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Applicant Motion to Strike Part of State of Utah Response to Applicant Motion for Summary Disposition of Contention Utah K.* for Listed Reasons,Board Should Strike Portion of State Response.With Certificate of Svc
ML20210H914
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Issue date: 07/30/1999
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AFFILIATION NOT ASSIGNED, SHAW, PITTMAN, POTTS & TROWBRIDGE
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DISPOSITION OF CONTENTION UTAll K Applicant Private Fuel Storage L.L.C. (" Applicant" or "PFS") files this motion to strike part of the State of Utah's (" State" or " Utah") response to PFS's motion for sum-mary disposition of Contention Utah K (" Utah K").' Specifically, PFS seeks to strike Section I.D of the State's response which asser i that, during transportation of rocket motors to and from the Tekoi Rocket Engine Test Facility ("Tekoi"), "[t]he Applicant has failed to analyze another source of risk from [an explosion of a rocket motor during tran-sit], the risk caused by objects that would be sent flying by the explosion of the rocket

" Utah Resp. at 12. PFS files this motion because this allegation is based on a decla-ration from Dr. Marvin ResnikofTwhom PFS was effectively denied the ability to fully i Applicant's Motion for Partial Summary Disposition of Utah Contention K and Confederated Tribes Contention B, dated June 7,1999 [ hereinafter PFS Mot.]; State of Utah's Opposition to Applicant's Motion for Panial Summary Disposition of Utah Contention K and Confederated Tribes Contention B, dated July 22,1999 [ hereinafter Utah Resp.]; Statement of Material Facts in Dispute Regarding Utah Contention K and Confederated Tribes Contention B [ hereinafter St. Mat. Facts).

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f and completely depose because, Hrst, the State identified another individual, William Wallner of the Utah Department of Environmental Quality, as its knowledgeable person 2

on the facility ; second, the State did not identify Dr. Resnikoff as either a person knowl-edgeable of, or as a testifying witness on, the activities at Tekoi;' and third, Dr. Resnikoff 1

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Tekoi.

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STATEMENT OF THE ISSUES On June 7,1999, the Applicant filed a motion for partial summary disposition of Contention Utah K that sought, among other things, the dismissal of that part of Utah K conceming the alleged hazard to the PFSF from the Tekoi Rocket Engine Test Facility, including the hazard allegedly posed by the transportation of rocket motors to Tekoi via Skull Valley Road. PFS Mot, at 4-7. In its motion, PFS sought to address the issues identified by the State during the_ discovery process, including those raised by William Wallner in his deposition concerning Tekoi. Mr. Wallner was identified by the State i

8 PFS deposed Mr. Wallner on the activities at the Tekoi Rocket Engine Test Facility on May 11,1999 (ex-cerpts attached as Exhibit 1).

8 The State did identify Dr. Resnikoff as a witness on Utah K (which as the Board knows involves numer-ous issues) without specifying, as it had done for its other witnesses for Utah K, the specific area of Dr.

ResnikofTs testimony Compare Answer to GeneralInterrogatory No. 5, State of Utah's Amended Re-

sponse to Applicant's First Set of Formal Discovery Requests, dated April 29,1999, at 5-6, with State of Utah's Supplemental Response to Applicant's First Set of Fonnal Discovery Requests, dated May 20, 1999. Ilowever, during the questioning at his deposition Dr. Resnikoff specifically and expressly limited his role in Utah K to issues that did not include Tekoi.

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during infonnal discovery as its knowledgeable person on the operations and activities at Tekoi, and verified the State's formal discovery responses concerning Tekoi.'

