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{{#Wiki_filter:rZ~kS H =-)q z1{PRIVATE }Official Transcript of Proceedings NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION Title: Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards 549th Meeting Docket Number: (n/a)DOCKETED: USNRC Location: Rockville, Maryland August 12, 2008 (11:00am)OFFICE OF SECRETARY RULEMAKINGS AND ADJUDICATIONS STAFF Date: Thursday, February 7th, 2008 Work Order No.: NRC-2007 Pages 1-346 NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC.Court Reporters and Transcribers U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY coMMISSON 1323 Rhode Island Avenue, N.Wint Maltero _ y Washington, D.C. 20005 Do0et No. SO-?, O7fficialExhibit No. fZ-1-Uq (202) 234-4433 OFFERED b'y- micantILicensee)
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Official Transcript of Proceedings NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION Title:         Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards 549th Meeting Docket Number:       (n/a)
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1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 549TH MEETING ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON REACTOR SAFEGUARD (ACRS)THURSDAY.FEBRUARY 7, 2008 ROCKVILLE, MARYLAND The Advisory Committee met at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Two White Flint North, Room T2B3, 11545 Rockville Pike, Rockville, Maryland, at 8:30 a.m., Dr. William J..Shack, Chairman, presiding.
: USNRC August 12, 2008 (11:00am)
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: WILLIAM J. SHACK, Chairman MARIO V. BONACA, Vice Chairman GEORGE E. APOSTOLAKIS, Member DENNIS C. BLEY, Member DANA A. POWERS, Member JOHN W. STETKAR, Member MICHAEL CORRADINI, Member JOHN D. SIEBER, Member NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 2 COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT (Continued):
Location:            Rockville, Maryland                              OFFICE OF SECRETARY RULEMAKINGS AND ADJUDICATIONS STAFF Date:               Thursday, February 7th, 2008 Work Order No.:     NRC-2007                                         Pages 1-346 NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC.
OTTO L. MAYNARD, Member SAID ABDEL-KHALIK, Member J. SAM ARMIJO, Member SANJOY BANERJEE, Member ALSO PRESENT: SAM DURAISWAMY MAITRI BANERJEE P.T. KUO KENNETH CHANG JONATHAN ROWLEY JOHN DREYFUSS TED SULLIVAN LARRY LUKENS GARY STEVENS PAUL JOHNSON MICHAEL MODES SARAH HOFFMAN JORAM HOPENFELD JOHN FAIR CHANG LI MAKUTESWARA SRINIVASAN-STEVE JONES JOHN JOLICOEUR.TREVOR COOK NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 3 ALSO PRESENT (Continued):
Court Reporters and Transcribers       U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY coMMISSON 1323 Rhode Island Avenue, N.Wint Maltero _         y Washington, D.C. 20005     Do0et No. SO-?,           O7fficialExhibit No. fZ-1-Uq (202) 234-4433 OFFERED b'y- micantILicensee) Intervenor_______
SUD BASU FAROUK ELTAWILA STU RUBIN MARK HENRY SALLEY NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 96 much done. The question I have: is there any question for the staff here? Any questions for Mr.Hopenfeld from members?MEMBER ARMIJO: I'd like to ask with respect to the last presenter's comments about new data. Is the staff familiar with -- no, I'm asking the staff if they're aware of the new data that you referred to MR. FAIR: Hi. I'm John Fair with Division of Engineering who did a lot of the reviews on environmental fatigue.Yes, we are. The new data is the latest Argonne data that was being applied in new design certifications.
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Basically the criteria they're using ins license renewal was criteria that was developed quite, a while back, and we made a decision at that time that we would, as criteria, we would maintain that criteria because there were a lot of applications in process. So we didn't want to keep changing the rules as these people were putting in new applications.
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And a lot of the criteria had changed and was massaged over the years.Actually if you go back and look at the latest, criteria we're applying to new reactors., it's not as conservative as the old criteria because we NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com 97 changed the basis for deriving the curves. So if you go and look at the Fen factors themselves using the new criteria, they'll generally be lower.MEMBER ARMIJO: Okay. Thank you.VICE CHAIRMAN BONACA: Any other questions?
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If not, Mr. Chairman, I'll turn the meeting.back to you.CHAIRMAN SHACK: Okay. Well, it's five minutes late. I'd like to take a break now. I thank the presenters, staff and the industry, for a good presentation, I think, very informative and Mr.Hopenfeld for his comments.We're slated for 15 minutes. So we'll be back at ten of.(Whereupon, the foregoing matter went off the record at 10:35 a.m. and went back on the record at 10:55 a.m.)CHAIRMAN SHACK: The next topic is a draft final Revision 1 to Regulatory Guide 1.45, "Guidance on Monitoring and Responding to Reactor Coolant System Leakage, and, Sam, I think you're going to take us through that.NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com}}
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1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 549TH MEETING ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON REACTOR SAFEGUARD (ACRS)
