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Transcript of River Bend, Unit 1, License Renewal Scoping Public Meeting Held 09-19-2017, Pages 1-21
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Official Transcript of Proceedings NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION

Title:

River Bend Station, Unit 1 License Renewal Scoping Public Meeting Docket Number:

50-458 Location:

St. Francisville, Louisiana Date:

Tuesday, September 19, 2017 Work Order No.:

NRC-3271 Pages 1-21 NEAL R. GROSS AND CO., INC.

Court Reporters and Transcribers 1323 Rhode Island Avenue, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20005 (202) 234-4433

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION

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PUBLIC MEETING ON THE LICENSE RENEWAL SCOPING MEETING RIVER BEND STATION, UNIT 1

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TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 19, 2017 7:00 p.m.

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The Public Meeting was convened at St.

Francisville Town Hall, Town Hall Meeting Room, 11936 Ferdinand Street, St. Francisville, Louisiana 70775.

PRESENT:

DANIEL C. MUSSATTI, Facilitator EMMANUEL SAYOC, Safety Project Manager ROBERT HOFFMAN, Environmental Project Manager GEORGE A. WILSON, Director of Division of License Renewal

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 P R O C E E D I N G S 1

MR. MUSSATTI: Thank you, everybody, for 2

coming out. My name is Dan Mussatti, and I'd like 3

to welcome you and thank you for participating in the 4

environmental scoping meeting to discuss the 5

relicensing application for River Bend Station.

6 My job here as a facilitator is to help 7

ensure that today's meeting is informative, 8

productive, and ends on time. I don't think the last 9

one's going to be a problem. Has everyone signed in 10 that's in here? If you haven't, I would appreciate 11 before you leave you sign up outside there. Grab any 12 of the paperwork out there that you think might be 13 informative to you. There's a CD out there that I 14 especially like. It's the annual CD that the NRC 15 puts out that tells you everything about all the 16 nuclear power plants in the country and what they're 17 doing and a little bit about what we're doing as an 18 agency.

19 The agenda for today is pretty simple.

20 I'm going to make a couple of opening comments and 21 then two members of the NRC staff that are here are 22 going to talk for a few minutes, and then we're going 23 to take public comments from anybody that really would 24 like to speak. And that's what we're really here 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 for, is for your input into the relicensing process.

1 NRC is a safety-oriented organization, 2

and so I think what I want to do is start out by 3

mentioning a few basic housekeeping safety issues.

4 If we have to evacuate from here for any reason, 5

please don't go too far once you get outside so we 6

can do a nose count and make sure that everybody got 7

out safely. I don't think we're going to have any 8

problems and it's pretty straightforward.

9 The restrooms, if you don't know where 10 they are, go out this door, make a right, make a right 11 and it's down towards the end of the hallway. There 12 is a men's and ladies restroom right in between a 13 fountain, which reminds me that there's not supposed 14 to be any food or drink in the room, so we want to 15 stay away from that.

16 This is what's called a category three 17 meeting, and it's to identify key environmental type 18 issues related to the license renewal of the River 19 Bend Station Unit 1. This meeting lets NRC work 20 directly with the public so that we can understand 21 key issues that the public sees that we may not see 22 from where we are way over in Washington when we start 23 putting together the environmental impact statement 24 for this.

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 We're going to run this as a Town Hall 1

meeting, which is a little bit more informal than 2

some that we have, but today's feedback is considered 3

to be public comment, and we have a court reporter 4

with us is going to be transcribing everything that 5

we that we say. Her name is Shara, and there'll be 6

some additional tips on how to speak here in just a 7

minute.

8 Some ground rules for what we do. If 9

you've got anything in your pocket that buzzes, rings, 10 beeps, or talks back to you, it would be appreciated 11 if you would just turn that thing off entirely. If 12 you have to leave it on because of the type of job 13 you've got, then throw her on vibrate. And if you 14 if you have to take a call for some reason, please 15 don't start talking until you get out of the door so 16 that we, you know, we don't distract anyone any more 17 than we necessarily have to.

18 We want to make everything informal today 19 so everyone's comfortable and feels like it's a 20 friendly atmosphere, but that doesn't mean we can 21 overlook some of the basic niceties of life. One 22 person talks at a time. We want to try to limit 23 everybody. We've only got two hours for this 24 meeting, and if I divide it through here, I think I 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 can give every one of you about 20 minutes to be able 1

to speak, but normally we say three to five minutes 2

per speaker and then give somebody else a chance to 3

speak. Towards the end we can always come back and 4

when everyone's had a chance you can have another 5

chance to speak again.