In its response to PFS's summary disposition motion, the State asserted that PFS had failed to analyze a source of risk from rocket motor transportation and based that'as-sertion on a declaration of Dr. Marvin Resnikoff wholly devoid of support, citation or specificity. Utah Resp. at 12; se St. Mat. Facts at j 1-2.5 Dr. Resnikoff, however, had stated in response td PFS questioning in a deposition on May 19,1999 that he would be testifying concerning the issues under Utah K only regarding alleged hazards to the Pri-vate Fuel Storage Facility ("PSFF") from military and civilian aviation in the region and from asserted radioactive releases from Dugway Proving Ground. ResnikofrDep. at i10-13,121,136.6 After questioning on these two issues, Dr. Resnikoff was asked if he in-tended to assess "any other accident scenarios related to other facilities..." to which he answered "No." g at 136. Dr. Resnikoff's statements in the deposition effectively de-i nied PFS the opportunity to examine him regarding his knowledge of and potential testi-mony regarding alleged hazards to the PFSF from Tekoi. Accordingly, PFS files this motion to strike the portion of the State's response concerning Tekoi, which solel relies f

on Dr. Resnikoff's declaration for support.

  • Sg State of Utah's Amended Response to Applicant's first Set of Formal Disec Tequests, Attach-ment 1, and State of Utah's Response to Applicant's Second and Third Set of Disc..., Requests With Respect To Group 1 Contentions, Exhibit 1, dated June 4,1999.

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  • Deposition of Marvin Resnikoff, May 19,1999 (excerpts attached as Exhibit 2).

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ARGUMENT In its motion for summary disposition of the part of Utah K concerning alleged hazards from Tekoi, PFS argued and provided evidentiary support that the explosions of rocket motors in transit to Tekoi would pose no significant hazard to the PFSF because such an explosion would not crerae an overpressure of 1.0 psi at the PFSF. PFS Mot. at 5-6 & n. I 1. As PFS stated in its motion, overpressure causes greater damage at compa-rable distances than heat or blast fragments, and thus controls the safe ofTset distance. Id.

at n.1 I (citing Reg. Guide 1.91 at 1). PFS determined the safe offset distance using stan-dard industry relationships for determining such distances which Mr. Wallner confirmed was standard industry practice. Wallner Dep. at 37.

In its response, the State asserted that "[t]he Applicant has failed to analyze an-other source of rbk from such an accident, the risk caused by objects that would be sent flying by the explosion of the rocket...." Utah Resp. at 12. The sole support cited by the State for this proposition was paragraph 19 of the declaration of Dr. Resnikoff, in which he stated in full:

Regarding the Tekoi rocket facility, the Applicant claims that neither an explosion on the pad, nor an overpressure caused by an explosion along Skull Valley Road could compromise the integrity of a storage cask, whkh is de-signed to withstand much greater overpressures. The Ap-plicant has not addressed the issue of flying objects due to l

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an explosion during transport of rocket motors, the Trident rocket engine contains 40,000 lbs. of explosives.7 In his deposition on May 19, however, Dr. Resnikoff stated that the only two is-sues on which he would testify with respect to Utah K were "the accident probability (from aircran in the region]... as it relates to the PFS transfer facility and storage facil-ity" and " radioactive releases from Dugway as to how those releases might confound the radiation monitors at the PFS facility." Resnikoff Dep. at 110. "Those are my two roles as concerns this contention." I_d. (emphasis added). Later in the deposition, after ques-tioning about the two topics, the following exchange occurred:

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Are there any other accident scenarios related to other facilities un-der [ Utah] K for which you intend to do a probability calculation of potential impact on the Private Fuel Storage facility or [ inter-modal transfer point] ITP?

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Regarding any of these other facilities located around PFS?

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Yes, the facilities [that are the] te subject of K.

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Id. at 136; see also id. at 111-13. After a few more questions, having explored all the ar-eas on which Dr. Resnikoff stated he would testify, PFS concluded the deposition. Id. at 136-140.

7 Dr. Resnikoff made no citation or reference to any underlying factual basis nor did he acknowledge or address the point made in Applicant's Motion and the supporting declaration of Bruce Brunsdon that over-pressure, not blast fragments, governs the safe offset distance from explosions. See PFS Mot. at 5, n. I 1; e

Brunsdon Dec. at 110.