THURSDAY
                              .FEBRUARY         7,     2008 ROCKVILLE,           MARYLAND The Advisory         Committee         met at the Nuclear Regulatory           Commission,         Two     White     Flint North,         Room T2B3,           11545   Rockville       Pike,       Rockville,     Maryland,           at 8:30 a.m.,           Dr. William J..Shack,               Chairman, presiding.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
WILLIAM J. SHACK,       Chairman MARIO V. BONACA,       Vice Chairman GEORGE E. APOSTOLAKIS,           Member DENNIS C. BLEY,     Member DANA A. POWERS,     Member JOHN W. STETKAR,         Member MICHAEL CORRADINI,         Member JOHN D. SIEBER,     Member NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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2 COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT                   (Continued):
OTTO L. MAYNARD,     Member SAID ABDEL-KHALIK,         Member J. SAM ARMIJO,     Member SANJOY BANERJEE,       Member ALSO PRESENT:
SAM DURAISWAMY MAITRI BANERJEE P.T. KUO KENNETH CHANG JONATHAN ROWLEY JOHN DREYFUSS TED SULLIVAN LARRY LUKENS GARY STEVENS PAUL JOHNSON MICHAEL MODES SARAH HOFFMAN JORAM HOPENFELD JOHN FAIR CHANG LI MAKUTESWARA SRINIVASAN
              -STEVE JONES JOHN JOLICOEUR
            .TREVOR COOK NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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3 ALSO PRESENT         (Continued):
SUD BASU FAROUK ELTAWILA STU RUBIN MARK HENRY SALLEY NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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96 much       done.         The     question           I     have:           is   there         any question         for the         staff     here?           Any     questions         for Mr.
Hopenfeld from members?
MEMBER       ARMIJO:             I'd       like     to   ask       with respect         to     the     last     presenter's               comments       about         new data.         Is   the   staff       familiar         with       --   no,     I'm asking the       staff     if   they're         aware       of     the new data             that you referred to MR.     FAIR:           Hi.           I'm     John     Fair         with Division of Engineering                     who did a lot of the reviews on environmental fatigue.
Yes,     we are.           The new data is               the latest Argonne         data     that     was     being         applied         in   new     design certifications.                 Basically the criteria                       they're using ins       license     renewal       was     criteria           that     was   developed quite, a while             back,       and we         made       a decision         at     that time         that   we   would,       as     criteria,           we   would       maintain that criteria because there were a lot of applications in     process.         So we didn't want                     to keep       changing           the rules           as     these         people           were         putting         in         new applications.               And a lot of               the criteria had changed and was massaged over the years.
Actually         if   you go back               and     look at           the latest, criteria             we're applying                 to new reactors.,                 it's not       as   conservative           as   the       old       criteria       because           we NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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97 changed the basis for deriving the curves.                                   So if         you go and look at               the Fen factors                   themselves   using         the new criteria,           they'll generally be lower.
MEMBER ARMIJO:               Okay.         Thank you.
VICE         CHAIRMAN             BONACA:             Any         other questions?
If     not,       Mr.       Chairman,         I'll   turn           the meeting.back to you.
CHAIRMAN         SHACK:           Okay.       Well,   it's       five minutes late.             I'd like to take a break now.                           I thank the       presenters,         staff       and     the       industry,     for     a     good presentation,             I     think,         very         informative       and         Mr.
Hopenfeld for his comments.
We're slated for 15 minutes.                         So we'll be back at ten of.
(Whereupon,         the     foregoing         matter went           off the     record at 10:35 a.m.               and went back on the record at 10:55 a.m.)
CHAIRMAN SHACK:                 The next topic is           a draft final         Revision     1   to Regulatory               Guide 1.45,       "Guidance on Monitoring and Responding to Reactor Coolant System Leakage,         and,   Sam,       I   think       you're       going   to     take         us through that.
NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.
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2008/02/07-Vermont Yankee July 2008 Evidentiary Hearing - Applicant Exhibit 52-31-VY, Excerpt of Transcript of ACRS Meeting 02/07/2008 (5 Pages)
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Official Transcript of Proceedings NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION Title: Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards 549th Meeting Docket Number: (n/a)

