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| Issue date: | 04/05/1989 |
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SEABROOK CONTROL ROOM / FRED ANDERSON, JR.
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6 VOICE:
I would like to make a suggestion about 7
things that were happening, and there's been some good 8
points brought out.
9 I would suggest that we can, with Bob, prepare a l
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12 withholding back on site selection, geological studies and 13 so forth, and then present this to the seven towns.
14 I would suggest that we arrange a meeting with the 15-representatives from the seven towns; and then we get 16 together, discuss this budget and your schedules with you, 17 what's just been provided tonight.
And then we go from 18 there because Hampton is one of the largest contributors of 19 the funding.
20 Therefore, we're directly concerned.
We have to 21 do something with our solid waste.
We probably have about
'22 five years on our land fill.
It's critical that we keep 23 this thing going.
But I'm a believer in putting a hole, as 24 Henry says, for six months to a year; so let's -- you people 25 prepare a budget, schedule, and then we in the seven towns
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21 VOICE:
The three George's are not going to
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3 adhere?
4 VOICE:- No.
5 VOICE:
What I want to try to do is -- I want to 6
try to formalize it.
I want to move with no further 7
expenditures to be made on land fill exploration, resource 8
recovery exploration, and what was your last concern you 9
had there-about -- the third item?
10 VOICE:
Me?
11 VOICE:
Yeah.
12 VOICE:
Land fill.
(Inaudible).
13 VOICE:
I got that covered.
No further 14 explanation on the land fill.
No further explanation on 15 resource recovery.
16 VOICE:
Agreed.
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How about with recycling and septics, are 18 they included or excluded?
19 VOICE:
Nothing on septics.
I would leave the-20 recycling alone.
Nothing on septics, nothing on land fill, 21 nothing on resource recovery.
Want to make that a motion.
22 VOICE:
I ask for point of information from the 23 law firm.
I mean, John -- it's been a long week; excuse me.
24 VOICE:
We haven't had much of an opportunity to l
25 look at the issue.
I was thinking about what we've been l
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One'of the things the seven towns did do when they 2
voted on the one article with respect to the budget and on 3
the district agreement; they adopted the budget -- the board 4
adopted l'ast fall.
5' That budget, under its provisions, the way we're 6
going, reduces pro rata as the number of towns (Inaudible]
7 goes down.
So it appears to me, at least from a practical 8
side, we're getting into areas where it's going to be 9
difficult to deal with guidance of another kind involved, 10 that in that context, it is more appropriate to spend in the 11 budget categories which were approved by the full board and 12 reduced by~the people who have dropped out -- the towns who 13 have dropped out.
14 In addition, it seems that since one of the main 15 concerns of the board and the district has is its 16 organization.
If that's still a problem, [ Inaudible).
Then 17 the next point we got, if you just want to rate it, you have 18 a set of by-laws that requires a two-thirds vote on the 19 monetary.
Here we are talking about a monetary.
20 VOICE:
Question.
Is that a two-thirds vote on 21 any monetary matters, or is that a two-thirds vote on 22 expending money, 23 VOICE:
Well, I think that's a difficult question.
24 We went over this once before at another meeting.
I think, 25 if anything, the budget falls within the provisions.
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don't know how you can get the budget out of those
.2 provisions, even though they vary broadly worded one way or-3 another as well as the other.
So whether that means 4
at this stage that two-thirds of the seven towns that voted-5 in the affirmative or whether its (Inaudible) through the 6
board; I'm not prepared to answer.
But I do think we can 7
spend within the budgetary categories as we do with the five 8
towns that voted in the district; because tne towns have 9
authorized it.
10 VOICE:
I have a motion; I haven't heard it 11 seconded.
I would like to know if it's seconded.
12 VOICE:
Who seconds George's motion.
13 VOICE:
I'll second it.
14 VOICE:
It has been seconded.
Discussion on 15 George's motion.
Only --
want to discuss anything else 16.
afterward -- let you -- on George's motion, please.
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My understanding would be that this is a 18 motion before the planning board, not a motion before the 19 seven towns?
20 VOICE:
That is correct.
Until we get further i
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That is correct.
22 VOICE:
As a result, the budgetary situation of
-23 all would be two-thirds?
24 VOICE:
Correct.
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Okay, thank you.
5 VOICE:
Andrew -- I can't say behind the Federal 1
2' public (Inaudible) here and then here.
3 VOICE:
Yes, in general,-I agree with George; but I don't feel it's quite comprehensible.
I think -- as I 4
5 said earlier, I would like to see a budget prepared._ As.I 6
said before, you people read the comments, and so forth.
Prepare a bare-bones budget from here on in.
Delay some of 7
these things and approach it from that point view, rather 8
than absolutely delusioning these things that George wants 9
10 to do.
11 VOICE:
Okay, could we answer that now.
Henry 12 over here and then over there.
The approach that you heard presented about half an hour ago now that Craig and Bob did, 13 14 is based on the --
without firm numbers -- but a flexible 15
. budget based on~the 214,000 some-odd hundred dollars from 16 the budget.