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n Dr. Resnikoff's statements in the deposition effectively denied PFS the opportu-l nity to depose him regarding his knowledge of and potential testimony regarding alleged 1

hazards to the PFSF from Tekoi, preventing PFS from addressing his concerns in its mo-tion for summary disposition. During!!s deposition of William Wallner, whom the State identified as its knowledgeable person on Tekoi, PFS extensively questioned Mr. Wallner concerning the hazards and likelihood of an explosion during transportation of rocket motors to and from Tekoi. Wallner Dep. at 30-32. The value of the deposition process was plainly evidenced by PFS's ability to establish that Mr. Wallner did not know the likelihood of an explosion nor of any instance where an explosion during transportation had ever occurred," as well as his acknowledgement of standard industry calculations for determining safe otT-set distances, li at 37. Clearly, if Dr. Resnikofrs involvemem with Tekoi had been identified by the State or disclosed during his deposition - which took place eight days after Mr. Wallner's deposition - PFS would have had the opportu-nity to similarly inquire into his knowledge and understanding conceming the Tekoi fa-cility and the use of standard industry calculations for safe offset distances. Because this opportunity was denied, the Board should not allow the State to make an assertion based

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Do you have an idea, based on your professional knowledge and experience, of the like-lihood that a motor being transported would explode?

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I don't.

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Do you know of any instances where that has happened be' ore?

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I do not.

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on an unsupported claim by an individual shielded from the discovery process, contrary to the purpose of the discovery provisions of 10 C.F.R. Part 2, and provide the State an unfair advantage.

ARer Dr. Resnikoff's denial that he would be testifying on any issues other than risks from aviation in the region and asserted radioactive emissions from Dugway, PFS

. could not have elicited any additional information. Any attempt by PFS to continue questioning Dr. Resnikoff on all of the other issues subsumed under Utah K would have been manifestly wasteful and even inappropriate.' The Board has stated that a party's failure to timely disclose information that was the subject of an interrogatory would be grounds for seeking to bar the admission of the information at the hearing. Order (Ruling on Applicant's 4/22/99 Motion to Compel) (May 11,1999) at 2 n.l. Dr. Resnikoff's re-sponses to the questions in the deposition constituted a failure to provide a timely re-sponse to a discovery request, or the failure to appear for cross-examination at a hearing, l

in that they prevented PFS from obtaining relevant information in the State's (Dr. Res-j nikoff's) possession before the Board would potentially make a decision concerning a substantive issue in the case (the alleged hazard to the PFSF from Tekoi).

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See also Louisiana Power and Light Company (Waterford Steam Electric Station, linit 3),17 NRC 1076, 1088 n.13 (1983)(failure to appear for cross-examination at a hearing is grounds for barring the admission of a witness's testimony); Carolina Power & Light Company (Shearon liarris Nuclean Power Plant),

ALAB-856,24 NRC 802,810 (1986)(failure to respond to discovery request is grounds for dismissing a contention).

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Mat. Facts at 111-2, which relied on Dr. Resnikofrs unsupported and unsubstantiated declaration for its only support.

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CONCLUSION For the forgoing reasons, the Board should strike the portion of the State's re-sponse to PFS's motion for partial summary disposition of Utah K related to alleged risks to the PFSF from the Tekoi Rocket Engine Test Facility.

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ASLBP No. 97-732-02-ISFSI CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that copies of the Applicant's Motion To Strike Part Of The State Of Utah's Response To The Applicant's Motion For Summary Disposition Of Contention Utah K were served on the persons listed below (unless otherwise noted) by e-mail (ex-cept for the exhibits thereto which have been served by facsimile to the Secretary, the Board, the State and the NRC Staf0 to the with conforming copies by U.S. mail, first class, postage prepaid, this 30th day of July 1999.

