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| issue date = 03/13/2018
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| title = Meeting Summary of Risc Public Meeting Held on February 20, 2018
| title = Meeting Summary of RISC Public Meeting Held on February 20, 2018
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{{#Wiki_filter:March 13, 2018 MEMORANDUM TO:           Sunil Weerakkody, Chief PRA Operations and Human Factors Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation FROM:                     Matthew Leech, Reliability and Risk Analyst /RA by C. Spore for/
 
PRA Operations and Human Factors Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation
MEMORANDUM TO: Sunil Weerakkody, Chief PRA Operations and Human Factors Branch  
 
Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation FROM: Matthew Leech, Reliability and Risk Analyst /RA by C. Spore for
PRA Operations and Human Factors Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation  


==SUBJECT:==
==SUBJECT:==


==SUMMARY==
==SUMMARY==
OF February 20, 2018 PUBLIC MEETING TO CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION AND INDUSTRY RISK-INFORMED STEERING COMMITTEES  
OF February 20, 2018 PUBLIC MEETING TO CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION AND INDUSTRY RISK-INFORMED STEERING COMMITTEES On February 20, 2018, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff held a Category 2 public meeting to continue discussions between the NRC and industry Risk-Informed Steering Committees (RISCs). The meeting notice and presentations used to facilitate discussion are available in the Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS), Accession Number ML18053A105. The list of meeting participants is provided as an enclosure to this document. Staff did not receive any public meeting feedback forms as a result of this meeting.
 
Both the NRC and Industry RISCs discussed their priorities list and expressed their desire to include follow-up action items in the priorities lists. During these discussions staff provided status updates on 50.69 License Amendment Request (LAR) reviews, New PRA Methods, Fire PRA Realism, Realism in the Reactor Oversight Process, Crediting Flex in Risk-Informed Decision Making, Finding and Observation Closure Process, Tornado Missile Risk Evaluator, and NRC reviews of ASME/ANS Code Case and NEI 12-13 documents. The Industry RISC provided the NRC with a new Industry Milestone Chart, and also discussed margins and their relationship to Integrated Risk-informed Decision Making.
On February 20, 2018, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff held a Category 2 public meeting to continue discussions between the NRC and industry Risk-Informed Steering Committees (RISCs). The meeting notice and presentations used to facilitate discussion are available in the Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS), Accession Number ML18053A105. The list of meeting participants is provided as an enclosure to this document. Staff did not receive any public meeting feedback forms as a result of this meeting.  
Progress on NRC and Industry Priorities List Some key observations noted by either the NRC RISC members or the industry RISC members are provided below:
 
CONTACT: Matthew Leech, NRR/DRA (301) 415-8312
Both the NRC and Industry RISCs discussed their priorities list and expressed their desire to include follow-up action items in the priorities lists. During these discussions staff provided status updates on 50.69 License Amendment Request (LAR) reviews, New PRA Methods, Fire PRA Realism, Realism in the Reactor Oversight Process, Crediting Flex in Risk-Informed Decision Making, Finding and Observation Closure Process, Tornado Missile Risk Evaluator, and NRC reviews of ASME/ANS Code Case and NEI 12-13 documents. The Industry RISC provided the NRC with a new Industry Milest one Chart, and also discussed margins and their relationship to Integrated Risk-informed Decision Making.
Progress on NRC and Industry Priorities List Some key observations noted by either the NRC RISC members or the industry RISC members  
 
are provided below:
 
CONTACT: Matthew Leech, NRR/DRA (301) 415-8312 S. Weerakkody 2 10CFR 50.69 NRC staff reinforced the potential adverse impacts on LAR review schedule caused by deviations from established precedents. In response, Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) indicated the industry intent to remove Class 1 piping from the scope of 10CFR 50.69
 
LARs. NRC expressed intent to provide a status of the of the ongoing LAR reviews. That status update is included as an attachment to this meeting summary. 
 