The verbal expression on what would take place is 17 18 based on spending what is voted-in right now; it's $214,000.
The approach that you heard Craig and Bob discuss about half 19 20 an hour ago an approach based on having a budget of 21.
$214,000.
That's all we know we have today.
- That, basically -- we didn't want to present a budget tonight 22 because we wanted a lot of input before we finally did that.
23 24 But if you'd like, I could have Bob go over it in general l
25 terms where that $214,000 in that verbally expressed
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3 VOICE:
The planning board continues to exist 4
until the final vote on taking a decision occurs at the end 5
of May?
6 VOICE:
Well, whenever that happens.
7 VOICE:
Whenever that happens; hopefully, the end 8
of May.
Is there any money left in the -- overspent?
9 VOICE:
Correct.
10 VOICE:
Okay, so there's nothing to get us into 11 that bind.
12 VOICE:
Correct.
Dave, and then Henry.
13 VOICE:
I keep hearing the questions about the 14 towns that make up [ Inaudible) very much (Inaudible] does 15 that mean we have lifting of more trash (Inaudible).
Don't 16 we normally need engineering studies that actually 17 (Inaudible) quantities we're talking about.
18 The same goes action on landfill.
I think what we 19 ought to do (Inaudible) George.
We certainly ought to make 20 available to towns that are still outstanding any consulting l
21 that we need to do (Inaudible); any further studies to help 22 make up (Inaudible).
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Henry, over here.
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I've got two questions for you.
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1 25 question is do we need to have a statement as of today, or l
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tomorrow?
Tomorrow is April Fool's Day --
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It's also Good Friday, too.
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4 VOICE:
-- we need to know exactly where we are 5
financially.
I know, or at least I've been given to 6
understand, that there's been some overruns in this past 7
year.
We need to know how much that overrun is.
- Actually, 8
factually, the cold plain dollars and know what's 9
outstanding.
10 We also need to know as a part of that the money 11 that not has been forthcoming from Glasgow for one; Newton 12 for another.
Just get rid of all of that.
Write it out, or 13 at least put it so everybody can read it.
If there's an 14 open cash receivable that we do not expect to get; if that's 15 true.
Because we need to know exactly how much of that 16
$213,000 has already been spent.
And I'm not sure and I 17 don't think you are either at this point.
18 VOICE:
Controller, I'd like to answer it.
Number 19 one, there were four towns at the-end of the year that we i-20 didn't 21 know -- what was expected of and we didn't know were coming.
22 I can answer half of that tonight.
Newton passed the money l
23 and the check is on its way to Bob here already; it will be 24 coming this week.
And Hampton passed the money and that 25 check will be appropriated after the first of April.
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I can't answer you that one.
4 Portsmouth has not appropriated money.
Don't know if we're 5
seeing any -- I'm not counting on it right now.
Okay, put 6
it that way.
7 There were over expenditures; part of that will be 8-paid by the Newton and Hampton money coming in.
Part of 9
that also has been told that all facing problems, 10 (Inaudible) at a certain point in time if the district did 11 not form, that money would not be forthcoming.
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Certain monies owed and will be paid -- certain
'13 amounts if the district never forms, the consultants were 14 told several times starting in January, that there was a 15 bottom line and any money that was spent after that was 16 based on different formings and they will need to pay those 17 dollars.
And all three consultants progress on that 18 knowledge.
19 VOICE:
I understand.
We, as members of the L
20 planning board, I'm talking about everybody, should know
~21 where we are as of now --
22 VOICE:
Jeff Partee -- I don't have the book.
23 VOICE:
-- just as quickly as it can be put 24 together --
VOICE:
Let me get a hold of Jeff.
Jeff is 25 not here tonight; he has the books.
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-- and we need to know all the open 3
accounts to us.
Because whether the consultants had spent 4
it or not, they did spend it.
We need to know what is out i
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And I think that's a very important issue.
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hold and George's motion [ Inaudible), but I think the 8
important thing that we're saying to you is, be caroful what 9
original new work you do.
10 If you think that for $3,000 you can reduce the 11 councils from eleven landfill sites -- because you lost some 12 of them anyway, because the towns have turned it down -- if 13 you can reduce the number doom to sin; that's ons thing, t
14 Sat if it's goirig to cost you $25,000, thate s another.
15 VOICE:
Let me answer that question so you'll 16 know.
Bob and I have talked about it.
We have to put it --
17 I've got a number on it.
I'll ask Bob a question.
What's 18 it going to take us to got tror.11 to 67 Pollar-wise, town
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7 think it's importM.t to every tawn takina J vote.
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I'll tell you tomorrow.
21 VOICE:
Tell me tomorrow?
22 VOICE:
We're almost there.
I don't think it's 23 going to cost us much more dollars.
Only hundred of dollars 24 versus thousands, to be down to about six sites.
25 VOICE:
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I want to see it passed; that's what I 5
want to see.