G. Paul Bollwerk 111, Esq., Chairman Dr. Jerry R. Kline Administrative Judge Administrative Judge Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Washington, D.C. 20555-0001 Washington, D.C. 20555-0001 e-mail: GPB@nrc. gov e-mail: JRK2@nrc. gov and kjerry@erols.com Dr. Peter S. Lam

  • Susan F. Shankman Administrative Judge Deputy Director, Licensing & Inspection Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel Directorate, Spent Fuel Project Office U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Office of Nuclear Material Safety &

Washington, D.C. 20555-00m Safeguards e-mail: PSL@nrc. gov U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Washington, D.C. 20555

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  • Adjudicatory File U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel l

Washington, D.C. 20555-0001 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Attention: Rulemakings and Adjudications Washington, D.C. 20555-0001 Staff e-mail: hearingdocket@nre. gov (Original and two copies)

Catherine L. Marco, Esq.

Denise Chancellor, Esq.

Sherwin E. Turk, Esq.

Assistant Attomey General OfEce of the General Counsel Utah Attorney General's Office Mail Stop O-15 B18 160 East 300 South,5th Floor U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission P.O. Box 140873 Washington, D.C. 20555 Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-0873 e-mail: pfscase@nrc. gov e-mail: dchancel@ state.UT.US John Paul Kennedy, Sr., Esq.

Joro Walker, Esq.

Confederated Tribes of the Goshute Land and Water Fund of the Rockies Reservation and David Pete 2056 East 3300 South, Suite 1 1385 Yale Avenue Salt Lake City, UT 84109 Salt Lake City, Utah 84105 e-mail: joro61@inconnect.com e-mail: john @kennedys.org Diane Curran, Esq.

Danny Quintana, Esq.

Harmon, Curran, Spielberg &

Skull Valley Band of Goshute Indians Eisenberg, L.L.P.

Danny Quintana & Associates, P.C.

1726 M Street, N.W., Suite 600 68 South Main Street, Suite 600 Washington, D.C. 20036 Salt Lake City, Utah 84101 e-mail: deurran@harmoncurran.com e-mail: quintana @xmission.com

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And do you see that that would pose a 2

hazard to the PFS facility?

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That should not.

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Is there anything else, any other 5

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Not that I can think of.

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potential from transporting the motors to and from 9

the facility, because it would come on the highway 10 there.

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And how would that pose a hazard?

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It's just transporting of an explosite 13 along a highway there.

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14 they're taking during transporting, if something 15 happened there, there would be the potential for a 16 detonation in that instance also.

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But the potential for--would you say that 18 that's the potential for an explosion of a motor in 19 transit?

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Yes.

21 Q.

How often do they transport motors to 22 Tekoi?

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I think at present, I think this year they 24 are planning on doing six test firings out there.

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And what kind of motors are those, or how

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That I'm not sure.

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motors they're going to be testing out there.

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have a number of programs going on.

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Do you have an idea, based on your 6

professional knowledge and experience, of the 7

likelihood that a motor being transported would 8

explode?

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I don't.

10 Q.

Do you know of any instances where that has 11 happened before?

12 A.

I do not.

13 Q.

Do you know any--are you familiar with any 14 of the safety precautions that are taken to prevent 15 motors from exploding in transit?

16 A.

All I know is that there is DOT testing, 17 DOD testing, that needs to take place before motors 18 can be transported.

19 Q.

And what does that testing entail?

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It's just mainly testing to see how stable 21 the material is in transit.

22 Q.

And stable with respect to what?

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Shocks, static electricity, things of that 24 nature.

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Bacchus Works.

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And what route would they take to Tekoi, do 5

you know?

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My guess is Highway ill, and then from 7

there probably jogging by Kennecott and out to :-30.

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Is there any other route that you know of 10 that they would take?

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They could also ship things by rail.

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And how would they get to Tekoi ultimately 13 by rail?

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They would have to offload somewhere along 15 I-80 and then transport by truck to Tekoi.