New Methods Previously, on January 24, 2018, the NRC held a public meeting to discuss control of new probabilistic risk assessment (PRA) methods following an NRC approval of a risk-informed completion time LAR (or other licensee-controlled program). During the
 
meeting, the NRC staff presented slides that provided both a background of why a change control process was needed and the spectrum of options under consideration to implement such a process. NEI staff has indicated that they do not view any process where prior NRC approval is needed as desirable. The NRC staff has identified a number of significant issues that would need to be addressed prior to allowing licensees to use a peer review process to approve new methods. NRC staff provided NEI with questions and details that would need to be addressed in order to pursue industry's latest proposed approach. At the Public RISC meeting on February 20 th , NEI stated that they planned to address NRC questions and provide an enhanced proposal at the end of April. NRC management said that they w ould consider re-convening RISC Working Group 1 to review the NEI proposal once it is submitted.
 
Crediting FLEX NRC discussed their views, that the staff has been making significant progress in many aspects of crediting FLEX in regulatory applications, but wanted to discuss in detail two challenge areas that the staff has been emphasizing. The first challenge area that was stressed was the importance of gaining access to the industry's FLEX operational


experience data. The second challenge area was the ongoing work to develop a Human Reliability Analysis (HRA) method that would be able to handle the unique aspects of FLEX decisions and actions. Industry RISC representatives discussed the ongoing challenges they have faced with the FLEX operational experience data and discussed how the original intent of the data was for preventive maintenance purposes and how this has created some challenges in using it to develop failure probabilities. The industry RISC discussed the current status of the NUMARC 93-01 revision and said they were waiting for NRC staff to provide feedback on industry provided language. The NRC RISC committed to follow up with the responsible NRC staff. After the public RISC meeting, it was determined that the NRC staff had already provided feedback on the industry submitted language and that NEI had committed to providing further language for NRC consideration.
S. Weerakkody                                  2 10CFR 50.69 NRC staff reinforced the potential adverse impacts on LAR review schedule caused by deviations from established precedents. In response, Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) indicated the industry intent to remove Class 1 piping from the scope of 10CFR 50.69 LARs. NRC expressed intent to provide a status of the of the ongoing LAR reviews.
Facts and Observations Closure Process NRC stated that we plan to continue to conduct observations and audits of the Independent Assessment (IA) facts and observations (F&O) Closure Process to establish confidence that there is industry-wide understanding and effective implementation of the process. Once this confidence is established, NRC staff will continue with audits and observations at a reduced periodicity to maintain confidence and provide continued monitoring and oversight. NRC requested a list of plants with upcoming IA F&O Closure Teams scheduled for NRC to select for observation. NEI discussed scheduling a public meeting to develop an effective protocol for discussing S. Weerakkody 3 observations and disseminating this info rmation such that industry and NRC can maintain openness on these closure issues. 
That status update is included as an attachment to this meeting summary.
 
New Methods Previously, on January 24, 2018, the NRC held a public meeting to discuss control of new probabilistic risk assessment (PRA) methods following an NRC approval of a risk-informed completion time LAR (or other licensee-controlled program). During the meeting, the NRC staff presented slides that provided both a background of why a change control process was needed and the spectrum of options under consideration to implement such a process. NEI staff has indicated that they do not view any process where prior NRC approval is needed as desirable. The NRC staff has identified a number of significant issues that would need to be addressed prior to allowing licensees to use a peer review process to approve new methods. NRC staff provided NEI with questions and details that would need to be addressed in order to pursue industrys latest proposed approach. At the Public RISC meeting on February 20th, NEI stated that they planned to address NRC questions and provide an enhanced proposal at the end of April. NRC management said that they would consider re-convening RISC Working Group 1 to review the NEI proposal once it is submitted.
Industry Fire Probabilistic Risk Assessment Realism The NRC discussed that a recent public meeting on Fire PRA held in mid-February reached initial resolution on two frequently asked questions (FAQs). The NRC and industry continue to work towards resolution of existing draft fire PRA FAQs and continue discussion on potential new FAQs. 
Crediting FLEX NRC discussed their views, that the staff has been making significant progress in many aspects of crediting FLEX in regulatory applications, but wanted to discuss in detail two challenge areas that the staff has been emphasizing. The first challenge area that was stressed was the importance of gaining access to the industry's FLEX operational experience data. The second challenge area was the ongoing work to develop a Human Reliability Analysis (HRA) method that would be able to handle the unique aspects of FLEX decisions and actions. Industry RISC representatives discussed the ongoing challenges they have faced with the FLEX operational experience data and discussed how the original intent of the data was for preventive maintenance purposes and how this has created some challenges in using it to develop failure probabilities. The industry RISC discussed the current status of the NUMARC 93-01 revision and said they were waiting for NRC staff to provide feedback on industry provided language. The NRC RISC committed to follow up with the responsible NRC staff. After the public RISC meeting, it was determined that the NRC staff had already provided feedback on the industry submitted language and that NEI had committed to providing further language for NRC consideration.
 
