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S. Lee, NSIR, Email Re Drones/Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Reporting Requirements
ML24234A055
Person / Time
Issue date: 06/17/2022
From: Samson Lee
Policy and Oversight Branch, Division of Security Operations
To: David Mcintyre
Office of Public Affairs
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ML24243A070 List:
References
FOIA-2022-000181, NSIR-24-0318, OEDO-24-00217 431UAP00008_redacted
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Per our Teams discussion... I engaged Cindy and she referred me to the email trail below. It looks like these communications occurred while I was on leave a month ago. That's why I wasn't aware.

But even so, the inquiry about UAP was from a UK regulatory agency's manager and Cindy's reply (content) below mainly refers to UAS... (but mentioning that NRC regs do not specifically address neither UAS nor UAP).

sam Samuel S. Lee, Acting Director Division of Security Operations Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission 301-415-0155; T8890; MS T8850 samuel.lee@nrc.gov Want to Recognize Someone in NSIR? Click this link!

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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 4:10 PM To: Heppell-Masys, Kathleen <Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: EI-Jaby, Ali <Ali.EI-Jaby@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Gavrilas, Mirela <Mirela.Gavrilas@nrc.gov>

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RE: Drones/Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reporting requirements Hi Kathleen, Like Canada, the NRC's regulations do not specifically address UAS' (or UAPs). Currently, reporting of suspicious activity is voluntary. Once the final enhanced weapons rule goes into effect, there will be a new section in Chapter 10 of the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) § 73.1215 codifying requirements with a goal of consistent, timely reporting to local law enforcement agencies (LLEAs), the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), and the NRC. Appendix A of the new Regulatory Guide 5.87 "Suspicious Activity Reports Under 10 CFR Part 73", will be published with the final rule and will provide examples and guidance on suspicious activity reporting, including aviation-related activities.

SA-2021-06 is not responsive to UAP data call

Unfortunately, we cannot share the contents of the final RG 5.87 until the rule package is published.

However, the approved regulatory text for§ 73.1215 "Suspicious activity reports", is publicly available (starting on the bottom of page 135) in the enclosure to the Staff's Requirement Memorandum for the Commission Paper "SECY-18-0058." It is attached to this email as a pdf: ML22027A387.

We are also providing our most recent Security Advisory (SA) on these types of events "SA 2021 -06 Updated Voluntary Reporting Guidelines for Suspicious Flyover Activity-UAS".

Please note and acknowledge that SA 2021-06 is marked as an NRC "Official Use Only-Security Related Information SRI)" document. As such, CNSC handling of it is subject to Sections I "Information to be Exchanged",Section II "Excepted Information", and Section Ill "Use of Information and Allocation of Intellectual Property Rights" of the 2017 Memorandum of Understanding between the USN RC and the CNSC for the Exchange of Technical Information and Cooperation in Nuclear Safety Matters.

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I hope this helps in the immediate. Please let us know if you and your staff need additional information.

Regards, Cir'W' Ro.fale.s>-CtJo;el" Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response US Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 287-9500 From: Heppell-Masys, Kathleen <Kathleen.Heppe11-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.c.ca>

Se nt: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:56 PM To: Rosales-Cooper, Cindy <Cindy Rosales-Cooper@nrc GY>

Cc: EI-Jaby, Ali <Ali El-Jaby@cnsc-ccsn C ca>; Gavrilas, Mirela <Mirela Gayrilas@nrc QY>

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[External_Sender] Drones/Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reporting requirements Hi Cindy Thanks for taking my call. I hope we can discuss t he subject of Unident ified Aerial Phenomena {UAP) in a more fulsome manner in a near future.

For now, I would be very grateful if you could inform me on your nuclear security reporting requirements for drones and for UAPs. For example, our reporting requirements are for attempted or actual breaches of security or attempted or actual acts of sabotage, including credible threats made against an NPP. Our reporting requirements are not specific to drones or UAPs per se. It would be useful for us to know how your reporting requirements are expressed regarding t hese events.

As well, could you please tell me if any {UAP) events around Canadian facilities were reported to the U.S. NRC in the

last five yea rs?