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Is it possible that rocket motors could be 17 transported through Johnson Pass from Bacchus Works 18 to Tekoi?

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I would say it's possible.

20 Q.

Other than the transportation of rocket 21 motors, do you see any other activities that take 22 place at the Tekoi site as posing a significant 23 hazard to the PFS facility?

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Not other than already was mentioned.

25 Q.

Other than the potential for explosions and

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Just my personal knowledge of the 3

operation.

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So you did not do any separate calculations 5

or assessments or research?

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No, I did not.

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You mentioned that calculations or the 8

relationship between quantity of explosives and safe 9

offset distance.

10 A.

Uh huh (affirmative).

11 Q.

Would you consider that, based on your 12 experience and knowledge, to be a standard 13 calculation that's used in the industry?

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Yes.

15 Q.

That's a standard relationship that the 16 industry practice would rely upon?

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Yes.

It's either DOD--DOD has 18 requirements, ATF has requirements.

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ATF being--

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Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

And then 21 the explosive manufacturing industry has their own.

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And do you think--are they generally the 23 same or are they different?

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I'd say they're similar.

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They would produce similar offset, safe

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12 Wednesday, May 19, 1999 13 14-Deposition of MARVIN RESNIKOFF, was called 15 for examination by counsel, commenced pursuant to 16 notice, at 10 10 a.m.,

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That was my question.

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discussed the' Apache helicopters.

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flights of airplanes from Hill Air Force Base and 8

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Private Fuel Storage facility and the ITP.

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My role is just to look at the accident 15 probability, you know, as it relates to the PFS 16 transfer facility and storage facility, look at 17 those probabilities.

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But you won't be testifying to the nature 6

of the events as such in terms of how many sorties 7

'are flown or what type of activities take place on 8

Hill Air Force Base?

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The number of accidents that have been 10 flown?

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The number of sorties that have been flown 12 or the accidents that have taken place, or the 13 activities that actually take place on Hill Air 14 Force Base or UTTR?

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Well, I would look into, yes, the 16 consequences of an accident at the PFS facility.

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You'll look into the consequences of 18 accidents, but you are not going to be testifying to 19 the activities underlying the accident or the 20 potential,_ the nature of the activities underlying 21-the accidents?

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Q Based on your discussion with General 9

Matthews, did you identify any other potential 10 accidents for which you intend to calculate the 11 probability of impact on the Private Fuel Storage 12 facility or the ITP?

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No, I don't think so, no.

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Do you have any other -- are there any 15 notes or other records of your one-hour conversation 16 with General Matthews?

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Notes?

I might have scribbles.

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I would request a copy of them.

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Okay.

You are probably going to want to 20 depose me to read these scribbles to you.

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Fair enough.

Have you identified any 2

other potential accidents for which you intend to 3

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Fuel Storage facility or the ITP?

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Well, as I said, I have this one other 6

role, which is to look.into the radiological part to 7

see'if any releases from Dugway, radiological 8

releases.could confound the systems at PFS.

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There are potential releases from 10 facilities around the area, such as biological and 11 chemical?

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I am not working on that.

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You are not looking at those potential 14 releases?

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No.

16 Q

So you are also looking at potential 17 radiologic releases from Dugway Proving Ground?

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Yes.

19 Q

Do you know of -- what activities at 20 Dugway Proving Ground involve radiological 21 materials, do you know?

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Yes.

As we speak I am writing a note to 4

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So if I understand your testimony 6

correctly, there is no other activities from Dugway 7

for which you are calculating potential accidents 8

impacting the Private Fuel Storage facility; is that 9

correct?

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Radiological, yes.

11 Q

Other than radiological.

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And then these air accidents.

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Thac's what we talked about at the UTTR.

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Yes.

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You are going to do something on Michael 18 Air Field?

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Yes, we are going to look into that 20 because that's where some of these sorties would --

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Q You are not doing anything with respect to 2

smoke or potential of adverse impacts of smoke as 3

they may relate to Utah K?