6 If you walk out the door like I do after 7

an argument and say, "I should've said that", you can 8

always send the comments back into the NRC, and they 9

will be added to the public record just as if you 10 were here in this meeting. So you have unlimited 11 ways of being able to participate in this -- until 12 what is it October 23rd, is that the deadline?

13 MR. WILSON: Yes.

14 MR. MUSSATTI: October 23rd. That's when 15 the public comment period ends. The speakers need to 16 be able to be heard without any distractions, without 17 any background clutter noise, so please keep, you 18 know, side comments and sidebar discussions down to 19 a minimum, and when you're at the microphone, you 20 should speak as clearly and plainly as you possibly 21 can. Start by giving your name. If it's a challenge 22 to actually spell your name, you might actually help 23 by spelling your last name. My name is spelled, M-24 u-s-s-a-t-t-i, Mussatti, so that way it'll help so 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 that we've got an accurate report of what's going on 1

here.

2 And one more thing: This is a public 3

meeting for your input. We don't have any hardly 4

anybody out there that's planning on speaking. I 5

would encourage you to take your First Amendment right 6

seriously and say something. It's important for us 7

to know what people in the public think.

8 Does anyone have any questions? Then 9

what I think I'm going to do is I'm going to turn the 10 meeting over to -- Manny I think you're speaking 11 first, and I'm going to go sit down.

12 MR. SAYOC: Okay. Good evening. My 13 name is Emmanuel Sayoc, I'm a Safety Project Manager 14 for the division of license renewal for the office of 15 nuclear regulation for the NRC. With me today is Mr.

16 George Wilson, the Division Director for the division 17 of license renewal and Robert Hoffman, Environmental 18 Project Manager. Our goal is to provide you with an 19 overview of the license renewal process for River 20 Bend, focusing on safety and environmental reviews.

21 Next slide.

22 The NRC is a

federal agency that 23 regulates the civilian use of nuclear material. The 24 Atomic Energy Act authorizes the NRC to grant a 40 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 year license for nuclear power reactors. That 40-1 year term was based primarily on economic 2

considerations and antitrust factors and mental 3

safety through technical limitations. The Atomic 4

Energy Act also allows for license renewal. The 5

NRC's mission is threefold: to ensure adequate 6

protection of public health and safety, to promote 7

common defense and security, and to protect the 8

environment. Next slide.

9 The NRC accomplishes its mission with a 10 combination of regulatory programs and processes, 11 such as establishing rules and regulations and 12 conducting oversight, which consists of conducting 13 inspections, issuing enforcement actions and 14 assisting --- I'm sorry -- and assessing license and 15 performance. We also evaluate operating experience 16 for nuclear plants across the country and 17 internationally as well.

18 The NRC has resident inspectors at all 19 operating nuclear power plants. For River Bend, as 20 you know, they're Jeffrey Sowa and Brian Parks.

21 These inspectors are considered eyes and ears of the 22 NRC. They carry out our safety mission on a daily 23 basis, and are the front lines of ensuring acceptable 24 safety performance and compliance with regulatory 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 requirements. Next slide.

1 The River Bend construction permit was 2

issued by the NRC in March 1977. The operating 3

license was issued in November 1985, and the plant 4

began operations in June 1986. The River Bend 5

operating license expires in August 2025 and the 6

licensee submitted the license renewal application in 7

May 2017 to seek operations through August 2045.

8 Next slide.

9 This slide illustrates the overall 10 regulatory process for safety during the license 11 renewal period. The left side is the same as the 12 slide we discussed earlier. The regulatory framework 13 continues to be maintained to be effective during the 14 River Bend license renewal period. The aging 15 management box to the right represents the additional 16 licensing base requirements for license renewal.

17 Next slide.

18 The regulations of license renewal are 19 described by two principles.

To effectively 20 communicate these principles, I need to describe the 21 licensing basis concept. Licensing basis consists 22 of design, operational requirements, and conditions 23 that must be met for the plant to comply with its 24 operating license. The primary focus of these 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 requirements is to maintain public health and safety.

1 They serve as a basis on which NRC originally licensed 2

the plant. To continue to operate, that plant must 3

conform with this licensing basis. The first license 4

renewal principle is that the current regulatory 5

process is adequate. The relationship between our 6

regulations, licensing, and oversight activities 7

provides for adequate protection of public health and 8

safety at every point during the plant's life.