DOCKETED

USNRC August 12, 2008 (11:00am)

Location: Rockville, Maryland OFFICE OF SECRETARY RULEMAKINGS AND ADJUDICATIONS STAFF Date: Thursday, February 7th, 2008 Work Order No.: NRC-2007 Pages 1-346 NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC.

Court Reporters and Transcribers U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY coMMISSON 1323 Rhode Island Avenue, N.Wint Maltero _ y Washington, D.C. 20005 Do0et No. SO-?, O7fficialExhibit No. fZ-1-Uq (202) 234-4433 OFFERED b'y- micantILicensee) Intervenor_______

NR Other______

' orNuRew olIftd i i Witness/Panel ,JEC 2.

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1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 549TH MEETING ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON REACTOR SAFEGUARD (ACRS)

THURSDAY

.FEBRUARY 7, 2008 ROCKVILLE, MARYLAND The Advisory Committee met at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Two White Flint North, Room T2B3, 11545 Rockville Pike, Rockville, Maryland, at 8:30 a.m., Dr. William J..Shack, Chairman, presiding.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:

WILLIAM J. SHACK, Chairman MARIO V. BONACA, Vice Chairman GEORGE E. APOSTOLAKIS, Member DENNIS C. BLEY, Member DANA A. POWERS, Member JOHN W. STETKAR, Member MICHAEL CORRADINI, Member JOHN D. SIEBER, Member NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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2 COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT (Continued):

OTTO L. MAYNARD, Member SAID ABDEL-KHALIK, Member J. SAM ARMIJO, Member SANJOY BANERJEE, Member ALSO PRESENT:

SAM DURAISWAMY MAITRI BANERJEE P.T. KUO KENNETH CHANG JONATHAN ROWLEY JOHN DREYFUSS TED SULLIVAN LARRY LUKENS GARY STEVENS PAUL JOHNSON MICHAEL MODES SARAH HOFFMAN JORAM HOPENFELD JOHN FAIR CHANG LI MAKUTESWARA SRINIVASAN

-STEVE JONES JOHN JOLICOEUR

.TREVOR COOK NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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3 ALSO PRESENT (Continued):

SUD BASU FAROUK ELTAWILA STU RUBIN MARK HENRY SALLEY NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

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96 much done. The question I have: is there any question for the staff here? Any questions for Mr.

Hopenfeld from members?

MEMBER ARMIJO: I'd like to ask with respect to the last presenter's comments about new data. Is the staff familiar with -- no, I'm asking the staff if they're aware of the new data that you referred to MR. FAIR: Hi. I'm John Fair with Division of Engineering who did a lot of the reviews on environmental fatigue.

Yes, we are. The new data is the latest Argonne data that was being applied in new design certifications. Basically the criteria they're using ins license renewal was criteria that was developed quite, a while back, and we made a decision at that time that we would, as criteria, we would maintain that criteria because there were a lot of applications in process. So we didn't want to keep changing the rules as these people were putting in new applications. And a lot of the criteria had changed and was massaged over the years.

Actually if you go back and look at the latest, criteria we're applying to new reactors., it's not as conservative as the old criteria because we NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com

97 changed the basis for deriving the curves. So if you go and look at the Fen factors themselves using the new criteria, they'll generally be lower.

MEMBER ARMIJO: Okay. Thank you.

VICE CHAIRMAN BONACA: Any other questions?

If not, Mr. Chairman, I'll turn the meeting.back to you.

CHAIRMAN SHACK: Okay. Well, it's five minutes late. I'd like to take a break now. I thank the presenters, staff and the industry, for a good presentation, I think, very informative and Mr.

Hopenfeld for his comments.

We're slated for 15 minutes. So we'll be back at ten of.

(Whereupon, the foregoing matter went off the record at 10:35 a.m. and went back on the record at 10:55 a.m.)

CHAIRMAN SHACK: The next topic is a draft final Revision 1 to Regulatory Guide 1.45, "Guidance on Monitoring and Responding to Reactor Coolant System Leakage, and, Sam, I think you're going to take us through that.

NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVE., N.W.

(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 www.nealrgross.com