ML20126C033
| ML20126C033 | |
| Person / Time | |
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| Site: | Trojan File:Portland General Electric icon.png |
| Issue date: | 03/11/1980 |
| From: | Mark Miller Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel |
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| References | |
| NUDOCS 8003250184 | |
| Download: ML20126C033 (14) | |
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U NIT E D STATES NUCLEAR R EG UL ATORY C OMMIS SIO N In the matter of:
Portland General Electric Company, et al
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(Trojan Nuclear Plant) 9 P1 ace:
Portland, Oregon Date:
March 11. 1920 P a g es:
3451-3590 lNTERNATIONAL VERBATIM REPORTERS INC.
499 SOUTH CAPITOL STREE.T. S. W. SUITE 107 9
WASHINGTON, D. C. 20002 202 484-3550 8003 E) 018 4
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3 2 at th-Trojan proceedin J will co w tu otJec,.> 1010 0.
6 na y;u '; n u a, this Einal prehaarinj coaference ha; 7
Leen schtdulen purs;iant to notice diich wa s pub l i s h e'!
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L Fe..eral aujiater, 1 T, l'ectural :te j i s ter, % 41, 1ebruary 13, 9
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lu cl J are jettinj ready for ths evid en tia r y ': eat in]
on 11 tou Phaa; p r o c e ed i n'.J
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.h isuuc > to at invulveu in Ph a,a:
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Ltw 14 a c :s g and t i a c i l a e :., L ol t ;r:. prop;sud Jiiications in the l ',
- o n tr;>l ouilGinj o '.
- t. h e Trajan f li c il i t y a uc li as arc requirua J
1; to brinj it in coicliar.ce with the original o pe r a t i n-J liceque 17 conJitian, on !. r.:
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'\\n.> t n e t insta. ius t l> e.j o n e into, J.12thet to continue ZU operstian at the frojan facility iurinj the t i t.w the p ro po s ed 21 nuoJ1l.1cotI'>0.3 al e j ae r 10 I lei'..
22 int %itter0 l i G ted in t his prehearinj conference ti r e
.1 to considet oli pendin.j motiona, siaelitication or i
ClOIiiIcation O[ 1$5U03, nt'Cs'bity Or d O C } t' Jiu i l i t y o f n
m aain3 p1 em i n g, attendinj the ucegt u nta, <na eh,
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p3 e gl cantuntu vi autnenticity of doc. entL in order t.> avoic 2
. n u i e c e.; s a r y g r.s o f, thu id t a ti fica t io n of 'itum au, au ~ otuer 3
aatteru whic h ma y ;t ;onducive to the orderly co n ! uc t
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evlueat entry i.carinj soen it c oca - i e n c e :3 on 4rch 31, l'J.
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b Ther( are s' e ge nd i nrj ootions, one sa sill tate up G
lat>r ~hich has.>een fil ed af the Licen.n :, o.totion l
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concerninq achedale for i11in; te tiauny an1 Sgecification af
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d ma.tters to oe considered at the hearin; a?caion.aich relatrs 1
9 to t i.. a s nu tae date af filinj of s i a il a r d oc u.m n t s and thu 1
10 consideration of thact.
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11 i'h e Licensee filed 6 ilo ti o n lated D- > r u a r y 7, l'J30 j
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!ar > u.a. iar y a i s pa ci t io n o f cantentions aus.
3, 17, ?O and 2:
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la of tia conaal id a ted interveninj I a r ties.
l 16 Tn2 J t a l' t Liled a rc spanse to that.aotion datet 13
/eatuary 26, lWO,
,.J t eein j that the bur wr y d is posi t ion l
1G u n.> ul d ou j r ua ted as to CtV P cantentions, as to cantentianu 3 l 'i and 13, but recon iandinj that uu.tiary dispasition not %
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la jranted au to Ci l P cantentions 20 ana 22.
l 19 Inwa not receivca any responnes to tra action of 20 n.,iaary oiseasitian frua Intevenors.
I don't kna a,shuther 21 they uid tile it.
I n wen' t caen tnc a.
Co the 6taif has also flied its ' a fet f Evaluotion i
23 d e po r t, the so-cal l ed M cN, relatinj to the d eal'j n
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- u ou i t ic a t ioa b of the Control buildin).
l 2h fue start has also filed e u.a sa f e t y Ev al ua tion 1
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h1 c.e ga r t an oeuijninj criteria for w unr y viall s in the Tr oj an
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Puser Pl a n t by Dr. J S ". e, C.;1 v i l e, C 0 LV 1 L aC 3
consultant on
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4 Toa s e c o n,1 S it r r*l a t e d to the
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b se d i.,c un c en previously.
'i V1ditional i n f. a r! ; a t i o n, 1 oeliove, st a d bean filed 7
froa t iaie to Lian by the Licenaae.
I knaw that ther-are O
v v):a e Lilinp ana d i c.c us s i o n s ualer l e t. te r of FeStuary 29, U
1900, froi sr.
H.> n u l d 'r J o h n c.o n, an ensistant Jt neral co un s el,
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10 relatinj to Lae jeneral sta f t's Safety !-:v a l ua t i o n W.'part anJ 1
11 the preliainary r e / i u '., of the report of Dr. Col /lle, and I a.a i
O'2 oure there are otnar re.;ponsen of infornation ihich will be O
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'iu continue the procecdinJs.
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15 at the prasent identify themselvet far the r e c o rel, please?
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M pr e.;e n t i n j the L i c en er in 17 thin stoceedinj to;la y 13 r'a ur i c e 6.x e l r ad of L>senstein, 10 maaan, Rais, Ax el r m! L Toll, and with ne Mr. Al b c r t Carr, 19 Jr.,
of the s o :.e liru.
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.! 2 is /G ;i uten t Attorney t2neral Rich a rd Samlvik, a n :.1 locanette
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for the UtaIL, Mr. Charles Trae ell, drew F e r.s i n ko, and j
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cuAIn4AN MILLUR:
Any othet party or cannsel that 6
!.a u not oeen id en ti f ied ?
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ilo,x. r t L Jones on hahalf af Donneville
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C.i;Il 4 AN AILLUs:
I ' i.. :o r r y a cl i d n ' t i rov id e ru o.t 10 Lor yau at the ta bl e,
oc are short of. space here.
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all rijht.
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Anyane ei n e ?
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LO:l l, le t's jut our doc u mata t ion 15 aplated.
'. h.: n lit a t a assentled and discusced these mattaru,
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..au oetween Chriutuau and New Year'n of 1979, au I r e a l l.
17 Tne Utail iu joinj to file and is wo r ki n j on its IL
._:fet/ :. s c u a t i o,1 v> ;.o r t of L;F toditicatlana shich havt l '. -
J a., a u ill 3 auta file
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.n r e.;l J a considerinj 7t t.h a t 20 tima tne uo-called wall proble.u, an" roac of the t h i n ; ;, there
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21 that have beca eccoaplinhad.
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.s t a t u 3 of the pr oc eed iq j s a r e froh the ;t al f' u po i n t of
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l listeninj will know where we are, pl e a se.
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un 12bruary 14, 3 " 'i o, to
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i t. a Gat.uty Lvcluatian ilu pa r t wi t h r e;j e rd t>
t h' i: r o l > w '
4 9.o d i f i c a t i o n s tv the Co n t r ol Ecli l rl in j.
Tnat. Sa [e t y O.
b E/eluation ile po r t c a n s id e r ed wtat we belleve to le all 6
cspectu of t rl-e pr o po s e d aod i fic a t io ns includin1 the safety 7
operation.
i t.a t Safety cvaluation neport i ncl ud ed evaluation C
of aafety aseccts of operat. ion during pe rio rnance o f the a
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.touification work as well as a structural evaluation o f the 10 pr o po sud.aod i t ica tio ns thenaelves and whether those 11
- ioc i f ica t ions woulc be adequate to brinj the f acility i n tc; 2
ouoatantial com pl ia nc e with the licenue.
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13 In tiie l a t t. e r rejard,
- t. n o Staff was unable ta 14 conclune in the balety Evol ua tio n Re po r t that in fact thu lb pro paced uodi fica tions would De ad e q ua t.e.
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16 CHAlt<4/u 4 I L L rb1:
You say it wa s unablv?
17 Ah, Gla Y:
Unable to conclude at the ti.ne the 10 3a f e ty iWal ua t io n ho po r t Was ad.ii t ted that the 19 C IM Ili O N
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Were there soae unresolvcc i t eia u ?
20 Could we start listinj thma so our recoro would be con plete?
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21 Thun we can tell what hapiened to sone of tau.a.
22 4R. JRAY:
I s uppo se that it's --
23 Cii41K4AN MILLSh:
Your cover letter refers to tne
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A unresolved iteas wh ic u r en a i n.
I think there ha v e been 25 filinja and c ot. n e n t s cince thca.
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vi rec >lution in to indicate that this ;u ct l'r id a y, Ma r.:li 7, 3
the Statt
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a rtiaininj unrunolved it ni.
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i..; ue r a n.i.< 1 1 1, os I u nd e r s t a an it, will pre an L in it'
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13 teatiiony to w lil vi na<t o nd ay.
I caa ho w' tain liotinj 14
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I think it's the caniest way to 15 mil h u 4 I I L L.. d :
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In any cvent, sho t m-e < p e c: t to 17 tr oaupi r e-is tuat thcue adlitional aaalysea aill he ruflecte!
l LJ In tns Licun3eu's L o s t i. i.; n y to be film an
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au r m lve shat the statt acl i e ve s to oe unreco1vt'
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Fine.
2 ilt. GaAY:
Shall I read it?
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Yes, please, thun
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It's enti tled Suppleuental InLotmation i
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6 Heguested of Meeting of March 7 of 1980.
Item 1, ca pac i t y i
7 co n s i d e r a t i o n.3, A,
address diajonal sheer cracking ca pa c i t,y J
6 ad a f unction o f aspect ratio.
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C4 amine a:Id i tio nal walls to deterttine po te n t i a l 10 effect of jross bending on capacity to [orce ratios.
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Ouantify the ef fect of consideration o f embedded col u.tos as equivalen t o f rein forcing on s ti f f. ness ; also the O'2
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1.3 effect of po te n t i al red uc ed dead loa'i.
14 D,
Ass u ai nj that total base sheer remains constant, ib predict the relative distribution amonj the sh2er elements D
16 wi t.h g ross oe nd ing and po tential dead load reduction 17 co naid er ed,
10 B,
Verily the double curvature fl ex or al capacity is 19 still in cantrolliaj capacity, i ncl ud i n J consideration of 20 diajonal te n s i o n.
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21 Item 2, labponse S?ectra.
Deteraine how the iaove
- 1. 2 con sid er a t ions effect the floor r e '31,o n s e spectra.
23 Ite' 3,
Vertical Sheer.
Al e n ) the steel pl a t e, take 4
the friction that will couponent o f beua colunn connection t' e bolt f r ic tion only without sheer friction of reSaro 25 and n
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in t iid }0rtion of. the dall S:ll i nd the s t e t:1 plate, /; n d 2
de te rliin t th; CXtent t3 shich the Vertical ShGer force can 1> 0
.3 rediGted Without alip.
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Wew Co nc r e t e El e:a e n t s, e x <ut i n e the patential
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'2 increase in Icod in the nas walls r e s ul t i ng frou tue reducti3n in stiffncsa in existin; walls because of r ed uc tio n 1
in vertical l a ad s o ue to both deed
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oe nd i n.j, alonj with any relative d1Jplace: ant betaeen tho 1
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10 itut 5, Di a pl ac ea en t s.
with c o n s i:l e r a t io n of the li
! results f i cca the evaluatians in tea 1 above, r ecalc ula te t h' I
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lJ in te r-st r uc t ur e iisplacenents.j iv e n in Pa r a ; r a p')
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ohlte affidavit in the notian for s a.m ar y d i s pa c i t i an 14 of CFCp 22; review the f ac to r 4.3,jiven to esti.a te l '.)
h y po t h e t ic a l d i s pl a c e,a en t s as re por ted in t h-3 Jiuly 10
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16 respanoe to Sta f f's My 1H, 1979, cuantion 11 ; +a nd eddreas 17 L ;n: e f f. ec t u
_acreased d i s pl ac e.a ent, 11 any, on pr ev io usl y ib calculater reber strains.
u, Col uan exposure durin' aodificatiaa.
19 t od 1tt 2L ae t.e r u i n e sacLaer < ny o f the aucve con;1derations inpa:t
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21 p r e s i v u:.,
ev<iluation; with respect t.o na in ta in i n;; s e i.m i l e J2 cnpability ourinj c x p 3 s u r t-of co) u mL cs part af the 23
- i. ao i f i c a lion pragrua.
4 nie ncil docuient that the Stali has la L pu t l a c du between Jr.ii n c e the hearinJ nt the end of D E.:c e:n b e r, l 's 7 9,
D d i,UVI C si n
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atAt ;ucuacnt the J t.a 1 f h 7+ a dit,tributed saE t i ed 11fety 2
e / u l th, t i o n Re po t t un the Wall i. r o bl ea.
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After tnu hearin] gr ut the ine Jr i n'i an bec.4ber 30, a
G l ') 7 !/, the lic e.lLi n j b o a r '.i r ubC i tid ed its ordtt r>.i,uirin.J the
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b plant to r e. ia in in a si n u t-d o wn condition Dut, of Jourse, G
.; b.no wl uJ j ed that tnere w: s ;til1 a d i r ec tio n fr h th; hC ' 5 7
Jfficu al Inu gect ion & Unforceaent rcquirinj the plant to D
a r ess a i n Shut down unti,1 the n'a11 problei U 't La t i U f. -t 3 L 7 r i 1 y I
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reaolJeu.
10 l'a l l o,i n l the he a r in] 3eb;iand dL t' o 00:1 of a
D 11 ved e n,
t, Lod JLuit mut with Licencue personnel in a deries 2
of 2 4 t e nii ed
..ie e t i n j s, r e v l e w e 'j ia!d i t i o n al an al y30 s, an1
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dett'rnined thdt the via l l p r o t,l e.
h &. i been un ti.i f ac to r il'y 14 resolved to cllow cJ a f 0 operation i>f the plint.
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sasta on that <!ete r tina t ion, th" OffiCO 01 l a si,e c ti o n n
.Jt 1'o r c e ae n t r o cc i nri e
ita letter l'FJ i c a t i n j tnat l
17 the pl c.n t
.u no uld re ao in shut c..: a sa, a nd the plant ru;umed Id o p e r o t. i o n.
19 l'a e Eafety 1,v a l ua t i o n i:e i.o r t an t% v311 prable.i it --
20 the d oc u.a u n ta t io n ]f the evaluatian
,m n dune by the Staff 3
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.iita rejer0 to the iso l l pr obl e t i aC that '. t a u Deen :l i n t r i b ut ei!
to the
..o o rd (4 nd the parties fot information.
23 I nnaulo po i n t out th it un d er normal
,ir t.c t i c e,
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- 01. that naturu, is not requirinj an inspection of en fo rcement 26 60 tion but it was prepared in this c a s.e ta d oc u.a a n t d i.i t had D
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hI been done.
2 Vinall y wh a t's ocen referred to a.., t h :. Calvilu 3
Heport la a r e par t by the consultant to the rMC Staff 4
jenerally rejarding the wall pronlea.
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b Colvile c on s id e r e:1 different data than had been considered by 6
tra Staff and to a k a d i f f e r e n t.
approach in lookinj at thst 7
wall problem.
it has raised several questions which at thiu D
o t i:a e ere -- tid s i r o:a pted the Staff to request an e v. pu d i t u d s
J t : st p r o j r oul at Trojan to c :)n f i t :n soae of the valuus that the 10 J t a ii f telied upan in it s own evaluation.
And I uelieve that 11 u u.autet r i ce s.]ener all y tho s e itaj o r doc traen ts.
12 CIMIn4AN MILLmt:
Th a n k you, Tr. Cray.
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13 cir. Ax el t aa, I think perhapa you can j lva J uma r lea l
16 iadicated tren four pc, int of view share.aattsra stand, if yau l ';
w uld, i.l e a se.
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Ce r ta inl y.
,ith r espec t to the 17 Unfet/ Evaluatlan Mu par t that the Staff filed lebruary 14 as lb tr. Uray haL indi;ated, un did ra e t t with the St i f f on, larch 7.
19 1 don't believe c4 r. Gra y raun tioned that the conuu1Laut to the 4
20 S t. a t e of Oregon was alsa present ;t that acetinj, dnd thc 4
21 la te r venu r s were invited
>ut dia nat attend.
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'.i a are in tue process of preiating all of the 23 information t ha t's aentioned on this list shich Mr. Jray S.4 handei out aad has read into the record.
Den thouj h it's 2b only al i pitl y zaa ru t.han one paje Litijle spaced, the uwtca a huac a r
n,
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h1 i n f a t u.a t i a n t h a t ' s r o u i r e., is extensive cru ': o e s rc piite a
J great d e. c l of colculaticaa anJ an al ys e s, but se are.arkinj c' n d
- v. e expect to oc able to incluue all of 3
very dili;enti) 4 tot in f o ra a t io n r>.: y u e s t e d of the Etaff in aur testimony of
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L matun 17 and we ere cert.ainly worring very hard to tr y to ac ; a i,,1 l u h tina t.
7 l'o e v.> ara ha s the s t a t u..;
of unrecolved i t e.a s.
I J
uijnt j u,t oriefly point out the in f o raa t ion t ha t' d r 3 9 u : ' t.e J l
J ur tha t's referrt j tu in thia list r e l i.t e s to the structural i
10 asequacy af th; tacility, aainly the aa t te r u that were
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il diucu ; ed in hection 5 at tne !!afaty J/aluation teart.
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2 Tocre ara s p r i n k,l ed t h r a u.j h > u t the Safety Evaluation O
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.se pa r t a nuaber of othat itcos u:wre tha Jta f f did not reach is a final c>nclusion or iiadu certain r e c o.wm nd a t i o n 3 Which we
': intend ta cover tho;c Lind s 91 Ib are currently revissinj.
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13
...a t t e. r u in tae L e c t i.iaa y v, e file Karen 17, also did not h Fv e 17 the a ie sind at s i g n i f i c t.nc e of the st r uc tur a l ajeauacy 1L
. u z a t 10.15.
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19 in a y ore a l t. o..ithin the ha f e ty Ev al ua ti o n c;e-art
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20 nuaact at c a na i t i o n:; which the ':ta f f haa p r o po s ea included O
21 sitnin th.
authorization that tho Mcrt outnariz
-- if the
.i 2 haald autnari us the r tod 1 L 1ca tion prograa to nroceed.
Mi tu 23 tuaue conjitionb, there are a nulber of 7 ajestions or f)
A revisions that we are considerinj soae of which ne -- most of 25 Which we have discunaed with the fi t r # f.
dut a*j a in, tnat vill o
d a d Y ( hl
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hl be r e tl ec ted in the filing ue will ake on march 17.
2 Tnat tu basically the licensee's efforts witn
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3 respect to the Safety r.v al ua t io r$ ae po r t.
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L could, 11 tiw board wishes, identif y additional
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.aateriais that ae have s u bn i t t ed since the last tinto with j
6 roupect to the Control Pu11 ding pr o ceed ing.
7 on lebruary 13, 1900, a subr.itted a nu>aber of
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d respo nse s to requests that the DMC Sta f f had c.i ad e d u r i n j the L
vaak of January 25, 1930.
This W.a u the in f o rmd t ion that wag 10 received by the Utaff shortly before it inuued a Fa f ety
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11 avaluation Re po r t.
1 a test 2
'.) a tabruary 2L, 1980, we s ub:a i t ted a copy of 13 report fro:a the Civil Snjineerin) Laboratorieu at the 14 Jaiversity of sissouri.
Ta i s wa c a report that had been l
Ib reterred to in ;ur r eu pon ce to
,GC Question 'i da t ea September
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i ti 27, 1979.
17 Da 9 arch S, 1920, wr tr ans li t ted copies o f d rawin s c 4
1 lb SJ s 1,
2, 3 and t.
Thebe ar e d rawinc;s which show scue of t!ie 1
19 conutruc tion aetails in connec tio n wi ti, the n o;! i f i c a t i o n.
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20 Altnoujb I bcVe men tio n ed these materials aC beinj l
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21 provided to the blaft, they wre, of cotrae, providuu to all 22 of.the parties a nd to the board at the suae t iiae
3 C uA Ili 4 AN '11 L LS il :
M have a lict of those that we j
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4 are aware ot.
At n o.ae po i n t, I cuppose I wo uld lihe to c h e c !:
2S thase againut yo u r list.
3 dbb w dbik h id d[ NC N1
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,sl e n to do, dr. Chair]i;n --
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..ha t su 2
this may coae up later on, the Saae as
'N d id for tha in te r i"i 3
operations proceeding -- Le g1 Sn to provide an e.<hibit which a
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.ii l l contain Within it all of the infurtation that hdG b e t. a
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L u b.a i t t ed to the b l a f i..
/.nd we wo uld propouc that that j
's exhiuit be accepted inta ev id enc e the B a.:a way a r, the linilor 4
'au a c c e p t. e d inta ev id e nce in the l'h a ue 1 proceedinJ.
7 c4hibit
'id have in the record 011 J
had that via y we will be ture that 3
af the Iclevant infutiution that the btaff r el i ed upon that 0:av iv us l y the daard na s received and that the in w d aay alah 10 11 to tuly upan in t e ac h i n'j its decision.
UT [it4/c 41 L L': R :
Have v>u E i n i a'a e a en uca e r a t i n ; the O'2
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13 infor vition?
Le t a "now when yau have.
T2iere tr-m:verrl i f-14 se uon't d u e.-a ta liav e capi o, of.
he want to check t: )
1 iou In /e t n <.. i hei-at thiu tiae.
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1 L i n i:A. :!.. i t h r m pac t to the 17 cantrol p r oc e ed i n j,.
I nis jainJ to Jo an to discum t te ' i r. l l 10
.> r o !> l e. i.
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<t uinute.
Le t.ae Lee wh ci t ua 20 have.
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2l Ji<. scCOLL]t:
Tnere i t.
t,vo docu a en t:
t i c h I do 2.'
nat Luve o n:. I a.a s ur e tha ?la r cii 5th one iS an
- t. i w Cy to
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.;41 a ho i n.
I do not li v e that one.
And th?n thnre os ona 1
relerred to the conJitiotis of the Staff in the S L: h datu!
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aopte,aber 26, 1979.
O.'.e b
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', el l, we con certainl / -- we d an' t 2
aa/n Ony extr a copi e s he r e, u n f o r t um.i t '.' l y --
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3 Uk.
A,c C O L L O-1 :
That one, J.jueas, will have to be --
4 you can r e pl ac e tM t one, Iaa Juro.
N enow or other I just
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5 Go nat itav g it.
The m> r c h 5th one 9 probably arrive.
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If yo u 1ihn, I will get an tex t r a anu.
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7 he are only five or si/ nl oc k s a mt y f r o: 4 the Portland General
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d c;1 ec tt ic headqua r te r s and 1 a :q., u r e de can pr ov id e it after the,1uncheon recess.
- s IV ClLTIW4AN 4ILLM:
Yau nay proceed.
11 4 ll. A XC LRAi):
bith respect to L1:R 7 915, thu 2
ao-called wall problea, since the last u.encion of the hearing
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13 a n Dec esd>c r 2d onu 29, the various items of in f o r;aa t ion which l t, exist what I vauld l i l.e to do is just lint all of thea.
Ib Joao se orijinated, uo w are s ta f f.-o r i j ina ted and :iig ht bu
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16 useful to the naard La have all this in f o r.aa t io n.
17 ua Dec emb e r 31, 1979, we wro te l e t t e r :, Lo the Staff 1
10 und to Lite baard provid in J further inf arnation concerninj
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19 LI;d 791b, aaa that saute d a t.e we received a letter from the 20 BC iM.j i u n 5,
shich wa s the l e t te r whic h aut:io t i zed
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21 t e a u.splion o f our opera tion.
22 l'n en in accordance with the c omn i tm e n t :J that were 23 c a u ta i n ed in uur December 31, 1979 letter, there are five 4
lettern wh i c h we sent to the
.'! t a f f providioj additional 25 iniotaation during January and 1~ e h r u a r y.
One wa s d a ta d acovtca 4 uuneu i
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3461 1
3 hl Janu6ry 9,
196') a nti contained s m pl e c a l c ula t io na.
The ne<t j
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uas dated January 10 and co n t a i n e't confirmatory in f a r. la ti o n 3
rejardinj S t r e s ', 2 0 in the Wallu due to thetaal JredientJ.
4 inen there va u a letter d a t o ri January 31 </ i t h r es pe c t to
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b t r /4 n J V e r a e stresc in the Walls d ue to iqLerstory 5
G i ;.> pl c c em e n t s t e ll ec t ing that those were belos D31 and a 7
letter dated Lebruary 9,
19L0 re flec ting that transverse
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d sheur s t r e r,6 is due to in te r s to r y d i s pl ac eta ea ts are belou o 9
vul.
And a letter da ted February 15, 1)do with respect to 10 interface sheer stresses.
11 M.
then received the lctter dated February 22, 1930 2
f r o:a the NiiC Stall containinj it's S Ell s ubj ec t and the Dr.
O 13 Calvile ib po r t.
14 On Lebruaty 29, 1930, W2, lic eanue ' 0, sent letter.3 15 to the NRC a nd the daard with respect to the Dr. Colvile D
16 Nc[ ort.
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17 Ja
. orch 5, 1930, se sent a letter to the TLC 19 regardinj llc r e s ul t s of additional te s t i n :] wa had done to
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l 19 determine the u ter.t o f nor ta r fill.