6 VOICE:
I'd like to see it amended.
May I --
7 VOICE:
I'll will get you in order, Abbot; hear 8
Mike and then -- over here, please.
9 VOICE:
Going into town meetings, our town, 10 especially, and I think, Freemont; if your name didn't 11 appear on 11 sitos, it's very easy to vote to join the 12 district and to have it narrowed to six, which is good.
1S Dut, also, to have -- when we went into town meetingo people 14 asked where are the nites in town.
We didn't have that 15 information.
How aro we going to be able to at least have 16 that information for May?
Are we going to be able to tell 17 them exactly where in town those sites t.re going to be, or 18 era We just cott ing everything of f right now.
19 VOICE:
I'll answer it --
7 20 VOICE:
Two sites; you know, two sites in town, 21 what is that?
Where?
22 VOICE:
We can answer that planning board-wise, 23 not engineering-wise.
The district -- I'm sorry -- the 24 planning board had taken several votes starting last August, 25 I believe the first one was, that we would not announce the
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sites, the actual land, until we got the approval.
Unless 2
this board changes its mind -- that's what stands right now.
3 When we get down to three, we'll announce.
The 4
board can change its mind anytime, but that's what exists on 5
the table right now.
But from an engineering point of view, 6
let the people who handle that --
7 VOICE:
We'll tell you, if you want us to bring it 8
down to six very quickly, in all probability you are going 9
to exacerbate your problems (Inaudible) three months 10 (Inaudible), one of the 11 (Inaudible).
11 VOICE:
I figured that.
12 VOICE:
Mike, and then Bob.
13 VOICE:
I just want to add a point.
You still 14 have to go for the distill when this is over, your side.
35 Cur selections, we still have to go to and get local 16 planning board, with local zoning approval, all eccurring at 17
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18 license, we're going to go out and hunt a deer, but we still 19 he.ve to find a deer and locate the dea' and do al'. the -)ther 20 things.
21 VOICE:
Finding the sites -- the harder 22 (Inaudible) work?
It keeps coming up mentioned tonight?
23 Under the old plan, or under the new plan you're talking 24 about tonight, wasn't going to start any earlier than 25 roughly, July, August; okay, this summer.
Even in the past,
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it wasn't going to force anything tonight.
2 So we're finding a site, probably a back-up site, l
3 in a regular scenario, to start that intensive work on.
Okay, there's no guarantee that the site we find even is 4
5 going to pass our own test, never mind the local planning 6
board, state, review and everything else.
That's the 7
process.
It has continued.
We haven't stopped it.
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8 Bob said, it's not going to take up much to get down there.
9 It may not solve the political problem, though.
10 VOICE:
I'm not sure what it does.
Result as 11 earlier tonight, if there were fewer communities to go in, 12 that maybe what you want to do is expand the list of sites, 13 to include all the sites you might have overlooked, in 14 looking for a larger sites.
So, at this point bringing it 15 from 11 to 6, it doesn't take much work, but I'm not sure 16 what i,t d o e rs.
'Jou may vnnt to bri.ng it from 11 to 6 and 17 back up to 14.
You just dor.'t know what you're going to do 18 yet-19 VOICE:
One thing, uight be jacking up the lid, if 20 I cc.n make one quick com.nent, one of the things that things 21 that Freemont says, well, instead of having three of the 22 eleven; even if they had one of six, they'd probably feel a l
23 little bit more comfortable with that if it's only one.
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That's what they said?
I don't believe 25 it, but that's what they said.
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2 VOICE:
As far as South Hampton is concerned, they 3
have two of eleven.
4 VOICE:
Well, one of six is roughly the same 5
thing.
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7 VOICE:
Over here.
8 VOICE:
I think that the point that was made about 9
selecting a site at this point, spending more money to 10 reduce the number of sites from eleven down to six is 11 invalid because we don't know the size of the group that 12 we're now dealing with.
The site selection was based on the 13 criteria of fifteen towns and three other communities 14 outside the regional district.
I 15 We're talking about a whole different kettle of 16 fish here.
The amendment of the proposition that's before 17
.us is George's, which is stop spending money except for 18 legal business that we have to conduct, and I think that we 19 shculd move to vote on ' chat and that's, you know, what we're I
20 discussing here.
21 VOICE:
The question has been moved.
There is no 22 discussion while the question is moved.
All in favor of 23 moving the question.
24 VOICE:
Amendment.
25 VOICE:
Amendment?
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1 VOICE:
I want to get an amendment.
2 VOICE:
No second on the amendment.
3 VOICE:
What I was going to ask George to do, 4
instead of amending his motion, to make it just a little bit 5
less restrictive.
I think there's things other than just 6
legal matters that comes before the planning board, j
particularly with the request that we had for getting the i
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information and so forth, and some of these municipalities 9
were not yet able to vote.
I don't like to see -- a total 10 restriction is what I would like not to see.