9 The second license renewal principle 10 describes maintaining the current license basis for 11 the plant in the same manner and the same extent as 12 during the original licensing term. This includes 13 any additional regulatory changes or requirements 14 that were implemented based on operating experience.

15 The one change to the current license 16 basis is the inclusion of aging management activities 17 to comply with Part 54. Next slide.

18 This flowchart highlights that the 19 license renewal involves two parallel reviews: the 20 safety review and the environmental review. These 21 two reviews evaluate separate aspects of the license 22 renewal application. It also features three other 23 considerations in the NRC decision on whether or not 24 to renew an operating license.

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 The dotted lines show that hearings may 1

be conducted if interested stakeholders submit 2

concerns or contentions and the request for a hearing 3

is granted. The Atomic Safety and Licensing Board, 4

which is an independent body of judges, will conduct 5

these hearings. The Commission considers the outcome 6

of the hearing process and its decision on whether or 7

not to issue a renewed operating license.

8 As part of the environmental review, the 9

staff consults with local, state, federal, and tribal 10 officials and staff may hold public meetings to 11 receive comments of the drafted environment impact 12 statement.

13 Now, Robert Hoffman will continue with 14 the discussion on environmental review.

15 MR. HOFFMAN: Thanks, Manny. The 16 environmental reviewing is performed in accordance 17 with the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969, 18 commonly referred to as NEPA. NEPA established a 19 national policy for considering environmental impacts 20 and provides the basic architecture for federal and 21 environmental reviews.

22 All federal agencies must follow a 23 systematic approach in evaluating potential impacts 24 of their actions, and also to assess alternatives to 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 those actions. The NEPA process allows both public 1

participation and public disclosure. The two primary 2

parts of the process designed to allow public 3

participation are during the public scoping meeting 4

and during the public comment period. The public 5

scoping meeting is what we are participating in today.

6 Following publication of the draft 7

supplemental EIS, or SEIS, the NRC allows an 8

opportunity to hold a second public meeting during 9

the public comment period on the draft SEIS. Next 10 slide, please.

11 I'd like to discuss what we mean by 12 scoping. Scoping is the process used to determine 13 the range of issues and alternatives to be considered 14 in the EIS, and it is intended to ensure that concerns 15 are identified early and properly evaluated. Next 16 slide.

17 Scoping is used to define a proposed 18 action. With regard to River Bend, the NRC's 19 proposed action is to decide whether to renew the 20 River Bend Station's Unit 1 operating license for an 21 additional 20 years. Identifying significant issues.

22 Scoping inputs are also used to identify these 23 significant issues. NRC prepared NUREG-1437, the 24 Generic Environmental Impact Statement for License 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 Renewal of Nuclear Power Plants. This generic EIS, 1

or GEIS, identified and evaluated 61 environmental 2

issues that are generic to all US nuclear power 3

plants. However, the GEIS also identified 17 4

environmental issues that require an additional site-5 specific analysis, the results of which will be the 6

focus of the supplemental EIS now being prepared.

7 Scoping also is used to identify 8

consulting agencies, assemble NRC's interdisciplinary 9

review team, and determine additional data that may 10 need to be collected or developed to support the 11 environmental analysis. Next slide.

12 The NRC issues the following documents in 13 association with the environmental scoping process.

14 The notice of intent to prepare the supplemental 15 environmental statement informs the public about the 16 scoping process. The notice identifies the federal 17 action, the comment period, and methods by which 18 comments can be provided. NRC also issues scoping 19 letters to federal, state, and tribal government 20 agencies and press releases and newspaper advisements 21 to announce the public meeting and scoping process.

22 At the conclusion of the scoping process, 23 the NRC prepares and issues an environmental scoping 24 summary report that identifies comments received 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 during the scoping period, provides responses to the 1

comments received, and identifies significant issues 2

identified as a result of the scoping process. Next 3

slide.

4 For the environmental review, NRC looks 5

at a wide range of environmental issues and evaluates 6

the impacts of those issues with respect to license 7

renewal as shown on this slide. The focus of this 8

review is on the 17 site-specific issues identified 9

in the GEIS, as well as on any new and significant 10 information pertaining to the generic environmental 11 issues.

The environmental review considers 12 mitigation for those impacts considered significant.

13 The NRC also considers the impacts of 14 alternatives to license renewal including the impacts 15 of not issuing a renewed license. We document our 16 review in a

supplemental environmental impact 17 statement, which is made publicly available. Next 18 slide.