Tha nk you, Kindest regards, Kathleen Kath leen Heppell-Masys, Director General, Directorate of Security and Safeguards Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission/ Government of Canada kathleen.heppell-masys@cosc-ccsn.gc.ca / 613-297-5813 Directrice genera le, Direction de la securite et des garanties Commission canadienne de sOrete nucleaire / Gouvernement du Canada kathleen.heppell-masys@cosc-ccsn.gc.ca / 613-297-5813

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Heppell-Masys, Kathleen Sent:

Mon, 20 Jun 2022 22:28:56 +0000 To:

Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN)

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McIntyre, Dave;Burnell, Scott;Donnelly, Lisa;Gratton, Wayne;Perron, Heloise

[External_Sender) Re: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE I don't have further information to add Thanks Kathleen Kathleen Heppell-Masys Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:32 PM, Media relati.ons / Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca> wrote:

Hi Dave, Daniel has since reached out to us. I've confirmed receipt.

Note that this statement from Kathleen's letter is the most current and accurate status, even though not new information for Daniel:

  • We have also approached our United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (US NRC) colleagues regarding t he nature of t heir nuclear security requirements for drones and UAPs and potentially evolving requirements. We will discuss their approach further as it evolves. For now, existing nuclear security requirements in both countries are well-aligned.

I recommend that we reiterate, the above.

We can connect as planned tomorrow. I'm not available from 1-4 pm EST but free almost all morning.

Thanks, KIM From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Sent: June 17, 2022 3:44 PM

To: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Donnelly, Lisa <Lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Gratton, Wayne <wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-Masys, Kathleen

<Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Perron, Heloise <heloise.perron@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

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RE: RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL-USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERN E - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Hi Kim - I just sent the attached response to Mr. Otis. In it, you'll see his original questions to us. Since he's already reported the discussions, this will give us a bit of time to coordinate before giving him more.

Thanks for your help! I'm sure we'll be in touch next week. Enjoy the weekend!

Dave David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

From: Media relations / Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 2:59 PM To: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>; Media relations / Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Donnelly, Lisa <Lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Gratton, Wayne <wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-Masys, Kathleen <Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Perron, Heloise

<heloise.perron@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

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[External_Sender) RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Ok, I'm inclined to think they know each other for certain!

Not sure what we can do today but I can confirm it was Kathleen that met with USNRC. It would be best for me to liaise with her - and then we should try to connect on Tuesday when you're back in the office.

If anything comes together sooner than that, I will send it your way.

KIM From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Sent: June 17, 2022 2:51 PM To: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmed ias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Gerrish, Meghan

<meghan.gerrish@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Donnelly, Lisa <Lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Gratton, Wayne <wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-Masys, Kathleen <Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

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RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL-USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Thanks, Kim and Meghan!

I just learned from someone in our security office that indeed this subject came up in recent talks with your folks.

Dustin Slaughter is a frequent Freedom of Information Act requester. Most of his work, I believe, has been on drones over our NPPs, but he now seems interested in flying saucers. He may be working with Mr. Otis, or perhaps in competition with him.

Anything you can send today would be appreciated. After that, we have a holiday on Monday.

And my apologies - my boss had forwarded me an email several days ago asking me to reach out to your folks on this subject. Lisa Donnelly and Wayne Gratton were on the email, as well as Kathleen Heppell-Masys in your security office.

Dave David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

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<mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 2:32 PM To: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Cc: Media relations / Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN)

<mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Burnell, Scott

<Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Gerrish, Meghan <meghan.gerrish@cnsc-ccsn.gc. ca>

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[External_Sender] RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Hi David, thanks for your email. This is interesting because we were waiting for a follow up request re: UAPs from a US reporter - Dustin Slaughter.

I do have some information but need a little time to gather it. I will see what I can put together today but a more fulsome update might have to happen on Monday.

Cheers, Kim Kim Cunningham Media Relations Advisor Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission Mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca / 613-996-6860 From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Sent: June 17, 20221:52 PM To: Gerrish, Meghan <meghan.gerrish@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>

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FW: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Hi Meghan - I work with Scott Burnell at the USNRC's Public Affairs shop. We're trying to answer this reporter's questions about your agency reaching out to ours for discussions about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs, aka UFOs) over nuclear facilities. The reporter posted a piece earlier today:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/epz4bw/canadas-going-to-share-ufo-info-with-the-us-officials-say Our security folks say your security folks recently asked us to put UAVs - ie., drones, not flying saucers - on the agenda for future

security discussions. Can you confirm to us what CNSC has asked for, and with what NRC office?