11 I would like to have indeed a general 12 understanding that we're not talking about anybody at this 13 juncture; but maybe we may need to let others know further 14 where we're going on anything except the very necessary 15 business of the planning board.
As far as the necessary 16 buciness of the planning board is informational situation we 17 expect amended.
18 VOICE:
George?
19 VOICE:
I don't know whether shLt I've stated 20 there is misunderstood or what.
But my intent was to stop, 21 physically, engineering work.
And no further work on land 22 fill, and no further work on septics.
23 That doesn't necessarily mean that any information 24 you have right now can't be made available.
Certain kinds 25 of information that people might ask for that require
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engineering work to get the answers would not be allowed.
2 VOICE:
Just a point of clarification that I was 3
just reminded and I forgot.
The septic work that has been 4
done to date is ongoing, it's being funded by 1.9M; not by 5
53B tight now.
It has not shifted gears yet over to 53B.
6 VOICE:
What 53B had in it, money for septics, 7
okay --
8 VOICE:
Correct.
9 VOICE:
-- and this basically says you can't spend 10 any --
11 VOICE:
Right.
I understand that.
I just want to 12 make it clear that there is a study that is almost complete, 13 will be coming out, which has been funded by 1.9M.
Just so 14 people understand that; that's all.
15 VOICE:
Going back to moving the question.
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in 16 favor of moving the question, signify by saying, Aye.
17 VOICE:
(Chorus of " ayes.")
18 VOICEt All opposed.
Seeing none, this is a money i
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I'm going to interpret it that this is a money i
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I'm going to call for a roll. call vote, 21-VOICE:
I'm not clear, was there an amendment?
22 VOICE:
No.
It was not seconded or voted on.
23 We talked about the amendment, but it was never amended.
24 Now we're going to do a roll call vote.
Make sure -- you 25 have to be an authorized representative to the planning 1
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board from your town in order to vote.
2 VOICE:
Point of information, 3
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Does Theresa have down there a written 4
statement as to what we're voting on?
5 VOICE:
I'n, certain on that.
6 VOICE:
The meeting moved no further expenditures of funds.
No further expenditures regarding resources 8
recovery, land fill explorations, and septics.
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10 VOICE:
Okay, everybody understands what's the 11 question -- what it's for.
12 VOICE:
Roll call vote.
Again, make sure you're 13 an authorized representative before voting.
14 VOICE:
Brentwood, 15 VOICE:
Yes.
16 VOICE:
East Kingston.
17 (No response.1 18 VOICE:
Exeter.
19 VOICE:
Yes.
20 VOICE:
Freemont.
21 VOICE:
Abstain.
22 VOICE:
Hampton.
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Yes.
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Hampton Falls.
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No.
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Kensington.
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Yes.
3 VOICE:
New Castle.
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No proper representative present.
5 VOICE:
- Newton, 6
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Abstain.
7 VOICE:
North Hampton.
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Yes.
9 VOICE:
Rye.
10 VOICE:
Yes.
11 VOICE:
Sandown.
12 VOICE:
Yes.
13 VOICE:
South Hampton.
14 VOICE:
Yes.
15 VOICE:
[Iraudible) not here.
15 VOICE:
Hampton.
17 VOICE:
Hampstead.
18 VOICE:
Hampton.
19 VOICE:
Hampstead wasn't here.
20 VOICE:
I voted for Hampstead.
21 VOICE:
Yeah, okay.
22 VOICE:
Kingston's not here, unfortunately.
23 VOICE:
How did you put the Danville vote?
24 VOICE:
Danville?
Let's see.
25 VOICE:
I don't have you in my attendance for last
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2 VOICE:
Point of order, Ken, this is a weighted 3
vote, I assume.
4 VOICE:
Like all other votes, this is a weighted 5
vote, based on last year's formula.
Based on last year's 6
formula where Exeter gets two votes, Hampton gets three 7
votes, and everybody else gets one.
We're under last year's 8
by-laws still.
9 VOICE:
It carries.
10 VOICE:
It carries.
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Any other new business.
I'm out of new 12 business.
I don't have anything else.
13-VOICE:
I want to field discussion in the last 14 meeting that in the fifty three planning board, we do not 15 have a delegate or an alternate.
We have two 16 representatives, or three representatives.
We don't have 17 one person as a delegate and alternates.
18 VOICE:
That's correct.
We have three.
As you 19 found out at the meeting in December, when there was two people from Newton here who didn't agree on several votes.
20 21 We have to vote as a block >
All three of you have to come 22 to consensus before you can vote.
But if there's an opposition, we had to abstain several times because two of 23 24 us voted in the opposite direction.
So if you're one of 25 three people or one of two people tonight, or anytime this
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block.
If there's any confusion, that was brought up a 3
couple times.
4 VOICE:
Theresa, if there is nothing; we will 5
adjourn.
6 VOICE:
Quickly, I left some hazardous waste 7
flyers on the tab 3e tonight.
I ask if you could take those 8
back to your towns with you.
