ML20147E533
| ML20147E533 | |
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| Site: | 05000000 |
| Issue date: | 04/24/1985 |
| From: | NRC COMMISSION (OCM) |
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3 OFFICE OF INVESTIGATION 4
5 GPUN' Headquarters 100 Interpace Parkway i
6 Parsippany, New Jersey 7
The Investigative Interview convened at 3:10 p.m.,
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Richard A. Matakas, presiding.
9 10 PRESENT:
11 THOMAS GARY BROUGHTON, Interviewee Systems Engineering Director, GPUN 12
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Nuclear Regulatory Commission 14 King of Prussia, Pennsylvania l
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2 MR. MATAKAS:
The date is April 24, 1985 and the 3
time is 15:10.
Present for this int erview are myself, 4
Richard A. Matakas, investigator, U.S. NRC, Bob LaGrange, 5
section leader in the NRC EO branch of fice of NRR, and 6
Mr. Thomas Gary Broughton, director of systems engineering, 7
GPUN.
8 The purpose of this interview is to discuss facts and 9
circumstances leading to GPUN's submittals to the NRC, 10 involving the environmental qualification of electrical 11 equipment at TMI Unit 1.
12 Mr. Broughton, do you have any objection to having this 13 interview conducted under oath?
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14 THE WITNESS:
No.
1 15 Whereupon, 16 THOMAS GARY BROUGHTON 17 was called as a witness and, having been first duly sworn, t
18 was examined and testified as follows:
19 EXAMINATION 20 BY MR. MATAKAS:
21 O
Mr. Broughton, what is your business address?
22 A
100 Interpace Parkway, Pars;ppany, New Jers ey.
23 It's GPU Nuclear Corporation.
24 0
What is your telephone numbar, a number that we 25 can reach you at?
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1 A-201-299-2111.
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O Would'you give us a general overview of your 3
education and work history?
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I went to Dartmouth College, graduated in 1966.
5 I spent 10 years in the Navy in the nuclear submarine 6
program.
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7 In May of '76 I came to work for GPU Nuclear as a 8
licensing engineer and, since then, I have held various 9
positions in GPU.
10 I should have said, when I came to work in 76 it was 11 for the GPU Service Corporation, that was prior to CPU 12 Nuclear.
In addition to be a licensing engineer I was the 13 safety and licensing manager, the control and safety 14 analysis manager, and the syst ems analysis director, prior 15 to being the director of systems engineering.
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GPU Nuclear was formed January '817 Does that 17 sound about right?
Just after Mr. Clark got here, I 18 believe.
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I can't remember the year.
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That's all right.
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Mr. Wilson.
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R.F. Wilson?
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R.F. Wilson.
25 0
Are you f amiliar with the lett ers from GPU
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qualification program they submitted to NRR?
I would like 3
to show you the letters, the first is dated May 20, 1983, 4'
GPUN letter number is 5211-83.37.
It's to NRR and it's 5
signed by Mr. Hukill.
6 Second letter is dated February 10, 1984, GPUN letter 7
number is 5211-84-2038.
It is to NRR and it's signed by 8
Mr. Toole.
9 A
I have recently-seen the May 20, 1983 letter.
I 10 don't know that I have seen the February 10, '84 letter 11 prior to now.
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okay.
When you say you have recently seen the 13 May 20th letter, did you have a review of that letter 14 prior to it being issued?
15 A
I don't recall having looked at this before it 16 was issued.
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Did you have any interface with licensing, 18 regarding input into that l et t er?
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Not that I recall.
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If you would, look at rtTraph two or three, ~.
21 would just like to ref resh your nemory.
I believe it was 22 Mr. Hard.
that said you had input into paragraph -- why 23 don't we a couple of minutes break here ano let me
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exact paragraph.
You may not have realized 25 it at th e time.
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(Discussion of f the record. )
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2 BY MR. MATAKAS:
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In previous talking to Mr. Harding, who actually 4
- draf ted the document, he stated that you had input into 5
section 3 of the document.
I believe he meant paragraph 3.
6 Why don't you read that over and see if it makes sense.
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Y es.
I've read paragraph 3.
8 O
Do you recall having any interface with 9
Mr. Harding regarding the contents of paragraph 3?