Facts and Observations Closure Process NRC stated that we plan to continue to conduct observations and audits of the Independent Assessment (IA) facts and observations (F&O) Closure Process to establish confidence that there is industry-wide understanding and effective implementation of the process. Once this confidence is established, NRC staff will continue with audits and observations at a reduced periodicity to maintain confidence and provide continued monitoring and oversight. NRC requested a list of plants with upcoming IA F&O Closure Teams scheduled for NRC to select for observation. NEI discussed scheduling a public meeting to develop an effective protocol for discussing
The Industry RISC told the NRC that they see positives from recent meetings with the NRC's Office of Research and Electric Power Research Institute. 
 
Realism in Reactor Oversight Process (ROP) The NRC staff gave a status that internal stakeholders have received and are reviewing the White Paper that NEI submitted regarding Common Cause Failure (CCF). The goal with CCF is to explore proposed qualitative methods for possible inclusion to the Risk Assessment Standardization Project guidance noting that there are both conservatisms and non-conservatisms in our current process. Industry RISC stated that they are aligned on time frame. The industry RISC mentioned that after CCF, the industry would like to pursue discussions on the issue of the HRA floor next and eventually how Initiating Events are treated in ROP event assessments vs condition assessments.
 
Tornado Missile Risk Evaluator (TMRE) Industry and NRC are in alignment on the timeline industry provided for a TMRE pilot plant review and subsequent endorsement review for NEI 17-02, Revision 2. Industry raised a comment on the number of draft audit questions for one of the pilot plants, and voiced some concern over some calculation questions that appeared to drive re-work of the model. Staff disagreed with the implication of draft audit questions expressing significant model flaws, and believed that pilot plants understood the issues and difference between initial audit questions and resultant formal RAIs. Further, an industry stakeholder asked about the status of draft safety evaluation (SE) completion in advance of generation of audit questions, and the staff answered that in accordance with office instructions, draft SEs were written. 
 
A licensee inquired about issuance of a blanket extension to Enforcement Guidance Memorandum (EGM) 15-002, due to the emerging EGM deadline and progress with TMRE approval. Staff replied that consistent with early discussion in prior public meetings, revisions made accordingly to the EGM and Division of Safety Systems ISG-2016-01, site specific extension requests were necessary. NEI staff present also acknowledged that topic as jointly agreed upon with industry.


S. Weerakkody                                  3 observations and disseminating this information such that industry and NRC can maintain openness on these closure issues.
Industry Fire Probabilistic Risk Assessment Realism The NRC discussed that a recent public meeting on Fire PRA held in mid-February reached initial resolution on two frequently asked questions (FAQs). The NRC and industry continue to work towards resolution of existing draft fire PRA FAQs and continue discussion on potential new FAQs.
The Industry RISC told the NRC that they see positives from recent meetings with the NRCs Office of Research and Electric Power Research Institute.
Realism in Reactor Oversight Process (ROP)
The NRC staff gave a status that internal stakeholders have received and are reviewing the White Paper that NEI submitted regarding Common Cause Failure (CCF). The goal with CCF is to explore proposed qualitative methods for possible inclusion to the Risk Assessment Standardization Project guidance noting that there are both conservatisms and non-conservatisms in our current process. Industry RISC stated that they are aligned on time frame. The industry RISC mentioned that after CCF, the industry would like to pursue discussions on the issue of the HRA floor next and eventually how Initiating Events are treated in ROP event assessments vs condition assessments.
Tornado Missile Risk Evaluator (TMRE)
Industry and NRC are in alignment on the timeline industry provided for a TMRE pilot plant review and subsequent endorsement review for NEI 17-02, Revision 2. Industry raised a comment on the number of draft audit questions for one of the pilot plants, and voiced some concern over some calculation questions that appeared to drive re-work of the model. Staff disagreed with the implication of draft audit questions expressing significant model flaws, and believed that pilot plants understood the issues and difference between initial audit questions and resultant formal RAIs. Further, an industry stakeholder asked about the status of draft safety evaluation (SE) completion in advance of generation of audit questions, and the staff answered that in accordance with office instructions, draft SEs were written.
A licensee inquired about issuance of a blanket extension to Enforcement Guidance Memorandum (EGM) 15-002, due to the emerging EGM deadline and progress with TMRE approval. Staff replied that consistent with early discussion in prior public meetings, revisions made accordingly to the EGM and Division of Safety Systems ISG-2016-01, site specific extension requests were necessary. NEI staff present also acknowledged that topic as jointly agreed upon with industry.
NRC staff brought up that one of the pilot plants was owned by a utility that had withdrawn from NEI, and the staff will be alert to any issues that may be caused from loss of interaction among the pilot plants. There was no specific further discussion from industry on this topic.
NRC staff brought up that one of the pilot plants was owned by a utility that had withdrawn from NEI, and the staff will be alert to any issues that may be caused from loss of interaction among the pilot plants. There was no specific further discussion from industry on this topic.
S. Weerakkody 4
ASME/ANS Code Case and NEI 12-13 The NRC provided an update that they will review and endorse (as appropriate) part 5 of the new edition of the ASME/ANS PRA standard. Also the NRC will review and endorse NEI 17-07 (which will replace NEI 12-13) in the next revision to Regulatory Guide 1.200.