The collections are starting 9
the end of April and if you can drop some of those off at 10 the library or the town hall, or the children in the school.
11 I would appreciate the fact that you can take some of them 12 now.
13 I have thousands of these flyers, so if you'd like 14 more, I have some more here.
In addition, I have a couple 15 of towns who have sent in their new representatives, but 16 other towns have not.
So if you can keep with your town 17 clerk and your selectman about appointing --
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A reminder, if you vote, yes, 53B, you 19 have ten days for your board of selectman or city council to 20 send your authorized representative and two alternstes, in 21 writing, to the planning board.
So-if you haven't done 22 that; -- I've got some in the last couple days that I will 23 be turning over to her tonight.
24 VOICE:
I have another question.
25 VOICE:
John, then I will come to you, George.
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The by-laws as 3
they presently stand state that after the board requests the 4
municipalities at the town meeting of 1988, or their city 5
council it should then terminate unless extended by a vote 6
of the municipalities.
We have -- the time referred to in that by-law is 7
8 a very difficult time to return them.
It probably -- if you 9
wanted to push it, time when the organization could get the 10 materials down to town selectman, councilman.
So it appears 11 to us it is appropriate to amend the by-laws for this 12 particular existence till the district vote is taken.
So we 13 are preparing an amendment which will delete the last 14 sentence of Article 40, Section 2.1, which read as follows:
15 the SRR-DPD shall report on municipalities at town meeting, 16 1988, or the City Council, and then shall terminate unless 17 extended by vote by the municipality.
18 And we would propose a substitute to that:
SRR-19 DPD 20 shall report to the municipality at the town meeting, 1988, 21 board of city council, which shall terminate at midnight on 22 the date regional registers disposal with the committee.
23 The new district proposed by the SRR-DPD takes its final 24 vote as soon as R site B
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-- to establish such district.
2 VOICE:
Thinking abcut your motion (Inaudible).
3 VOICE:
Second.
4 VOICE:
So moved.
5 VOICE:
So moved, first: then a second.
6 VOICE:
He can't make a motion.
He's got to get 7
somebody else to move it.
8 VOICE:
It's been moved and seconded.
Any 9
discussion on that.
10 VOICE:
Being none, all in favor cIgnify by 11 saying, aye.
12 VOICE:
[ Chorus of ayes.)
13 VOICE:
All opposed.
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George.
16 VOICE:
You mentioned that the 53B eligible voted 17 that within ten days they're supposed to have their 18 representatives appointed in (Inaudible).
My understanding 19 would be that they do not have a vote until that district is 20 formed.
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That is correct.
22 VOICE:
They can come here and they can listen, 23 but they don't have a vote.
24 VOICE:
Correct.
The planning board 25 representatives hold until the district is formed, when it 3
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2 VOICE:
Not to prolong this, I just wanted to know i
if we get down to six sites, are we going to disclose the 3
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location?
5 VOICE We're not going any farther than the 6
eleven sites -- the vote was just taken.
7 VOICE:
Okay, that's it.
8 VOICE:
We'll let's put it this way --
9 VOICE:
The location of those sites are not going 10 to be disclosed?
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Not unless this board votes differently.
12 The vote of the board that stands right now is -- I'm not saying that this is the vote of the record -- is that when 13 If this we get the three sites, we'll disclose those sites.
14 board wants to change their minds, their collective minds, 15 16 and vote differently on that, fine.
Until then, I don't 17 have the authority to release them.
18 VOICE:
So that means South Hampton still gets twc 19 sites.
20 VOICE:
Before I answer that question, what I just said, we may have enough information right now by spending a 21 22 little time to have that list now.
If we do, I will let you 23 know as soon as I'm told that.
(Inaudible) not spending any more money --I'll be in discussion with Bob and Craig over 24 25 the next three or four days.
I will inform you on the 14th.
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3 VOICE:
Mike.
4 VOICE:
Is there a 53B neeting scheduled for next 5
month?
6 VOICE:
We have not scheduled one yet.
Tentatively, it is on the calendar for the third Thursday in 7
8 April.
Tentatively, to just let you know for May, 9
hasically, if everybody's voted by May 10, which I guess is
-- we have to give them ten days to appoint representatives.
10 So technically, we could meet -- as long as it's 11 12 the third Thursday, which will be the 17th.
So we 13 tentatively scheduled May 26th.
But if somebody hasn't 14 voted by then, you won't be voting that night.
Let's put it 15 that way.
So, tentatively, it's May 26, but it's still up 16 in the air.
17 If you haven't signed the list, please do so on 18 your way out.
19 VOICE:
I need a motion to adjourn.
Second.
All 20 in favor.
See you the second or third week in April.
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SIDE B FOLLOWS***
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SEABROOK CONTROL ROOM /TRED ANDERSON, JR.
3 START TIME:
4 APRIL 5, 1989 5
6 VOICE:
Wes Burnham, Control Room.
7 (Pause.)
8 VOICE:
Is that woman from --
9 (Pause.)
10 (Transmission noise.)