1 10 C il A li(1A N 41 L LL!l:
Pardon 30, what was that d a te?
O 21 S ii. TW: LRSC:
March 5, 191i o.
Th a t in probaaly a l
22 letter </hich you nave not yet received.
That pertained to
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1 23 the ad d i t io n a l testing that was done to confirm the extent of O
.4 aortar till in the double block aaaonry walls which had V2/IT 25 atrennes greater than 7. 5 PGI.
And then on. :a r c h G,
- 1930, 2
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'd, J V 1 C i i a.iaZ YC l:1
3 /. fi7 1
there ia u a letter to tha,mc wi th an a t t ac ilae n t entitled, i
2 quote,..asonry couvressive st r eng th ( l' priue M).
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Wod, tnot cota ple tes, to ay knowledje, the additional l
4 i n fo rn.a t i o n w have sunittea to the Otaff.
I aijht po i n t S
out tnat with respect to this shor t-t e r u testing projran that G
the Utaff referttd to be fo r e, we cre settinj that up.
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will be performinJ a d enionst ra t ion run to assure that the set-
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d up that wa ha v e in aind will be suitable to pe r f o rn thc test.
9 at tnat time that will c robably oe done toaorrow and we will 10 anticipate assuuing that the setup is acceptable that we i
11 co uld c ou pl e te the sho r t-te rn te s t i ng projram in a co u pl e of l
12 aa e b.
O 13 I aig h t adcitionally point out that we also did meet 14 with the Statf a nd Dr. Colvile with respect to these raatters 1b on abrch d, the day after we act on tha S im.
15 On. McC0LLD4:
I don' t have the respanse on the i
i 17 Calvile Re po r t. d a ted teoruary 29.
18 14 R. AXdLRAD:
It's nqt really a r e s I'.io n s e.
I t ' n, 19 ju3t an indication tha t vie wi l l be pr ov id in 1 a r e s po n s e.
2L l t '.3 a very short letter.
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21 Ud.
NC C O L LO '>1 :
Tnen if it doesn't have material 22 in f oI;ta tion then you oon't have to supply it.
i 23 AH. AX d lim D :
40, as a Matter of f act, we are I
d e v elo pi ng soue 1,reliminary information r e b po nd i ng to Sone of 25 the aatte r s 'rc ised in the Colvile
'w po r t including same i
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1 u i v.; u a n i a n a OL hir dauwptiaan a n:4 Jalculatloan ralle: Lina
<> u r Jies4 on that an' u s h 'a u l d ae,andinj Lnat out t o a v ur D
3 t c.a o t r.) w.
I t. ' s a lt e of thu thinja s wn ] the nany thinj.. which 4
de are su r e;i n J on ii s t ul t.:': t f o tuil y.
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b UR.
scCO LLD 1:
A nt havs the u r> r c h b or
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March 6 reportb
- t. h e t yo u J im t
'l yd. P:'n t i o n e d.
7 ih. aXdLn\\u:
i m '.cf, We Jan nake iure that
.a hcVe copi: u af thasu tur yo u..i f t e r lunan re;ean.
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I alco don't have the r o t ;a r t dat H 10 Ja te. it er 17, 1?79.
T. ; o Licen: 2>'
r es po n se, you d la n ' t r e c."
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11 it.
LL'.,
in L a t.
<:a n;i i t io n s that the 9tafL got in their
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g r.; eo n.c J Conditions to the B i,d.
It's the L i c ', n S e e r e L po n.v
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13 La Jrej]n in a lut ter datEi aupt?maer 17, 1979.
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14 G.
Ahd Lii AD:
iaose at e r e b po n s, ', to Ib in te r r o ja ta r ie'.
that
.o; h ul received trom thc m t. a t e.
If you 1
o n' t have t! a L,./ 0,, i l 1 ba J la" to.:i n k -
tn >se a v a il.?)1 n.
L 'i Dn.
n.; C U L L e a :
Tne puint i: that the Stalj u i. put lo LilJ.1
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- t. ( i l pr')p01 C0!>lition ad 1 j u 'i t r i o n ' t.
LU u t h ! C r > L il li...
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nr a.au:
1 ovierotano, sere trytn; t,
.2rve M1 CV C r j OD.
Ub tbdb b i. 60 24 Sia t sv Q il 1.J } s t
"!O, db l oll j 65 pOu Urd O il t !id t.
303)CCt, 2J
.>lnC2 tile r d a pa n ;..a to intericjalorieb art lentioned in the D
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.13m< in=1no eur r es-ms..
,,rere,
.b til e 1 C il i n C1 Ub d b rdUponh,O b9 ]Ud.)bionha bad tbdt
.N f[
s'/ d Vi1l j
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... p...
O u u v is..a t<
2. V.. i m.. I I
3 t. r a j
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h1 aake sure that all --
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2 C U \\ I R 4 /-
. I L Lif t :
Haw aany pa:Je3 are su speakinj of?
3 4H. M.0 L iR D :
I an not sure.
, hat we are Jo i trj to a
do -- we are goinj to pr od uc e on taa sideu a f. a mn e, that
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b will at laast cut the nunber of pages in half.
I must cduit O
1 don't believe we have a cho ic e to the extent they are 7
( pa u s e)
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Jiln l.il AN slLLdR:
IA> e n the Staff inteno to put ln
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one 1.l a c e, in one d oc u.aent, nowever lenjthy it aa y be, the 10 various conditiona which it is ju oposing to put into the 11 license?
be find it a li ttle awkward wn m we have to to on 2
to different docuaents in r e s po n se the interrogatories.
Do e s
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1) the S t a l f.
intend to d evelop one particular docunent?
l 14 AH.
GRii Y :
Yo u : teen Lake the Licensee's responce to lb tau interrogatorias L. n:3 those por tionc o f that which we are J
16 r ec oaua e nd i ng puttin) in to onu c l oc ura e n t?
17 C Hli l k;-l A N 41LLUH:
Yes.
10 4h. M A'i:
<le can.10 that.
I aclieve that thu S E.1 l 'J daen -Jonerally uo that for the ria nt part.
But as to those 20 parLions tnat are not clear fron there, we can add those all
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21 inta one d oc u.:t e n t.
22 Dit. ?lcCOLLO1:
I 'j u a s s, ur. Gray, my concern la by 23 the Liae you nave jane throuln all those in te r r o j a to r ies here, D
e/
wi I
a, no t sure you have a consistency.
Iw! it seeas to ma 2, b that tha t ou Jiit to be resolve 1, par tic ula rly when you are dLOVICd 6 HV3 YC GI
3570
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hl talkinj abaut the condicions you are going to 1.:. po s e in the J
license itcalf.
I haven' t
~J o n e back anc read tnrou jh all of
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J t h e.a, but you uid accuiulate all except tae ones that I havu i
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4 tnere, o n ;l the utack was -- ;1ust have beca 10 or 12 inch?s
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S nijia, and 1 think that would be very confucinj to have that l
G as pa r t af the conditions o f the 1icense.
7 C t!A L H'iAN llLLUa:
shen does the Sta f E believe that
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3 it coulci have a consecutive d eca r i pt io n of the variou3 9
co n:ij ti..is it intends to put in the license?
10
-1 H. UnAY:
Just a minute.
11 CU41wiAM 'ifLLER:
Surely.
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1R. CMY:
4r. Cha ir aan, could we
- J v e yau an
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13 ans,ser on that a little uit later, possioly after the recess?
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l 14 CUAlw4AN vi! L LS k :
Sure.
lh
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.ie will jo into that and 'J ive the Utuff an
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16 appartunity to consider aftar tne recess.
At such Line if i
l 17 they nave in f o r:aa t io n, you can put it in toe record for us, 18 4r. Gray.
10 CHAIHyAN -11 L LJ ::
'I r. /a c1 r ad, nad you conclude 1?
1 20 14 0. /UM L uA D:
Ye s.
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21 CHAla6AN.4ILLUR:
Da ta anya ne else have any 22 Inforaation to put in the record at this time to up date the
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23 status of the in to riaa tional dato v/h i c h we considered at the
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Si en; oc xceaber oc 1 m ?
noes anyone else have anytninj to 4
2s rem o ue.
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eavICua avucu
3 t. 71 D
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UafR','0Uh:
cir. Chair;wn, the State o[ Orejon 2
Liled in te r ro j a to r ic a date1 1 aruary, li n t; the ':t a f f 3
co n.;e t n i n j certaia aubjectb in ths S L ti.
^no I think t ua I
r e.; p a n s e Li:ie to those interrojetories i t.
'/ery near aqi
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i; n a ali' t oeen r ec e i v ed yet.
a C ;i i lii'q A N
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h h.e n an t ars t iT i l er l ?
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1ubruary 28.
D M
C h a l s q '.7 91LLeu:
Nr>ruary 2 'i.
'9 ii;. DRAY:
Ar. Cha i r.aon, I believe the r e s pa a se ta 10 that is -! ue sarch lb.
Ta a s.e r e i. po n s e s o/ill be sbnittu/J on 11 t h a c.
- 1 a y.
2 CnA Ui-i AN 4 I L L.J.R :
%ile we are here, eie did want to D
13 tase up oll pending motians.
If there are any actions which l
14 w a ul a he filed W anyane, you iioy prescat thaa o r all y today lb ur t o :io r t a w so we can tr y to resolve all uutlaas fild are 0
16 incipient because this is tha lest,acetinj b e f?> r e
'a u Jo to l
l '/
the evidentiary hearira.
he hcVe the in te r rop to r ies.
la araujat tha.a along j o: t to Oc sure if there
</a r e any O
11 questions
've Wadla ;> t oole to take theu up.
.: o bafore
,ia 20 canclude thase aatterc,
,/o ul t.
yo u l>1 e a se --
C 21
,.H.
A /,a L M U :
Mr. Chairman, I did aca' to coation l
22 that Drejon's atatement reminded 'le that thert is come 23 additianal material abich s-h e,v e filed during the -- since o
a w4 tne lent he a r i n.).
25 Ci\\ lit 4 A1 41 LL.il:
Wauld yo u 'lesc r ib.
that for th'
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recoru, pl e a se,
r.
Axelrad?
2 AK. AXSLRAO:
Ye s, on January 15, 1930 --
3 CtR1hMN "ilLLCH:
l'ebruary lb?
4 4R. AC LRAD; January 15, 3930 in accordance with C
b the Boa rd's d ir ec t ion to uc at the hearin.j of Decenber 23, wa G
did reapond to Intervenors' interrojetory No. 4 on security 7
Jated November 14,
'79.
On Feoruary 29, 1980, we filed 3
d Licensue's s u;;p l emie n t a l re s po n se s to interrolatories f r o;i the 9
Utute of Orejan.
It was an u!xia t i ng of previous r e s pan nes we 10 haa suba i t t ect.
/ud also on l'ebruary 29, 19 %, we filed
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11 Licensev's s u p pl e::w n t al r e s pon se s to interrojatories from tho
'2 intervenors.
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13 That completes the additional unterial.
I might j
11 just sujgest wi tit respect to the noard's stetement, the Board'c 1
15 cnairu, statement, that additional motions aljht he filed 1
Q Lojay or tonorrow, that In the interest o f ma k i ng sure that 1/3 17 se have ad equa te time to deal with any actions that anyone 13 may wish to 1: 11 e, it uight be useful if t.hos e na tions co uld
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19 nc id en ti t l ed t ig ht now.
Obv io u sl y if anythin] elt:e cones up f
20 in the courac of tha hearinj today or tomorrow that leads to l
t) t~ e n, but le 21 i:-id d i t i o n a l
..t o t i o n s sa coula deal with those n
l 22 aljht be u s e l. ul to assure that we don' t Jet anythin; at the 23 last nii n ut e without sufficient tiac to r0 Solve it be
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m.n a t i es r 1.L _.
25 C;i A I B. 4 AN at I L L d1:
I think that's rearonable.
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usovich a no m i
, s.,, 3 r
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hI he hc/u heard now ei the r cou plete or.; ub s t a n t i e l 2
co.a pl e t e updatinj of toe record in reference to the J
proced urea which have been filec since your laat prehearinj 4
co n te r a nc e.
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5 Are there any actions o t h.e r than thoco which I
-hich either G
previously described ~.. e had received in writinj w
7 had been filea or will be filed or are there any art.1 uotions
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3 aayone i n t e nJ.:. t o..ia ku prior to tne evidentiary hearing?
9 4R. 00111 AN D MI :
1r. Chairn3n, the EC Staff 10 J uj jec ted in i t e, respance t.o our interrogatories would be due il on sarch 18 6ad those interrogatorleG relate ta taattors that 2
a t t.
currcntly raquire3 tu ha/o our tes t i:aony filed on 4arca
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13 17 snich slaulu put u:3 in the posi tion o f havinj to file 14 testinony on the day before We receive the in f o rsaat ion that 15 se tutok is nece.anary.
l 16 CR\\1R MN IILLUR:
-h a t waa that surjection that the 17 Licensee acae as to segaentin3 the filiro of proposed written i
10 te u t io o n y't
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19
.ii. Ah s LaA D:
Ye s,,ii t h respect to :aa t t 2 r u JU
.;rtainiaj to ; t.r uc t ur al wl, quacy, se i n j ica t e:; that since w2
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21 sould lm f i l i n ;i in f o r.aa tio ri recpondinJ to the opaq i tu.a s la 22 the Siii un s tr uc t ur al adequacy on Nbrca 17 that Would bu 23 useful if the Uta f f and the state have until narch 25 to file 4
their testiracay au s t r uc t u r al ad e g r.c. c y.
Therefore, if the 25 S t 4i f f ' s tespans.a are due sqa r c h 10, if an eEfort i n.;i n " e to dEDVICU R O Z 'lC K I u
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1 and ut e the State receives that on or about that d.ata, then 2
the State wuulo utill have an additional ueven ar eijht days 3
- efute i t.
had to file its testimony on s tr uc t u r al aucquacy.
6 Vith respect tu all other natters, we lidn't see any
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b reason why all earties could not pr or ip tl y file their G
testinony on that suuject on Ma r c h 17 also.
My p r i nc i pl c 7
r ecollec tio n 01 toe State's inte r ro ga tor ies are that they
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d deal pr inc i pall y wi th at r uc tur al ad equacy ma t ter s and that
'd thereCote tnere pt obably would ue no reason why the C ta te lo intended to file anythinj other than the testimony on 11 st r uc t ur al edequacy.
They can co that Siarch 17, alco.
O'2 CdAld1AN MILL 8d:
I understand two of the
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13 intertojatories are not on s tr uc t ur al adequacy.
14 Ali. OS TH M4 DU d :
That'u correct, Mr. Chairman.
LS C h A lit iA il lI LLCR:
It s as to those two, then, we S
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16 will have no pr o bl e n.
.17 AR. tG TH A N Dr; R :
It wo ul d n' L take long, theee or ld to ur extra days.aijht do it.
19 An. GRAY:
9r. Cuairoan, I think as to thoqe not 21 r e l a t ted to s tr uc t ur el adequacy, we c a uld hope f ull y file those
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21 If r id a y,
we are Joing to be a day or no gettia) back to 22 hashinJton.
Ana I think se could, in fact, telocopy those 23 anssers to Or e j on suc h that it wo uld receive those Fr li; a y.
4 CHAIMAN HILLL:R:
All r i'J h t, that, I think, wo uld be 25 helpful if the Staff could do that, i
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If tuu sta te s ho uld need an otra three or four days, gl 4
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,/o ul d inculjt then ta that extent, c e r t a i n l 'y.
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uJ W A q ui:H:
Thank you, ar. Chairtan.
4 WI4%1 11 LIM :
Any other 'iotions or jrospective
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.a a t. i o n s ?
An ybod y huvo a n i t.h i n 3 l u r k i n>J in their ainl3.
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Very well, we sill tal.*
it we have aeryt nin j belare 7
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l d
I s u ga r <
that the :Tation for a su mary diopasitiori i
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uijnt sell be the ne<t s ubj ec t of inquir y unle:m s o. i e a n e l
10 uebires a d i t' f e r e n t o rd er.
11 Tne :.io t i o n for su aa g r y c' l s po i. i t I J n WUS fl16d by the l2 Licendue on Lebruary 7,
1930, and houjht au n aar y di s pasi tian G
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13 in 11ccnser " Favor with respect to coalition fo r po we r CFCP 14 c o n t e n t. i o na 3,
17, 20 and 22.
'w. e will taso t h e:a up seriatio.
Ib e naou that the U t :. f t has tiled re s po n se s to the uotion for O
LC Jua..ary dispositian as to all four.
14y recollection in that 17 taa first twa to the Jtaff concurred in tha vieuJ set fo r th lb up the Lictasee, t:.at is das. 3 and 17, and not the Inter twa, 11)
AC c a '. 22, the Statt at least in pa r t in its reLpanse f i l e-J 20 s o.a e o b j ec t. i o n a t o.j r a n t i nii at thi: ti:ie at any rato a O
21 so. nan y of disposition as to tha w two in context, is that
.2 correut?
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'ui a t ' F :orrect.
4 CP.1RinN L41LLER:
he will taka up then, do.
3, first 21) of all, as tne uavinj Farty, dr.
A.< c i r a d, do you want to tell C
M J V l C 11 & 'WZ iC KI
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l h1 we have rend t he i, i;ut the record nhuuld, I thins, 3 i ve us 2
soae indications af the nature, both the con te n t io n and thc 3
baats or oases of yout action.
4 4a. Is C IJ t A P :
Fine.
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'.s nr. Cnairaan, I will ac pl e a s ed to take the.i up one l
G at a tiue.
I.ii j ht explain, havever, that in he untian that 7
se liled un February 7, 1980, the first seven praea was, in
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b edsence, jeneral n r j u.a e n t tnat was a,2pl i c a 51 e ta each of Lh9
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una t io n s, and then we included separate arjument and 1U uccuuentation wi t h respact to eaco of the motions, i n c l uri t d 11 oath our de acri gtlon o f our a r j u,nen t, the material facts as 2
ta unich
.m uelieve was kno wn to be heard, a riiscussion of
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13 the.. u b j e c t, pl us, of courae, the affiaavits u po n which wa 14 were rulyin i for pur po ses o f riisposi tio n of that pa r t ic ul a r lb cantention.
1 will nat L a r, e up nuch of the Baard's t i; te with
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13 reupact to t i r.
jenerrl arjuaeatation a., c o n ta i n ed in the 17 Iirst suvun p a.j e s, out I w r> u l d li ke to take just 6 co u pl e o f 10 oinucat t3 ja o v e. r tuat very u r ie fl y.
19 C hA l k ie.. : ll bliM :
Goon, tane your tiae.
You are JL all o w;:1 to, nr.
/v< c i t e d.
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As w.e painted out in our nation, an' 22 af tne basic ;; u r po Le a of the totality of the Ca: Eliacion's i
23 t ules wi th respect to the Ca niission's contentiont, in t,
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.4 d3aure that onl y Con tested ib30e, dhiCh involve 'iSputeS over 25 ma te r ial tacto are all o ste n to be al i ud ic a ted at an C
1 m vica s m au l
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t:v io on t lar y hear in j, t h a t, i.i shy the tejalationi require that
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contentionn be
,ta ted with upuc i f ic i ty and tra ne n,
.n y the J
rules provide for dincoverf, anj why the r ul e, allowe d for 4
Juw ury dicpo.illion.
And thabe are inutance;, ulen it S
5 becoaua a pparent t hett there LL nu Jenuine ialue of
- f. a c t, to be tried bulween the parties.
7 T h i a, via c, cle arl y recojnized by the board at the D
6 prehoorini confutence of Aarch ? !i,.1979.
The iM a r d at that i
J time admitted cantuntians which barely sotiafica the 10 r e,iu i r e: i e n t u for st a te.a ea t of contentions specifind in tha
'll tejuletiona uul clearly i nd ic a t ed its und er sta nd i n j t ha t 2
pr o pe r Glucovery wab nece:. mary to Lia pe the contentions into
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13 luiues suitable f o r l i t i:J a t i o n.
1 14 Ch6lWlh.
11LLCR:
Whal pa j e
>f thD t r FM;C r i pt ?
UO 15 you u la c tha t be fore yo u?
D 10 an. nea:
us, that u tronscript w a La m s.
17 in i a.i t, the Bo a rd taak jrcht j,a in s to inG Lr uc t the IU inLutVenora aL to how t h e y i/o u.i d !w 7fferin] full and D
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.woninjiul r a s pun :,' u to d i scover y r eque',t anJ specitically 20 warn liia t if t ! ve in tte r veno r (ild not ad equ a tel y c r* n ' v> nri to D
.t discovery relunut, the R.)atd on proper motion waald i n p; m.
22 Janctione.
Th a t wa s at tranuaript 312 3 t h r o u i h 3135.
23 Since contentiana were buinj ad:a l l t ed llDorally, D
G4 gendina tefin m nt throu;h the discovery procca, the y,ard ib c:x pl ic i t l y painted out that s u:a r,t r y d i a po s i t ion would be im D
n k,OVI C '.1
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h1 a,/alloble aechanica to be con ;ider ed prior to hearinJ.
Tnat 2
was at several pl a c e.; in the prehearing conterence includini 3
tranactipt 3019 ana 3037.
4 Tnere sure numerous Na^ precedents pointinj out that
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5 a motian for s u..i,a ar y d i s po si r io n is tne appropriate uec h ani s.a 6
to tesolve wh e t t ra r a questionaale contention is suitable fo r 7
litijation and that tne aere fact that a contention oay be
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b nw r J inally acceptable does not neces:;a r ily uean that the --
9 tnat it should be tried and that Section 2.749 o f the 10 Co.-ta i u s i o n ' a t e.j ul e tio n is thc :a ec ha n i an that should ac used 11 to test wnether tnere is a.j en u i ne issue to La heard.
2 It is, of course, the duty of tha novin) party, tne
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13 Licensee in this instance, under Section 2.749 to deaanstrata 14 t h e. aosance of an'/ Jenuine issue of not'erial fact.
Anyone 15 wno opposes a in tion for cuamar y disposi tion does not have to D
16 ahow thar ha sill prevail on the issue at trial, but he do a, 17 nave to indicate and ahaw that. there 10 a genuine issue that JU r e,a c i a s to be heard.
19 In the ar j u:.iea t and d oc umen te' i o n that we pro v id ed 20 with o ur mo tion, and whien we will discuss with respect to
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21 cach cont.untian as we take them up seriatia, we have 22 a t t t.a p t ed to show and we believe we have t ully met our burden 23 even of d e:a o n s t r a tin g the absence of any genuine issue of
,aa t e r i al fact.
Au I have i nd ica t 2d oefore, not only have se 7
t 25 provided a statecient of the f ac ts as to wh ic h thore is no D
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h1 1 sa ve to ue heard, but in tiw affidavita, e i.ovo provided an 2
afiirmative presentation with reng:ct to th nulij ec t utter
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3 of e ach can tention.
4 And in our arjumentation auj < h> c tra e n t a t i o n, we hwe
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atteaptu! to deal with the 1i.alted information that
.m hM s
G availa21e with r apoct to 'Nt the inter enorn coujht to be 7
tried in sach i n c t o nc e,
nu want throujh the prehearinj D
J conterunce record t2 atteapt ta discurn sha t thc in te r veno r.>
t h a u., u t Lae contention twant.
Y,e wuit throujh the reap >nse; 10 that they LileJ La interrojatories of the bicana:2 and t h.e
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11 GtcLL, and s3 attoapted to deal with thoac.
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I unut aduit that in crJuaent, it', a little
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lj tii t l i c u l t at thia point to :J o m uch tur t her ulnce the 10 interverro:a never responded ta the uotion for nuunary 1
15 Jiapanition, sa atill d o n ' t' know untther or not any of the D
I f, ia f a ria a li a n we aave filed deals with clearly the aatters tuuy 17 had in minl or shether there were atner aspect! of the ware aelinj to have litigated.
13 contention antch tij e y 19 Their f ailure to file ans wor n to the notion for 20 u u:am a r y d i s po s i ll1> n under the tu.'
t e j ula tio ns ueanu tin t they j
21 have ediil t t ed the tact > that we have i ncl ud ed in our notion -
D in our o f l i d a v i t r, that wre a t. t a c h e d to tha aotion.
l 23 In ordter to avoid a Jrantinj of toe notion for 4
a b ala u r y d i u,:o s i t io n, the in te rveno rn wo ula Nwe oeen required I
>b Lo pr esent factb in proper f.o r u, not junt
' ome unsubstantiatua, I
i ancauwuma
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h1 unlevati suJ concern al ta rospect
- t. a subject utter.
2 A.; I -, a y, ;inge t ! v.,- Taven't te,panded to tw
.;t.>o 3
at 611, it ia uifficalt to g o > i u '. 4 L ur t t.er in that re3euct.
4 In nny event, that 1.
th
';a s i c vim of the Liceade.
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S as La the purpase at J un,iL:r y d i s ba n i t ion in.jeneral and the 7,
r ua sa n.
ci f in t h i., particulot pr o c e e ! 1 n -j in liejht of th-7 intervenar's f a il ur e to a J eijua te l y r e s po nd to interrojataries l
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cu a, vf cour..e, tuoir fla i l u r e La rma:r! to toe. lo t io n for J
inmat y d i a,a o L t ian at al 1,
.ty J uu,ia r y d i a pa s i t i o n,so uld t2e ape aprlate certainly in at luant une at th'>
four 10 r
ii C.; n t c o t i a a.s which.. e irc joinj to b e d i :,c ut s 114 9' ?