S. Weerakkody                                  4 ASME/ANS Code Case and NEI 12-13 The NRC provided an update that they will review and endorse (as appropriate) part 5 of the new edition of the ASME/ANS PRA standard. Also the NRC will review and endorse NEI 17-07 (which will replace NEI 12-13) in the next revision to Regulatory Guide 1.200.
Integrated Risk-Informed Decision Making The Industry RISC mentioned that they intend to develop a white paper related to margin to the Quantitative Health Objectives. They showed on their milestone chart that a white paper is scheduled to be complete by the beginning of May, and intend to follow up with a public meeting in May or June. The NRC RISC mentioned that we would review a white paper when we receive it.
Integrated Risk-Informed Decision Making The Industry RISC mentioned that they intend to develop a white paper related to margin to the Quantitative Health Objectives. They showed on their milestone chart that a white paper is scheduled to be complete by the beginning of May, and intend to follow up with a public meeting in May or June. The NRC RISC mentioned that we would review a white paper when we receive it.
Closing Remarks The public was given an opportunity to speak and ask questions, however, nobody from the public chose to do so. The NRC RISC chair t hen thanked the participants for their attendance and closed the meeting.  
Closing Remarks The public was given an opportunity to speak and ask questions, however, nobody from the public chose to do so. The NRC RISC chair then thanked the participants for their attendance and closed the meeting.


==Enclosures:==
==Enclosures:==
: 1. List of Meeting Attendees
: 1. List of Meeting Attendees
: 2. Status of 10 CFR 50.69 LAR Reviews  
: 2. Status of 10 CFR 50.69 LAR Reviews
 
ML18072A301 OFFICE            DRA:APHB            APHB NAME              MLeech              SWeerakkody (Candace Spore for)
DATE              03/13/2018          03/13/2018 LIST OF MEETING ATTENDEES Name                                        Organization Candace Spore                              NRC Matt Leech                                  NRC Jeff Stone                                  Exelon Greg Krueger                                NEI Mary Drouin                                NRC Robert Rishel                              Duke Energy Jeff Circle                                NRC Fernando Ferrante                          EPRI Angela Wu                                  NRC Jana Bergman                                Curtiss-Wright Daniel Frumkin                              NRC Brian Metzger                              NRC Michelle Hayes                              NRC Jim Anderson                                NRC Doug True                                  Jensen Hughes Joe Pollock                                NEI Scot Greenlee                              Exelon Steve Vaughn                                NEI Mihaela Biro                                NRC Greg Casto                                  NRC Russell Felts                              NRC Paul Amico                                  Jensen Hughes Chris Nolan                                Duke Energy Brian Holian                                NRC Stephen Geier                              NEI Mark Thaggard                              NRC Mike Franovich                              NRC Bob Bement                                  Arizona Public Service JS Hyslop                                  NRC Victoria Anderson                          NEI Danny Bost                                  Southern Company Jeff Mitman                                NRC Ray Lorson                                  NRC Stacey Rosenberg                            NRC Gregory Suber                              NRC Jordan Tyman                                PG&E Tina Taylor                                EPRI Matt Humberstone                            NRC Stephen Dinsmore                            NRC Donnie Harrison                            NRC Ed Miller                                  NRC Tommy Nazario                                NRC Roy Linthicum*                              PWROG Don Helton*                                  NRC Anders Gilbertson*                          NRC John Hanna*                                  NRC John Conley*                                Certrec
*Participated by teleconference Enclosure 1