11 VOICE:
yes, Wes.
12 (Transmiscion noise.)
13 VOICE:
Oakey-Doakey.
14 VOICE:
Wes, what's that low temperature alarm set point i
15 at?
16 (Transmission noise.)
17 VOICE:
Say it, again.
18 (Transmission noise.)
19 (Transmission noise.)
20 VOICE:
Okay, thank you.
21 (Pause.)
22 VOICE:
Wes Burnham, Control Room.
23 (Pause.)
24 VOICE:
Wes, did you ever pick up those head sets?
25 (Pause.)
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Okay, thank you.
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Bob Neilsen, Control Room.
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Burnham.
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Wes'Burnham, call the Control Room, please.
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a 12 (Transmisnion noise.)
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15 VOICE:
Mark McCarthy, come up.
16 (Pause.)
17 VOICE:
McCarthy.
18 VOICE:
The fuel well vacuum stack is about 50 percent 19 full, and is showing about 50 percent in the lower Inaudible).
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Okay.
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Wes Burnham, Control.
22 VOIC l
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Wes, what are you doing right now?
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Was, are you just on your rounds?
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6
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7
[ Transmission noise.)
8 (Pause.)
9
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10 VOICE:
Ed Albee, come up.
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12 VOICE:
This is the Control Room.
13 (Pause.)
this is one of them -- forgot to bring 14 VOICE:
'ean, Fsr, i
15 up 11 key with me.
Is there anybody dowra this area?
-16 VOICE:
Give me that one more time, Wes.
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I 18 VOICE:
I neglected to bring a 11 mess key with me.
19 just wondered if anybody's down in this area.
20 VOICE:
Are you in the vault right now, Wes?
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VOICE:
That's correct.
22 VOICE:
All right.
I'll have Mike Morrow bring one down.
Maybe you can meet him at the top of the vault.
23 24 VOICE:
Sure will.
25 VOICE:
Okay.
Mike's on his way.
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2 VOICE:
Mike Morrow.
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4 VOICE:
Mike Morrow, come up.
5 (Pause.)
6 VOICE:
Control Room, Wilkinson, radio check.
7 VOICE:
Read you loud and clear, Terry.
8 VOICE:
Copy.
9 VOICE:
Mike Morrow, come up.
10 (Pause.)
11 (Transmission noise.)
12 VOICE:
Go ahead, Mike, Control.
13 (Transmission noise.)
14 (Transmissiors noise.)
15-(Transmission noise.)
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17 VOICE:
Mike Morrow, Control, take a look at TAB expansion 18 tank, 50 foot, we got a recomp on that since the system's cool 19 down's.
You need to empty those buckets.
20 (Transmission noise.)
21 VOICE:
John (Inaudible).
22 VOICE:
What do you say, Wes.
23 VOICE:
I can't find any other checks in the vault at all, 24 especially within reach.
You want to come up and try one of 25 the extensions, I think we got one in the drawer up there.
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All right.
Copy.
Let me look around here first.
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5 VOICE:
Okay, Mike.
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This is a full lock, they should close the 8
breakers.
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i 31 VOICE:
Wes Vernon, Control,-
12 VOICE:
Go ahaud, ) ten, j
13 VOICE:
I want yo'A to meet Rob Fanning, the containment 14 hack, he's going to swap headsets with claire.
And wa'11 ge 15 ahecd and use hers.
Che's got the long bor.doet on her, 5,6 VOICE:
Okay.
See you in a mir.uta.
I left mine down in 17 the vault.
18 VOICE:
That's no problem, he's bringing a set down to her 19 already, so all you have to meet him up there.
Save yourself a 20 trip, just meet him at the can.
21 VOICE:
Thank you.
22 (Pause.)
23 VOICE:
Claire, Control Room, come up.
24 (Pause.)
25 VOICE:
I don't think she's got her radio on.
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Yes, she did a minute ago.
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Claire, it's Control, come up.
4 (Pause.)
5 (Transmission noise.)
6 (Pause.)
7 (Transmission noise.)
8 (Pause.)
9 VOICE:
Control Room.
10 (Pause.)
11 VOICT,:
Control Room.
12 VOICE:
'I'm leaving a protected areta.
13 VOICE:
1 copy.
14 (Pause.)
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[ Transmission noise.)
16 (Pause.)
17 VOICE:
Control. Room, Burnham.
10 (Pause.)
19' VOICE:
Control Room.
20 VOICE:
Kenney, I'm already sitting on the phone.
Okay, I'll get him a headset and we'll verify we 21 VOICE:
22 have good communication.
23 VOICE:
Roger.
24 (Pause.)
25 VOICE:
Wes Burnham, Control.
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2' VOICE:
Yeah, Wes, get on the headset so we can verify 3
communication.
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5 VOICEt I amt should be plugged into Channel 1.
6 VOICEt You are on Channel 17 7
VOICE:
I believe so.
8 VOICE:
I can't get a hold of you.