10 A
I don't, although the subj ect of paragraph 3, 11 regular guide 197, and our interf ace with the B&W owners, 12 is a project that people within my department are working 13 on at the time.
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okay.
I have no question about that particular 15 paragraph.
My main question was, did you have an 16 opportunity to read and review that document before it 17 went out?
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Not that I recall.
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okay.
And you don't recall reviewing or reading 23
-he February 10, 1984 document at all?
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No, I don't.
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Did you have any interface or have you had any i
23 interface with the environmental qualification section, 24 either Mr. Cronenberger or Mr. chisholm or Mr. Maus, i
25 during the last several years?
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A Yes.
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What was it in relation to?
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Well, I have interf aced with those people on-a 4
variety of topics.
5 Q
I'm talking about the EQ program itself?
6 A
With respect to EQ, there were people within 7
systems engineering who were assisting in answering EQ 8
questions and thr' assistance was provided primarily to 9
people in the engineering and design organization.
10 Q
Is that here at Parsippany?
11 A
Yes.
12 O
What type of questions are we talking about?
13 A
Typically, the types of questions that systems 14 engineering people would be involved in were items lik e t
15 the regular guide 197 requirements for identifying 16 instruments that might be required by either operators to 17 execute procedures or that might be used in conjunction 18 with certain design basis events or accident monitoring.
19 0
Have you or any of your people that work for you 20 had occasion to revie.' EQ iiles?
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I have not.
I don't know if any of my people 22 have specifically looked at EQ files.
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Specifically what I'm talking about is for 24 equipment qualification in respect to 10 CFR 50.49, and DOR 4
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bull etin 79-21 E,
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any of your people or yourself have any resp 6nsibility in 2
that area?
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Certainly the leni responsibility is with 4
Mr. Cronenberger, but in areas where there might be 5
questions about what equipment might be required to be 6
used, or perhaps how it was used during certain design 1
7 basis events, people within systems engineering would be 8
involved in providing that information and consulting.
9 Q
What 10 A
However, with regard to once the piece of 11 equipment is defined then going through records to ensure 12 it makes the qualification requirements, that is not an 13 area in which we would have responsibility in, and I doubt 14 any Of the systems engineering people would be involved in 15 looking at files.
16 0
Have you ever been present at any meetings where, 17 also in attendance, were people from QA and people frem 18 Tech Functions, within the EQ chain of command, 19 Cronenberger or below?
20 A
I don't recall having been in any such meetings.
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Have you ever attended a meet ing where it was 22 discussed that GPUN was going to go out for outside 23 assistance in -- within the EQ program to assist the EQ 24 program?
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Recently, I recall being at a neering where we
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discussed how we were going to use outside help with I
2 regard to EO matters for the Oyster Creek plant.
However 3
I think at that time the decision had already been made to 4
use that help, and I think we already had people from an 5
outside organization involved.
I don't recall anything 6
for TMI-1, where that was discussed.
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Specifically, I'm talking about th e lat e '83 or 8
early 1984 time frame?
9 A
I don't recall any meetings like that in that 10 time period.
11 MR. MATAKAS:
Do you have any questions?
12 MR. LA GRANGE:
No.
13 MR. MATAKAS:
Mr. Broughton, do you have any 14 comments you would like to make?
15 THE WITNESS:
No.
16 BY MR. MATATKAS:
17 O
Did you appear here of your own free will?
18 A
Yes.
19 0
Have any threats been made or any promises made 20 to you?
21 A
No.
22 MR. MATAKAS:
The time is 15:21 and that 23 concludes the interview.
Thanks a lot, Mr. Broughton.
24 (Whereupon, at 3:20 p.m.,
the interview was 25 concluded.)
CERTIFICATE OF OFFICIAL REPORTER 2
This is to certify that the attached proceedings before the UNITED STATES NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION in-the matter of:
NAME OF PROCEEDING:
INVESTIGATIVE INTERVIEW OP:
THOMAS GARY BROUGHTON DOCKET NO.:
PLACE:
PARSIPANNY, NEif JERSEY i
DATE:
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 24, 1935 were held as herein appears, and that this is the original transcript thereof for the file of the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
(sigt (TYPEDb Joel Breitner Official Reporter Repo$te sAkfWiaNon'
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