ML18072A301 OFFICE DRA:APHB APHB NAME MLeech (Candace Spore for)
Status of 10 CFR 50.69 LAR Reviews Risk-Informed Categorization of SSCs Effort                               Issuance Site              Est.                     Age      Target                %
SWeerakkody DATE 03/13/2018 03/13/2018 Enclosure 1 LIST OF MEETING ATTENDEES Name Organization Candace S p ore NRCMatt Leech NRC Jeff Stone Exelon Greg Krueger NEI Mary Drouin NRC Robert Rishel Duke Energy Jeff Circle NRC Fernando Ferrante EPRI Angela Wu NRC Jana Bergman Curtiss-Wright Daniel Frumkin NRC Brian Metzger NRC Michelle Hayes NRC Jim Anderson NRC Doug True Jensen Hughes Joe Pollock NEI Scot Greenlee  Exelon Steve Vaughn NEI Mihaela Biro NRC Greg Casto  NRC Russell Felts NRC Paul Amico Jensen Hughes Chris Nolan Duke Energy Brian Holian NRC Stephen Geier NEI Mark Thaggard NRC Mike Franovich NRC Bob Bement Arizona Public Service JS Hyslop NRC Victoria Anderson NEI Danny Bost Southern Company Jeff Mitman NRC Ray Lorson NRC Stacey Rosenberg NRC Gregory Suber NRC Jordan Tyman PG&E Tina Taylor EPRI Matt Humberstone NRC Stephen Dinsmore NRC Donnie Harrison NRC Ed Miller NRC  Tommy Nazario NRC  Roy Linthicum* PWROG  Don Helton* NRC  Anders Gilbertson* NRC  John Hanna* NRC  John Conley* Certrec
                                                % Used Hours9                  (months)      Date         Complete10 St Lucie 1,21              494           15%         1     Sep 2018               0%
*Participated by teleconference Status of 10 CFR 50.69 LAR Reviews "Risk-Informed Categorization of SSCs" Enclosure 2 Site  Effort Age (months)Issuance Est. Hours 9 % Used Target Date % Complete 10 St Lucie 1,2 1 494 15% 1 Sep 2018 0%
Turkey Point 3,41          480           2%         1     Oct 2018               0%
Turkey Point 3,4 1 480 2% 1 Oct 2018 0%
Vogtle 1,22                650         117%         6       Jul 2018             60%
Vogtle 1,2 2 650 117% 6 Jul 2018 60%
Limerick 1,23              670           74%         5     Jun 2018             60%
Limerick 1,2 3 670 74% 5 Jun 2018 60%
Palo Verde 1,2,34          875           79%         5     Aug 2018             25%
Palo Verde 1,2,3 4 875 79% 5 Aug 2018 25% Byron / Braidwood 5 610 21% 4 Sep 2018 25% Duane Arnold 650 13% 4 Sep 2018 25%
Byron / Braidwood5          610           21%         4     Sep 2018             25%
Peach Bottom 2,3 3 694 60% 3 Aug 2018 25%
Duane Arnold               650           13%         4     Sep 2018             25%
Point Beach 3, 6 850 28% 3 Aug 2018 25% Brunswick 1,2 7 1350 5% 1 Oct 2018 10%
Peach Bottom 2,33          694           60%         3     Aug 2018             25%
Harris 8  0% 0 Feb 2019 0%
Point Beach3, 6             850           28%         3     Aug 2018             25%
1 Application has been withdrawn by licensee.
Brunswick 1,27            1350           5%         1     Oct 2018             10%
2 Vogtle is a complex review since it's the first LAR that includes a seismic PRA.
Harris8                                    0%         0     Feb 2019               0%
1 Application has been withdrawn by licensee.
2 Vogtle is a complex review since its the first LAR that includes a seismic PRA.
3 LAR was accepted for review following a supplement.
3 LAR was accepted for review following a supplement.
4 Palo Verde LAR includes a seismic PRA.
4 Palo Verde LAR includes a seismic PRA.
5 Combined review of Byron & Braidwood.
5 Combined review of Byron & Braidwood.
6 Point Beach was originally submitted with a High Winds PRA (withdrawn), which led to a higher estimate of hours.
6 Point Beach was originally submitted with a High Winds PRA (withdrawn),
which led to a higher estimate of hours.
7 Brunswick includes new high winds and flooding PRAs.
7 Brunswick includes new high winds and flooding PRAs.
8 Harris is currently undergoing acceptance review.
8 Harris is currently undergoing acceptance review.
9 The estimated hours were calculated during the acceptance review.
9 The estimated hours were calculated during the acceptance review.
10 Completion percentage is based on the milestones in the                             key to the right as opposed to a precise estimate of review progress.
10 Completion percentage is based on the milestones in the
 