Check that to make 9
sure yriu're o7 Channel 2, 20 VOICE:
Stand by.
11 (Pause.)
12 VOICEt (Inaudible), come up.
13 (Pause.)
14 VOICE:
Okay, Wes.
I 15 VOICE:
I'm plugged into Channel 1 on instrument rack 23.
1 16 (Pause.1 17 VOICE:
Wes Burnham, come back.
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I am plugged into Channel 1 on ir.strument rack 23; 19 if that help's.
20 (Pause.)
21 VOICE:
Wes Burnham, Control.
22 VOICE:
All right, Ken.
23 VOICE:
Wes, I cannot get you on any channel on the 24 headset.
Try changing a different instrument rack.
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All right, I'll get back to you.
2 VOICE:
Do you still have the other headset down there 3
with you?
4 (Pause.)
5 VOICE:
Mike Morrow, come up.
6 (Transmission noise.]
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Hey, Mike, did you check that water fill on that B
BTRS tystem?
9 (Transmission noisc.)
10 VOICE:
Why don't you give me a call in th(, Cor. trol Room, 11 again.
12 (Transmission noise.)
1 13 (Pauso.)
14 VOICE:
DINC, Control.
15 (Transmission noise.)
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. VOICE:
Yeah, we're going to need that 50 foot extension 1*/
<;ord.
Can you go ahead, grab it, and take it down to the RHR 18 vault, train B?
19 (Transmission noise.)
20 VOICE:
Yeah, there's an AO down there by the name of Wes 21 Burnham, he's on the headsets down there.
22 (Transmission noise.)
23 (Pause.)
24 VOICE:
(Inaudible) McCarron, come up.
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This is Clyde, go ahead.
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Bill Rainey, the AR, there's a ladder out on the 3
service water pump house building --
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All right.
S VOICE:
-- they were using it to get up on top of the roof 6
to remove the plugs.
Could you and Jerry go out and help 7
security take it down.
a VOICE:
We can do that.
9 VOICE:
Hay, they have t> be taken down overy night. You 10 might want to leave them a note, so if thay are going to go up 11 there uvery day, they gotta take it down when they'ze done 12 becar.se it's a vital area.
13 VOICE:
We'll pass that on.
14 VO7CE:
Copy.
Thank you.
15 (Pause.)
16 (Transmission noise.)
17 VOICE:
Say it, Mike.
18 (Transmission noise.)
19 (Pause.)
20 VOICE:
It's breaking off, Mike, I can't read you.
Would 21 you call us on the phone.
22 (Transmission noise.)
23 (Pause.)
24 (Transmission noise.)
25 VOICE:
Go ahead, Mike.
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(Transmission noise.)
2 VOICE:
What do you have for a temperature local?
3 (Transmission noise.)
4 (Transmission noise.)
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VOICE:
Okay, Mike.
6 (Transmission noise.)
7 (Pause.)
8 VOICE:
Mark Thompson.
Mark Thompson, call the Control 9
Room.
10 (Pause.)
11 VOIC2:
DINC, come up.
32 (Pause.)
13 VOICE:
Morrow, come up.
14 (Pause.)
15 (Transmis31cn noise.)
16 VOICE.
Mike, your PAB extension tank level low; reset.
17 (Transmission noise.)
18 (Pause.)
19 (Transmission noise.)
20 (Pause.)
21 VOICE:
Terry Wilkinson, come up.
22' (Pause.)
23 (Transmission noise.)
24 (Transmission noise.)
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2 VOICE:
All right.
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4 VOICE:
Okay, Mike, you can go out through 603.
5 (Pause.)
6 (Transmission noise.)
7 (Pause.)
8 VOICE:
Mark Thompson, come up.
9 (Transmission noise.)
10 VOICE:
Yonh, Mark, thin is dut.y locitaraic, Aain Flent.
?1 Would yo2 call me at 43?( vhen you get.a enance, 12
[Transmiasion noise,)
13 (Pause.]
14 (Transmission noise.)
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Mike, copy.
Hold on.
16 (Pause.)
17 VOICE:
Mike, you can come through 603.
18
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19 (Transmission noise.)
20 (Pause.)
21 VOICE:
Copy, Mike.
22 (Pause.)
23 VOICE:
Mike Thompson, come up.
24 (Transmission noise.)
25 VOICE:
C-4 is open.
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DINC, come up.
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[ Transmission noise.)
6 VOICE:
This is Paul?
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t YWah, Paul, ve re valving in level indicator 9504.
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Wo'd like you to down and vent the transmitter.
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12 VOICE:
9405 is down at the bottom of containment off loop i
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loop 1, inside tha missile shield.
Claire is down'there,-
14 she can show yoo where it is.
15 (Transmission noise.)
16 VOICE:
Give me a call b6 fore you come back up.
17 (Transmission noise.)
18 (Pause.)
19 VOICE:
Charlie (Inaudible).
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21 VOICE:
Charlie (Inaudible), come up.
22 VOICE:
Control, go ahead.
