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Commission Determination Releasing Portions of Transcript of Commission 810123 Meeting in Washington,Dc Re Info Flow on TMI Accident.Pp 130-207.Meeting Closed Per Exemptions 7 & 10
	ML20038A748
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Issue date:	10/29/1981
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{{#Wiki_filter:._ ~ / k. UNITED STATES j. J NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 0 U E WASHINGTON, D.C. 20555 9T 't, / october,A, 1981 CFFICE OF THE SECRETARY COMMISSION DETERMINATION REGARDING PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNDER THE GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE ACT OF: 3 anscript of Continuation of Briefing on Information Flow Concerning the TMI Accident January 23, 1981, Pages 130 - 207 Pursuant to 10 CFR 9.108 (c) and 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (5), (6), (7) (c), and 110), the Commission hes determined that the attached portions of the subject transcript should be released to the public. The remaining portions of the transcript are being withheld from public disclosure pursuant to 10 CFR 9.104 as noted below: Page/Line thru Page/Line Exemptions 131/4 131/7 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (6), (7) (c) 131/22 131/23 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (6),' (7) (c) 132/22 133/1 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (6), (7) (c) 133/8 133/12 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (6), (7) (c) 135/6 135/13 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (6), (7) (c) 149/4 150/17 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (10) 161/11 164/24 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (5) 165/8 165/16 10 CFR 9.104 (a) (10) 167/24 169/11 " 10 CFR 9.104 (h) (10) ~ / / (, Semuel J. Chilk Secretary of the Commission 8111160369 811029 PDR 10CFR PT9.7 PDR

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18 MR. STELLO: I don 't know -- 19 COMMISSIONER HENDRIE: You going to change that 20 one, too? 21 MR. STELLO: It is my understanding in the 22 discussions with Dr. Meyers that they are thinking of 23 removing completely that conclusion from th e report and are 24 now leaning in that direction. However, as you have already 25 pointed out, the letter is from Congressman Udall and they n ALDERSoN REPORTING COMPANY,INC, 400 VIRGINIA AVE., S.W., WASHINGTON, D.C. 20024 (202) 554-2345 l L
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(i((((( (I(( (((f( f(0(l k ( ('( ( ( ( (h( ((I(h( (h({ (h( ( .h4 ph / IADVANCEDCO jum 5 TRANSMITTAL TO: S Document Control Desk, 016 Phillips g-j 0012 s p~8hh, O The Public Document Ro %m U,s,m ok' pj DATE: October 29, 1981 O 4 m p Attached are the PDR copies of a Commission meetina 2= P' transcript /s/ and related meeting document /s/. are being forwarded for entry on the Daily AccessionThey and placement in the Public Document Room. b List No P other distribution is requested or required. Existing P DOS identification numbers are listed on the individual documents wherever possible, p g
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1 Determination Statement and Transcript of: Briefing on Information I' low Concerning the TMI Accident, Part 1 of 2 parts. Jan. 22. 81. (closed meeting) (1 copy) l 2. Determination Statement and Transcript of: Briefing on Information Flow Concerning the TMI Accident, -b Part 2 of 2 parts, Jan. 22. 81. (closed meeting) g (1 copy) A i 3. Determination Statement and Transcript of: Continuation of Briefing on Information Flow Concerning h f$2 the TMI Accident, Jan. 23. 81. (Closed meeting) g{ (1 copy) ja h own Office of the Secretary M l' b %= *
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