Julecs the bard sa ul d 11 & to a.# any tucationa
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13 oich respect to the reneral approacq, I wo uld then jo un ta 14 the first of the Laur conteation:.
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'i h e iir. t contention tor whica r e que n t e'l s u r iar y D
L f, a i.;po c i t i a n waa Coalition for oate P.; u e r s ' contantion la.
3, 17 tn it cantention au c o:ii t t e; at the preheerinj canference at 10
. i c> r c n c),
1979 an.i ac,earin} in tai r e :o rd et transcript 3019 LJ r3aJu., s L a l l y.:s :
, ro p~a t H wJificationct in 20 "i'l a n t Ucati review of
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/.1 in o:le iuo tc to a s n, u r e no violations of tec hn ic al
.22 Jr cifications vi 11 occur.'
23 It's ing,rtant to note at the outnet toe nerro, 4
copa af the losu-r a i.ned hy tnis contention.
") s n t h e.
f-a a r d 2b questianed dr. Rosolie, C i.R ' J re pr e sen ta t ive at the proh-arinj D
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<r i s ' 4 Y.L %.,1 t
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Vol
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hi conference, wi th r e ts pec t to t Me intent of the contention, dr.
2 itoualie r e a*! e.;injle sentence irun !/ 3 F: 1020 waich staten, 3
quate, "uechtel Con s t r uc t ion sta r k glans will no review 2d af i
4 the pl an t atatt to insure that nod i f ic a tio n wo r k will not
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S violate Trojan tecnnical specifications."
'i doth the wo rd in ; of the contention an:t the source 7
f ro:n whien the intervenorn task the contention makue clear J
O that tne scope and ad equacy o f the pa r ti c ul a r revice, af the 9
in c k pl ans by the plant staff shich he been r a i n ed by CPSP lb is very l i:a i te d.
It 's onl y the review tha t's done by the 11 Stati to ass ure that the,to r k will not violate Trojan j
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'2 technical upecifications.
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13 C h il nyuT N *lI L L E K :
Whose S t a f f.?
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The plant statt, ahicn is a Statf of.
lb the Licensee
.t the pl an t.
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16 i'ney are not raisinJ n contention with roupact to 17 any of the aany other reviess which are done in connection 10 alta the.aod i f i c a t io n work by the Licensee, such ar reviaaa 1) of the adequacy or effectivenasa of the inodification design j
20 or une ua fe ty eval ua tion of the mod i f ic a t i o n or tha re/ iou af 21 c um pl i a nce with quality Lasurance requireacnts.
It's only i
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one of the limited reviews -sh i c h in done by the pl a n t staff.
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23 hhat we have done in the information that we nave I
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pr ov id ed in the afflaavits and a rg umen ta t io n in to infora tha 2L i.lo a r d as to exactly how that l lui t ed plant staff rbview 10 O
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1 o c c oJ6 pl i a h uu and s:iy it's L ully a aple to cae e t necessarf 2
vla j e c t i v e s.
3
.u e are provided t w']
affidavits, one by
'r.
",n d e r s a n 4
JE pechtel, Who iG thO U n'J ineCriny iaanajer, Whic dOScrlhea
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b the liaited ourpases of tlu:r work,'>1 a n s wiicn will be pr epa t ed O
Lur each tar dithin tut.u cd i f ic a t ion pr o j r c:. and the d e t a i l :i 7
<i. n i c h t ho t;u 'ork plans /ill contairt.
J In audition, we are provided an affinavit by Ar.
J no t.i t, iu a l',
/no i; tau L i c a n ".m e ', j e.t e r.'l *ic.ni J e r of 10 the irujan plant, who describen e<actly shat the plant u t a f f. ' J 11 review of the conut r uc tao n wa r k entailu of the wo r k plans, J
coacints ut.
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.s i t no u t gettinj into those nutsj ec ts in toa much 14 Jetail,,i r. Ander son's a f f idavi t describes the 11 ai ted 15 purpado of the so r L plans which will bc pr e pa r ed for each D
li task within the raad i f ica t ion prvjraa, and he eq;1aias ex ac tl y 17 aaw that is done v/i t h i n Sechtel, and ho w it ic then s u:>a l t t e d l
la t.o the Licenaue lor his review.
D 1
l Ar. Yondt ex pl a in u +ow tne plant staff review is 19 i
20 per f o r aen by tne plant quality assurance aupervisor staf[.
D 21 de e x pl a i n s nw the revieweru are pa r tic ul arly sui tt a ay D
virtue of their qualifications and other respannibilities to satisfactory Cashion and ho w if t h e.
23 perform that ruiew in a D
G.A need arines they can call on others within PGE for assistance.
25 Ana both ur. Yondt and 6r. Mderaan disc uss how if the revieu D
JuJVICU v HU4 Yd K 1
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h1 snich is done discoveru any con flicts uetween t i.e work plans l
2 and the tecnnical spe c i f i c a t io n for the planc and
' u r r.
plans will be 3
aoainistrative proc ed ur es, ticc h t e l ' s 4
cnonged to assure that there are no vialotions.
b Our a r j u,ae n t.a t i on also i ncl ude d our discussion ol 6
acute a t: the itens uentioned by the intervenars in responses
'l to in t.e r r o J a to r ie s.
I do n' t p ro po se to :J o into that becauce
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d I au no t sure they will still be arg uin ; thase asp. cts, and I wo uld pre f er to wait unJ see if there is an yt h i r. J that we LU raiaed that we have ta answer.
11 I would just po i n t out that in one of the responses 2
to the interrojatories, CFfm did ad m i t that it doesn't
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13 hulieve that there i s any par t.ic ul a r c i rc ums tance s relatin) l 14 to t.he :aod i f ic a tion pro j ram abich will ra a k a it d i f f ic ul t to 15 deteraine whether a technical specification aight be violated.
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16 And it does se eta to us that the review of the n o t.u a l work l '/
plans is a r ela t iv el y 3 'ia pl e matter.
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?ie have ara pl e proc ed ur e s, oath wi thin B:chtel ta
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L9 develop the work piens, and we have a plant utaff tu review 20 the work plans, and it appeat s to us that the contention la
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21 ta tally devoid of any material issue of fact shich wo uld neel
,! 2 to be litigated.
,a have id e n ti fi ed in the argumentation 23 doc u aen ta tion with respect to t.his contention that bejins in 4
the,aiddle o f Pa j e 1, the niddle of Pa 3 e 3,
the specific 25
.aa t e r i al tactn aa to which we believe there is no genuino wn c o a az. va n
yus 1
190ue to Uu heard, but t h
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aro in front af t b., jartiu,.
1 aun' t uellove thrre vauld be any pur )as t,
oy rew!1n j thao 3
of Ultbor'alAfrj u p o:i thto.
4 Ci!3.19 alih i T LL' :t :
no aili hear f r o'i thu o n.a.1 i t a tM
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inter /vaura in r es pan w to Lne,va t i o n for.; u:a.or y d i s p a a l t i o n
'lo.
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of,our conteation i
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Mr. Oiairman, in that filln i re vonae
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I se realize that i t.
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- t. ) N L.aution Lo a umu.r y d i a po ',i t i o n,
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.n ial.aln', ion >> f Llac f a c t.:,
in
- t. h e es. '
an>l t !i i t t!io : )ard i
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1J uould r ul e Ln 1avot o' i'a r t 1 o n ! Genor al Liectric, af L i,' n r
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contentions !,a a v un a
.m felt t a t ue 11 Yae reason wo r a i t;a d th i u s tie u
- t. ii a l the li> a rd uh>uld con n iti er, o ne at thia point, 2
,w r e
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lj se tool that it Lie-noord still feels th ce i s,nu-s 're i4 li i p.; r t in t ut Laer*
aI ptuLLi:in-3, the B)ard can utill raine 15 tm ;o os i a c o c...
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s ir e tal Lin J now jult aaoJ) t h..
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17 unc i usue, o.
3, which la taitly narros, ; ir. iso olle.
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10 alli jive au an o th o r t uo l t j to o;tuall, have any fautual or f
o apinion dota or 1,uar otion,hich xo t e.... u.
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zu the util.ia/it.,, out Luo ciu e s t i o n it nol f a:. to th-re/im-/ of l
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u m. m h,ve myoim, m i
23 0 :.) Wills th9 ildC 3 tal l (..
[o L!l i t CV"nt, WO (io f i3 l:
t }iu l y ) 1 t
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on
- t. h e t.e hnical ha n i :. of r e i j v.) w ' i n J,
."t i c h p :) u ar>
n em m den te ~, de ge hm.
u 1, n m._ -u% ute u m: t u.u m:: u t
=
m a
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D A l ao a t tt u !,o u l d look on,
.s e are orepared t0 la sk at it.
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frankly at this ;o int, I d id n' t revi,a the r e :o rd 3
itsuit, with reJaru to your contention ua.
3, se don't really 4
ec c.n / t h i n '1 that aJ:ireciso it nince ti u se allowui in the
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S matter oi plumiin;.
Nuu we art d '> s r.
to the nui t t e r of shether 6
tht Jo u r d sh>ulo eith3r pe t.a l t yo u to ao forwara or pick it dan't r e al l y ';e e it.
>ut se aant. to Mnaw if 7
up i t. e i l..
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o t.h e r e is anythinJ 1000 that you ant to pr oben t.
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du. KulOLIL:
Nothint acte than.. e presentea in 10 retvanuu to interro atory.
.11 CitTId M lIhLU:
Va r y w 211, we think th:it there han 2
aeun i.a 5adstantiaLiun even u in iau"ml l y to aupport yo u r 3
1J contention :h.
3, nuc do we se - any und erl yin.j inaue> wh i c h Lq the aaard woulu consiaer in the aatters of,iublic neelth, l ';
safety, public interest, unich uw deel to oc aur overridin!
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ae nec none, we will therefore 1 rant the <iation for L7 a.ma r y diuposition as ta Ci'JP contention si a.
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take the ne<t contention now in the I.i ? 'a n _ *
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19 e.au t i o n for su:mu r y d inpa n i t io n, ahich is 'la. 17, I hallevo, y.i.
lC 21 mauld fau present yo u r couiLian on that, er.
tc< e l r, d '
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tasolio and ms.
acll to r e., pc> n d 23 to thu uerits.
are nat j o i n';
to diu.is because yau 4
haven't responjel.
m albh yo u havu, but it soll :aa y be that
.S fou don' t nave that in fo rmm t ion anico is a.t l right.
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1 antitled to raise.attera in the pl e au i n j izue3.
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pt doen to the hearinj, sa:a e t in e s you have in f a r:ia t io n,
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a c.ie t i.w s jau are raitin; un intuitable 'iue s t ion, s o -te t a" 2 a 4
you ar e nat.
W.:.till just tale tha r e c o r :) is it is.; e f a r e n3 i
aovinj party, dr. M e l r a.1, to ;rocee" today.
he will m 3
than, an N3.
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"Perfaraaace of ability af plant aperators 10 an od i li c a t io n work wi.
2 11 to r e a pc.. ) to Loy eact properly and thus pa ne n ua.uc 2
riSR S,
,e dul i c health cau satety."
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,w have J ubnt i t te a two if fid avits with respect to 14 this contention, one of
.or.
An'ie r son, which lescribes the l ';
wark to be pe r f o r..t ed an;I share it iG ta bc pe r f o r: ie.:, and D
IS what its iatential ini p,d c t iijht ae u po n acccus routa Lnd one 17 U y c4r. iunut u t-.a nst r a t i n j f ro a tne c t a n:: po l a t of tht pl6at id stal[ anJ their review Of the
.13 r l: to ae pt r f o rcied ani.<hcr2 19 it will oe perforued.
It will n]t Interfare With thu E:)ility 2U ol pl a n t operators to respond to en c ie r;j enc y si t ' a t ion 4
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or u.a p e r
- t. h e abili t y tD pli a t aperators in the control room 4
La r e aco na ta an e a e r.j e n c y.
we have reviewed soae at the litited D
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orjuacats that we ha/e been a b l t.
to find hoa
- t. h a intervenotu 7
either at L iie prehearing conference at in r e s,:a n se n to D
e have d i u :u.; a ed each of those in turn in J
6 interrojatatie'.
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tne d i.s c u s s i o n a.nic a a pp2ar: on P a g e :, 4 thraujh r.
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i t, the intervenara aave specific arJuaent that they wish to 11 taise, it daean't ueeu
- t. c ne to be u: >ful at tuis ti ae for me i
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to reuut th" i. r.j u w n t s which they my snow lonjer have.
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la woulu line to,oint eut one tit i n j with spect to -- I
,ia uld 14 like
- .o poitit out one thinI with r espac t t>
L u i :, coslaation.
15 in the o f f. i d ov i t.
thdt au pravloed by cir. Anderson --
D 1S C;i.,la ie SILLad:
cich paje 17
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Th0 is f f id a v i t oppears r itjh t after the 20 c c j u.a t; n ta t i o n.
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I nave it.
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ne to laan at?
23 qit. !O: ; Ld A U:
A.i y, an Pa 3 0 2,
para]rapu :s' a.
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.shich describes activities related to the modificatlan zb p r o j r u.a sill be pe t fo rued in the f o l l o 9/i n ] general creas of D
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t oZ i21;I l
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i the pl a n t.
And it lista each of. the crean of the
.liutt shere 2
wark w?n s joinj to ae done.
3 M of l'ebruary 7, 1970 s a -2 n thin wis suo.a i t ted t%t i
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tnia was f ully accura te.
And we contiaoe to t> e l i e v e that 5
su..aaty dim;osition Aaulo oe granted with respect to any l
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atentic.1 lapnct upon accea:: that any acrk in theue a r e.
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7 entail.
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o In tne course a f_
the cora pl e L i o n af the -- or the 9
continuotiun at the detaileo
- f. i n a l design work which wo hcVe 10 acen doinj over the ia nt ao n t.., it develops thin one l ia;i te a 11 area share tocto is warc beinj dane at a c o l uia n -- as the 2
daard may r e.; e l l, there in a will heinj o !d ed along col u an
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13 lina a ai the Control aulldinj above the railroad bay.
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11 nes a:i l l, vhicn is noinj ad ded to the east [ ace of the 15 Control dLildinj above the railroad ony will be tied into the
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- io r tn sall of tlw Ao4111ary Buildin; at Coluan hine ni 1G.
l7 ihat sors will av uone by ooltinj throujh the ndjacent wall 10 at tne M ;c il i a r / JuildinJ.
19 it d ev el a ped that th: to at
.a ) to acco a pli sh this
.! U sarticular warh
- v. 3 s to bolt through *he Auxiliary i'ui ld in j
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- Well, nhet that will r v.i u i r e iL that t h ur t-
% n oi s
.<o r k e r n 22 on tua atnur Side of t h '.: "a<iliary BuildinJ wall, na.aely in 23 tne Audiliury buildinj, in order ta sut in the arshers shen h
that Dolt joao throu!h.
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b a t. ii thane locotions nanel y at elevation
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- t. h e r e lo a aisle !n the iu d i l l ::r y i ui1> t i n j, an; the 2
wo r k..: r s aili he in that a i al s.
for toe liaitt
_ :o u.i t at ti m e J
L;.at.ii l l
.>t acua aary in a r '. c r to aolt the
.u s h" t J.
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i t i r> n o l
.n11 area.'tica is not 1
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in tbis aCfidcvit.
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s u j ] e.c t is t : ti. t the autior for "s u n a r y d i t socition ou j r :t m requested.
'e sill demaribe in the tantimony.. e file 7
w
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on aren 17 e x c.; t l ;
-aat t ii n <!ditiancl. t e ll a want
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. n t. t its i..i ent, 11 any, u.>ulo
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Gahian.
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1 l i; i s) the is u s il i a r y luildia; d nJ uld nOL prEVCat thU jrantinj d[
17 the,io tio n tot n.
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itig ht, a n-that to t'ic ext <at in our 3
Lu s t i; ion i filed on 'iatan 17, W e d e s c i i b C'i O n 't a.ditiooal
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or va t, of work wnich in to ae pe r i o r tod waich h; nat beca
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a liate. in the a f f i d a v i t., that to tne entent that anybuI k nata to taisa any <ia a u t io ns with re >;nc t tu inter!arence
'i with accesa
(:> r v.aerjenay ; >ur pa uv L that the grantin1 o! the
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,recluiu rolallI t1)n' t
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naos that concluje y.> u r orJuaent,
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Ye s, it don, tr. Chair: 19 n.
14 di A lhw 1I LLui:
Intervenor57 1b n.
Su:2 0 L1,:
l '1, I wauld bl.si c ul1 y r e, ;o t w:ia t I
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13 aaid cwout tue other c an ten tion, anu I viold al.o a.H rhat 17
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J.i e u n 1 Jon't [ind it r e tai u u r i n j end I
!Od'L thiUK t n*
h3drd Id s ua ulu i l nJ it reassurinj that baulcally the o al y inaurance 10 t h.a t wa are -j iv e n ia that the,orker v;ulu be talti t) no/c 20 in a certain case and at that point they will
.; u at>le to t iove
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21 the acterial
<n J t h e: n o l v e.,
out of toe oy.
m all i.n a s u ia t nappaa a vu o t i,ac :, in c.te r j e nc ies,
i"r> p l t-panic and la t h i n1'>
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23 tnat t h L' y n a ria.;lI 1 y d O G ' t dO.
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<0 W '.' 101 $ d /
till n ii SI) 6 icipo r t an t issue that tha Mourd shauld aMreuL it;olf to in 2b
=> a.a e Jetail.
l d ;.. J V I W i A Tw2 Y:i;I
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l cilAliind 4I LL1,n :
- k. ell, as a preliainar y ia tter, I 2
a.n not holdinj yo u to a very hijh threshald,
./h a t are the 3
facts or tua h y pa t he t ic al facts that you are concerned with l
e tnat yo u believe should cause us to rise to the dijnity o f a
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5 con tention, o f a disputed contention or issue.
'!b a t yo u say, 6
of courne, I s uggase could be said of any ;ind of work i
7 per f o r;ied la cny nuclear plant at any tiau.
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3 Ja yo u have anythinj acre c, pe c i f i c that is the c a u.s e J
9 of concern to you and those sho you re pre sen t or do you nave 1
l 10 an y -
./i t ho ut requiring yo u to put on evidence as such -- do j
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il you have anythinj further to put any:auscle upon tne bare 2
bones of yo ur pl e ad ed con tentio n that in un raer:Jency Pnple
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13 lose their heads?
Althoujh that is true as a jenere] mia t t e r,
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but normally a 1ittle
- a. t more than thal is ( pa u se) 15 4h. R O 3 a L I I; :
nell (pause)
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1 16 C ri,1;Di AN MILLER:
I believe in one af your 17 interrojatories, didn't you i nd ic a te that yo u had been out to 10 the pl an t -- sell, you had been out to the pl a n t o n,w r a than
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i 19 one occasion.
vid you have this.!ue s t io n in sind when yo u l
20 aere out at the pl e n t?
tre there so c.e aatters yau./i s h to 1
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21 Orinj to the Locru's ettention, or do you take any in 22 conuideration that t% r e is co 'i e t hi n ] al[ferent in the wo r l; 23 that is going on in this pl an t that wa ald :aa ke it aay
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A different t r o ut work being pe r f a riied in any other pl a n t?
Do 2b yau have sauething quasi specific in uind?
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I hl Ml;. 11030 L I C :
Yes, well, pa r t ic ul a rl y, when.vo r k er s 2
are in the cable spr e ad in'; roo~i and if a fire accurred in the
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- able spreading roca, the workers would have to Ica/e the 4
cable apreadinj roon and a fire brigade wo u l c have to jet in.
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b had it secas to ne after Crawlinj over those cables it a3uld j
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De difficult, dhen you have one perEon 'joinj one da y and one i
7 person joinj the other way 6nd one per6an trying to get out
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'd and t.le other pe r son tr yin j ta 'j e t in to stop the fi r e, that l
9 there cJ uld b9 5 3.le Con [uSion and Vdluable ti ae lost in that 10 confusion.
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i 11 Cil% Ict n M 'i l L L tMt :
Nes tha Jtaff have any l
2 o b s e r v a t i o n :.> that it Wishes to express with referen00 to tlid i
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13 ilo t i o n rejardinj contention 17?
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Nr. Cha i r ailn, not in particular.
I lb thin 4 we cia inef ic a te that We ajreed with the Li c en se e 's
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1G i,r e Je n ta t io n on this one, and uc Delieve that there would be 17 no accesc pr o bl m s as to wo r n identified.
16 C u.\\ I ri 41: MI LLi,R:
100 vent into noise and that k i rid
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19 of thinJ, I oelieve.
Did pu addresa the lalat nr. Ra.mlia 2G is ast.ertina?
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Par ticularly with rejerd to a fire in a 22 cable c ereadinj roca, that was considered by the Staff 33 re/ieweru ano I jueue a ce e to the concl u ;io n that ais t pl y D
6 the sorheru wayla be raquireo to who would oe actinj u n'i e r 25 J u;>e r v i s i o n soulL be re;;uired to step to an; side anJ allow
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u.av1cu s amt
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the lire bri gue to un te r.
And we did nut nac any mrticular 2
p r o bl e ni.
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Did
'a u sue anytitin 3
,a a r e sul t o f.
4 panic or thaue thin;b that 1 sui: pose are attenovu u p:> n in an
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a eaer'jency at a ra e character such as have occurred in 1 6
- uppoLu br 3wn's Ferry tire at Three Mile Lulnnd, cn1 thing 7
of dilIurent klads.
la there anythin1 that the
'it : t I ahauld f
9 re.juire cloJer e<aaination an?
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No, I don' t arlieve va did s ').
10 C l a IINU 4 I L LC.,:
I belleve Dr. eccollo.a has
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1 11 questions.
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th salie, in yo u r v isual i za ti an O'?
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13 at shal uljht occur, da you teel that there la so wthin!
14 different aucut the co nstr uc t io n vo r k being there in that 1
i 15 t o o.a ar wherever ana havinj to adjust to an cue r lenc y ver su:;
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16 standard aieratinj proceduren of othar orsonnel in the pl a.i t 17 who a.l u o,a i j a t be in that area workin.) far other reason.,7 la lb there anythinj there that yau could id enti f y?
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les, in that I bel i eve s c,; t e of theue 20
- > 2 0 pl e sould be going to sa r k it. Trojan for the Eirst t i >u
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21 ana aay not ac tcailiar or due to paut accidents at nuclear 22 pasar pl c a t e.
have c a n. e preconceiveJ nation ani ;acy ver y w11 23 eddily panic retner than D o :ie bud y t h a t '.c out therc aaj uCed
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u to tne pl e n t on a routine bcsis.
25 U;1. McCOLLJ<:
UE co ur ne, ther" are a l sa yr, nes amca a awa
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hl eaployaas in a plant.
There in alsajn turnover and thete la I'
2 aliiays people being a:hi ed.
Is there any lifference there?
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dOSOLIL:
sell, cons tr uc t ion,co r k e r s woula have i
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a lack of treininj.
/mj we don't
?> el i e v e that any to.warary i) b
..o r K e r i s -- i.a uld perfora cid e 3ua tel y d ur in j an emergency, i
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G uuring aay tim af any type of constru: tion or whatever.
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mr. Chairm o, betore yao rale on this, the.s t a t e af OreJon sould like to bc h e a r r' nrie fly on a
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ca? que s t ia a.
10 J d/s l a n M i l L L O< :
Go e b. ad.
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03 Yiuu4 0 E R :
< e c: i d n ' t file a r e s pon se to this f
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uotian, I just sould like to Li c enss e and the Utaff to
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13 clarify their opinion at unat they are uovin3 for.
The i
14 in te r r a j a to r y do. 17 can au reaC very broaily to include --
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.v e l l, it nays, "Tou work will haa pe r tha ability of plant D
16 operators to respand to any eaerjency praiarly.'
P,n d the 17 affidavits suo11Ltea by tne Licenare and the n ta lt refer to la oasically access and noise, a n c' I just aanted to
.a ib certain 1) th it,; e are r uling on the issue o f opera tor acce ic cnd safety 20 and not total ability to shut down tne plant or s o li o t hi ri j
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21 line that.
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Tnat is correct.
/ gain, nu in the 23 case of contention No.
3, we arc dealing with a linited 4
a u:]J ec t here.
Ta c limited nuoject in i n te r f e r enc e with i
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1 I would like to respond to a couple thinju that Mr.
2 m salle said.
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4R. OS'i Ra d Dd H :
I believe the Sta f f : lad e the sco a j
4 paint on paje 5 of *ueir r e s po n se, r e f te r to contention 17
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b Indalar as that cauteation relates ta the e 11_.2 t n of i
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'aud i f ica tlan wor k anJ operator 2.c c e s u.
S r.d t ha t 's all I hEve.
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7 if that was your uaderstandinj, tha t' a fine with
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o C it;i si A i4 41LLCR:
hhat 13 the position al the State 1
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w have no po s i t i ; n.
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.w r. Axelrad.
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- 04ay, sr. analle ind ica ted t h'a l
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13 passibility of a tire in the cable spreadinJ room.
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jaint out the wo r k that is !)eini pr o po se :1 far the cinle IS J g r e enf i n ] room it toe installation o f bolts and -ashes co" tin]
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lb in trou th Other Si e, 30 thare isn't c fire ha t.a r:t in the 17
.;able a pr a ud i nj r o osi,
10 ith respect to the v
t 19 C li41 ML\\ ti 1 L L Llut :
That'C true if the !100 follows 20 jour achedule, I suppocu.