                                                                              % Complete Key key to the right as opposed to a precise estimate of             10% - Acceptance review complete review progress.                                                25% - Biweekly Notice Issued 50% - All RAIs Issued to Licensee 60% - All RAIs Responses Received 80% - ALL SEs from Technical Division Enclosure 2}}
  % Complete Key 10% - Acceptance review complete 25% - Biweekly Notice Issued 50% - All RAIs Issued to Licensee 60% - All RAIs Responses Received 80% - ALL SEs from Technical Division}}

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Meeting Summary of RISC Public Meeting Held on February 20, 2018
ML18072A301
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Issue date: 03/13/2018
From: Matthew Leech
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March 13, 2018 MEMORANDUM TO: Sunil Weerakkody, Chief PRA Operations and Human Factors Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation FROM: Matthew Leech, Reliability and Risk Analyst /RA by C. Spore for/

PRA Operations and Human Factors Branch Division of Risk Assessment Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation

SUBJECT:

SUMMARY

OF February 20, 2018 PUBLIC MEETING TO CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION AND INDUSTRY RISK-INFORMED STEERING COMMITTEES On February 20, 2018, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) staff held a Category 2 public meeting to continue discussions between the NRC and industry Risk-Informed Steering Committees (RISCs). The meeting notice and presentations used to facilitate discussion are available in the Agencywide Documents Access and Management System (ADAMS), Accession Number ML18053A105. The list of meeting participants is provided as an enclosure to this document. Staff did not receive any public meeting feedback forms as a result of this meeting.

Both the NRC and Industry RISCs discussed their priorities list and expressed their desire to include follow-up action items in the priorities lists. During these discussions staff provided status updates on 50.69 License Amendment Request (LAR) reviews, New PRA Methods, Fire PRA Realism, Realism in the Reactor Oversight Process, Crediting Flex in Risk-Informed Decision Making, Finding and Observation Closure Process, Tornado Missile Risk Evaluator, and NRC reviews of ASME/ANS Code Case and NEI 12-13 documents. The Industry RISC provided the NRC with a new Industry Milestone Chart, and also discussed margins and their relationship to Integrated Risk-informed Decision Making.

Progress on NRC and Industry Priorities List Some key observations noted by either the NRC RISC members or the industry RISC members are provided below:

CONTACT: Matthew Leech, NRR/DRA (301) 415-8312

S. Weerakkody 2 10CFR 50.69 NRC staff reinforced the potential adverse impacts on LAR review schedule caused by deviations from established precedents. In response, Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) indicated the industry intent to remove Class 1 piping from the scope of 10CFR 50.69 LARs. NRC expressed intent to provide a status of the of the ongoing LAR reviews.

That status update is included as an attachment to this meeting summary.

New Methods Previously, on January 24, 2018, the NRC held a public meeting to discuss control of new probabilistic risk assessment (PRA) methods following an NRC approval of a risk-informed completion time LAR (or other licensee-controlled program). During the meeting, the NRC staff presented slides that provided both a background of why a change control process was needed and the spectrum of options under consideration to implement such a process. NEI staff has indicated that they do not view any process where prior NRC approval is needed as desirable. The NRC staff has identified a number of significant issues that would need to be addressed prior to allowing licensees to use a peer review process to approve new methods. NRC staff provided NEI with questions and details that would need to be addressed in order to pursue industrys latest proposed approach. At the Public RISC meeting on February 20th, NEI stated that they planned to address NRC questions and provide an enhanced proposal at the end of April. NRC management said that they would consider re-convening RISC Working Group 1 to review the NEI proposal once it is submitted.

