durisdiction.

They will check traffice con 44tions from croton to Wiecher Avenue. Tht's all.

39. Jokes about having thyroid pills. Police on road have them.

The Chief had a copy of the evacuation plan now; joking ahnut size; not even pages are numbered. Joking about ooit of producing this document.

40. Phone call regarding C8 which is not in our jurisdiction. That's Ossining's; they must have a different color map.
41. Noon -- call; Sargeant answered rer.nrding Pontrose Exit; we don't go that far.

Are you looking at Blue Map? That's state police. Do you want us to go out of our jurisdiction? I have to clear it with my Chief.

42. The Chief said Croton PD would cover Croton Point exit. We don't have man power for mnre. We'll do traffic spot check; but not barricade. Call State Police.

We have only two men on. This is Croton, not the County.

43. The Chief said they keep talking abo'st Red Map. Do We have one? No, only blue one and it's noc updated.

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44. Calls coming in every now and then to make sure its working..
45. 12:05 -- HNtline(#29) Drill, drill; at 11:50, Cuman takes over State of Emergency. Evacuate ERPA's 1,2,3,4,7,8,9, Shelter 10,11.14.

, 46. 12:15 -- Hotline -- Drill, drill - Emergency at reactor #3.

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47. Patroikan She))er on duty now noted the " radiation cloud", is mnving NE. We're clear so far unless wind changes.
48. Phone call regarding Rt. 9 Northbound.
49. 12:20 - at Croton Point; just simulate stopping traffic. You do this if cloud comes our way. Right now we're safe.

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l 1:18 - call for the Chief. Rt. 9A traffic situation going up the hill earlier p $ t '

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51. Call answered by Lt. Doran. Ambiuance and patroltar to go to VA Hospital.
52. Someone came in and noted that all is quiet. No porblems yet. If it keeps up like this till 4 pm, we'll be OK.
53. Call came in; traffic backed up for miles on 9A. We haven't evacuated anybody.

Man needed on scene to " evacuate" 9A traffic. y}[ 'j'

54. Lt. Doran noted "Everybody in Croton called about those Sirens."

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557 Policeman's account of talk at demnnstration on effects of radiation at 5 miles (by State & when?) said it " scared the hell out of everybody."

56. During the period from 1:15 to 4:15, very little happened which related to the drill. Things were very quiet.

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