But we are talkiul about fir e in
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.21 tne uence of en ex tr ao rd inar y unan t ic i pa t e
occurrence per. e 22 unat it vould ta ke tiue and pl ac e.
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I d idn' t want the nard to be ander
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4 the ini pr e s s i a n that what :dt. Hosolle may be re fer r in j to io a 25 fire nazard beinj created by the wo r i, t h:3 t.ca b Dein]
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.ith reu pec t to the 'jucatian o f 4
twaparary surkers, a6 6r. Yandt pointed out in his affidavit --
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L t ha t's varaj ragh 7 at P aj e 3 of his affidavit -- teaporary j
6 warhers are at the teia ga r a r y wo r ke r s a t.
- t. h e plant are liven j
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t i,e ins tr uc tion b and part of the instructions 'jiven to the d
sarhers at the Li Le is to lea /e the area in the event of an
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e ae r j enc y and to r e po r t to their supervisor o ut s id e the plant 10
.a u l I d i n j to wait Lurther inutroctions.
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'i o tne extent tnat Mr.
.io s ol i e made a stateacnt that 2
no t.e:a po r a r y
,<o r s e r can be relied upo n, I wuppose what ha is
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la saying that no uodification work or modificant, ion work can 14 uver be done within an opet ating pl on t necause existing LL personnel, f ull tiae personnel at the plant are there to
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15 operata the pl L. n t.
Taey do not have the skills a n 'J 1
1 17 capacilitica n u. d e u to do the construction work enu e
1U r io d i f i c a t i o n so r k an; uaintenance work salch is required.
I 19 Floa time to t i:ae au a routine Jat.ter additional peo pl e are i
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40 broujht into the glant.
21 Tais pa r tic ul ar.tod i fic a t io n so r k will involve a l
22 auch sualler continjent of additional sorkers than the n u Tber j
l 23 of pe a pl e who are broujht in on a routine basic for refuelinj, J
G._4 for e < a:a pl e.
nnd obviously We don't envision any probleu in 25 in st r uc tin j people wuo c ora e in to pe r f o r m this task as to J
d d d VIC d & dd4 fCKI
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dhat their f '.Inc t i o n s ho uld be in the event of an Sergency.
2 C tl A liL4 AN AILLCRf Well, the
,,o a rd is o f the view 3
that we will ov e r r ul e t h e :,o t i o n f or s uac.ar y d is p a ri t ion on 4
the ianues as raised of contention 10.
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- have in nind
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5 two things:
Une, there is an crea adulttedly small, which in G
.joinj to be covered, nr. Axelrad, oy your testimony anynow.
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!s nd secondly, as the atfidavit uf 1r. Yundt, YU4 D l', Paje D
6 3 showa tnis, "In t.n e event of a fire at other emerJency, 9
personnel of tue pl an t would need access within the area vnd 10 in tnc event of an uaergency, the acd111catio n wa ri; wo uld be 11 hal t ed and the constr uction wo r ker s :aa y t>e ins tr uc ted. '
2 naile t.his nay be a small pa i n t, nevertheless wu
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13 think there will be testitony concerninj this 7atter that 1 /.
aill coue up and should co ae up at the evidentiary heerinj.
1b to waula rather nave it cox.e up from a testimonial po i ?. L of D
16 view rather than rulin) as a aatter of law at a uotion for 1
17 s u.a.aar y di s pa si t ion, especially if tuere is 'j r a t u i t y for lt t.r a in i n j to De :J iv e n and how it is ta be handle 1 we balieve a
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19 that a full record va ulci be nelpful on that, 30 we will 20 ov e r r ul e the cuanary disposition as to contontion 17 and in
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21 line with the discussion here which I thiaK is acquainted 22
.ii t n the Licensee in souc iaat ter s above tae pl ea d in:1 natter 73 that la set forth in tnat contention, fire euerjency and that 4
kind of tnin], as well as the onca followin) not covered in 25 your afficavit as.iel l.
So we pre f er to have it in the 4
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b hl evidentiary hearin).
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AXt; Lt A D :
'tr. Chairaan, in our
,a a t i o n we 3
r a q ue a te.1 that il the iaotion for sum aar y dispasition is not 4
granted that pernapa there could be a clear or c e: pl ic i t
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b s ta t e.aen t of what the lasue 13 which does r e. la i n for 5
wi j ud i c a ti o n so that it is clear ta ua wan t inforadtion wa l
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.w old n e ed to provide with respect to that s ubj ec t 'aa t t e r.
6 Clin I riil A W TILLCR:
That wo ul d be de31rMle in view of 9
the fact that the partieu raising the queation are not 1G lawyers.
ih y are not a i:l ed by coun sel, we think oerha[,
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'y o u will ae able to s u ri ti ce reasanably f r oat th 12 uiucussion this iiorninj ca to the ucope of the contention, or O
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13 at least the nub a t' which is set forth a nd addreau it as ;ueb.
14 In ather wurds, the rule tha t's saa e t i n e.3 followad and I lb acuit i t's no t c nice clean-cut one, but it's not set forth D
16 a:, c l e a r l y a n :2 precisely as a lawyer w; ill d aet it forth, 17 cancedeJ.
hawever We are ind ul g i n j in a discussion..; hero
.e 10 nave a nu'a vf an 1.i e a that's reis:-
thit Lae r a c rt
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19 to nave coverud 1 Lninn in the 01: n,aion
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JO a o m e t i:a en picked up by t,1censee in flashing ont contentions
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21 sould se sufficient unless there is some f ur t her contential 22 yau iauld like to raise now and ask the intervenors to 23 r e.a pa nd to.
I tane it that tua scope is loinj to ua pretty 4
uuch us I have ma t it for th nero.
2S I think that's auaut aa far as they art. bl e tu d r.O V [ C li
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contri')ute L :) the uuttet at this tiie.
t>ut if tirre i: an/
9 i..a r e ;'r e c l S i o tt thist you [ eel little ;o ;c o t.t i:. l e c',
tall u,
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5 d10cusaian ' ha t ' a taken pl ace this.ictninj iu aie t.. e atJ l
talkinj uL.o u t is, in :: sunce, the instructions that are livta i
7 to c;astruction persannel.
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n a '. ! t.h e i r trcininj aM
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J aullity to iallos it v the.shol e <wthoc ia which it is I
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- > 3 n ci ta l e a b u r <.lic e in aii 11 uiierjency it wo n' t do any jood to
,l ul l out a baan that
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'a cover it J i t. n yo ur..itne:.x ~.
2 in g u e. " of Lire ua so an1 Jo,
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..t ci a n ' t neeu tu.j o into specitic 16 c.c c e J, t; paths ar oay acce:s.
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Le t ue ash sr.
NcCollai's views on 15 C uA l w lt\\:;
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1 don't i.n o w aut
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that wo ul <. he 4
l 1.5 pi; c t at the aiscoubian as.. e to into ya ur proce'iures.r/ shich li fau Tre j o i n.)
to, ion _ the coii[icatian which we./;ul na / e 1
?O j;ae la to enfway,
- t. h e clarificaLion af what e cj u i p,n en t is i
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.va a r e ano ha t, lonj i t.
Lake
'. a g e t 'the r e, L lu: b i'! ateel 22 fanels that wi31 ;e carrieJ t hro u jin.
That is not e<truiwl /
23 cleer at thiu paint in terou
>f haw that in te r r upt s it.
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.4 Il there are any othcr k i nd s 01 activities like t h a +'.
25 tnat wo ula tr ul y ic. pac t it, we are joinj to i; e into thca t i
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hl discussion.
It it is not any more than what aight be called 2
norual operatinj procedures of pe o pl e joinj in and out of an 3
area onyaay, then we can fall bc:L on how good is your 4
in st r uc tion and how adequately will it be fo ll owed fo r pe o p1(
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that are o f a acre or lens temporar y nat ure in the crea.
G Taa t's the way I visualize it at this po i n t.
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Okay.
Let ne ask the chairman one D
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brief pr oced ur nl natter.
In the order that was issued or 9
u e ao r and um that wa s issued by the so a rd I believe on icebruary 10 20 that was a reainder or sujjestion that testinony be
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11 sueplied in quastion-Onswer f o r:..
It 21a y 'ae with the l ita i t ed 12 s.ao un t of time available between now and March 17 that we aay 9
O 13 with respect to some of these s ubj ec ts Iesub.ait part of an 14 affidavit.
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ii;I;Di AN AILLmt:
- c woula indul^Je our diacretion in 13 that taspect.
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4r. C;ia i ruan, anyba it's 3asier for ld the Licensae thdt We co uld s u mli t questions so they could 19 write th3ir testiaony around those ]ue n tio n s.
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20 CHAIRi\\N AI L L Cil:
The problem is you don't hcVe a 1
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21 lot of tiae.
You haven' t been very specific in yo ur I
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contention.
i 23 A ll. ROSOLIC:
I wo uld --
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.4 CUAIR%N MILLER:
Le t me say thi;;, the s u j'j e s t io n in 25 turned down, but wa do r e c on.u e nd that yo u g et to'j e t n a r, you i
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representing yout parties, Jet to] ether with Mr.
M el r a d 's 2
staff an'J see if yo u c an wo r k out sNie t h i n ~j n, to the e'< t e n t 3
t iva t yau can delinaa te the uatters that you would request j
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taeu to go into, it'a helpf ul to do it now.
Tais is co ii n.)
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fa too late in the Ja.ae for us to.acke cn order.
G Take a recess and maybe va can have a li t tl e chat.
7 About 15 ulautes or 60.
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9 C h ;Ilith <i1 L L thi:
Le t ue inquire, dr. Gray, the l
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'it a f f was joinj to consider over recess, I ca not sure yo u i
r) l.1 have had t3e o ppo r t un i t y, to nandle the co nd i t ion s which are 2
partly in response to various in fo raa tion and tha like.
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13 you have any s ujjestions for tha t?
l 14 iR. GLY:
Yes, Mr. Cnd i ra an,,1h a t I am goinnj to 1 Ei aujgest in our te stiuony to be filed on ;tonday, March 17, we C
16 vii l l ct that tioe layant the testinony o f Mr. Tra n ell 1
1 17 precisely what the license co nd i tion s are, ne wauld pr o po se,
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10 and r e conc e r.d what our intent was with regard to --
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19 Dh. ac C O L L 'J4 :
There is one thinj that you uiqht
.20 Jant to use.
It there are certain, I don't knaw, h
21 requirements for proceeding or charac teristics thet you want i
22 to set instilled c:s /3 r e found in the interrojatories, it nay 1
23 oe tnat the Licensau would want to incorporate them in n
.4 revision file or yo u i ta y w:m t to use a revinion file, or yo u 25 aay
,ia n t to u.c e both aspects of that.
If there is somethinj i
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1 that probably Jhoull be J u.pj g S t eri t.o the LicOnLW Lhdt 'i ha Ul d 2
- m done that can ;)e pl ac ed in the i n t e r r o
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Yes, air.
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Ve r y we l l.
Have w covered that
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1r. Cnairnan,.j ua t a :ainur pr oced ur al 7
.a a t t. e r.
Se certainly endorse any a t Lt. apt of the Joard to
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d otteipt to have for the purpocan af t% conditians specific 9
portiona of the in f o raa t. ion s ub:a i t ted :>y the Licenseu that o un oy the Staff identified.
I believe, hawever, 10 are relied e
11 that for pur po se a of the record pr e s en t ed at the hearing that I
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L:m i; s o r d aill still want us, as ua ;-l o n to, ta sulii t an j
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13 e<niutt which evntains c.l l the co r re s po nd e nce, that that will 14 Le yrt af the record.
But tar pu r pa ne s it will be un ct' sa lb t iu t tinit con be narro.ed in n oia ; lashion so that it can he
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16 f ully und er stood by averyone.
l 'i CdAldmA4 '1ILLUM:
lb therJ aaythinj pendita now lu actore w -j o to tae motian for sur mr y d iapo si tion with 19 reference to Utw contention 5:u. 20?
Anythinj pendinj that 2b da had n' t roualvc-at thia
.;t a g e ?
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.il All rijht, ':u. 20, ehich wa s icentifiri in 22 transcript 30J3, contention NJ.
?D.i t a ted th>t there w u,
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23 Inadequate a n ne s u;aen t af the offects of drillinj
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.4 Cantrol Building wallc durinj audification.
25 i4r. Axelrad, do yau w i c;b to address yaur motica for esE0VICU.i H 0J, YC X I
3[a O d h1 d u,.uaa r y d i o po s i t io n on that?
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Ycll, 6r. Caoituaa, at the prehearinj 3
coaference, CFJP had i nd ica ted that the pri..ary tprust of its 4
contention was concern over the effects af drilling on the b
dui saic ca pacit y o f the walls in the Control auild i n j.
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Joue/er, in s u;;>1 e a e n ta l responses to our in te r r o j a t o r i e.5, 7
they also i n.i i ca t ed that they were concerned that drilling in J
B the wallu Oculd effect the a qui pa en t supportea by the wlls.
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/,nd also at various points, we t ho u:j n t there might be some 10 concern wi t h respect to concrete f r a c t u r a.; and vibratians il f roci the d rillinj.
2 We have subat i t ted in r e s po n se to tue -- in sup,olt
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13 of our aation f o r a umrar y cli s po si t io n two affidavits, one oy 14 4c. tin d e r so n of dechtel a rt one :y Dr. m i ll i a'n Shite who you L5 will recall.
J 10 rn e Staff, in itc r e s po nse to our lotion for s uttua r y 17 d is pa si tion, indicated that it did not concur in tne grantinj 18 of the motion aitn respect to the po r t io n s o f th contuntion 19 t h r ". referred to tne iapact on the adeque2cy o f the b ui ld i rrj,
20 the st r uc t ur a;. adequacy of the '>ull d in j.
21 They did indicate that they concurred 'li t h respect 22 to tha action for sunaary disposition on other aspects.
23 k.ha t I wo uld 11%e to do in lijht of the po si t ion 6
that'the Utaff hab tak.n is to, in 33sento, modify our actian.
i 25 he sill not at this tim ask the naard to grant s un..ia r y i
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I hl dispacitian w i t:1 respect to the inject of drilling an the 2
aheer capacity af the./all.
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What se wauld like to have os e result of :
4 d i s c urs a i o n t h i.;.ito r n i n j is a ruling by the haar0 that the D
5 only r e..,n i o l og issue with respect to drillinj in the iupnct 0
of urillinjs ia the wall of the Control daildin] ugan th<
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.>heur capacities of the wbl13.
GO s2 uill nat discuss that I
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subject this norninj any further on the assuy, tion that at the very least that would rouain as a iaatter to be addrested i
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hearinj.
E 11 I.vo ul J like to discuss S t i e fl y, hawever, the atner i
2 aspects that uljht be d e e,ied to be i ncl ud ed within the
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13 cantention at the present avoided by the in te r veno r u and just 14 c.cplain why se thin k s um.nar y dis pa si tion should be 3 ranted ac 15 to thace iortions of it.
D 10 la eunence sna t I av requectin;j is aither a pa r tial 17 graat of tac
- r. o t i on f or s ua:aar y dispasition or a refine. ant IL of tna iacce to the l ia l t o;l nu';iect tnat i have identified D
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vta y I break in nn?
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21 C laI B M N AI L LtM :
Yes, Ar. Gray.
22 sh. C: tai:
'io u ind ic a ten es:ma tiall y wha t in 23 essence 6:aa un t s to w i t hd r a.li ng the uation for G urn a r y 4
dispabition as to effe:tive Jrnvia3 on cap 8 city.
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dpOn thd Sheer C a ;.ia C i t l e C u[ tli i
dh0VLCd a RJZ iC r.1
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h1 Cantrol muildiwi valla.
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A partion o f the tiotian ha > Lo do wi th 3
tae effects ut d t ill i n-j.lircetly ao c r c c r. s.
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1 aa not wi t hd r a'si n j that po r t io n of
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That is one of the items that I will be d i e.c u s s i n J.
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04ay, time.
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hith respect to
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drillinj on e<iutinj cracks as wa have discosseu in the J
o f f id ov i t. 3 1. ' D r. noite in parajraph 9, o viaual inspec tio n o f I
10 the area
.ie are drillinj i t.
ta take pl a c e no: confir m ! that 11 the croc s in the vicinity of t h t; drill in) are no atall tnat 2
even it :. h O Jrillinj
.d r e to be f.Ond 3 ir Cetl y un th'd, tad
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.>oe e t capacity of toe wall.co uld nat be a f f ec ted.
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In a reavanoe to a lincovery request, CEP had
.t 3 rulerrud to one crach which they apparent.ly were concernea
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16 about.
'in a t eteck is not in the vicinity where t% drilling 17 is joinj to tar.e pl ac e.
And in any event, the.iiuensionr are 4
18 auch Ac.a 11 e r than thane referred ta ' ) y C t"? P.
Eril1inj therean la wo uld n c. t have effect on the sheer capacity.
20 Taet was covered in the <Jhite effidavit
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Jl lue uthor partion of our motion for n u..ua a c y 22 oicpasition refers to the la pa c t of drillin; upon equipment.
23 Mt. Anat er so n's a f f id a /i t has e x pl a in ed the aeanureu shica
.4 dill be ta ne n to pr ec l ud e danaje to ryuipaent attached or i
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2b adjacent to tne wall durin1 d r ill ing.
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l hl decause of th2 fact that the -- once the hole is I
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orilled and the bolt has to be attached to rne wall th2re 3
will the to be a sasher attached on the otner s id e of the j
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4 sall oppacite waare the drillinj ta ke n pl ac e, the hole aust i
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- ae c en te r ea at least nine inches frou equi paen t attachea to
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the wall because af the nine-inch radiau washer that nas ta l
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Le a ttacit ed on the o p po si te side.
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na ;1a v e also in;i i c a t e d in our affidavit that the
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e qui p aen t, any equip:ient in the vicinit y nust ue at least two 10 incheu awa y fro:a the sall because the wacher is two inchas 11 thick and has to be -- there has to be enoujh room for the 12 wasner to be put on.
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13 Tne Staff has pointed out that the anount of space 14 traa the wall to any adjacent e qui p acnt has to be at 12ast 15 five laches to ac c oata.od a te also the :1 r o u t and another 31all
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13 weaher that has to be attached.
vhat we did is a very 17 conservative analysic assuainl only twa inches, cut at lobst 13 t ao inchen in our a f f id c.v i t of course e nco<a pa sse s the fact 19 that you would -ne ed at least tiVo inches.
Wid a 2, the S t a f f.
20 has painted out, even if it sure only two laches away, that
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21 wauld oc sufficient for the equipnent to be protected.
22 ne discussed the partic ular taeans that will be ta ken 23 to asbure that the d r ill in:j will not hwe an 1:a pa c t on equipaont a par t from the cpace constraints that I juat 2b dibcu3 sed.
WG./ill have Workeru M sijnGI to monitor tad area
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l h1 o ppo si te the penetration wno will be. in direct cuaaunication j
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with th2 drill operator a n'i will be colo to tell the,a once l
3 t.ae crill coaua througn.
4 In ad d i Lio n to that, the drill has a /ery slow 5
penetration speed, and it has -- the drill operator has a 5
positive control over the bit k.lich adGurco Lnit there is not 7
a sudden re10abe, havinj the drill jo noch f ur ther than he D
8 Intended.
So We don't uelieve that would be any problea.c.
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'e will be using diamond tip 9
In adoition to which, 10 atills which will cut slowly and cleanly through the concrete 11 and therefore vibration ana concrete f r aya e n t o fraa the l
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drillinj will be uinital and will no t affect the equipaent 3
13 a ttac hed or aajacent to either side of the well.
1 14 For all of these reasann, we think that the drilling
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l ib sill nat have i,a je c t upon equipraent and will not have an J
16 i.a pa c t up a n ' c'.ie se cracka.
/Na d as I said before,
.c wo ul d se w)uld retjuest that the contention oe 1)
Juja x.t that lt liuitea to ci;:cl y the :ffect uga n tu_
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a:mer cap 4 ;ity.
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19 I uijht po in t out just one other ninor item.
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2U contention as draftd specifically r e f er s to drillin) in tne
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21 Control nulldinj walla, and that is what we have aM ressed in 2'2 thesa affidavito and thin d i cc u'., s i o n.
23 7.s I nave 'ndicated previously, tne further 1
4 requireaent of the work han resulted in a decision that they l
26 will ae drilliaj throujh one of the 3,u x il i a r y B u i ld i nt; salla i
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i nhere I..i e n t i a n eu previousl'/, where the aisle i ti l oc a t u! in l
P Order to ball the new wall on 3n online end.
,e don' t f
3 oelieve that that would create on y probl ei t either.
It is no t 4
covered bj this contention and we don't think we need to b
addreas it.
I just t r.o u j h t I would aako that paint clear to l
0 avoid any --
7 a.t. ccCULLO1:
I c.a pa r.zl ed by that last ats te aen t,
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3 accause 1 Jon't viaualize nav/ this nes addition to tu" 9
arilling occurs.
Do e s it not :j o throujh a Control ouildinj 10 well and an Auxiliary Building sall or does it just go fro.a 11 the outuide of the Aax ilia r y Huild in j soll to the iacide oE 2
thd Auxiliary nulld ing ;vall inen yo u d r ill?
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13 la. tvi-; La A D :
Le t ae say tua thinjs.
One is tnat Ic theue ate de sig ned deta ils which we are utill retining ihich 15 we pl an ta be aale to describe in our testimony on erch 17.
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16 ide reason i brin).it up is to the extent t lia t we have sa ae 17 indications that we have so:a e pa i n t s a n J: e t a i l.
Unt, in 10 e., s e n c e, this viil l oe la cm L-shaped bracket a,J the drillinj
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19 t.ha t we are talking c.h o u t here aauld he froa the o ut sid e of
.d u the Auxiliary dul3dinj vall lato the inside of the Auxiliary
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21 dallding wall a n ti not into the Co n t r ol Buildinj wall.
4' 2 DH. tic C O L L O 4 :
The reason 1 ask that is at som 23 point in this evidence it was sta ted or in the
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.4 interrojatories it was stated that there wo uld be no drillinj 25 trt a thu inside of the Cantro] Build in g to the outside.
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hl when I visuali zed initially what you were talking about, if 2
you se r e j o i n.)
to put the washers on fro:a the inside of the 1
3 uuildinj, I realized yo u had to drill it f rmt the o ut c id e a nd j
4 I was tryinj to find out whether yo u were inside or outside.
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5 And the wa y you descr ibed it, I think it is.
I believe that j
G is soraethinj to be dealt with later.
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- iR. AXELRAD:
I d id n' t mean to create any confusion.
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1 was just trying to pr ov id e L.3 a e preliminary iniornation to 9
the doard in view of the tact that these kinds of questionc 10 are coainj up at this time.
<a do plan to make this clear in 11 the testinony that will follow on Marca 17, 2
fnat conclu,les ay presentation, 4r. Chairman.
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ar. ;4r. Ito s ol i e?
14 Ci. IlOJ OLI C :
'le ll, I realize that 4r. Ic< e l r ad hau i
15 wi t ild r a an part of t h e
..iu t i o n, but I think as far as the other
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13 t..ijht possibly be affected lay t h e drilling.
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19 needs to oe clearly spelled out and not just ( 1,a u n e ) t ha t 's 20 cll I have to cay about tnat.
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21 C il A liH A N iII LLUR:
Does the Staff have anythinj 22 further?
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- 4 R. Gd A Y
The Staff has nothing furthor othar than equi xnent is, if, in 4
to no te tnat rejardless of shore the f
25 fact, there is a sufficient amount of roort between wnore a 1
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drill wo uld c o.a e throujh a wn11 and the piece of equipaent, 2
then we helieve that the ueasures that aru beinj taken will 3
n i:nply pr ecl ude the drill fro.a touchinj any equipment, na I f
4 0 'a no t exactly aure shat uore benefit could be jotten by i
b knowing wnere the e q ui paen t is si:qly becauae physically they G
need a certain amoun t of toon between the wall and ahere the 7
equignent is.
And if they have sufficient room, the y simpl y
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O sa n' t contact.
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L lusIliAN ilLLER:
vin a t is yo u r understandinj, i
4 10 Graf, in the other portion of the cao t io n for sunoary 11 olapasition that iw u been wi t hd r awn by the Li c en s2 0 's?
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r ei ta in r> o f which su:n aar y disposi tion in soujht?
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Nnat is my understandioj of dwt rew ins 14 m>uld be that partion of this cantuntinn whico -- sell, let'n 15 aee -- contention states inadequate a s se s s:a e n t of the effects
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l6 of drillinj in the control building wella dur ing ;n ad i f i c a t io n 17 has acen aade.
han e ef f ects of d r illin j owiously are on tne ld atrenjth of the voll.
And thet portion of the notion -- or l9 that i>ortion of this contention is not n')w :J o i n g a ! d r e r..
20 Other e !. f ec ts o f d r ill i nj and the r e'an in i ng elfocts al of drilling wauld appear to be ac t ual drilling ope r a t i o ns,
i 22 J a ma:J i ng e: qui gaent, cablon, conduits that are near where the 2
1 23 orillin] W)uld be taking place.
That Gaen to be unat is --
.4 shat elsa is e n c o 'a pa s s ed in this contention.
2S C ll A I R '4 M v11 L LL 4 :
- lace tha contention in ' thr asad l
d buVICil :. RO4 YC K1
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hl r6ther t> road 1.y as to the all e j ed inadequate a s se c s:wn t of the 2
ef fects of drilling, what is the utility, as the Staff scos 3
it, in going out in so r t i n:3 out where this contention la 4
viable and aig h t be ;a id no t ta be viable?