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No.

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something about potential of hot air being sucked up 7.

into the casks by a flame.

Are you doing anything 8

with respect to that?

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I am not certain if I am or not, but I 10 didn't mention hot flame.

I mentioned fuel, a fuel 11 oil fire.

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So you were focusing on fuel oil?

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Sucked into the intake.

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Okay.

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I don't believe I am working on that.

16 Q

Okay W1.at documents have you generated 17 with respect.to Contention K, if any?

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With regard to what?

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What documents have you generated yourself 20 with respect to Utah Contention K, if any?

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None so far.

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Counsel thinks I may have 3

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I don't think I wrote a memo.

4 MS. CURRAN:

It would have been way back

' he beginning.

I don't remember whether he did 5

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6 or not, just was raising the possibility.

7 MR. GAUKLER:

I have no further questions.

8 EXAMINATION 9

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10 Q

You have mentioned a few times that you 11 intend to do some calculations.

When do you intend 12 to do that?

13 A

When do I have to do it?

What is our 14 deadline?

It is the staff that's taking all the 15 time.

16 Q

Is there some date that you have discussed i

17 with the State of Utah?

18 A

I haven't discussed a date, no.

Excuse me 19 for a bit of levity.

We haven't discussed a date.

20 Q

Is there a general time frame by which you 21

'are hoping to have that concluded?

Are you thinking l

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A Yeah, sometime before that, sure, sometime 3

before that.

I don't have the timing, the schedule 4

in my head, so I can't answer this question very 5

well.

6 Definitely you need the information before 7

the draft DIS comes out, but I don't know the 8

' relative timing of all of this..

9 Q

Can I ask counsel if there is some time by 10 which you are toping to have these analyses 11 completed?

12 MS. CURRAN:

We don't have a set date for 13 it.

As a practical matter, we are anticipa~ ting a i

14 motion for summary disposition, and we know we are

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15 going to have'to do more' analyses in response to 16 that, so I would say that's one practical time 17 frame.

I don't know if that will be everything, but 18 if something more will be done in that time frame --

1 19 we are trying to'do everything as quickly as 20 possible.

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3 MS. CURRAN:

Are you sure you haven't 4

given him that already?

I kind of remember that.

5 MR. GAUKLER:

I thought I asked for that, 6

out I don't think we got it is my recollection.

I 7

know I asked for it previously.

I don't think I got 8

it.

I will double-check.

If you don't hear from 9

me, that means we don't have it.

10 MS. CURRAN:

Okay.

11 BY MR. GAUKLER:

12 Q

Are there any other accident scenarios 13 related to other facilities under K for which you 14 intend to do a probability calculation of potential 15 impact on the Private Fuel Storage facility or ITP?

16 A

Regarding any of these other facilities 17 located around PFS?

18 Q

Yes, the facilities subject of K.

19 A

No.

20 Q

Are you doing anything in connection with 21 fires, wild fires that may relate to Utah K?

22 A

No.

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PFS, without delay.

And I have no other questions.

3 MS. CURRAN:

I don't have any follow-up.

4 MR. BLAKE:

I think then that completes 5

the subject areas that Dr. Resnikoff has been 6

nominated for as a State expert.

7 MR. GAUKLER:

With respect to group 1 8

contentions.

9 MR. BLAKE:

Yes.

Did you want an 10 opportunity to review the deposition before we 11 finalize it?

I think your counsel indicated at the 12 beginning of the deposition that the answer would be 13 affirmative.

That's a hint.

14 THE WITNESS:

Usually I do just to check 15 minor errors, spelling, and things like that.

16 Usually I do that.

17 MR. BLAKE:

We will plan on doing that j

18 then.

Anything else anybody wants to add to the 19 record?

Thank you for your courtesy.

We appreciate 20 it.

And that concludes the deposition.

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the deposition 22 was concluded.)

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