Crediting FLEX NRC discussed their views, that the staff has been making significant progress in many aspects of crediting FLEX in regulatory applications, but wanted to discuss in detail two challenge areas that the staff has been emphasizing. The first challenge area that was stressed was the importance of gaining access to the industry's FLEX operational experience data. The second challenge area was the ongoing work to develop a Human Reliability Analysis (HRA) method that would be able to handle the unique aspects of FLEX decisions and actions. Industry RISC representatives discussed the ongoing challenges they have faced with the FLEX operational experience data and discussed how the original intent of the data was for preventive maintenance purposes and how this has created some challenges in using it to develop failure probabilities. The industry RISC discussed the current status of the NUMARC 93-01 revision and said they were waiting for NRC staff to provide feedback on industry provided language. The NRC RISC committed to follow up with the responsible NRC staff. After the public RISC meeting, it was determined that the NRC staff had already provided feedback on the industry submitted language and that NEI had committed to providing further language for NRC consideration.

Facts and Observations Closure Process NRC stated that we plan to continue to conduct observations and audits of the Independent Assessment (IA) facts and observations (F&O) Closure Process to establish confidence that there is industry-wide understanding and effective implementation of the process. Once this confidence is established, NRC staff will continue with audits and observations at a reduced periodicity to maintain confidence and provide continued monitoring and oversight. NRC requested a list of plants with upcoming IA F&O Closure Teams scheduled for NRC to select for observation. NEI discussed scheduling a public meeting to develop an effective protocol for discussing

S. Weerakkody 3 observations and disseminating this information such that industry and NRC can maintain openness on these closure issues.

Industry Fire Probabilistic Risk Assessment Realism The NRC discussed that a recent public meeting on Fire PRA held in mid-February reached initial resolution on two frequently asked questions (FAQs). The NRC and industry continue to work towards resolution of existing draft fire PRA FAQs and continue discussion on potential new FAQs.

The Industry RISC told the NRC that they see positives from recent meetings with the NRCs Office of Research and Electric Power Research Institute.

Realism in Reactor Oversight Process (ROP)

The NRC staff gave a status that internal stakeholders have received and are reviewing the White Paper that NEI submitted regarding Common Cause Failure (CCF). The goal with CCF is to explore proposed qualitative methods for possible inclusion to the Risk Assessment Standardization Project guidance noting that there are both conservatisms and non-conservatisms in our current process. Industry RISC stated that they are aligned on time frame. The industry RISC mentioned that after CCF, the industry would like to pursue discussions on the issue of the HRA floor next and eventually how Initiating Events are treated in ROP event assessments vs condition assessments.

Tornado Missile Risk Evaluator (TMRE)

Industry and NRC are in alignment on the timeline industry provided for a TMRE pilot plant review and subsequent endorsement review for NEI 17-02, Revision 2. Industry raised a comment on the number of draft audit questions for one of the pilot plants, and voiced some concern over some calculation questions that appeared to drive re-work of the model. Staff disagreed with the implication of draft audit questions expressing significant model flaws, and believed that pilot plants understood the issues and difference between initial audit questions and resultant formal RAIs. Further, an industry stakeholder asked about the status of draft safety evaluation (SE) completion in advance of generation of audit questions, and the staff answered that in accordance with office instructions, draft SEs were written.

A licensee inquired about issuance of a blanket extension to Enforcement Guidance Memorandum (EGM) 15-002, due to the emerging EGM deadline and progress with TMRE approval. Staff replied that consistent with early discussion in prior public meetings, revisions made accordingly to the EGM and Division of Safety Systems ISG-2016-01, site specific extension requests were necessary. NEI staff present also acknowledged that topic as jointly agreed upon with industry.

NRC staff brought up that one of the pilot plants was owned by a utility that had withdrawn from NEI, and the staff will be alert to any issues that may be caused from loss of interaction among the pilot plants. There was no specific further discussion from industry on this topic.

