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Hermes CP Doc - Additional NRC Questions for February 9 Public Meeting
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From: Beasley, Benjamin Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 7:25 AM To: Darrell Gardner; Drew Peebles; Martin Bryan Cc: Helvenston, Edward; Cuadrado de Jesus, Samuel; Schmidt, Jeffrey

Subject:

Additional NRC Questions for February 9 Public Meeting

Darrell, Drew, and Marty,

We discovered yesterday afternoon that we omitted the questions on quality assurance and structural loading that we intended to discuss in the meeting this afternoon. I apologize for this mistake. I have provided the questions below.

If you prefer, I can schedule another meeting to discuss these additional questions or you may address them this afternoon. You may tell me this afternoon what your preference is.

Regards, Ben

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Benjamin Beasley Senior Project Manager Advanced Reactor Licensing Branch 301-415-2062 OWFN 2-H01

3.2-1 Section 3.2.3.2 of the PSAR states that the maximum hurricane wind speed (V) is taken from RG 1.221. In the PSAR this value is identified as 130 mph. Reading Figure 2 in RG 1.221 it appears V should be 140 mph. Please explain how it was determined that 130 mph was the proper value in accordance with RG 1.221.

3.2-2 PSAR Section 3.2.4.2 - The snow load on the structure is determined in accordance with ASCE 7-10 and PSAR Equation 3.2-2. The coefficients for Equation 3.2-2 are provided, except for Cs, related to the roof slope. Explain why the roof slope factor is not provided at this point or add the coefficient to the PSAR.

3.2-3 PSAR Section 3.2.4.2 lists the ground snow load, pg, in Eq. 3.2-2 as 10 psf and notes that is taken from Fig. 7-1 of ASCE 7-10. Section 7.2 of ASCE 7-10 notes that pg is based on a 50-year recurrence interval.

PSAR Section 2.3.1.11 notes that the value of 10 psf must be adjusted by a factor of 1.22 to determine the 100-year return value of 12.2 psf.

PSAR 2.3.1.11 further notes that the normal winter precipitation event at the site is determined to be 21.9 psf.

Explain why 10 psf was taken as the ground snow load instead of 12.2 psf or 21.9 psf.

3.2-4 PSAR Section 3.2.4 - There is no discussion of rain-on-snow surcharge loads as discussed in ASCE 7-10 Section 7.10. Explain how the rain-on-snow surcharge is addressed or why it does not apply.

3.5-1 PSAR Section 3.5.3.2.2 explains how safety-related SSCs will be protected from internal flooding due to fire protection; however, there is no discussion of how SSCs will be protected from the actuation of the fire protection system. Explain how safety-related SSCs will be protected from fire protection water.

12.9-1 Will Kairos be performing tests and experiments on the Hermes reactor that will be used to support the Kairos Power reactor design? This has to do with considerations of 10 CFR 50.43. If the answer is yes, what is Kairos plan to make the data from those tests and experiments meet the Appendix B quality assurance requirements for the Kairos Power reactor design?

12.9-2 More information is needed about sections in the ANSI 15.8 QA standard that were omitted in the Hermes QA program description.

From: Helvenston, Edward <Edward.Helvenston@nrc.gov>

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 4:59 PM To: gardner@kairospower.com; peebles@kairospower.com; Martin Bryan <bryan@kairospower.com>

Cc: Beasley, Benjamin <Benjamin.Beasley@nrc.gov>; Cuadrado de Jesus, Samuel

<Samuel.CuadradoDeJesus@nrc.gov>; Schmidt, Jeffrey <Jeffrey.Schmidt2@nrc.gov>

Subject:

NRC Questions for February 9 Public Meeting

Hello Darrell, Drew, Marty,

In advance of the public meeting scheduled for next Wednesday, February 9, please see below for a list of preliminary questions the NRC staff has prepared for Kairos related to the Hermes PSAR, to facilitate preparation for and discussion at the meeting. We will add this e-mail with the questions to public ADAMS. If any questions ahead of the meeting, please let Ben, Sam, or I know.