Thanks, Dave McIntyre David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

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FW: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Not sure who this one belongs with.

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Question or Comment: Hello, I am a Canadian journalist working on a story for VICE. The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission has confirmed that it has reached out to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory

Commission to discuss nuclear security and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP):

https://twitter.com/dsotis/status/1537464243418714112 I have a few quick questions: 1) Are you able to confirm that Canadian officials have contacted the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission about UAP? 2) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission cooperating and providing information to Canadians about UAP? If so, what is being shared? 3) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission engaged in ongoing U.S. efforts to investigate UAP? If so, in what capacity? 4) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission aware of UAP reports from American nuclear facilities? Are you able provide an overview? S) Does the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission have policies or procedures in place for UAP reports?

6) Anything else to add? I understand you may not be able to answer all of my questions, so your help where available would be greatly appreciated. My deadline here can be flexible, but ideally it would be great to her back from you by t he end of the day. I look forward to your reply. Best wishes, Daniel Would you like to remain anonymous?: False Name: DANIEL OTIS E-mail:1 (b-)(

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Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:16:39 +0000 McIntyre, Dave;Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN)

Burnell, Scott;Donnelly, lisa;Gratton, Wayne;Heppell-Masys, Kathleen;Perron,

[External_Sender) RE: RE: RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian Agreed. We've responded to Daniel - response below:

As stated in the letter to Mr. Maguire, the CNSC has approached our United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (US NRC) colleagues regarding the nature of their nuclear security requirements for drones and UAPs and potentially evolving requirements. We will discuss their approach further as it evolves. For now, existing nuclear security requirements in both countries are we/I-aligned.

At this time, there has been no further discussion and therefore there is no additional information to provide.

Thank you, From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Sent: June 21, 2022 3:35 PM To: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Donnelly, Lisa <lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Gratton, Wayne <wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-Masys, Kathleen <Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Perron, Heloise <heloise.perron@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

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RE: RE: RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL-USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Hi Kim - Looks at this point like we can reasonably confirm to Dan Otis that your side reached out to ours on this topic and it is slated for future discussion. That won't tell him anything more than you already have, but ifs all there is.

Dave David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 ( direct)

From: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 12:32 PM To: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>; Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Donnelly, Lisa <Lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>;

Gratton, Wayne <wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-Masys, Kathleen

<Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Perron, Heloise <heloise.perron@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Subject:

[External_Sender] RE: RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officiials for VICE Hi Dave, Daniel has since reached out to us. I've confirmed receipt.

Note that this statement from Kathleen's letter is the most current and accurate status, even though not new information for Daniel:

We have also approached our United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission (US NRC) colleagues regarding the nature of their nuclear security requirements for drones and UAPs and potentially evolving requirements. We will discuss their approach further as it evolves. For now, existing nuclear security requirements in both countries are well-aligned.

I recommend that we reiterate, the above.

We can connect as planned tomorrow. I'm not available from 1-4 pm EST but free almost all morning.

Thanks, KIM From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Sent: June 17, 2022 3:44 PM To: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Donnelly, Lisa <Lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>;

Gratton, Wayne <wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-Masys, Kathleen

<Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Perron, Heloise <heloise.perron@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Subject:

RE: RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL-USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE

Hi Kim - I just sent the attached response to Mr. Otis. In it, you'll see his original questions to us. Since he's already reported the discussions, this will give us a bit of time to coordinate before giving him more.

Thanks for your help! I'm sure we'll be in touch next week. Enjoy the weekend!

Dave David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

From: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 2:59 PM To: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>; Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Donnelly, Lisa <Lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Gratton, Wayne <wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-Masys, Kathleen <Kathleen.Heppell-Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Perron, Heloise

<heloise.perro n@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

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[External_Sender] RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Ok, I'm inclined to think they know each other for certain!

Not sure what we can do today but I can confirm it was Kathleen that met with USNRC.

It would be best for me to liaise with her - and then we should try to connect on Tuesday when you're back in the office.

If anything comes together sooner than that, I will send it your way.

KIM From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Sent: June 17, 2022 2:51 PM To: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>; Gerrish, Meghan <meghan.gerrish@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Donnelly, Lisa <Lisa.Donnelly@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Gratton, Wayne

<wayne.gratton@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Heppell-M asys, Kathleen <Kathleen.Heppell-

Masys@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

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RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL-USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Thanks, Kim and Meghan!