L A li. Guni:
The utility lo that if, in fact, it's i
6 deternined that a.
La those areas for wh i c h this :a o t i o n i
ellective drilling on equi paent, if the 7
r e.aa i n s, that i s d
daard deternines that there is na raaterial issue, than thone 9
aspects 01. this contention neec no t be add r e ss ed at the 10 nearinj, and we can go on tu atner aspects o f th? contention.
11 C 11 A I R'i A N ?l1 L bl it :
And the Staff is content to have 2
those aspects r cra o v e d from tas evid entiary hearin] as a 13 matter of law in :j r an t i ng a 'aation at this po in t?
14 AR. Url A Y :
Yes, the fita f f would be wito regard to 15 tav e f f ec ts o f d rillin.j on e q ui p:acn t and with rejard ta J
16 d r il l i n.j on existing cracts wh ic h wa s int a t h e r item that cir.
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axelrad h&d -aentioned.
IB CilSId Wi AILLER:
You wo uld litiit, than, une eff2ct 19 of the partial a uwaar y disposition to the e f f ects o f drillinj 20 apan equi paen t and the ef fec ts o f d rillia] upo n the cracks as 2.1 identifled?
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Yes, sir, s
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l 23 Mr. Cha i r:aa n, with the further l iial to t i >n, also, ah that obviously if there i r, irilling, this wauld apply only to s
2h those areas that have bet i d el i n i a t ed in the motion.
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1 If there is drillinj elsyUhere in the Control 2
daildinj ths t ' s goinj to take place throujh Walls that navc g
3 not been covered oy this contention, then we wo u ld have to 4
look at those.
5 C!iA I;14 AN AILLN:
- l r. Gray, by the time yo u 'j e t 6
r e f i n e.ae n t s on r e f in e:a en t s and exceptions to exceptions, it 7
gets a little bit sticky.
We believe va would pr e fer to have 0
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.s t a nd as to toe e f f ects of the drillinj Snd b
acy be the qua n t act of proof wo uld be n i n ir.t i ze d in those areas s
10 wnete you feel there iJ no necessity to ;j o.
but We don't 11 want to g e t into thiu yuastion, I believe.
a vant to have 12 a o..' e testimony, soae evidence as to the effccts of the O
13 drillinj.
And since there are some as effects that you are 14
- d. l l contendinj snould be in a nd sonic of you say those should 15 be out, we lon' t want to sort through, an a matter of law, 9
s 1G the..ntion for suMary disposition as to CPUP contention 20 17 or the cenaining portions of it is denied.
lb No./, the last contention, I believa, is
,v h a t, n u'a b e r 4
lb l12 7 i' e s, con te n tio n nualbe r 2 2.
cit. luelran, 10 you wa q t to 20 tell un want t h;.; t ' s a bo u t?
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aell, that conteation '.:ich appears 22 at *rsnscri ?t 3011 reads that the effect of the steel platu I
1 23 on displaceuent in the co u pl e x has not been completely 3
So.
analyzed.
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25 Tne Staff in its reuponce di6 no t concor sith our i
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2 decided to wi thd raw that.
3 ChAld1AN '1 ILLS 4:
Vary wll.
'he notion for J o'ma r y 4
d i u po si t ian, then, as to contention nuaber 22 id vii t hd r a wn N
b cad wa need no t consider i t. Curther at this t i ca o.
3 Our purpase in part, as yau k n a ti, is to deterninu 7
those issues of fact,./ha tev e r thz.t may be c o.a i n g u;> a t the D
3 evidenticry nearinj, to id ent.i [ y and to enable the parties to L
c.d d re ss thea expaaitiously and fairly.
tle have now jenc 10 tnrough, therefore, those isuues which are acia by the 11 cantentions.
In lig h t af the rulinjs and in light of tha 2
c o n t e n t i a.us, also, which have not been tne subject af Motionc
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13 au Nr. M el r 6d teca1nimu there we r e coao that the inard had le previously incicateu tejorGlaan of their f or aulation: or ib contention, tnat they were af interest ta the Boerd anj hu in udb reapecte tnut view anu he has not caught a rulin) upan Y
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.a i g h t be helpf ul n a si, if w could, at least by 19 reference, identity so;ae of the questions, issues, if you 20 sill, that I believe Dr. mcCollon raised pr ev io u.31 y and which
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2J beve been considerud a nd have been in the minh of the 22 t at ties, certsinly.
23 dut since w wauld like to nave in this last final D
$A prehear!nj conference the a ppo r t un i t y for all of u r. to think 25 acut and addrea6 the inaues that we are 'joing to be iearinj D
COVICH s R OZ ?.' h 1
E15 hi c/idence on sho r tly, I will aan Dr. ncCollua, co uld yoa 2
id enti f y for u., the issues ;r the r t f e r enc e.; to theu or
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3 ue need la
- t. n u t rejord?
4 JR. Mc C UL LJ et :
IC so:aeone could pruside oe during 5
the lurich hour the ez:r t of the tr aa sc r i pt that has tne pajes i
G startinj with paje 31 %, 31 %.
D:) ya u have a set of that 1
7 here?
J 4K.
IndLtAD:
Yes, and end in g ?
9 UR. ;+:C a L L O 4 :
'c, e l l, i t's co und to be in that seme 10 period.
It isn't very lonj.
It's the pa r t tha t I addressed.
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A Ac;LRa u:
The quoutions you asked 11.
4cCOLLO4:
Ye J, it should all oc in one sat.
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13 it.< o u l d ue h elp t ul and then 1 c c:a add re ss this : ante 14
.>pecitically after the luach hour.
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Then the partieJ, also, the StafC D
16 z.no intervenors, Li c e n o c e,. t i.] a t want at the luach recess to L7 go over those co thut se can further specity..here it would 10 ae helpful or clarity that pa r tic ul a r ramje of questions or 19 issusa.
Zu ut. AE LM D:
- 4ay I nave just one minute, plesse?
!.1 C d & I.c4 A.N 41 LL Eit :
Surely.
22 qu. AL Lunb:
I thoujht it wo ul d be useful if we l
i 23 oi>tainud aufficient copies of that so other peagle could l o '> e, D
O. 4 ut it at the sa ca e time.
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OiN IH MN 41 L L'.d :
Ye s, it ua ul ri be help! ul.
Thank i
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l h1 you.
2 all rignt, I take it we kill have t a m..
avellable 3
this atternoon.
4 Ja. ric C O L LOM :
Na, o a fo re the luach hour.
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CdAIR4ah c4 I L L Uit :
Well, we don't k no./.
G AXZLRAO:
'nell, we can check.
I thoujht ha 7
unid after lunch, s o:n e o n e is callinj rijnt now, so if I could D
d clarify that.
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CHAI@iAN.4ILLGB:
All rig ht, s/h i l e we are thinking 10 aoout a d3scription, then, identification of issues or kinds j
11 of oatters that we will be add ressin J at the ev id enti a r y i
2 heatinj.
Could we find out abaut the unresolved issues?
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13 that so:tethin] that tne Staff is continuin) to give sov i
14 thoujht to?
<. h a t we would like to krnw are what 6re the lb r eia a i n i n ) unresolved issu2s of shatever nature so we will 1
J 16 have t heta sprec) upon the record and it will help start j
17 Uringing in to focus the issue matters, i
18 4H. C!M Y :
'r.
Chair aan, with regard to the 19 structural matter, I believe the r eta a i n i n g unresolved issues 20 were thne that i read out thi3 aarninj whibu wa uld be
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21 addressed.
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- 03. -4c C O L LO 1 :
I would like to aake a com.a e n t there.
23 I do n' t consider that as bein) the unrusolveJ issues.
That's J
$.4 what you nave to do in way of an analysis to resolve the 25 issues.
It wo uld be helpf ul if we had them laid out nt D
3COVICa & HDZiCd1
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unlike what y.au Jid in the T.:n unleda so..e of those hae been i
2 already reuulved that have been laid out in tha C C i.
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3 see :ay paint there?
- 11 of this anclyJis that was read this 4
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b aoroinj actually will Ja to resolvinj the un r e solv c<1 iusues 5
that wuru laid out in Sec tion 5 of the Sia.
I cannot tie 7
specific parts to specific parts becauue each has a bearin]
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Section 5 of the L.:47 l
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It Omjinc on page G3, I aclieve.
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53.
i' ua page 61, Section 5.0 Cvaluation of tm iod i f i ed
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13 Cantlicts ahd the Ade quacy Tnereof is that the c o:.a e nc e a e n t i
I 14 af the section to whica pu alln M,
- r. Gray?
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it. C.Ia i ra an, there are various pa r ts of 1
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15 that, a u j inn i trj, I juaus, on Section b.l.1.1.
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13 relatinj to accountinj for the encased steel f r i:ae that 10 u 19 relates to the calcul ation of tha
>a ll stiffnessus, 20 detetuination of the vm ll stiffness.
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-taving on throujh to
?ction 5.1.1.3 on pa.j u 15, 1
22 there are a ae r ie s of unresolved questions with r e-] a t d to the 23 treatment o f dead loan in deternining tua wall t,t i f f w : w s
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O4 and CayLicitidS.
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Creep and shrinkaje.
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G Rrt Y :
That is, ye s, directly r ela te': to the l
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cruep an<l ail c i n ka j e and the jrans 3,/ e r t u r n i n,
- c. f f e c t b.
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In Sectian 5.1.i.3, ap i n, thi s. ti ae on Jaje 03, an 4
issue sith rejard to gross bending moment e f f ec ti, on D
b a t i l f n e =, u.
G C U A I R.l AN 4ILtdH:
What wa s that, :jross?
7 an. McCOLL04:
Hait a ainute, S.1.1. 3.
O C !l.ild 4/id 41 L L O.1 :
So r r y, I d id n' t 'J e t that, the J
jro23, w tai t aas that, tir. Gray?
10 ri R. O d ^. Y :
Gross t>enJinj,aom e n t effects on 11 atifEnesa.
That section of the SLH utarts on paje G5 where 2
the item is identified on pa j e 6 8.
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13 And that, Lao, Joes to the question of the stiffnesa l
14 of the wallu and capaci ty o f the audifyinj walls.
LL Tne next issue is in Section 5.1.1.4 on paje 13.
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1G ha s to do al t h the the nethod by i/a i c h the differeaces in Lhd 17 st uc tur al behavior o f the structures account for single or 1L couole curvature behavio r of the str uc t ur e.
19 And Section L. 2. 2.1 with r e. a rri to ca paci ties o f new j
20 st r uc tur al el e,n e n t s, there is a question as to the e f f.e c t s af
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21 slippayc and also as to the effects of the coefficient j
22 f r ic tion between the steel pl a t e and concrete.
23 In Section 5.2.2.1, I juess back to Section 5.2.?.1, 9~4 there is a qu e s t. i o n as to the final capacity ta force ratios 1
25 tur the new structural eleaents baned on a pro pe r 1
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hl consideration o f the stiffnasses of the wall el e aents.
2 In Section 5.2.2.1, page 72,
.e neer a verification 3
that Ltw 1.l ec t u r e failure is still the controlling :nou e of 4
failure considerin) r eci uc ed dead load.
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S C 1U\\ 1 M i N HILLED:
Pardon ue.
G iX1. ncCOLLO4:
And on pa 1 e 71, you state tnat each thin is down et the bo t to:a of the pa.3 e -- each 7
element
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3 level should be capable of carrying the forces calculated and 9
r el i ed u pon to be withstood, namely sheer, tension and noment.
10 It's not oavious that this is act fo r eac h panel in the O
i 11 ca ai.l ex.
Anci tha t iaust be verified Dy PGE c om pl ex.
If that see:is like a fundamental toinj, that 'a a y '> e O'2 O
13 different --
14 Ait. G3At:
That's a f und a aental that I s ki pped.
15 Ca pac i t i e.; relied an for each panel can be d ev elo ped.
0 16 AR. CMY:
In Section 5.2.2.1 on pa g e 7 2, there is i
17 identification af soae acditional work needs to oc done on j
'. 0 the vertical sheer, and its effect on fl ec tur e failure.
19 Un p c. j e 73, c]ain on flecture f ailure, t a'a quention 20 as to the dead load contribution throujh that made of failure.
O 21 4H. QM Y :
Again on Paje 73 sith regard to sliding 22 failure, there han to be so:ae proper consid eration of the 23 sheer friction contribution to cl id i ng failure in the c o:a pl ex.
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_4 Mo s, I uentioned the nuitber of ite as which would 25 effect tne accurate calculation and oeteroine of Jtiffnesses b
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hl in the c om pl e < if stiffness it eltected aa the dis pla c e 1onta 2
ana in :nN 3ection 5. 9. 3 on Pa j e 7 /., t o.m. t natter is raised, 3
the laat that utiftncas aunt be deter ainej and then l
4 61 s pl a c eoi e n t s trol the pr o pe r st i f f n e s:.e s.
stiffness 'iust L
in the u a,:l e vein, if stiffness in 5
oe finally accur atel y aeterained anti the itiffoesa,1111 hav e 7
a cyclic effect an the floor re s po n se spectre this i :, in S F: H
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a section 5.3, Pa:Je 74 9
I pr eviousl y uentionM that the effects af the dead 10 lo ad need tu ae ade jua tely canaid ered.
Dean 1 >ad will 11 intluence dejredation of wallu.
Nul degradation haa a 2
bearihj on the deejrudation of tue walls a n(i s t r uc t u r e s and 13 nun.ber o l' eatthquaa u a atructuro f a:1.cl ths t A nn.
E3 in la buction 5.L, there is an indication that the cyclic effects lb ud u qua tel y consid er in g the dead loM c1r <iction and 16
,tiftness,audL be final.
17 n aally in Section 5.12, Paje 3,
there is a la anuiceratian j iven to possible iupact af wall failnreb or 19
./all degraaation Ear wa l.l a in waich taare sac a capacity to 20 force ratio af less than one un the equi p tent in the vicinity
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those Walls.
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At this pa i n t, we do no t believe that the capac i ty 22 l
23 tu force ratius nave been finalinec, n nn obviously if thern S.4 etc iaore alls that have the capacity to force ratios of l e n> :,
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passibilit y o f some d e j r mia tion a t thouu l
2b than one, sie have a l
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ef fects on the equipaent in those areas han to be looke at.
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3 Dii. PA,JUN:
Mr. Gray, hcve any of thes2 questions 4
Leen resolved since the Sta was incued?
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b M!t. C iOW :
Mr. tier r i n j 1 think indicated one area 6
that ha t, been.
7 vik, iEdRING:
Well, vih a t Mr. Gray read into the 3
r e:c o r d were some additional analyse 6 that are joinj ta be 9
done, aa n an expoasion or clarification of so.me iteau th6t 10 were u ro ad-o r us hed in the 3ER.
And there cre uo le 'linor
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11 points wh e r e we have to do add i tio nal itn al y.3 e s a n d co:ie up 12 witu the final n u.a b e r a.
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13 Jac area that has Seen resolve] that we ca OMa 14 ite.a wiJ witu rejard to the coeEficient of friction i s s u;ied 15 or the actual parposen for the concrete to concrets as in 3 C1,
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15 there is only ta be providinj the anaer keys on the s:11 ana 17 on tau u line a ll suere fau'v" jot the concrete going ap on ld the outside 01 Lne existinJ walls.
So there is no p r o bl e.;
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20 And on the n line wall, ahere they are add in g the
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21 steel pl a te tney only nace a uheer friction coefficient of
.58, 22 And in addition, thiy are :J o i rvj to be providinj s aal l shear 23 key type of thinjs by cou3 heninj up of the pl a t e on the back 4
.> u r f a c e that would be in contact with the wall in the 25 vicinity of the bolts to cainimi ze day p>tential sl4, pa j m, dbOVIC:1 & i(02 /C b'. I I
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bo t b.Q t i t e.a has been r3 solved in the r e.s u l t a n t 2
' t..ae ting un last eriday.
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. ~h a t aSout Eoction 5./,
ade.,ua c y o f
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te s ti1Q p t o:j r da to establich capacities and stiffnessab of 1
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'a the coa pl e x Walls?
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i!iO Gl I% :
In that pa r t i c ul a r sec tio n, ajain, it j
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. jets back to t n e;d doinj so a0 additionel analyses that aill D
d shas tnat t h.2 uacertainties that were not answered by tna i
- s testinj terojrca nave been adequately eccounted for in the 10 caalyses dont in oroadeninj toe floor respanca spcctra and i
11 takinj a laak at the ca pacit y to force ratios, considering 2
shile the testinj projraq want to a certain e x t.: n t one place O
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.a aj o r place that did it fall short sia s in determininj 1/
axac tl y ao w the st r uc t ur al,
5, t r uc t u r e aill behave jivinj 15 panel to genel interactian.
And there are e c a u pl e af D
1G cifferent v.a ya of lookinj at it.
!a d it's act poculale to 17 sieteruine exc.ctly what the effecL u ala be of pa n c l-t o-pa n e l l
la interaction.
30 that's the reason far l o o k i n j^ et thinjs like 1
D.
19 sinjle /er sus do aole c urva t ure bahavior and assurinj if yo u 20 can ta r,e it both ways the realities m ewhere between the t i;o C
21 sa yo u' ve jot reasoaable a s a u r s t.c e.
22 D3. McCdLLO1:
Le t me interrust.
seally all 1 v a.c 1
23 i n t e r e s t ed in is that you d id n' t have to jo into another 4
t e s t i n-j prograu but your analysis that you av e asked the i
4 o C Our COnCe n au 13,
Of bbbb o
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d ddYlC.a h ti(dICL[
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the progr4w.
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aut since the 2
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M.1.i1NG:
That's what 1 pu in t#
3 tastin<j p r o j t.nt only went so far and still lett io iu areas 4
faico yau can't Cole up with a preciae answer, it'.
nelei;3ry
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S lor you ta account for that analytically in what yau do.
U 0:1. :tCOLLO 1:
Do e s that conclude ya u r pa r t on 7
Geetian S?
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4H.
GR A '! :
Tnat does on Section S.
There were 9
se/eral areao, I bulieve, in Section 4.< e id en t i f i ed a t, open.
10 1 can briefly leucribe those nad indicet" the ruualution of 11 thase ite<u.
2 ca e titut had ta do wi t h - - it'u indicated in
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13 Laction 4.5 on /wj e 39 ano Suction 4.11.1 on Paje 54, beving 14 to lo with tn; deai'jn of an A traae tnal
.-ill oe attacheJ to Ib a partian at the uteel pla te tu present the steel platu froa
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1G d r o p pi n :j fl a t on tu the turuine roon operating floor th a n it 17 ans oeen tr ans f er r ed acro 63 Lne floor.
That da s not lu ev al ua ted at tne t i u.e the U t:R wat written.
Ca tae Stair a3c 19 unabla to detetulne Whether the deaijn, as s uch, that it 20 would prevent that i.l u t drop.
Tne d e al'!n haa not nau it e n
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21 finalized just very recentl y and the Staff will be*lookinj at 22 that Gesign to deteroine if It will co tn" job.
23 Tne second open ite.a is indicated in Gection 4.I1 !
94 on Fa-J e 54, ano that van that a pl a t e bandlinj proposal
[>r 7
I 26 shot's ueun c all ed plate 8,
t ha t's the largest plata.
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hl prfor to
,1 ate w.>ulo be jackul oc Jne enJ of the l
2 twing tr anspo r ted across tna turoine auildinj floor, i
3 operatinj Lloor, an] the Staff hcd a concern that in jackinj j
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the end of the pl a te up, it coulo possibly be the jack could L
slip out f ro:1 und e r th-i la te.
0 l'n e Licensee no lonjer proposes to Jack the pl a te up.
7 30.. e resolved that one.
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'i'n e third itea in Section 4
.s a s indicated in Saction i
9 4.1 1.3 on peje 56 hed to do with expasin-) columns on the li 10 ana N line walls for :aakin J rein fo rc in g steel cantinuous in
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11 L.lo se areas.
The question was how aany colu' ins above 2
elevation F> b.so ul d ue exposed sinultaneously./i t a a ut
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13 de tr L.aen tully e f f ec tinj sei saic ca pacity.
Tne Licensee will 14 aJoress that -aatter.
It ' a waa t I read aa iten 'i this
-io r n i n-l lb in our s u ppl em en t al information requ2sted at the ueeting of J
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-s a r c h 7, 1900 17 Finally, we have the iteo identiti d in Section A.13 la on pa]ea 57 ana 53 having to do with the seisaic d
19 qualification ua fe ty related equipient cor anents in pi pi n j.
20 Until the final floor r e s i.o n c e spectro have boon
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21 cerivea, this.n l l renain an o pe n iteit.
'ih n t also will be e2 cadressed an iteu 2 in the list that I ha nd eo out thir 23 inorninJ.
4 fu e intant in these questions whica I read this Zb aorning and the licensee'5 addressinj those in its test iaan y amuc a s wau
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I to be filed on :ia r ch 17 in to resolve all of thear i t artG.
2 Dit. McCULLD4:
And it'o yo u r ont estiuuta th3L 3
tney can
.>e resolved?
4 4 i1. UMY:
Tue answer is ye s.
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5 im. 'icCO L LOM :
There wa s one other one that I 6
vancered if -- on pa g e 13, you talk about the~ possibility of 7
e v a l uia t i n g for nisulen araund the area ot the intluence are
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d on colutin 41 and it, has that been resolved?
9 4h. GIMY:
l'a sorry, tha t's on paje?
10 0.1.
Mc COLLO'4 :
43.
11 qu.
G1M f :
At the nonent, that has not haen 2
resolved.
- p. a really belleve that one po s s i bl e resolution to
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13 that is that the pl a n t could be shut down iurinj the e x pa n i n j 1
14 to possible tical:
ey>ouing eq u i p.a e n t ta pa s s i b l e ninoleu.
lb Au I und er a :and it, the Licensee wo uld propoce
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l 'i tather than unuttin] down to pr o te c t the e qu i p um t thr o ug h T
17 t. ie u.:; e af s o.a e t h i n j called bl a ;; t uts.
10 CtiAI 14M 4ILLW:
Ca ll ed wha t?
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19 Mit. GiM Y :
61 a s t st a t a.
20 0:1. Mc CO L L'J 4 :
But that is utill in t:: a licts ns
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21 one to be resolvcJ.
22 4it. QU\\ Y :
Tnat prapocal with rejard to using bl a n t 23 acts to protect equipment fron aissles we have.not 8ctually
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h.4 seen yet.
25 Cli A 1;tr4 M 4ILLU4:
"i r. Ax el r ad, do yau have anythinj i
n dSJ VICi! & HOZ YC K1
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i to add or..od i f y in any wa y in the list nf unresolved issuea 2
related to the first Lud?
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3 in. (J.C LM D :
.ir. Cnairman, I would nujjest that 4
perhaps if I have a chonce to discuss these chatters with ICC
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S dur in j the lunch time and return.
G C ilA I R4 A d IILLSR:
'6h y d o n ' t we recess?
7 da. /U;u Ln!sD:
I wo uld l iite to aake one remark that j
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O 1 thian Wauld be unatul beforehand.
9 CHAliMAN.lILLSR:
All r i'J h t.
l lu 1R. AXCLaAU:
I do sant to aake sure that the Eonrd i
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11 understand ene at the purposes for the meetinj with t.u: Utnff
.2 an :ia re n 7 via s tu a t t e.a p t t o wne sure that We und e r s tood
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13 en c tl y snat the concerns vie r e.
A nuaber of thase concerns 14 expressed in the Sua from our utandpoint sera souewhat broad.
lb We think that we had a very use f ul uo e ti n.I witn tha Etaff on 16 Mbico 7, und we believe that the ?, u p p10M e n t a l inforaation i
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.ih t c h they.iave raquested frou us constitutes a, unat w? sa y,
lu a r e f i n e:a e nt, clarification of the type of inforaation thay 19 need, Which tii ll t n.J n help to r e s->lv e the irroal NC, and 20 therefore we hi.ve a m uc h better tetjet to aia at th;'i we
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21 sould have if se.a r e t a l k i n:) about sTic of tha statelents 22 contaiacd in the SSR.
l 33 An.1 I think thar.'s what Cr. Gray intended to r e f.e r 4
to just before, the list of in f o r :.:a t ion is o refineaent of l
25 the
.2 R in thov2 particular areau to reflect tbt typv of l
3 4 J V I C ai 6 H OL IC K I l
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1 informatian which would recojve the Oldft'; c o n c e r n.9 and i
2 preuu.dably no add i t io nal infortwtion %yono tim t in acce Mry 3
tar t h o..e p u r go e e:i.
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C il.T I R 'li,3 41LLCR:
Yo u vill jive that co n s i.i e r a t io n,
5 tuen, ovet the lunch r e ce s s?
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3 "i R. ALd LR A O:
Yes.
7 CliTitrMN MILLER:
eu wil1 then ask the $taf1 to o
1.idress the sa:ae tii nd of inquiry to tha second OER related to 3
the wall pruoleu, ttw second G U:t by the Staff.
10 I taluh we will then, ;ver the lunch hour, alna be J
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.j o i n J over thoau natters that Dr. NOCollou relatal to 2
pr eviou sly.
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lJ G.
AXULRAD:
Me do have those copies and'can 14 diatribute 15 C:i \\ 1.M M A I L Lidit :
- 'l i o t va are trying to do is D
16 identity and explore uny areaa,
whatever t he y.ad y be, large, 17 d aall, technical, whdtever, if we can all f r> c u.3, it will be 13 of help to oli o[ us in puttinJ out evidence for the lV telinenent of th31r contentions.