Thanks, Ed

1. PSAR Section 3.1.1 states [t]he application of these criteria [PDC] to the SSCs of the test reactor are shown in Table 3.1-2. PSAR Table 3.1-2, Regulations Requiring Exemptions for the Hermes Reactor does not appear to address PDCs. Was PSAR Table 3.1-3 meant to be referenced in this sentence? If not, please clarify how PSAR Table 3.1-2 applies the criteria to the SSCs of the test reactor.
2. The middle of third paragraph in PSAR Section 3.1.1 lists a number of PDCs, includi ng PDC 77. However, PDC 77 is not listed in topical report KP-TR-003 nor PSAR Table 3.1-
3. Should this be PDC 76?
3. Topical report KP-TR-003 uses the term safety-significant in the context of licensing using the Licensing Modernization Project (LMP) program. The LMP program is not being used in the Hermes construction permit application. In PSAR Section 3.1.1, Kairos identifies a number of PDCs for which it states it only considers safety-related structures, systems, and components (SSCs) to be within the meaning of safety significant as used in the PDCs. Does the definition of safety-related as used in the PSAR only consider structures, systems, and components (SSCs) which satisfy the definition of safety-related SSCs in 10 CFR 50.2, Definitions, or is it broader, to include SSCs that are risk significant or used for defense-in-depth? Of the PDCs not listed in PSAR Section 3.1.1 as being satisfied by safety -related SSCs only, are there any PDCs satisfied solely by non-safety SSCs, and would these PDCs still be considered safety significant consistent with topical report KP-TR-003?
4. Is there some reason why the term postulated events is used instead of postulated accidents (consistent with NUREG-1537), to describe the types of accidents analyzed in the PSAR (Chapter 13)?
5. Reference 2 listed in PSAR Section 3.1.3 identifies the Kairos Power, LLC, topical report KP-TR-003-P-A, Principal Design Criteria for the Kairos Power Fluoride Salt-Cooled High Temperature Reactor, as dated July 2019. However, the safety evaluation that was issued by the NRC staff for this topical report was not issued until May 20, 2020 (ADAMS Accession No. ML20111A118), and the -A version was published after the safety evaluation issuance. Should this reference be to KP-TR-003-P, Revision 1?
6. The PSAR Section 3.6 and Chapter 4 design information related to the reactor vessel system and reactor vessel support system does not include information related to the cycles (i.e., temperature and/or mechanical loading cycles) that are assumed in the design. Also, the load combinations to be used for the different ASME Code design load levels (i.e., A, B, C, and D) are not identified in the PSAR. To make the requisite NUREG-1537, Part 2, Section 3.5, Systems and Components, findings, th e staff needs to understand the loads being assumed for the different ASME Code design levels and how the loads are combined (e.g., straight addition or square root sum of the squares (SRSS)), along with the assumptions used to evaluate cyclic fatigue (sta rt-ups, shutdowns, trips, transient assumptions, etc.).
7. PSAR Section 4.7 mentions a reactor vessel connector, which is shown on the bottom portion of PSAR Figure 4.7-1. The figure shows the reactor vessel connector as a bolt. Is this a bolt with a nut on the bottom? How many vessel connectors are there? Does this reactor vessel connector fit through holes in the reactor vessel bottom plate to provide lateral and vertical restraint for the reactor vessel?
8. Is the information in PSAR Table 4.1-1 the normal or nominal operating parameters, or is it the design parameters, for the reactor vessel and associated systems?
9. PSAR Section 4.2.2 indicates PDC 2 applies to the design of the Reactor Control and Shutdown System (RCSS), and that to address PDC 2 seismic considerations, a one-time test to assess control element insertion capability will be conducted prior to initial reactor operation. Is this test done out-of-pile or during initial reactor startup testing? If a one-time, out-of-pile test, what will be the basis for this test being conservative (e.g., a geometric maximum deflection)?
10. Related to the discussion of PDC 4 in PSAR Section 4.2.2.3, what would be the effect on the neutron absorbing material in the control elements if it came in contact with the coolant? LWR operation experience has demonstrated that stainless steel clad, B4C control rods have failed, and absorber material unexpectedly dissolved in the coolant. Is there a plan for testing the potential interaction of B4C and Flibe? If not, what is the basis for not testing?
11. Related to the discussion of PDC 4 in PSAR Section 4.2.2.3, what are the stress limits used for the SS 316H material used for the control and shutdown elements? Are these from the ASME Code?
12. In the discussion of PDC 4 in PSAR Section 4.2.2.3, the shutdown and drive mechanisms are said to be analyzed to meet ASME Section III Division 5 loads due to operational stepping, reactor trip, stuck element, fatigue, and shipping and handling.

Have seismic loads also been considered?

13. The discussion of PDC 4 in PSAR Section 4.2.2.3 states control and shutdown elements are tested to ensure that wear during element movement is acceptable. Will this test program be performed out-of-pile before initial reactor operation? What are the wear acceptance criteria (e.g., two-thirds of cladding thickness)?
14. PSAR Section 4.3 states The anti-siphon feature also limits the loss of reactor coolant inventory from inside the reactor vessel in case of a [primary heat transport system (PHTS)] breach. Describe the anti-siphon feature that limits the loss of vessel inventory in the event of a break in the PHTS. Could a leak in the piping connected to the defueling chute or the pebble insertion line establish a siphon and result in a loss of coolant within the core?
15. How are pebbles kept from entering the suction of the primary salt pump and being impacted by the impeller?
16. PSAR Figure 4.3-2 shows the primary salt pump as a penetration in the reactor vessel top head design. Is this penetration for the discharge piping of the salt pump, the actual housing for the salt pump, or something different? Please provide more information so that we may obtain a complete understanding of this penetration.
17. PSAR Chapter 14 describes a limiting condition for operation (LCO) technical specification (specifically, LCO 3.4, Engineering Safety Features - Reactor Vessel Integrity) that will be developed for the Hermes operating license to provide a limit on the reactor vessel system temperature. However, PSAR Chapter 7 does not appear to include a description of a temperature monitoring device to determine compliance with this LCO. Will this device be an input to the reactor protection system or an indicating alarm to the operators to take action should the temperature exceed a certain value?

How many channels will be available? Will this LCO be based on the coolant temperature sensor or vessel temperature sensors?

Ed Helvenston, U.S. NRC Non-Power Production and Utilization Facility Licensing Branch (UNPL)

Division of Advanced Reactors and Non-Power Production and Utilization Facilities (DANU)

Office of Nuclear Reactor Regulation (NRR)

O-12C07 (301) 415-4067

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