I just learned from someone in our security office that indeed this subject came up in recent talks with your folks.

Dustin Slaughter is a frequent Freedom of Information Act requester. Most of his work, I believe, has been on drones over our NPPs, but he now seems interested in flying saucers. He may be working with Mr. Otis, or perhaps in competition with him.

Anything you can send today would be appreciated. After that, we have a holiday on Monday.

And my apologies - my boss had forwarded me an email several days ago asking me to reach out to your folks on this subject. Lisa Donnelly and Wayne Gratton were on the email, as well as Kathleen Heppell-Masys in your security office.

Dave David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

From: Media relations / Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN)

<mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 2:32 PM To: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Cc: Media relations/ Relations avec les medias (CNSC/CCSN) <mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>; Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>;

Gerrish, Meghan <meghan.gerrish@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Subject:

[External_Sender) RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Hi David, thanks for your email. This is interesting because we were waiting for a follow up request re: UAPs from a US reporter - Dustin Slaughter.

I do have some information but need a little time to gather it. I will see what I can put together today but a more fulsome update might have to happen on Monday.

Cheers, Kim Kim Cunningham Media Relations Advisor Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission Mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca / 613-996-6860 From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

Sent: June 17, 2022 1:52 PM To: Gerrish, Meghan <meghan.gerrish@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca>

Cc: Burnell, Scott <Scott.Burnell@nrc.gov>

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FW: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL-USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Hi Meghan - I work with Scott Burnell at the USNRC's Public Affairs shop. We're trying to answer this reporter's questions about your agency reaching out to ours for discussions about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs, aka UFOs) over nuclear facilities. The reporter posted a piece earlier today: https://www.vice.com/en/article/epz4bw/canadas-qoinq-to-share-ufo-info-with-the-us-officials-say Our security folks say your security folks recently asked us to put UAVs -

ie., drones, not flying saucers - on the agenda for future security discussions. Can you confirm to us what CNSC has asked for, and with what NRC office?

Thanks, Dave McIntyre David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

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FW: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts w ith Canadian officials for VICE Not sure who this one belongs with.

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Question or Comment: Hello, I am a Canadian journalist working on a story for VICE. The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission has confirmed that it has reached out to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to discuss nuclear security and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP):

https://twitter.com/dsotis/status/1537464243418714112 I have a few quick questions: 1) Are you able to confirm that Canadian officials have contacted the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission about UAP? 2) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission cooperating and providing information to Canadians about UAP? If so, what is being shared? 3) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission engaged in ongoing U.S. efforts to investigate UAP? If so, in what capacity? 4) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission aware of UAP reports from American nuclear facilities? Are you able provide an overview? S) Does the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission have policies or procedures in place for UAP reports? 6) Anything else to add? I understand you may not be able to answer all of my questions, so your help where available would be greatly appreciated. My deadline here can be flexible, but ideally it would be great to her back from you by the end of the day. I look

forward to your reply. Best wishes, Daniel Would you like to remain anonymous?: False Name: DANIEL OTIS E-mail ~-~-lc6_i ______ _

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RE: RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Attachments:

RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Hi Kim - I just sent the attached response to Mr. Otis. In it, you'll see his original questions to us. Since he's already reported the discussions, this will give us a bit of time to coordinate before giving him more.

Thanks for your help! I'm sure we'll be in touch next week. Enjoy the weekend!

Dave David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

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[External_Sender] RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Ok, I'm inclined to think they know each other for certain!

Not sure what we can do today but I can confirm it was Kathleen that met with USNRC. It would be best for me to liaise with her - and then we should try to connect on Tuesday when you're back in the office.

If anything comes together sooner than that, I will send it your way.

KIM

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RE: RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL-USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Thanks, Kim and Meghan!

I just learned from someone in our security office that indeed this subject came up in recent talks with your folks.

Dustin Slaughter is a frequent Freedom of Information Act requester. Most of his work, I believe, has been on drones over our NPPs, but he now seems interested in flying saucers. He may be working with Mr. Otis, or perhaps in competition with him.

Anything you can send today would be appreciated. After that, we have a holiday on Monday.