Give that 30.6e thaujht, if 1
2U you wauld and have e chance to canfer w i t.h your sitnessoa anc
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21 expe r ts bo that we can jet in our tr ou sc r i pt, eveatually.
1 22
'w will have coveted, at least, the great uulk of l
23 the kinds of issues that are goin] to be confronted at the
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A evidentiary huacinj, at course, ptior to t h ma.
25 We will recess.
1:30?
D aa wico s aozy m a
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1 Ad. a030L1L:
I w mt to aake sure that no:wwhere 2
alonj the line the matter o f.
the security arable a, the matter
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3 at Trojan ' jets a; dressed.
t' a t, that stipulation?
4 C d A I u.il!W 41 L L L; :
- 13 t is a
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5 AR. dO30LlE:
Yes.
5 Ci h 1 R tlA N
'l I L L U t:
Srinj it up thiG afternoon.
7 1H. AXSLRAD:
Mr. Chairman, vauld it M useful if D
U Ar. ib so l le in fo ro.s us o f wha t he has in mind so wa can t.hinL j
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abaut 1 over the recess?
10 C [l/s lii 4 AN A I L L C :1 :
Yes.
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11 M n.
AXELRAO:
I aa nat sure I know what the pt obl e;i 2
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O 13 4k.
dO'.i O L I U :
The pr o bl em 10 awhile ajo, I don' t 1
14 n i:v e the exact d a te, the Uta f f cent out a stipulation to be i
15 31-j ned by the intervenors dealin'j with secarity entters or
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1G our security contention that we raised.
Since that tiae, 17 certain oatters or certain in c id encc J have occurred on Trojan I c.
Nuclear Pouer Plant a n :t I belleve recently P3C Licensee was
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19 fined 313,000 for security violationa and have paid a certain 20 amouat of that, and yet no information has been forthcoainj C
11 f r ora the Staff in those uatters.
22 C HA I H'4.W 11I L L L R :
acll, I thoujht you were referring 23 to the question af L.ucurity practices and i,r a c ed u r e s at one Ia e24 po int..here we had asked for a yripulation f o r thco'a in j e) b b
k' h aik a. O o
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a nd 60 forth rather t h 2ul addressinj in c icae r a, I helleve that 2
the Sta f f did have a revised upd a t ed stuly ando of security 3
proceriures.
The security plan, insofar as it roldted to any 4
uodi[iCations and tna like, I thaught th3t was the qu2stion b
we i. e r e brinjin] up.
I was not prepared to go into ariy of 0
these otner caattern that I near yo u no w raising, o'tetner or 7
nst tnJy were refineJ, 1 don't believe that has aaythin! to
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.d t h this procendinJ.
9 si h. R J'iO L1 E :
I believe there were certain 1
10 a t a te.3 e n t s
.a ad e ty tna Naalcar Me juletary Ca n tission Gtaff
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11 that appearud in s o.si e news reporth about the Staff 2
- lue s t i o n in j whether P.l M Licensee uan aSle to i'.1 p l e a e n t
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- ecurity practices at the fo r j an Nuclear Power Plant.
14 C!1A 1Wl/W '11 LLM:1:
Sa11, to t% uodifications ar Lb related to the interiu operation with co nd i t i o n s and.; o forth?
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1C 1H. hai'J L I U :
Related to, i q ua ss, o v e r a.I.1 17 aperati>.is of the plant IS
- iiild 4 /J.
41LL71:
Tu a t '., my quartion.
Ov e r all 1) o p e c t. t i o n 3 would n' t be any difforent.
hhatever the i s s ue :>
20 auy De,
,ould be no dif ferent an for as the in te rvenor:, are
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21 concerneu, wo u.l d not be within the j uri sdiction o f thia noord.
22
(( taere are other matters you an t to go into, pu are 33
- f. aca ll i u r sitn how to ao it, to snow cause and so forth.
4 bl. :10 0 0 L 1 6 :
It the Licentou cannat 1.i pl e le n t 2, 5 securit y aa tters on a r e j ul a r ba si:1, thun how can they mmc h r, ha mt
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hl rejulate securit y ma tters dur in j c nodiCication phas-ihen
'ersonnel are ad d ed ?
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nell, e<tra persannel hi.v t
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., h o w, not to nave any pa r tic ul a r rolevancy as I can see.
You
[aisin.) siu a s t i a n s that yo u are entitled to raise in other
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6 forua and in otour ways, iaclulinj ad iinistra tively and i
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7 incl ud in j, as yau have been toli, by the Appeal Board, by 1
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J r e.fu e u t s tor show cause.
Th o s a vio ul d be whether or not vo u 1
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9 have the aeismic proble:i, ubether or not y>u have the 10 Mioc i f i c a t io n, whather or not w were here.
! Ta a t it relevant D
11 in those thin.ju that have acc ur r ed nave at least s o m.
2 relationsnip in a.;ausal sensa with the reasons e are hare
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13 in raisinj t h o._, e a the r,aa tte rs whic.1 you wo uld have in your i
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.aind a n y W,1 y ion' t have any bearinj upon (n0 j u r i nJi iC lio n or l
1 15 the,> u r v i e w o f the proceedings this accrd will take, D
15 Ou, i !! you via n t la think about it if fau can Shaw 17 ou it enf via y there is 6 caussl connection between the issue.
13 th6L da ere ceased of cojnizance over and that wauld nat b.
IJ exidt or w)uld exist in the s uae fora aut [or these questiona i
20 that are./ithin our purview, akay, se vill hear fro;. yo u, but
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21 can't tr y la uae thib proceedinj to jet into other 'aatters 22 Jil i c a are, I wo n' t say
.l en e r ic, but which are related to the j
23 operational ;,l a n t, that be there whether or not wa vete here.
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J4 So Jive it so:ac thaujht in that paint of view.
I f' you dove l
2S anythinj that you L e c.1 in causally related, we vii ll here
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J.a y, se sill take our lunch 3
r ec e s:2, about 1:30.
i t1 (WGJN RECli 3)
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!s Ci(AI.i M N A I L Liui:
Aru de reaJy to proceed, ladios i
G ana jentlenen?
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I think yau have nad an oppo r tuai ty ta st uJ y the
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d tranceript af p r oc e eu i n:J s pajes 315, et ce tera.
I will ask j
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.fr.
"ic Co l l ot..
tilu present situa tion of the questioria that arn 10 ii e l in i a t ed in ther
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11 Dr. ACo l l o'a.
' ;(,, ic C J L La d :
<.l t h a u:J h I
'l i d r ev i a a ;> a i t.
31 M over
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.m e r. e nc;, 1 can't be sure that I have answered any ir cll 14 of these questions, so s a: te of t he.,.my be already nandled.
15 uawever, I would like to repeat t h n. s o.a e wha t : tora succinctly
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1G thaa were r e ge r. L e a ia the arijinal tranccript.
17 I have a utabe r ri these this tiae, anJ in perticuler, id I sa ulu line to po i n t out tqat No n.
1, 2,
3, 9 vic 17 ire 19 ao.a e wha t r el a ted.
I will identify the paje that 1 ia Lahing 20 tnis froa sa that yo u can Jet the sjlitional informativn
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J.1 relatud to it if you wish.
22 franuctipt l'a j e 31 rA, Li n e 11,
' V:ia t are the 2 ;.
criteria that.. e snauld use t3 assure that the Jantrol
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A daiiding la brou;bt lata suntantial co,pl ianc e and thu
.O i n t e !Kl G J Q e S i J n ;.la r:J inG !a9 t? "
n.an C u u avaCat
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2, 2 is Paje 3166, Line LG,
'On abat basis will it hl 1
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v2 d e t e r;a i n ed that the modified structure will he,v c increased i
3 seisaic capacity to cofely resist tha 0.15j 12L forces with 1
4 tha marJ ins inherent in the orig inal d e:;i j n criteria?"
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5, tr anscri pt Pa;c 31G7, Line 15, ' ua s do you 1
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ussure yourself thet yau have act the at i:j in al desig n l
7 criteria and are in suustantial co.a pl i a nce with that criteria J
o as set out in the tec hn ic al specificatians?"
9 A li. AXSLRio:
Dr. McColloa, co uld you speak more 10 sl owl y?
I inaw we are hav ing a transcript, but it.nuld he i
D 11 useful to have it today.
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trbnscript Page 316 :, Li n e 17, "W should kn3W
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13 just how the
>u ild in j coJes ; e r:ait this kin:1 of test resulta 16 to ~
u.s ed in oeotinj the code s ecificc.tions.
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15 b,
transcript Paje 3159, Line 1,
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16 co ac l uu c tiis t tau ca r thiius ke. j ro und responsa spectra has a 17 vertical jrounu acceleration t ha t's t wo thirac of the 10 no r i za n t al a c c e l e r t. t i o n. '-
19 5,
Paje 31 39, Li n e 16, "I s uj j e st that it ;ould be 20 helpful to coupare the increase of tne structural capability 1
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21 by placinj before and after capacities and fo rcen on the,;a m e 1
22 d i ag r o.a.
23 7,
Pagu 3170, Line 1, "Tne existinj wall capacities
'ased on the te s t i n:j results using the to tal 4
are Je ter ained o
25 dead loud on the sall red uc ed by 20 oarcant La accouat for D
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hl Lne vurtical e a r tiq ua.- effect.
baa and viy wn: that done?"
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,aje, 3170, Line In, "A careful review of 2
n, sane 3
any sa f e t y-r el c L ed e qui paen t tha t ni ght be 1.a pec t ed.sy any 4
conceivable we l l deterioret. ion should be % !u.
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v uj e 3170, Line l 'i, "How wa, the construction of G
the co a pu si t walls taken into conaid e r a tio n in ueetini the 7
buildinj code r eilu i r ea en t s tar the ori.jinal specilicatians
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6 and construction waan there was no Uni f o r41 duildinj Code
.9 r equir e2ien ts u yropr ia te for that kind o f con s tr uc t ion.
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.4uuoer 10, transcript Pa.j e 3170, Lint 75, "nauw iaw 11 a J.!- i nc h type A
<,a l l with a vertical lood at 105 PG1 sould unit saaer capacity 18 vercent greater than a niailar 2
nave a
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13 24-inch wall.
14 Waauer 11, traaucript Pale 3171, Li n e 11, '.in a w haw 15 t he s t r uc t u t <.1 steel colur.as in the sheer walls will be used D
1G in determining tim failure l i m i t a t i o n.s of the Cantrol 17 duildinj walls, if an/, or if it is used as a sa fe t y f ac to r 10 instead."
19 L2, transcript Pa J e 3171, Line 15, " Chaw wiia the r the 20 Jaitota dulldinj Code provides for the use o f and allowa
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21 accouatinj for tha.ao t e sophisticated analysin of tha seisaic 22 forces provided by tiie JLard ine Analysis."
23 13, tr ansc r ipt Paje ~317 2, Li n e 1,
"I sauld like to D
gA hose in fo r.aa tion on the proced ur e o f e: aced u to connect the 25 uall wito r e i n f o r c i n.) steel."
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hl 14, Paje 3172 startinj with Line 7,
" A co aple te and
.nutallotion pr o c eci u r e shauld be pr ov id ed for all of J
2 Octoiled l
3 the steel platas.
Nuaber lb, pwj u 3173, line 3,
"Show t
4 waether the d r i ll iirj of the holes in tne
..a l l for the bolts J
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b has an y d e.j r oria tlon o f the s t r e n:J t h o f the walls for the 6
Latal a:ao un t of drillin3 that is done.'
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Go. 10, Page 3173, Lina 12, P r ov id e an evaluation d
of the temperatur e coef ficient of expansion effects that j
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..ii<jht take place between the steel pla te and the concrete j
10 wall to wqich it is cound and te n si o n ed once the concrete 11 sall has reached full strength."
2 17, P a p.
3173, Line 21, "Show whether there are any 13 tensian effects in the bolts tnat influence the wall strenJta."
14 18, Page 3174, Line 7,
" De te r.a in c if there is any j
lb foretecable passioility o f an im pac t on tne rail s to p in the D
16 t.urbine Duilding that r.t ig u t r e sul t in a force ajainst the l
17 f ci c e af the Control building if tne stop acre to fail anu l
I 10 va u t this v/o ul d do to the construction of the Wall sher; it i
19 wuuld it ipac t on the Control Build i nj. "
20 19, PcJ e JL75, Line 2,
' Identify all safety relate!
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21 e <j ui pi ten t includinj cables at an y po in t where there is any 22 potential impact of construction pr o ced ur e s and te c hn i qu e s.
23 20, Paje 3175, Line 17, "Deteraine it there is any J
4 reason to believe that there aig ht be e scalinj factor for 25 the. ability of walls to withstand seisolc forces with the 1
i aumu u wmCa
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1 a b.a e a si.ec t ratio but.a uc h larJer as occurb in the Cantrol 2
ijuildini co.a pa r ed to the test modelb.'
3 21, Pcje 3176, Linc 99,
' ue te r.a ine if there is a o
diffectat effect on the atreus versus the ') i c ul a c em e n t in a
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b wall il the f rerjuenciou o f c yclin ) ucre b i j h a.; in an 6
earthyaake compared to thJ test frequencies used fo r the wall 7
evaluations."
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6 i'n o t completes the liGt.
I can't quite f i:a u r e out 9
abut happcoed to the -- ahat ha ppened on the botton of paje 1
10 317G
.m r e it refers to Augen.11x 0.
All I know is that 1
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it.auot have bezn taken out under Jivision 3.
11 can't iinc Now, I really do ua j e r s t a nci t ha t came of those are O'2
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13 beinj addressua and ha/e been cddrusued, but I still think 14 there are ones tuat -se are joing to have to react to oefore 1
lb ae c a n
...a.u o ur f.inci decision.
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16 I saula quasa I :hould.aake como r e:a nc ks abaut 17 nunour la ajain.
Or. Paxton said ny aatdinj sait that I lb expecteu it ta feil.
I juit sn u l d lir>
to hrn aa ovalu.tlon 19 of what it in that is ua puc t ed to c o: m in thete in the ayof 20 a load in to the tur oin e building an: snuther th2re i r, any
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21 foreceeaule pouLibility of that iapect b r e a k i n'j th r >ulh.
A nti 22 then if there were such an event to accur, in there any i
23 por tic ular thing
- t. hat would ha p pe n to the cons tr uc tion o f the 4
sall on the Cantrol daildia.J.
l 25 J ilA lit Mr' '4ILLLR:
Ate there any questi3as?
I J o u :.
l) dCUVICu a ROZ YC.'I
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h1 i t's ver y cleer, then.
2
/. n. M ;LRAD:
Mr. Cursirnan, I laula li'a ta uaku 3
sure I und e r :.s t a n :.
Thesa questicas are substituts f >r the i
i 4
.iu u s t i o n s in the pr ev io us transcript.
They ar e : tore refined b
t r a n a.c r i pt.
,e can concentrate on these as o,)po sed to the U
..>re/lous vercion?
7 CHAIN 4AN l41 L LU 1:
'!e s,
nnythinj further on tnis U
po i n t?
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E.
ladLRAU:
if recollection of Dr. 40 Ca l l o 'a ' s 10 t>r ev io us directive to us in cannection with his questions i t.
11 tnat ire dio n' t particularly care at what time we acid r e s s a d 2
thea, either in the pr e pa r ea teutimany or at the tiue of the
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13 naaring orally.
- e certainly wauld try to the best e:< te n t we 14 co uld to edaress thmi in the pr e par ed te s t i.aon y but it uay ba 15 sarethinJ i -a
,,o u l d defer until the actual pr e se n ta t io n of tha
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16 hearinj.
17 CilAId 4 Al IILL-: :
Yes, that'o correct.
16 Are there any other unresolved issues, in this 19 catejory of lasues as to which this hearing will add rens 2U itself?
Alth rulerence t.u w tudoy --
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,M.
AAC La A D:
4r. Caalrusa, I w:) Ll u just like to 22 r e L pa nd to what the Baard has asned ua to with r es pec t ta th" 23 Uta fi's enu'neration of the o [e n iteus lid with r e.;pec t to the d4 Control buildin].
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I Enink the Staff lia s ideatifitu by anj l e r JJ e the u i. ) V lC il % d Ol /C N 1
I 3517 l
l hl matters that were r e fl ec t e;l as open etiu:aent in the gen.
-J e 2
adve had ot'ter discussions with the Staff cince the S il was 3
isuaea.
Tnere are soae ma tter s which weren' t referred to as 4
open iteas in the 3 0t where se have ta l ke? to the Statf anJ
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ca ta in ed soue clarification of what the Sta f f had in nin<i, 1
G Uoth in the SUd and in the pr o po se d conditions tnat we r en' t 7
throujh in the S Eit.
I don' t believe at this point there in D
any aeed to identif y any particular items.
o 9
We will in the cource of the testimony that we 10 present by March 17 discuss any uatters shere we think there 1
11 is saae clarification which
.t o u l d be useful for all par t ie s,
2 includinj the Board, to be aware of or if we have any Q
13 continuinj questions with the Staff as to any of the matters 14 saich weren't identified as open,
'a u t where there does ap; ear lb to be s o,a e difference between us.
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16 Une of the thin:Js that we probaoly ;ill be l '/
addressinj is shether any of the pro po s ed co nd i t ion s l
l la c i cc ua a eci by the Staff in the BCa r esul t in n'a a e c h a n:j e n in l
1) con s t r uc t ion sc hac ul i n'; and therefore uljht require so.te 2U additional pe r iod fo r construc tion beyond that proposed by 3
21 the ; toff.
And also, there sere c o.a e of the c o nd i t io n:.
22 pr o po sed by the Staff including the limitation on the pe r iod
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23 o f.
time in snich the work should be perforaed.
Tnat ve JO j
- 4 probaaly will address in our testinony an
- 1 in our j
4 i
1 25 presentation to the uaatd.
4 J
esovrea s auzycu s
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l ElO l
h 1
Cri!\\l.l G U elILLLd:
I thinR Ws hal asked,.:l so, to l
r l
- atterL r e'j a E.l i n j the
>JCond 2
idunt1Ly any oth?r bore;olved s
S o is a f.
tne Staff w?iian addressou itself to the n o-c c l 3 e 'l wall 4
.iu e s t i a a.
i b
'i d. G 'l i. i :
<i r. C n a i r i i b.1, I L on' t. ~; e l i e v e t h a t'.
se j
6 bcVe id en t i f i eu Lea y o p,en itc n in that
.m l l proult i li b.
'I have requeutuo tra t there oc 3ane testinj done to confira
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i in f o raa tion and an y 'J a ta that
.a have.
L' u t we d it' not id e n t i ti y any af it, i
10 C!!a lu il.. 41LL.A:
, ell, if yo u ccquedted auditional
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11 a c, t a, 11 it
.le r e out satisfactory.Cor th3 pur pa se for whica 2
it
'.Ta 3 r eijlle S t ed, then yo u Vauld hnVP an iSSu2,,i d u l d h ' L yJu?
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13 cut. udii:
then that would Jast out unen ocae other lo cata todt e; ve r e relyin j on and tna t would -- it :ould, I
[h judsb roibe t j u S S t. l a n u, y d.2 15
'N 1Ik 1/O' 4 I L L!.Rt :
nan
<!i l 1 ua kn'n, w:; a t h u r ani
.ri e n ?
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id.
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T i t ei r 0 [ !-
af I JUOJ3, a 7 / O-p la r t LOST C0+ t pl e tc d vii t in i n t!)O D O < t.
, r a j r Dia, ons of j.'l l C i; Ulould Jt l t:
19 suVUr01
<,0 0 S.).
20 fa ? reaaining test ar o j t a i
'Ja act Data finaliu, as
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21 to its diaenbions alw how thu tastinj will be perforied, a n:
22 i s us [e,; t tuat th3
/3 c o rra u n '3 a>uld n]t be ac t ua l l y j
23 foI: ulated urg t il s o g., t i;;.3 i r1 --
J4 Th.
- id.!al f
In j ic a to'.i la y.
l 25 ta.
- s ie\\ i' :
I think the Licennae has i nC ica ter'
<ay.
u tuVIC u & im 'j u ', l
...m
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C !1's llO1 T N :4I LL ER :
The po s i t i a n, I Juess, that y)u 1-are tdLiirj is that tM Lesting E410 the result 3 to 90 a D t a i n e;i J
thereby would not a f f ect the evidentiary near ity; is that i
4 cotrect?
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5 43.
G, ti. '! :
,lel l, the purpose of the testing u di s to l
5 aouity.aarjinn.
There was test data r el i ed u pon for the 7
resolution of the.sall problea which is n>t d ir ec tl y J
~3 a hl ic a ble and.. c are t r y i n'J to get te s t data that, in fact, 9
is directly a p pl ic 6bl e wit i c h we believe will simply con fi ru 10 a nd qu'antify the niarjins t i.a t we believe are there, but' we i
l' don' t know wh S t the size of the raa rg in s are.
2 Othidiu :41 LLC:,:
Jhat if it c:oe sn' t coaCiro?
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13
- is. Ulri
De i'e ntl i n j on -- wall, thare is a whole 14 ranje of "wnat if it doesn't?"
It.aay well raise questions l
lb in the avent which saae aart o f action nay hwu to be ta ken 0
15 with r e j a rd to the claim.
17
- 03. cic C O L LO1 :
%nich part will be done in the next 10
.few aae r s?
19 UP Yi:
Tne pa r t la tha next few -eeks ulll be 20 te a ts ahich woulu verify the load carrying ca pability of tna C
21 in te r f ac e uetween tua layers of block with mortar b e t '.le e n the 22 bl oc k.
These are in what's called the <to ubl e block walls.
23 raase are 14-inch thick and 1-inch t: fick walls I au told.
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-. 4 this to canfirnt that they have nortar behind t h e,n?
25 sin. Ga Y1:
No, not to con fi ra that, but to con fi ru O
S U VIC;i & RuiYCKI
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1 the actuel s t r e n j t. h o f the bond t !ia t tne aartar proviles.
2 1(,
ACCULvJd:
Is tn2 JLafC basing its conclusianu
,. alls on the ai.13 af an JS pt rcent j
On the attenjth ut the i
Lill?
I believe tha t ' s t h e.-
n u..i b e r that you have :m e n belare
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S a s c c :il"2 r ed to a larJer nuaber.
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lE::.i!( I E :
T.1 9 initial 7 c: ( Which. ta z, sritten
'i shich you have oefore y c> u i3 caned on an assu aption o f an %
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U s.a r c a n t.
tetd wnile we still stand behind that USH, 1 a:t sure U
you nave read Dr. Colvile's re por t rijht now.
'ie did raine 10 Ja ae concerns diica ce felt should be add r e ssed on uore 1) e<gedited usia given,; ba c war raised in Dr. Colv il e ' s r e ito r t.
. le Jid proviGe 60 de 6dditianal information Whien is G u')) nC C S'2
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13 to tiie t e are so*ic Gouuts over the inf oraa tion itself 14 uecause af Jo. m igossible inelcyaacies in the test p r T_; r a :a 15 on ahich that infor2ation wa s d e r ived.
'e are doinj further
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16 loo.m at it ourselvea rijht now.
aawyer, uu atill ateno 17 achind o u r S r.it and I believe there is Ta r J in there.
- hawever, 18 sita tra Calvile deport, we feel th:i t it ihauld be verificl 13 on a ; ue n cha r te r-t e ra banis a nd t' h a t ' n the p ur po se for 20 co M ue t i n j t n.?
in plant testa of u:merinj the in te r f ac e an
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21 30ue r e L io usi wall.
22 UA.
.1; C O L L Pi :
' hat aucut the concern about the 23 collaceG ;ointb ot t ri e ilor ta r da uble blo;L ua sonr y walla not G4 Ocinj fizied pr o pe r l y?
25 G.
h,.t I L -!G :
'Jn e y C o a pl e ted drillinj ope r a tia ns an 3 C JVld t! L :!ud YC 61
11
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1 LM.0113 3a utrusaea }raater t :i a n ievi n and i: 301f LG 1
<inc' 2
th"
- <a r c o a t a f - 401 ta r fill now ia 11 ' ; rcent verau; tha
'L 3
percent we a u s u cu J in our initial evaluatian.
4 ih.
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'Ir. Cha i r;a an, t!u t in f o re tio n is
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b contained in Lne ria t c h 6 letter whicii Dr. McCollom h it i
copy at it inf r e, at yo u r r e np t-t st.
6 m aa't have.
w nave o 7
Dis. scCOLLui:
'l h e r e sa u une other question in
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s there on pa j e 7 of that ':'::t that said that concern wa r2ise1 9
nat toe approach of using 1.5 tiu s t ile U -t C workinj strucs 10 al loua bl e s at tne acceptanco criteria if the factored 11 concrete load equations
.u y not have the intunded oar; ins 2
asucciated nith tile lesig n of the aalld to renict iuc of
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13 e l a u-:
s a i s.a i c loadinja for a..lant at that v i n t a.j e.
Nno th<n 16 y'a u Jc.y Lnat it's all riiht uatil thc avaluation of the,nllu i
1L to withstead o u t-a f pl ane loadu are quantifid by tastinj.
j J
15 l o.4, that latter statenent, in tha t the
'.a y test 17 that you r;1errea L')
arlier?
lb
-i n. :ic..u 1 E;:
.011, that will be,/1it la la tenta t ively sc hed ul ed for discuusian between tha MC and the 20 t,1ctus3e in
,uy.
inwever, that has been ind ic a ted au beinj S
21 cualinjent u pu il h)W thib hePEin'j p r DC C Cd ili j tjouS, the J U t c S.d e 22 of the oduitional an a l y9 e s that tney are Prfaruinj ri-jht n :m.
i i
- U Jiirilli l A 4 41 L L.Ch:
I thin; ne are all uWare of th3 4
fact that at o ur jreVion) Phdue 1 :tadr in j, we l u[>t haVinj 1
l Zb notu and aore r(quuuts for additional inforaation, 7tudioc;,
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c d f.) d k k$ )t i\\d
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h1 f ull raspnae spectra a nd the lik;, ana w
.a n t la avolo t h a t.