19 In conducting our environmental review, 20 we consult with various federal, state, and local 21 officials as well as tribal leaders and gather 22 pertinent information from these sources to ensure it 23 is considered in our analysis. Examples of these 24 consultations include the Environmental Protection 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 Agency, the National Marine Fisheries Service, which 1

is an agency under the National Oceanic and 2

Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, and the Fish and 3

Wildlife Service.

4 Ultimately, the purpose of the 5

environmental review is to determine whether or not 6

the environmental impacts of license renewal could be 7

so great that license renewal would become 8

unreasonable. The SEIS will be considered in 9

conjunction with other safety-related reviews in 10 recommending to the Commission whether to renew River 11 Bend's operating license.

12 I would now like to turn the presentation 13 back over to Manny, who will discuss with you the 14 safety review component of the license renewal 15 process.

16 MR. SAYOC: This flowchart highlights the 17 license renewal safety review. The purpose of the 18 safety review is to verify that River Bend has fully 19 analyzed the management of aging effects to conclude 20 that the plant can be operated safely during the 21 period of extended operation. The license renewal 22 application must contain technical information and 23 evaluations about the different types of plant aging 24 that might be encountered at the plant and how River 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 Bend will manage or mitigate those aging effects.

1 After completion of the evaluation, the 2

staff's review is documented in the safety evaluation 3

report. In addition, a regional inspection report 4

and a Regional Administrator's recommendation are 5

issued to document the results of inspections 6

conducted and the overall regional oversight. One 7

of these considerations is the independent review 8

performed by the Advisory Committee for Reactor 9

Safeguards, commonly referred to as ACRS.

10 Statutorily mandated by the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, 11 the ACRS is a group of independent scientists and 12 nuclear safety experts who serve as a consulting body 13 to the Commission. The ACRS reviews the license 14 renewal application, the NRC staffs safety 15 evaluation, and inspection findings. The ACRS 16 reports their findings and makes recommendations 17 directly to the Commission.

18 Subsequently, the results of the 19 evaluation are reviewed by the ACRS, and based on the 20 review of the information presented, the ACRS issues 21 a recommendation letter whether to grant the renewed 22 license. This step is very valuable since it 23 provides an independent third-party assessment of the 24 information.

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 The dotted lines show that hearings may 1

be conducted if interested stakeholders submit 2

concerns or contentions and their request for a 3

hearing is granted. The Atomic Safety and Licensing 4

Board, which is an independent body of judges, will 5

conduct these hearings. The Commission considers the 6

outcome of the hearing process in its decision on 7

whether or not to issue a renewed operating license.

8 Next slide.

9 In summary, before deciding to issue a 10 renewed operating license, the Commission considers 11 various factors. They are namely the staffs safety 12 review, which is documented in the safety evaluation 13 report, the staff's environmental review, which 14 involves preparation of our environmental impact 15 statement, the NRC inspection findings and 16 conclusions, recommendations from the Advisory 17 Committee for Reactor Safeguards, and if a hearing is 18 conducted, the outcome of that process is considered 19 as well.

20 It is the goal of the NRC staff to 21 complete the license renewal review and issue a 22 renewed operating license in 18 months from the time 23 that application is accepted if a hearing is not 24 involved. If contentions are proffered and admitted 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 to hearing, then the schedule is typically extended 1

to 30 months to accommodate the hearing process.

2 That completes our presentation on the 3

license renewal review process. Next slide.

4 This slide shows important milestones for 5

the safety review process. It is important to know 6

that these dates are tentative. If any issues are 7

identified during the review, delays may result. If 8

significant issues are identified, the license 9

renewal review may be suspended indefinitely or 10 terminated. I'll note that the safety evaluation 11 report is a publicly available report that we will 12 issue documenting the results of our review and the 13 Advisory Committee for Reactor Safeguard meetings are 14 open to the public. They are held at our headquarters 15 in Washington DC. We have now completed NRC's 16 presentation. I'll now turn it over to Mr. Daniel 17 Mussatti.

18 MR. MUSSATTI: Okay. As I mentioned 19 earlier, we didn't have anybody that actually signed 20 up so that they could speak, but we do have somebody 21 that's got a yellow card. Would you step up to the 22 microphone and introduce yourself, please.

23 MR. COUHIG: Thank you. My name is Kevin 24 Couhig. I'm the Parish President of West Feliciana 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 Parish, the parish that the nuclear facility resides 1

in.