And my apologies - my boss had forwarded me an email several days ago asking me to reach out to your folks on this subject. Lisa Donnelly and Wayne Gratton were on the email, as well as Kathleen Heppell-Masys in your security office.

Dave David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

(301) 415-8206 (direct)

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[External_Sender] RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Hi David, thanks for your email. This is interesting because we were waiting for a follow up request re: UAPs from a US reporter - Dustin Slaughter.

I do have some information but need a little time to gather it. I will see what I can put together today but a more fulsome update might have to happen on Monday.

Cheers, Kim Kim Cunningham Media Relations Advisor Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission Mediarelations-relationsmedias@cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca / 613-996-6860 From: McIntyre, Dave <David.Mclntyre@nrc.gov>

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FW: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION/ COURRIEL EXTERNE - FAITES PREUVE DE PRUDENCE Hi Meghan - I work with Scott Burnell at the USNRC's Public Affairs shop. We're trying to answer this reporter's questions about your agency reaching out to ours for discussions about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs, aka UFOs) over nuclear facilities. The reporter posted a piece earlier today:

https :/ /www.vice.com/e n/ article/ epz 4bw /ca nad a s-goi n g-to-share-uf o-i nfo-with-the-us-officia Is-say Our security folks say your security folks recently asked us to put UAVs - ie.,

drones, not flying saucers - on the agenda for future security discussions. Can you confirm to us what CNSC has asked for, and with what NRC office?

Thanks, Dave McIntyre David McIntyre Public Affairs Officer U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (301) 415-8200 (office)

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FW: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Not sure who this one belongs with.

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Question or Comment: Hello, I am a Canadian journalist working on a story for VICE. The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission has confirmed that it has reached out to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to discuss nuclear security and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP):

https://twitter.com/dsotis/status/1537464243418714112 I have a few quick questions: 1) Are you able to confirm that Canadian officials have contacted the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission about UAP? 2) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission cooperating and providing information to Canadians about UAP? If so, what is being shared? 3) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission engaged in ongoing U.S. efforts to investigate UAP? If so, in what capacity? 4) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission aware of UAP reports from American nuclear facilities? Are you able provide an overview? 5) Does the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission have policies or procedures in place for UAP reports? 6) Anything else to add? I understand you may not be able to answer all of my questions, so your help where available would be greatly appreciated. My deadline here can be flexible, but ideally it would be great to

her back from you by the end of the day. I look forward to your reply. Best wishes, Daniel Would you like to remain anonymous?: False Name: DANIEL OTIS E-mail:... r_lc_

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RE: MEDIA REQUEST: Contacts with Canadian officials for VICE Hi Mr. Otis - Your timing is a bit unfortunate, as this is Friday before a holiday weekend, when a lot of people take time off to enjoy the spring weather. Monday is a federal holiday, and I suspect Sunday being Father's Day may also contribute to all the "Out of Office" replies I received trying to develop an answer for you. May I try to get back to you on Tuesday?

In a general sense, I can tell you that we have had sightings of Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAVs - ie., drones) over U.S. nuclear power plants, but no UAPs - or more colloquially, flying saucers. We request our licensees to report any suspicious overflights to us. This currently is voluntary, but we are developing a new regulation that would make it a requirement to report a suspicious overflight of any kind.

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Question or Comment: Hello, I am a Canadian journalist working on a story for VICE. The Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission has confirmed that it has reached out to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to discuss nuclear security and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP):

https://twitter.com/dsotis/status/1537464243418714112 I have a few quick questions: 1) Are

you able to confirm that Canadian officials have contacted the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission about UAP? 2) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission cooperating and providing information to Canadians about UAP? If so, what is being shared? 3) Is the U.S.

Nuclear Regulatory Com mission engaged in ongoing U.S. efforts to investigate UAP? If so, in what capacity? 4) Is the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission aware of UAP reports from American nuclear facilities? Are you able provide an overview? 5) Does the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission have policies or procedures in place for UAP reports? 6) Anything else to add? I understand you may not be able to answer all of my questions, so your help where available would be greatly appreciated. My deadline here can be flexible, but ideally it would be great to her back from you by the end of the day. I look forward to your reply. Best wishes, Daniel Would you like to remain anonymous?: False Name: DANIEL OTIS E-mail:._r_l<_

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