2 in t.his 9videntiary w:arinj.
3 1
at.i not clear in my a-n 4iirc1 w he: t h e r whut you have 4
t o.l C.
uJ :le an s se si l l c u f: f i c ie n t intornation, date, stulies
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b
- n.o t.e s t i. i a r, to 0 0 :1 u to reaban fuujemento in this. utter and G
that certain atha co n f i c.ai: t i o n testu are so. ie th i n 'J that the
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L:. L u f f 16 ruquirinj Dut that it is nat neconnary far thib o
oaord to nave it to mak-a j ul pie n t. ar w:a t n e r yau are J
Lellinj us that 4e are n st j o i n'j
~0 bcVe sufficient i
10 a n t a r..a e t'i a n 6 t. our e/id entia r y hearing for us to aaw a final 11 j ud y,ae n t.
1 As r,a t certain shich it is.
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- > el i e v e tia.t it's the outcoqe af thia 2
ib.
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13 la n j u r-ta rs i t.e s t, tim M y test, is not relevant to the 16 d e t e ri,li n a t i o n that this aard nas t9 nue, and tast in 11;
., h e t. h e r tne nodificatianu will suautantially restore tha D
lu aarJ ins in t e nd ed in the licenua.nd which nra not there 17 accause ut tue Con t r ol 1:.u i ld i n j oesi;nej efficiencica.
!!s O fi ila n t.N 4 Iia.ai:
Da you il a n to have Jr. Calvile O
l.;
here to m tify as a witness?
J'J
/bl. Git h Y :
ic da nOL Olan t.O haVe Dr. ColVile here.
21 J u A l min, a l t.L t h:
Do yc, o think you s h a ulii unless y;u joinj to tell us anu tah" a Ciro g> s i t. i o n that LMse 22 arn 23
- aatters are not relevent to that proc e ed in.), there is o third -
924 aitctnative that w :en d i v.* u a s there.
% yb e there la a view 2b p.) int wnich jau each gut on your testimaily cnd tha sc a rc' cea i
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1 c o:d e
- t. o a deciulon il thera
,a r 3 u rc> u j h evilence.
>>e 0An't t
2 cenlly 1.u 11 at thin paint.
I don' t oae it au :;t in J t o ti. ll y l
3 ci-a & r.
i 4
i 4
4r. i. < c l r M, do yo u nave any viosn on this, an the b
Lic:ensee?
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/a ; LWW:
Ye s, we n i.. v u ha the
-i.n e inuition t
7 uhich the Utait hau e presstd with rsapect to thin.atter,
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nia, el ; that the prablen with t e r. p r c t to the salls inent IM o
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b e.,j. u n t 7 U 1 ')
di G.ia t ter s reVidwco by lue Sta f f i nd e b C nfi c a ll i 10 an-sich are nat 3ul t ic ien tl y telated to t!!c ca c L l o c J belore J
J 11 this bautd that Lauru ia cay need Lur th+
.oard to a? dress j
j lL thea.
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13 Pn.m2 cre nouble b l o c r.
/alla that are be i n.J L a l i..f c d
a 14 daut, not the coupasit.. a l l s in,aich the orijinal aniJn
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15 delicien lcG a r c; L The baal 0 natters are involvej in tha i
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13 inturaatian which the Staff lu seeking ahicii
.m are t r y i n ;: ta j
i 17 c>r o v i d u ic in f o r.:atian wi th r e s,; e c t to out-of-planc l o ad in i,
f 10 Which is uin Lau:ially related to the in-Flanc l o t.d i :r j wi iCa i
l,u,
. c. v u nica tbt D 0 ;.110 lub j a.; t ni_ t iii s pr ace mt in ).
9 O
20 he are iroviuinj the i n f o r..a t i:> n t !!n t thE Staf.f i
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21 aued6 to reusl/c th6La aatterh.
O J in i : f.
at the _nd of i
22 Jo c e:a b e t a f t er tua occcc dccide1 that there waL no lo nif e r J3 nc0essary ta teuttain o pe r a t i o ri ;rovidia') th> kinj of j
4 i n i.o r, ia t ia n tha Staff wanted.
e will ou providin] the short l
l
.. L t e r.a infataation the Etaff r ut;ui r ed an., we will praviot loter
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t p
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i un ditcr th) 31.o r t t e ri i L e i, t s dte d o ne.
it wil3. l c c i d '_
.v i t : i 2
tn3 J t at i f und Col elete t:ie l on j-te r. ' t e i t :a w.l i c h th: Jtall t
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3 r u q u i t e :., did! which i t h ln i; are.iar e r tla t eo la anather plant, n.mre janeric type i r o ')l e.6, and i. e J o t' t 330 any need of the
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5' kind of infor.ution acinj developw in the coure of tlm LLU l
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7915 continuing t u v i e ',. tu ba c a n.3 i d e r e i ;y the
,M o r j nar la I.
i n 6 2 4 d a : 's o f.
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re a..
toe i,a u u a a ul ti; respeJt L '; the bau e c
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v the MoallicnLiJas.
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.' a u l d
,3.aO J O D y a nc.;wC F thU 4d0 5ti / h s
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i 4
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i,.s Lnc na uD1 c bl0;s t.i llG ar l' r c the 400bl6 bl00k W&lLG u '; e -
D 11 1.1 Lh; b t :i r '.; j u u
- o; m l (plonetic s p 3111 n j ) in t ! D..
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'J e t u t ; i n a t i o n of the ca pcc i t y?
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that ia
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c o a a e tw t m u_e n tu ca sait y o r tha.a
.,n i n in o ur 17 calcula'iun that ir
,, m n ' t c: n t u t on our c',>or;i213ity.
IL lh.
u t, m i l., ' :
i hethat J1 n)L ther. Unre -- i f t e i.?
., i j n j o !. i d i O n c i t i. '. fit bt try jere t')L C1;e t t al odil'!i:
li j
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,,. Jane gurfectl, 4, t 20 proce ainj Jiu not e.: i a t.
cn' e v.-: r y t n i n j bai**
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r. ! [' k. t (;I r.#
1dI t ! l it V <: 1 )(.' u,1 1.e I i t '.
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22 abil p r o l310 n b uld still exi t.
/MJ th6 r e a to't far tLat 1:
teficien:y in t,
m,nr; le :i j a co<ie,
2) that that e r u m,1 1, i t, a
'4
,vnen It C O.h' $
'J O,Jn La L le 7e ty}.'b Of loadit;jSe
'y J U k n 7,J,
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d s./ ; i ' 4 I
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h1 that there iu a lack of t o '. t lata.
~ ;l e to l':W
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/u n! I c n-> s ra u r can.1.ultint, laven't um i
3 Uny.
i'o r ti o n'! Generdl Ll e :: 1. r i c ilasn't
'ie u n a l t: to - a da 5
,ii t h any t h :a t ' a oitectly <.jplic, ale to thia ty,-
>f 3itu.! Lion
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a Line Lne co0ea that.. r e u s e<>
fot
.auonry idi r e.m tot n o t. 'i a !
ildla.) sn.
'mupital type construction A rc t h.
,e ui.a r t.i ;n t
..s u o
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luco inj, ors nat pr e sent a.i are not a concern.
L L.
.;CuLLai:
1 lu sa rt.11 3, thm, Lh !!
lutL th?
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1 laca > a c r,
- n fau in t u r..n al sono af the ue ; tion
- that i 3
lu
.:k
.arlier w 1eteraint naw you are join
- La Ut :isic
.a n il
.-c h ; L criterie i. c c,ou joing to ceciC2 that you hc/s n ) i; t !: t rijinal intention.
1>
thst'-
just a c o-t a e'i t L :>
12 th:,
/ that
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lJ lt a g. <.. c a to -. oc if t h.: y ::ii j b l be r e.1 .
concera.
I will put it that da y.
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/i L:s aur e x p -e r t.
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,oulo y3u 11 t :> :ia v t al luiLt
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hi m ul ti y
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1 We so u lt.1 line to hwe your view on thut.
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!iaw :auc h o f thin t ntin.3 is un the 3
o u t.-o f-pl a n e loadinj capacity of thu walls os con pe r ed to th" j
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aaility to ne cale to hanile the ahuer streso?
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C)uld you pl e a se r e pe a t that?
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flaw much o f yo u r testinj is related
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only to the aut-al-plane l o ad i n.] as coapared to the ability
's of the wall tv &;t aa a sheer rest.raint capac it y in tnat la d i r ec t i o n'?
11 4H.
M K elI N G :
You are referrinj to the e<pedited 2
1)otLion at the tuutimany that's.joinj on naw pl u s thin longer
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13 ccaje te:> tin j projtaW l4 DH. ACC3 LLO1:
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It will be focusin j in on th-13 out-of
- 1. lane capacity.
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"ill there he any information out of Id there that will bear an the 3tren lth o f th2 walls to vatend 19 to the se i s:iic sheer f a c to r?
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el L R K I N G :
The testinj pro'j r am wo uld considet
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21 the e f. f e c t s af the i n-pl ane on the aut-ci-plane c a p r: i t y.
l 22 out ( pa us e) 23 Cihla q ui AI LLus :
Well, wa want to think about thin J
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Is there an y rao r e inforaution 2L L'a a t anyone caa jive us in 4acistin'j in nett.rmininj whether canca a men
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3M7 h1 or not it'a within the ]uriudiction or survim of thi.i Paardi 2,
2 Al 1 Iitht, we vil1 e x pe c t.
to hear --
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rir. Chd i t : ton, I sm uld polut out I thinh t
4 that.aa t le r we i ld midress in a filln; back >rlor to the
'earinj in Dec c a:>er.
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noce.nher?
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Yes.
] ina not " ur e of the inte.
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Leliuve it tacty n.w e been De c e: 1ber ?lnt.
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have o copy we coula look
.1 t overni;ht?
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I a.a 3ur e that we do, Mr. Cuajr:oa.6, Ond LUG btd(( d t.
the linU
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15 in te r en t in Lbhi 79LS, in cur filin1: c;ith
- t. h. aaard in:! ! a a t ed P
to
.. e t m) u i n t eney ut; wa r., t e aattero.
nna in oli trone.nm,
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20 rac; o... j t i o n af uberntlan, o f co ur w:, : hot die n )t ettent D
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the no c to l Siuitsrly hau :e t e r.a i n c ;l
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21 L le t th000 attern could ir o p:: t l y
'm h,1 ! 1 b-1 ani c o n t i n u t.
to I
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handlen iny nua'>er o!
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I aa not sujje.itinj yo a d id,
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Cnairs.un.
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I recell t 'le contention that yo u 5
sete describinj.
I believe whct
,e sere d ec id i nj then waa i
for t h'5 i,a n r n U
snather or rio t there was any t.urthat neceLaity l
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ta jut innioitiona upon the re s ur:ipt io n o f interia o per a t i on.
L thind e a cc id ed not.
Uut I don' t taink ac nec e ssa r il y 9
deteruined thIt uucLtion one way et thc-ather for our 1
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have in t end ed to huop the uoara i n f u r i:ied as the ',tatf has
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13 sita respcct to all d ev e l o p-it a ts in thi., aren.
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ies, you have.
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I wts just r c lia t i n j cay i 'li.r c L d i o n on J
it what toe saard -- ilt.
will tt y to find in our tilua, botn the
.L 7 S t a t i ' :_, 1111aj and our Eiiing in that connection, so that 16
..tijnt De heaplul to llc Staff overnijht.
IS C H '. Itt u.N 11 L L _,1 :
Da the intervenors have cay paint 20 at view on thiu?
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21 4R. IiO3 3 LI O :
'.a wa u i c, 111.- ta aver tne eveninj l
22 review Lae record and nive yau our po s i t i o n an it t o.ao r r o w i
23 uorning.
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All right.
La will deNr furth2r i.
23 consiot.ratian af that uatter.
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ther e could De in w'io l e or in orL continued lateriu i
3 operation of the facility while the uodiLications are being i
f r f a ru esi?
. hat are your su.jjestions on tnot?
re hLve to 4
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aave a record.
' ale have to nake a determination, ad yau will i
O tecall, ;>ath f r a.a what this il:> a r d said in its initial 7
decision a; well as what_ the appeol Do c rd uaid in reviewinj o
our initial decision.
.iu it's the 4atter there that h&S to J
ve cddleLSOJ initiLilly by L ;.e parties und :)y the Gaard.
Jo s,
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- v. a u.a l a n to do L.la t?
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.e t.ac a u uucd that whichever
.he 2
aarties wi a;ied to <. 1 0 re. s u that would eid d r e >
t ri ci t in the t
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13 todLiUJny thut u)Uld b0 [ileO W[th Une haard.
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Sinco you 'iled fjrnt, d id ya u lb elan on behall of the Licensee to have any evidence in that
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Yus, and we were joinj to file firut.
Av iC v e r yo ne
..au joing to lite an ? latch 17.
I u el i eve thnt 19
.3u e n t i o n can Su ad d r e i n +,1 at thet tint.
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l'o u d o, thea, plan to have :a ae r) 21 te at illo ny.
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be haven't r ul ed with finality, 4
but w.: cre certainly intercated in the schedule yo u are I
25 uujjesting.
In aay oveat, whatever ve view on that aspect, I
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h1 t ine Licensee.ea uld be filinj a c w: t h n :i a y, the 17tn?
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3 Anc the Staff, vi caurse, has a d d r % u e'.'
thet in A
their Uud.
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u.idreubed i t in the ULM.
There ae..u.
La De Goveral things 1
7 there that sa y io u should ha/c a cold sh u td u'.in for c3 an< t na,
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>ne or ;. w u reietonces.
1 sav po w e in f e r en t il:ll y that you are
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auyinj aJide C r a:a those ya u d o n ' L have to have a cold 10 ubutJawn.
not I cn not 30 sure i t' u cl u e2 r l y eund exp1icitly 11 addreutec.
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30 a d d r e t. s e d it f r ori two aspectL.
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.a a, 10 there t need tu shut t i,e pl i.in t down because the 14
,>e r l o rnie n c e of warn woulu effect tne 'afety of operi: Lion qu' h 15 Lhat Chut dowa $/ auld M.e it Lafer to perform the w a r s,.
And j
b 16 that is,/ u t you refer to as where we any t! a t durin; j
17 lautallatian at out af the.. l a tu s vu uelieve it c ho uld be lb Uhut ;o t,u.
19
.aecondly, a3 inl:l r e s s e d it
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t:19 ut a n'! pa i n t of ww du laN sl.a ula the..iod i f ic a ti on s t a s.e and ha ', laaj J ha ul'1 t h 's O
21 plaat be permitto. to aparata gundinj cocysl e t io n of t h a r..
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.aua l l ica t i on s.
/,nd that w will at
~th in part 7 or tha l
1 23 3CH did t e we Jaid that th3re Lhou; be at a ')
und 1imit.
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.4 There s ho ulr! nat De 2;n open,.> p e n-e n l ed ;it ua t ion where there j
2b waula be au l j hi f t an ever co'ipl e t i n j the nod i f i c a t i o n,>
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h1 ratner.ve tlvaujnt there s ho u l.. Le an end liait of
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2 a wroxiastely a yaar from the tioe that, i f -- fraa th > ti:m 3
that the.aouificatiant are authorized if tha> are a utho ri zed.
4 C th liU1 Ali AILLON:
ulthorized at coaleaced'
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t ' v3 time that they ara cuthori300.
L Ah. Gen i:
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dil A Ii4 A1 4ILLh:
Authorized.
7 Dn. IMI'O N :
It it certain that that authorication J
d asulo bald fo r ever?
I nean f3r the duration of tho J
1aod i f ica t ion?
01 coula the Staff co au in sit 1, say, h o.1 d it 10 n 'a r e un t il We look at So.lethinj al so <iore caref ull y?
11 in.
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I sjuess I don't tiui te understand what 12 you are achia).
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tbv fitu is autharizatian?
14 h.
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I see, in other Worai, C a ult the S ta f. f 15 at a.,e t i..i c in th-Eutura, in - wild a n a u.j h c a e.a min]
D lb Arforuea, c o.a e in and Eay sto p?
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Yes.
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I oelica the Direc tor o f luclear 19 ileactor dejulation, if he f o nu r. a good reason, healto
.ad 20 cafuty reason to stop the ocdifications, co uld issue an o rd e r
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21 that wauld utap them.
22 JR. PnAPOJ:
U3 the n o.. i n al one year ooesn' t d e pe nri 2) only u po n the Licensee.
It cauld depend on the Sta r E, also.
O hc 4 ill. G's.% Y :
Aad it could -- you, that'u true.
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' hat ib the Licensee's r e ac t i:> n to I) d LOVIC u & liUJ. f C lil
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1 the Sta f f's pa s i t i o n rejaroinj continued in ter i< l operation I
2 during.wditication?
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nell, thosa are the conditions, the i
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propned condi tions %at
.ie i n t</ nd ed to adorecs in our b
te s t i.a o n y.
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have tua reactions.
Dae in that w
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i t ina t if a period is to ae set at all, it chauld Se a i
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7 rtusonaale' period t5kinj into account reavanele continjencies, and we are reviawing shother the 12-aanth a
b eriod that the Staff has cujjested is in, in fact, adayusta, e
10 u.31nJ that s t a ral a rd, because ~.i e cer tainly don' t nelieVJ there 11 is any antety r e t. s o n '/ny tne specific l i: ii ta t i o n af 12 r.o n t h s 2
or lb :nontas be a e t.,
In addi t ion to that,,- a would pr o' >c bl y
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13 aujjeat that the conoition, if there is one that has any 14 specific period at time in it, a l.s o include a proviso that 15 that pe r io n co t.l a be ex t.e nd er by the ni r ec to r o f 1.e -j ul e t i o n,
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Nuclu o r heac ta r ale; ula tion, it because of circulstancau 17 buyuna the Licensee control the t oa i f i c a ti o n,rograa in lj e<tsnaea, thin?.in-j of thinja like, you k na.t, strikeJ, 15 laavility to obtaia.aaterials, or other N (C regitred actions l
20 Ju;h aa, 1 think, Cr. Paxton was raferrinj to.
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21 It's alwa33 gossible in the c ur r en t d a y ila r l:1 that 22 Deca use of s o,n e other reacona, the statt aijht iaposu a 23 requireaent upaa us during the ti<ae o f modification unich O; <
wauld interfere witn the modification.
'k) we think ther.
25 should oc a certain eacunt of flexioility in it within, of l
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1 course, the discretion of the Ni;C f3 t a f f, authorizinj the 2
Li j ur e wi t hi n thw GC Staff.
3 C iR Iit-lh. il L Li.: h :
There r.au been s o.a c shitt in 6
position, hasn't thart, since the time of
'a '/ of lo73,la ? n
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b the initial Staff decision aas ren9ered, in prorasinj the o
ti. t e it
,,a u.joinj to takc ta do it, how yau ware going to do 7
it?
Aren't au lo c h in;j at c different picture n a.i then we
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O Ware b a c i, in those uays?
J in. AA: LW:
L2t ita take this anc th i n.)
at a tiae.
10 i.i th r e s is ec t to t.ie different fix, yea,
.s e ha/c a different 11 c.c a l i. i c a t i o n lo s than 'se had ari j in ally conta aplate<! ba:L 12
-neo the Jusijn deficiencies caae up.
/,e belie /e this is u O
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13 "le t t e t fix.
It <!aas aa t involve probleais that in the course 14 ai cje/ eloping.i h a t sv h c.d thaujnt.iijht ha/c been an 15 orijiaally proca s ca d fix saulu arice, p r o bl e. t s, for e x c.a gl e,
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15 of coanectioj this aascive e r. t e r n a l structure th3t va had 1/
tirst tnoujnt d90Lt to the building.
a think tnat the 1 ;.
jtapased iteJi f icationc t h:: t we i.a/c in :lind n a ',/ are ci u n mora l'
<ffective u n -a
- v. i l l do a bettet job in the in tenc e'i eleaijn 2U
.. o r j i n t b:oi L:ie or i j inal e.r o i to s iil s.
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22 p r o ps 3 4.l b in nuich this soard case into bulas nas re art as g
23 lean desirable or ef fective?
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A. ": L s.w :
Primarily with tue extent to the l
25 a t r uc t ur e connectea to the buildini, to: ability to achic/e 1
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1 the resultu thraujb the addition of this !aenive outside i
,J J t r t.c t ur e ind the connections that i:) ul d have to De cl e J
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.'> e t we e n thost external walls and the existinj Eacility.
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ul AIR, /W 1ILLit:
I naar that yo u a r e L
what du jou quen?
Then it.,m, s ui,p n.
tv L> e the im. t thinJ G
aince Jrviu nutu and it wat joinj to
'20 non; in locs than a 7
year a nd so fortn.
It s e e,a 5 to.ae se have a significantly t.
diflerent uatter which I d on' t say i c b id, l'f w.
are doing I
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soaetninj better, safer, fine.
I c.a curious, 11 tnis la 10 aetter, why was the ;; t he r warue I don't think you told me 11 but wou wronj wi tn t he first o n e'?
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he pr o po sed to cover t h a t.'
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13 Co\\ laud M I L Li:it:
On, yo u are :n> i n j to cover that.
14 wit a
.a in u t e,
la tua pr e pa r ed file testimony a t ths 17th?
li al ii. /uG ui A L.
i:i j nt, now, $1i t h r es pec t to chnol inq J
lb perious a f ti.ae,
.a t the tine the o r i:J inal oraer oy the Staff 17 wa s issued, tae order
,/a s issued on the circum tance3 shich 10 oid no t involve any griad of tine with respect to hoorinjs, 1) for exawle, a nd tne a.o un t af Liue that s>uld require.
A n-i 20 it involved et tnat time our best estimate au to the dedijn
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'l and con s tr uc t ion period for that par t ic ul 61 audification.
22 CHileiAN 41 L lim :
De s i,J n and conntruction, no l
23 hearinj perica, but desijn ano construction was not.aore than ea
_ner.
ri;bt, at that tine it das 2 t.
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l conceived as a very simple, s t r a ig h t-f or wa rd ptocess.
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'nat we have nas is what e consider to ha a better 3
c.odification.
but we are being ver y cere f ul, as I aii aure 4
the board appreciateu, to make bure nat the only that the
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b deuijn is the :a o s t e f fective desijn that v.-e can develop, but 3
also that our uethod of construction lo one which will ausure 7
the least passible iia pac t u po n plant o per a t ion and public
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a neelth and safety.
baceuse of aur f i c ca canvictian that for 9
tiie reasonu that we and our
- v. i t ne s s e s described in ietail in LC the in te r iu operation hearing, the pl a n t t'ull y sa t i s f i t s the 11 0.25j SSL, Cafe S a u td o iin Isa r th q ua k e event and therefore, we 2
believe tha t interin operation is f ull y sa fe, and therefore,
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13 we believe, tnat the caodification, itself, sho uld be 14 ac c oa pl i sh ec in tne sa fe st wa y possible, that involves 15 tequencing of s tr uc t ur al work and nodification work in
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16 r,o s t effective way possible.
17 Th+ Statf in ita SLH has made s o'a e additional 10 sujgoctions wi t h rese ect to sequencin3 of the ark that oay
- 1. 9 have n o.a e sc h ed ul e 1:apact.
Anu we think i t's i'a pa r t :in t that 20 the work ue done properly and sa fely and that there is na
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21 reason way anyone sho uld want the work to be compacted into 22 sc hed ul e wh i c h lu less than tha caost effective sc hed ul e 1
23 that's in the best interests of the public av,; ell as tae J
e w.A ajency and the Licensee that the wa r ; take the time that is l
25 required to do it properly and sa f ely.
D dLOVICa o EZ CKI
%M hl C ilA l tm N siILLER:
No one would querrel with that, 2
4r. A<elrad, but I think the intervenvrs came in in the o
3 beJ inning and said anat you were co n t aa pl a t i ng and the y seiJ 4
it si.a s n ' t safe an, wasq't the best e n:1 tnay were pro po si n j
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5 that then.
0 4aw you've lot Plan B an1 I a:t mure tha t yo u and 7
your client are being caretul, pra perl y so, and the Staff is O
be t ill j to it.
Out llo U '50 Ue knaU il 3 W W9 bre nOL 'Jo1n j to 9
have Plan C?
si y g o s h, what.ie pliin n ed back then -aa s n ' t 10 nearly as :J o o') as we tha b j t,"
it wa b, haw do Je Know that the 11 Chanjin) tec nnolo:J y o r.nooj, or whatever il is that ca userl 2
this 180 acjree turn wo uld n' t set in again on this particular
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13 pl an that we are laborin] on.
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are f ully convinced that tha t 15 would nat ce t!w cace.
One o f the additional develop aents D
16 that nave taken pl ac e since t:n a order uns m ad e back in lay of 17 1975, o/un thoujh the order wa s not requirea.
18 dven thouJ h we co nt i ri uad to do th] aan l ys i s
>n th2 13 olu utics. nod el s that hac used in the original syste W
20 cevelopeo or uechtel develop o anJ utilized the Rtarlyne C
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/u s al y s i s, an ic h is a ver y re fined final analysia which 3cve 22 a.; a much better und(rstandinj of the structure than sa had 23
- before, he are f ully convinced that that additional D
R Inloraation has aeloed ua to develop a auch better
- f. i e for 25 the tacility than sauld have taken place if se just proceeded i
d WVICn b :n A.JI i
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1 back in April 01
'71 juat to jo ahead arvi de s ign and i
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construct the facility, the inprove wnt as wa then projecta:
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which we really questions the !aasic structural ade pacy of j
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saat we are p t a pa s i n'j to do.