S. Weerakkody 4 ASME/ANS Code Case and NEI 12-13 The NRC provided an update that they will review and endorse (as appropriate) part 5 of the new edition of the ASME/ANS PRA standard. Also the NRC will review and endorse NEI 17-07 (which will replace NEI 12-13) in the next revision to Regulatory Guide 1.200.

Integrated Risk-Informed Decision Making The Industry RISC mentioned that they intend to develop a white paper related to margin to the Quantitative Health Objectives. They showed on their milestone chart that a white paper is scheduled to be complete by the beginning of May, and intend to follow up with a public meeting in May or June. The NRC RISC mentioned that we would review a white paper when we receive it.

Closing Remarks The public was given an opportunity to speak and ask questions, however, nobody from the public chose to do so. The NRC RISC chair then thanked the participants for their attendance and closed the meeting.

Enclosures:

1. List of Meeting Attendees
2. Status of 10 CFR 50.69 LAR Reviews

ML18072A301 OFFICE DRA:APHB APHB NAME MLeech SWeerakkody (Candace Spore for)

DATE 03/13/2018 03/13/2018 LIST OF MEETING ATTENDEES Name Organization Candace Spore NRC Matt Leech NRC Jeff Stone Exelon Greg Krueger NEI Mary Drouin NRC Robert Rishel Duke Energy Jeff Circle NRC Fernando Ferrante EPRI Angela Wu NRC Jana Bergman Curtiss-Wright Daniel Frumkin NRC Brian Metzger NRC Michelle Hayes NRC Jim Anderson NRC Doug True Jensen Hughes Joe Pollock NEI Scot Greenlee Exelon Steve Vaughn NEI Mihaela Biro NRC Greg Casto NRC Russell Felts NRC Paul Amico Jensen Hughes Chris Nolan Duke Energy Brian Holian NRC Stephen Geier NEI Mark Thaggard NRC Mike Franovich NRC Bob Bement Arizona Public Service JS Hyslop NRC Victoria Anderson NEI Danny Bost Southern Company Jeff Mitman NRC Ray Lorson NRC Stacey Rosenberg NRC Gregory Suber NRC Jordan Tyman PG&E Tina Taylor EPRI Matt Humberstone NRC Stephen Dinsmore NRC Donnie Harrison NRC Ed Miller NRC Tommy Nazario NRC Roy Linthicum* PWROG Don Helton* NRC Anders Gilbertson* NRC John Hanna* NRC John Conley* Certrec

  • Participated by teleconference Enclosure 1

Status of 10 CFR 50.69 LAR Reviews Risk-Informed Categorization of SSCs Effort Issuance Site Est. Age Target  %

% Used Hours9 (months) Date Complete10 St Lucie 1,21 494 15% 1 Sep 2018 0%

Turkey Point 3,41 480 2% 1 Oct 2018 0%

Vogtle 1,22 650 117% 6 Jul 2018 60%

Limerick 1,23 670 74% 5 Jun 2018 60%

Palo Verde 1,2,34 875 79% 5 Aug 2018 25%

Byron / Braidwood5 610 21% 4 Sep 2018 25%

Duane Arnold 650 13% 4 Sep 2018 25%

Peach Bottom 2,33 694 60% 3 Aug 2018 25%

Point Beach3, 6 850 28% 3 Aug 2018 25%

Brunswick 1,27 1350 5% 1 Oct 2018 10%

Harris8 0% 0 Feb 2019 0%

1 Application has been withdrawn by licensee.

2 Vogtle is a complex review since its the first LAR that includes a seismic PRA.

3 LAR was accepted for review following a supplement.

4 Palo Verde LAR includes a seismic PRA.

5 Combined review of Byron & Braidwood.

6 Point Beach was originally submitted with a High Winds PRA (withdrawn),

which led to a higher estimate of hours.

7 Brunswick includes new high winds and flooding PRAs.

8 Harris is currently undergoing acceptance review.

9 The estimated hours were calculated during the acceptance review.

10 Completion percentage is based on the milestones in the

% Complete Key key to the right as opposed to a precise estimate of 10% - Acceptance review complete review progress. 25% - Biweekly Notice Issued 50% - All RAIs Issued to Licensee 60% - All RAIs Responses Received 80% - ALL SEs from Technical Division Enclosure 2