2 I want to start out by saying I was in 3

favor of the nuclear station here, and I am in favor 4

of the renewal, but I do want to speak to you tonight 5

about a couple of concerns that I have.

6 In my job, I'm the Chief Executive 7

Officer of the county or parish, and as such I am 8

also the head of Homeland Security, and that means 9

that I have to work with our budget, our sheriff, our 10 first responders with the Entergy facility and so 11 forth to do regular operations of tests and exercise 12 to be prepared in the event of nuclear emergencies.

13 Those don't come for free, and one of the 14 concerns that I want to express to you and to the 15 owners of the nuclear facility is because of their 16 aggressive posture and abating taxes and avoiding 17 taxes in our parish, it's become increasingly more 18 difficult for us to afford to perform the necessary 19 tasks that we are called upon to perform in terms of 20 being -- providing those kinds of exercises and 21 services.

22 And I would like to see something 23 addressed during this process of renewal, which 24 again, I'm in favor of, to address the fact that 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 although the facility continues to operate safely, it 1

is an aging facility. In the environment that we're 2

in today there are two substantive differences 3

between the environment when the facility was first 4

permitted. One, nuclear waste remains in our county 5

or parish for the rest of time as far as we can tell.

6 We'd like to know what the financial plan is for that 7

nuclear waste.

8 Someone is going to be in my job 400 years 9

from now, and that nuclear waste will still be 10 radioactive 400 years from now. I'd like to know 11 what the plans are in terms of post decommissioning, 12 whether the renewal goes forward or not, how and who 13 is going to be responsible for that because the 14 community was promised by both regulators and the 15 company that the waste would be transmitted out of 16 our community to a central site in Nevada, and that's 17 not occurred. So we'd like to know what's the plan?

18 The second thing is as I mentioned it's 19 becoming increasingly difficult for us to afford --

20 we're a small rural parish -- to afford to support 21 the public safety needs that are generated by the 22 nuclear facility in our community, and we would like 23 to know what the plan is there because on the arc 24 that we're on now, sometime during the 20 year 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 extension that the company is asking for, they will 1

no longer pay any property tax. So those are the two 2

things that we would ask that they address or that 3

the regulators make part of the regulatory hearing.

4 I think that's it. Thank you.

5 MR. MUSSATTI: Thank you very much. Is 6

there anybody else that would like to speak? Well, 7

I would like to identify Bill Maguire in the audience 8

here. He's the River Bend site VP, and he has 9

graciously volunteered to answer any questions after 10 we get done here if somebody has a question that they 11 don't want to bring up in front of this forum but 12 would like to ask.

13 Nobody's got the urge to fulfill their 14 rights to free speech? Does this mean that we're 15 approaching the end of this meeting? Okay. Well, I 16 would like to thank you all for coming tonight. Yes?

17 Yes. Thank you for calling my attention to the slide 18 here. I would like to thank you all for coming here 19 tonight. Before we go, I'd like to remind everyone 20 who hasn't signed in to please, if you would sign in 21 outside there and gather any of the material you want.

22 Last but not least we're always looking 23 for important information to give us feedback on how 24 we do in these sorts of meetings, and there are 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 feedback forms that are out there for you. You can 1

take one with you. You can sign it now and fill it 2

out now, or you can take it with you and take it home.

3 It's a two-sided form and if you fold it properly, 4

it's got a self-addressed stamped envelope on the 5

outside of it so you don't have to even put a stamp 6

on it. And if you don't want to even do that, you 7

can go online to the NRC webpage, www.NRC.gov, upper 8

right-hand corner there's a search box. Type in NRC 9

form 659 and a little screen will pop up that tells 10 you all of the places you can find that, and you'd be 11 able to find a blank form right there that you can 12 fill out and send back in.

13 By mail, you can send in comments to the 14 Chief, Rules, Announcements, and Directives Branch, 15 Division of Administrative Services. All those fancy 16 letters leads to the big building shaped like a 17 triangle not the bigger building that's shaped like 18 a

square, and that's the Nuclear Regulatory 19 Commission's office in Washington DC. Our Internet 20 address for public comment is www.regulations.gov, 21 and you have to type in that docket ID that's down 22 there on it. Your handouts have got this on there 23 as slide number 17.

24 So with that housekeeping, I think that 25

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(202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-3701 (202) 234-4433 we're pretty much down with what we need to do, and 1

I think this meeting is officially adjourned.

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record at 7:28 p.m.)

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