23 VOICE:
CBSZ-24 (Inaudible) closed.
1 24-VOICE:
Copy.
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Wes Burnham, Control.
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Go ahead; Wes.
Okay, Wes, I'm going to go ahead and open from the 3
VOICE:
4 control board, RHC 21 then I'll open up CBSZ-5.
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6 VOICE:
(Inaudible).
7 VOICE:
I need you to get back on the headset at 33 and 8
you can leave Terry down by CBSZ'6.
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VOICE:
Understocd.
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11 (Transmission noise.]
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13 (Transmission noise.)
la VOICE:
Terry Wilkinson, Contro3.
15 VOICE:
Go ahead.
Okay, Terry, we'd like for you to go ahead and 16 VOICE:
17 close CPSZ-6.
i 18 (Transmission noise.)
19 VOICE:
Copy.
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21 (Transmission noise.)
22 (Pause.)
23
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24 VOICE:
Mike, this is Dan in the Control Room.
Terry's 25 down in the vault.
What do you need?
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Charles (Inaudible).
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6 VOICE:
This is the Control Room.
Someone send a call?
7 VOICE:
(Inaudible), B-6 is in unlocked and closed.
I'had 8
(Inaudible).
Get on the phone.
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Copy, Wes.
CBS valve 6 is closed; headed back up l
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I 12 VOICE:
Mike Morrow.
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Terry Wilkinson, Control.
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16 VOICE:
Go ahead.
17 VOICE:
What's your location?
I'm out there?
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19 VOICE:
Just walked into the Turbine Building.
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Call on the phone, please.
22 VOICE:
Copy.
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1 24 VOICE:
Joe Mayer, come up.
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38 Joe, we've got the chlorination-system trouble
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I don't know if you've been out through that 3
building; I don't know why it's in.
4 (Transmission noise.)
5 VOICE:
(Inaudible) 6 (Pause.)
7 VOICE:
Mayer, come up.
8 (Pause.)
9 VOICE:
Joe _Mayer, come up.
10 (Pause.)
11 VOICE:
Control Room, Mayer.
12 (Pause.)
13 VOICE:
Go ahead, Joe, your alarm just reset.
14 VOICE:
Ye6h, I'm aware of that; I'll give you a call.
15 VOICE:
Copy.
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17 VOICE:
Control Room, Wilkinson.
18' VOICE:
Go ahead, Terry, it's Control.
19 VOICE:
I'm located down at the suction of the Bravo-area 20 (Inaudible).
21 VOICE:
I copy.
What are you reading right now for the 22 temporary gages?
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24 VOICE:
The suction is reading 28, the valodine is reading 25 74.
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Okay, I copy the 74 one.
What's the other one-2 reading?
3 (Transmission noise.]
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It's reading two eight; two eight.
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6 VOICE:- Terry, step out of the pump room into the hallway 7
and give me what the suction pressure is.
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9 VOICE:
Copy.
10 (Pause.)
11 VOICE:
Terry Wilkinson, Control.
12 (Transmission noise.)
13 VOICE:
Go ahead.
14 VOICE:
Terry, is there another headset downstairs in the j
15 (Inaudible)?
16 (Transmission noise.)
17 VOICE:
Yeah, there is.
It certainly now been's shielded 18 from our microphone (Inaudible).
Shall I try it?
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Go ahead and try it.
It doesn't matter what channel 20 you're in, I got you on the line.
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22 VOICE:
Okay, stand by a minute.
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24 VOICE:
DINC, come up.
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2 VOICE:
Duty INC, call the Control Room, please.
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4 VOICE:
Jerry Wells, come up.
5 (Pause.)
6 VOICE:
Jerry Wells.
7 (Pause.)
8 VOICE:
Jerry, this is Joe Mayer.
I just wanted to let 9
you know that I've hung a tagging order on the surf water 10 strain 1-C.
11 VOICE:
Okay, thanks.
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13 VOICE:
Paul Gode, call the Control Room.
Paul Gode, call 14 the Control Room.
15 (Pause.)
16 VOICE:
(Inaudible), come up.
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18 VOICE:
Duty Chemistry, come up.
19 (Pause.)
20 VOICE:
Chemistry.
21 VOICE:
Yeah, we just swapped over the steam generator to 22 the Bravo.
23 VOICE:
Exactly what time?
24 VOICE:
Just now, 2018.
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Thompson, come up.
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3 (Transmission noise.]
4 (Pause.]
5 VOICE:
Control Room, Mayer.
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Go ahead, Joe.
7 VOICE:
I'm leaving the protected area.
8 VOICE:. I copy.
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Control Room, Mayer.
I'm back inside the 11 protected area.
.12 VOICE:
-I copy, Joe.
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14 VOICE:
Terry Wilkinson, Control.
15 (Pause.)
16 (Transmission noise.)
17 VOICE:
Copy, Terry.
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[ Transmission noise.]
20 (Pause.)
21 VOICE:
DINC, come up.
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DINC, come up.
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