Thera cre a nunber of L
ad d i t i o nal ynJLtions they have ha,,ed.
Th e r e arc a n u '.i b e r af 4
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detailed -- ila r e de ta il ed in f o r' w t ion that thdy
'a n t.
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1 10 era retineaents in the amount a i? information tnat v. e are 11 provid in j t ".)
t u eni.
There are mort conservati&is that tney I
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2 sant'that we sio ul d n.a v e thoujht,la ; necessary.
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., e believe, is joinj to luna to an even better modification 14 tn&n any af u.; hsd origintily con templateJ.
Ib t.n a we don't r a all y co n t e.a pl a te a Plan C.
'D 1G CIM I.c w 4ILLMt:
Uaes tnc ':ta f f have any coanuat?
17 46.
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ica, I wauld any that we don' t 13 cont.euplLle a Plan C.
In the Le ae 101n, lookinj ba:: k an tnat 19
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'7b today, it certainly app 2arL ia h i nd s i;j n t to han l
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20 been very aptiaistic as to the length of Line it sauld ta ke
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21 to desija, r ev l a '., tac,aodi [ica t ion b and jat thett in plago.
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.an d thet certainly in truc.
23 C bA lli 4A t! MILLEN:
Well, I think.. e sauld ell ejrec
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25 dy the 'sa y, c id I retpire the Sta rd yae type of l
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..as developed in order for other plans to have 2
se i s:a i c pr ob l eu r shich I think existed a >out a year ajo a n '.
3 which have caused a certain s t ud y, if not questions bein; l
t, raised vuich then jot interrupted by certain e/eatu?
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An. dwiY:
I aa told by the Sta f f people that they G
sere difforent pr o bl e.n>
altogether.
I thinx y;u are
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referring to tim pipinj probln and the,;i pe analysis probleu D
U J\\ li 4 /u lILLUR:
Yes, What i;i nd of analysis sare
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t im y using?
nere they uainj u Stardyne ur s i;a il a r technique 10 on those or so.a e t hi n g clue?
11 E.
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The S tct rd yne is used for the entire 2
structure itself, the,mlls.
13 CriAlh4AN il L L Lil:
fes, out what about theCe cbble li trays an: theue saf.ety related connections?
I thin!'. there 15 were five other plants, i ncl ud i n J North Bend and s o:a c of the D
i lt otlers.
17 C.
GRAY:
Tuo problem tnere hed to do with the 1.3 calculational coues t h :.s t hvi to do 'ti t b the pipinj itSelt 19 onca yo u have the J ui l d i n '; nailed down.
20 C HT1h 1M lI L Li;Ii:
w haa s o:s e.au t a em a t i c al errors oa
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21 thib one, initially, d id n' t we?
22 An. Ja.i:
Yes.
23 CU;IHAnu MILLn:
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.aatheoutics, playing it e
o stralint f o r 'sa r d, it's lik.e a c o.a p ut e r, it de pends on shat 25 yau are putting in la terns a f sha t yo u a r e,mttinj out.
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Jh e y
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- 'ie level of ;ut ;intication
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that's resoiruJ fur pi j.in ; a n a A y s e..;.
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,o i ' y our. Tjo sn! leaa lb
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interrojatories tar a s e c o n ci ?
I tuinn tie Etate of Cr e ;un la 2
investijatinj toe subjcct now
.35 e / id e nc ed af i n te r r o-j a to r y
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And I mi t i c i pa t e th:t yo u. u y havt l
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Lentiaony an tiu t po i n t that Jay diffor f r o..
ths
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5 slia ntly at 4a y ejrce l en tiia utatf ana it's still oein; 1
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<>ur expe t tn i
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'A'h a t ' s y'a u r in te r r o.j a to r y J9.
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feu, pt:r t ic ul a rl y is to L)l a t t 7 and j
9 d.n e t h e; r it's a;3 >r a pr ia te ta brinj ti a c f;16i n t to a cold J
10 unutdoan ourinj that installatica.
11 ti ',1. i t Mi
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Staff had a cian (
to look
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ut the iite r ro ja tur ies p ro t.o und eG by the Utato af Oregon O
o e m - c a ma i n a. n l ',
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C.i e i r ; u. n, ;/a have guagle tv
.iorkinj on t h-sa ri;nt naw.
O l i, Q Ain 4iaN 11LL"M:
First of all, pardon m.
17 E.
OS T: lid iN :
There aay be other aiiilar iunues 13 that,va uld c r a t; up anae a on our revin a f tha :
L>ur ;b na r.
1S C ri.\\ 1thtA N ai1LLud:
. ell, I interd-d to t n.e up all 20 penjing in ter rolato rie s, watch I :J u u s s thers ere reclly only O
21 tea-inquire firut of all, does the Stit f f have ;, n y 22 Le t
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1-t v. l e. 4 witn taase interrojetorias in the s e'1 G e of t!ie r e O
uein; any.vations or protective a rc.e c s o r an y uiin:; like that 25 you wo ula be auxinj the boarc to ente: into?
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No.
2 CliiIN 4/W 4ILLdR:
RJ you have nic ply received thea 3
cmd yo u a r e reviewi 0 the infornation to,take thc s t u.i',
4 necessary anu tha caard doesn'L have to be involved in that?
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G Cllila q AN lILLUR:
Does the State of Orejon hav e any 7
other :aa t te r s that they in t e nd to o r i rg up now or is it a b] O e
that ;H are able to see./h a t you are doinj.
U Mk. OST R N4 D Sti:
I just wanted to inforu the doard 10 that 'a are ta i;i n ) a l o oi: into that.
D 11 r HA I R '4A N 4[LLER:
Thank you.
Are there any other 2
interrojatories?
[ think there is another uet somewhere.
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13 ban i t.
tite S ta f: f to the intervenors?
14
. IR. CaAY:
Yes, wa did send sara e to the interveacts?
lb C tM I k4 % N I LLEll:
Have you had any re plies to those?
16 4H. OdAY:
Tney were sent.
I am inforned th ri t Mr.
17 iea u ol ic ar ru. dell d id not receive those.
ld gi R. n O'. L'4 4 D :
We received ouru ye s t e r a y.
19 M.
Giu l:
T h J y vte r e sent February
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1 20 ClRId4N4 AILLWt:
An:1 this lu :t3 r c h shat, the llth?
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21 C!MIR4Au v41 LLSR:
Le t ao ask the intervenors since 22 you aave been a little slow in J v i n.I S0:10 of yo ur answeru to i
23 Interrojatoria.
Look these over tonight and let ne snow D
$.d 4 to.ao r row i f yo u a r e going to raise any procedural questions.
25 1 don't care how yau answer them, exce pt answer theut pro pe rly.
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l I sont to know it ttmre are g>inj to ua a n y i:2 '. i a n a.
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L want to d i c pa w af all noticac.. n a., beanuce a pr- !;ahl y
.i wan't De acetin; yau fcce to face aofore
- t. h e evidentiary 1
cartias, b e f o r t.
u t.
rule.
So look tnci over
'l nearinj, all
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L toni;ht, if y3u will, and jo over thcIi with us in the - otning.
'i You Ja y you naven'L jot theni yet?
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I don'L nnau a>w to e /, pl a i n it.
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C 1. A l H 4.V 1[ LLUR:
I knau they are lated th2 M ti, a n:!
10
..y recollectian i :; they c ;:.l e into our office e day or tu) 11 later.
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our., fc ste rd ay.
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"i y.s e c r e t a r y s h a.< ; :/20 JL 14 courda, 1 vad in
>shinjtan, that s a k.a a diLference.
IL C,i il i?la il 11LLLd All r i jf.t,.l e t.' s hear fron y)L ta J
.r _ whetuur thure is
.ny techaical or it JEl objection l'
17 La.
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Da yo u hove a a,2 a r e ca #; for Mr.
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19 li. GLY:
de
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20 D.i.
l' N AT J s :
I wauld be ha spy to j ive it to you.
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21 C u s I.41. M il L Lid :
Tj i a t j i v e t, a p,x.> r t ua l t y for
,ath
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La beve nr..;rria; hsre n;
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b to the T r o,} a n i. l a n t toqurrow for a site visit.
6 sn,lalAN A1LLud:
.fb yo u w.at to put bin on ticut 4
7 thirg at take this aa t ter up first?
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d allt, w,nl:
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./ a s: t n take tuit matter u:) firct.
9 Cri'\\Ia M 1 41LLEn:
if.. e will convenu at 9 o'clocs.
10 1 ild provide iur l i,, i t e d stat aeott.
t h./e v e t
./ ? sill start 11 at 3 o' clock sith tnic :.io t t o r and.ce will c o.ra e n c e uito dr.
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a.aiInt rs
.c.: 11 t c.ne u,; thir.
Ib u a t t.c r o f t h e sche!ulinj.n i i c h 1r. idelrol haa aide or
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15 alludea to.
Ar e the intervenors f miiliar with th.9t?
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o n e, also t il ed the 2 0 t h?
IJ an.
w:ULla:
fe r, Jr. Ciairn.n, wa -j o t that.
Is ix. AXCLRAv:
.e obv io usl y use a better past office l
2L thna the ataft o '; e t,.
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21 CH,IliM HILL,4:
All riant, the sagjustian as I 22 unsl e r u t ana it lu that unaer tne sc hed ul e catered by t. h e h a r ri 23 an our De c ca D e r 29, 197b order, de prov id ed the filin; of the J
$26 profileu wr i tten dircat testi'uuny bf all partioL on, arch 17.
25 l'a u L i c e n t o r-po i n t c out their
.v i t n a b u. s are l
d L u V I C 41 a h 0/. iC 1: 1
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.;urruntly p t.; c t. r i n j t h e i r, t.u s t in a a y and sill
- m. e t tae filing a l i a ; u m.,
H sita Mr.
u-te aa; inclu.;in i tiw
.tter, that 2
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6x e l t r.d
- t. o a c i.
It in na t us t ha t Section '; of thu 1 filed by the Ltaff cant.:ine-J c n u.a 'se r of un t enalve' iteia s '> m af
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.- bcVe joue luto t o ) :2 y.
/,nd the Liceasee aujwsts e.1 a a r t.:
Conatructivelv af oth-fra
-i that too record be develo n
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t>s.tties ather thun tiie Licensee,.< c r e.jivun additianel time J
u to Lile their pr e ;o.1 r H ;i r e 7 t te bli'iony !q i '; h r' d a then toh I
,reviously fil-G an the 17tn into ?ic c o un t i; ns r e si>3 na to that s
1 10 af vit ch.jp Licease t; is that correct?
j 11 G.
MU LH/w :
Cancerninj the J.t r uc t u r ui Od.quacy, 4
n a t. Concerniaj t.h1 a t:.a r netters.
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.3 a r r y, c '> n c e r n i n j s tr uc t u rial la o j equ ic y, correct.
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la auuL onyane !
,V e a.ly objection, t !)O :1, t3 j ('a t la Julertinj LJ
- 1. a e J L lie t artlec 1111 ri j Of L u. elf jt J
e r
u.;v until t%
17 testi iooy on. ia t t e r :.;oncerning atr uc tur al a 1
11 s u j ja s ted late af inren 2i efter t !.u f il in j s i n ihat r ; sect n
r.m en a of t n.: a c..mer wmecmtions s
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21 it's really tm. art ;otion, n n,1 t'n filia; i.t>.,
for
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12 te ti.aany aLiost n.;ce n arily hove to ut relata to what.; e t..
23 tak9a u at each li2e r iu j ben'; ion.
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aae or the ioterest
-e Osaow u.e t tae nura no is 25 to a s k.e
' ore t'. h '. P the tcati.iony of all pw r t i t in r e t' e i v t 15
' i de =) V a.e 1 51
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6 s
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- . e. q h1 days aufure th;t
- t. e n t i: i a a y i n to
- 4. - h e t. rt LL the ratir.-
z proceeding vare ta M cond uc ted isjinain] : arch 21 an cll J
iguueb i ncl ud i n j structural aj e q u r. ; y, if all perti.:n atner 4
t ila n t h c-Licensee d i; nat fil...
tneir t.
- til t.iy on s t r u.
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b od e q u t.c y until 'arca 16, there
.a ulu nat be 7.
ocriod 01-lb a
.s mj.; Jas/:3
-)e t o r e i.t r c h 31 for that to be r e v i e.co !.
7
,13 shot we havt : a u.' 1, 2 *i t <
iE t t:0 Uoard is t i l l i n.j tu D
d utructure i t., nearinj takinj inta r: count th,L it has a l r ; l! y i,5 in lica ted a Jecond ne ub i o t t
.ijht start 'pril lith, i f.
thu LC aaarc is.. i l l i n j to itr uc tur.
its : teor in J in teras 3." atviaj 11 tac n an u t r uc t u r al ad ni u a c y i ssuaa heard narch 3.1 to.\\vr il 5 y
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k e S( f t 104}y U Il tf}O 9143 J Cd(b d Ik C kl Il r t' Ib
.LVkeW.}vOl j SI A J U 10 r' I3 1
15 juinj
- t. o av heara l !, Jays before the enlinj sessian.
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it. Mel: 61, Jauld yo u consid er t n ".i t L7 if iue s t i on:. an the et1LLric ay w h i :, h you vo ul, a.w G u kJ t to t Hone, th n, in t ' e..
lo you a.sv e aut
- t. s a t es di r e wn t: m uld
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su, that U)ulH jen]
11 t h the 33 6tfuCtUrd1 a e. [ u it C f.
22 j u i l ' tmil 2J at L ic doj and yo u' ve j )t t h 'a tail c a.t i:n first at t 'h o < * :' >s Ou
. tuen nu. ve
,t tme oy. - gu,re o m,
1, e th.
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-tua structural adequacy.
You need a certain amount of 1
'2-precision there, and there unere is the bulk of the testinony
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coming on'taa probl eas coainJ.
And it s ee:au to me that l
4 s t r uc tur al ad equ'a c y t o the,aost significant.
6y colleaguen b
tend to disajree with ae.
And I will back off and sa y it in I
not insig ni f ic an t, the way we lawyers do, 34r. /c< el r ed.
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MR. AE LmD:
I was not suggesting that the
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d st r uc t u r al adequacy would require si.c daya.
I am aasuming m+
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Wauld stop when it was finished, aor an I su.)qesting tha 10 second nearing uaulo noceucarily be, vo uld not necessarily 'oc j
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11 coa pl e ted, you knou, in three days or tour daya.
I wauld 2
think
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13 CilAIM AN t4ILLtN:
Yo u a r e really deferring our 14 nearinjs, thun.
I mean becauue we have great difficulty in i
lb sj e t t i n'j those dates.
And l've got tua or three other triels 1G tuat are jutting j a:ued in because of the subjects here.
If 17 you iay tha t is no t goinj-to be finished in two or throa days, la yo u ma y a.a loaking at autunn bef. ore se renuae our evidentiary-10 hearing, before wa do it.
20 HR. AE LM D:
im cer tainl y rion' t aant to do thal
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21 eitner.
1 22 CHAIRMAN 61LL8R:
I appreciate what yo u a r e 23 suggesting and had we liberal time at our disposal, I wo ul d 24 consider it.
L5u t now I see the r a:a i fic a tio ns. o f it, I aa 25 getting do ubtf ul.
SE0VICil a EZ E KI i
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3 ') ;7 hl As I mi su;jaatinj to you, because at tio al l;gc le a 2
tila t wo have hare t:ia t I.naw - b uil t, I've j n t. tWo Jthar l
3
.ta lter b ja,ar.wo in an CV id 0n t iar y hcarinju, L i K' one of t heil 10 I
4 an an t i-tr uJ t d't j your of fice nay 'je linvolved in it.
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5 Other Words, 1 En6 holdinj t i Jte for Trojan Jo de can l '3 L t h '2 U
evid ent iar y ne6r ir ),
we can pr o c c. ?d
~] e t
.) u r Einrlinjn JE factu 7
dad conclusions af law and a decision out i n cs r e a S o n a.)l O Ana J
Li.itl y fashion.
J think c h3VC to je t tnose dat JL w'l i c h
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tautuolly arrived it.
I think if first six days i ncl ud ed 10
- a tura ny necauso
,a Wa n t ed to J e t u auch pounible done then ll Decause that Wa b t.be only full Ween Wa had.
And then I 2
dcheuuleu the
..) t h e r three day.; in order to n l c i. ind thab'
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13 m.;tters th6L dere neconsar ily le[t over.
If they were, I in 40uld he
,a r [ec tl y hn ppy to do it all in th? first six uaya l
15 and rebt on the Seventh, but I aa y hat be able to have tisat D
1o cito ic e.
i 17 30 therefore, I aclieve just as a practical matter IL froa the utandpoint at the board uc n ed ul i n-) aoilitia. end not j
19 aaatinj to jet this Trojan c o.c j a u ert up t:0 whare v have to 20 have evidentiary nearinjn in W [>tc.iber and ac tober, and 1 D
21 don' t think you w>nld ac. a t that, Mr. ixelrai, on behalf of 1
1 jour client, oecauue other q ue s t i o n:, wa ult; arise, j
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C'.i a i r o n n, in li;ht of thu D
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to occo:< adale cll t h i.>.
a!w i ~; ua l ;, tryinJ to ln is ic Ja g at the thinju I a..
J lt is nat a)Lically ;: > L c i bl e for ou la r : u p ). irj to the c
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that acture th; 17th.
tat n at of that to ta l l y.iig h t not or 4
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relevant tu tait l a t., u i t y.
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we are locked in ar. our evid ua tia r y d a te s.
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3 tnou3ht to couaiderinj that, ar. Axelrad, and the reat of yaa.
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4 Cil A I t ci A N AILLtd:
It aljht be SalM ul, '; l s o, since i
5 we are discuasing tilis
.ia t t e r to kn x What yo u have in a i na i
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with ao:se erecision a' > a u t tha no ast r uc t ur al rictters IS r 1
7 everythinj other than -- le t' a see if.. e can jet a little l
8 more precisian on rib u t is enco apassed tita r e.
Ur at least to I
's unclyze it, ci r. n4elrad.
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noulo yo u lika us to do that rijht
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All r i.j ht, did any of jou let a 14 caance to can[er?
lb Hl. AXCLdAD:
With r =3 spe c t to the scheoule, va Jio
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16 have e chanca to tals, and Ar. Gra y can inforu the Haard of 17 the reciultc of the discusuion.
la C !ia liDI A N 1ILLCu:
ca r. Gro 0 19 ik. GRAY:
-4 r. Cnairman, the pr o p a s61 wo uld o-for 20 the Licensee tu file all of its te s t i.: ion y an Harun 17th.
AnJ O
21 the other pa r tia
- t. o file their no n st r uc t u r al teatinony also 22 an earcu 17th and to Ille their s tr uc t ur al tustimony an Ma rc h 23 24tn.
I realize tha t's only two days dif ference th6n carch 3
- 4 25th, which is s u j
- J e s t ed in etr. AxelrLa motlan, but the l
l 2b in te r v eno r s anu the State of Orejon have ind ic a ted no r.
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objectien to thal providcd t h e; Sta f f or i t:5 patt enn let it; 2
te s t i.:io n y delivorc6 qui c kly ';y spac ial neasca]ur which,, a i
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ill da, anJ then to
,n oc e ea et the hearing takin] up
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4 uuJjects as they cOqe, 30]inninj.litli description of o.la t the
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niod i f ica t ian s are a nd tnen takinj up the questian of the sa fe ty of aperation walle the mod i fications are pe r f o rned and i
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7 iinally takin; up the issue of the structural adeguz:cy o f the 4
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t.o a i f i c a t i o n s.
9 CinIk lM 41LLM:
4-tr e yo u oble to dcfine the 19 nonstructural ano the s tr uc t ur al te s t i" ion y in s o.t u reasonable C
I 11 and in telli j ibl e fashion?
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I believe Mr. fuelrad is join.j to cover
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13 that.
16 vihlL1AN 11 L LU :
Do the intervenors underatsnd s')a t 15
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iG ma. nU lim D:
I';, sarry, we d id not have 1/
d i.;c u s s i a n s on that Juuject.
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l i; CillI ti 1M 11 L Lt.d :
l'u sorry.
l'ii beyond your recen.
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- v. e attoupted to do that in the votion 20 itsaif.
Lasically with respcct to structural adequacy O
23 tejording the 410 tion, that is t_ n e ability of the facility the
?. 2 situstena the 3.15g od L as originally i n t:mo ed and the 1
23 qualification of tne e q u i p.a en t to withstbnd the '~ e i : 11c
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.i d I equi r 5:t e n t s with respect t3 everytbinj el se, that woulc be 4
i 25 nun s tr uc t ur al cdequacy.
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' i o.i t.. e had intenjcd La tile in our t u J t. i q a n y, in a
2 e.,,,e n c e, an nonstr uc t ur al 6 !cquac y, aa ul f' f i r L l' of el l l,
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3 just a des ;ri j>t ion o f the lix i t uttl f, a de2criptian of hun 1
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the warn is quinj to be done.
Ans /a would add r e > - ;11 of
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S the, at that ti62, eba t I thoujht Uauld Je the reanininj C P'.-S P G
contentiona unich
..e r e 12, 13, 15 a n'i I F., which I mijht re l 7
juut O r i g f!l y, just Lo the,oard aan r e::cll c a t what t ha t.U antail.
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12 sv a :2, " Li c en::g e bus not
.r ov id t:
hr in f o r.aa t io n 1l
..LiJn ShoWS that the pl an t Clun Ju operated d ur i n j l
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.cditication warh withaut uq'l ud r i d !.
to the pu's l i c
.;c al t!i una 2
Luleti.'
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' ra c plant canaat oi rate in a
,a f e canditian 14
.hile tae noditizatian wat h is :a e i n j 7: a ne. '
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' Lice. sue nat identifiw. all
...a t e t y
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15 qui pau.it or e q u i g. i e n t n eed er, f.o r
.,a E e apuration oE the plant.
, c o po st d icdificatluns.
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17 in a t would be at f ac te:. by 10
/,nd 15, " Licensee has nat, wh' <dequate pl a n o fot
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1; d'aty af a,q u i ;a e n t and e;pipaeat for 7od ilicatio n dur i n ) the 20 aoJ i t i.:u t i an.so r i;. "
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21 osat we
- c. r c talkinj zaout in,aather or not tb<
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., e i s:a i c r e qu i r e..:e n t o of the wA n rn/ e acun oc. t i a l i e:1, that ib 23
.a t r u 3 t u r a l auequ3Cy, OVCrythinj
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't- : r i pt i Oll Rf
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k ooin; to w per f o rmco a n:. its 21:e t y is tna ars cna na, it s 2;
/d a t WJ nauld diaOd5S firGL.
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usa m.s s aonca
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1 n o o t.
.. a wa u1L propaae far the :ia st e f f e c t i / c.
up is l
2 ausuain.j that the sch?dule with C.T i c h u-have just arrive 3
wica
- t. i.e fili.ij af thu
- 2 a i.a a.: y is ordered uy the.' o a t ",
c.
4 i '> u l n Lh' 7 i r > tl t our
- t. c a t i, ' a y Firbt ulta te 3. J 0 to
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S n.)a s t r uc t ur c l adequacy.
/ill the other i.. a r t i e s vi > u ] d tacu 5
present theit tettinony with reupect to n>nstructural l
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o c.: q u a c y ou that su have in t :.e record in one,alace all the l
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h te ut i. tony relatinj ta those intersaven subjcJLu anf al so so l
J that witnesses woulu ba here to tautify or huat on thace LO uu>jects moula ell go :: u e to varioua Jections of the co un t r y,
11
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.ce would ja ahead with the Le u t i:.to n y on s tr uc t ur al aculo <rescat our :ase first an t h :;. t and t o -> n a d e..,u a c y.
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la the otner partlea sauld present their ac.w on that.
ind L4 f r e o u.a a o l y, ie ini:;nt 'j e t to the subject of atructural IL aam;uocj within aayue the third aay o f the hearinj, s o1ae t h i n a lb lihe that, l '/
C HA l n /u AILLN:
Taat ;ouada reasannule.
/tayana 1) cure to comtunt un tnut?
19 All right, there onin) no oujection, we vii l l 2U canuicer
- t. b a t tau sug Jestion o f the parties have sorked out
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./ l a.a a n ; tne;aselves will be ad opte d by the vaard, nim el y t nu 22 Licensee will file Marcn the 17th its pre tt tal t e s t i: toa j on 23 all es oc ts of tne Pnac. 7 aearinj aad all o t.h e r pa r t i e t aill c
.24 tile on toe 17th, cluo, tnair evidence anc testimony relatirn 2 's to tne nonstructural aJe(dacy oreaa.
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MR. AxtLnAD:
Mr. Chairmon, is that urch 17.
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. Tu a t ' s wh a t I. h ad,
march 17, alsa 3
the saae d$te.
4 And on ; Orch 24th, the other pa r ties w 2 uld file then l
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the r e.aaining testiciony which goes. in t.o the s tr uc t ur al.
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G adequacy of'the pro po se d Inod i fi c a t io ns.
And v;n.wo ul d start 7!
'the evidentiar y hear i ng as scheduled on the 31st, sc hed ul ed i
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8 fo r six. days, Mo nd ay throug h Sa turday, hope fully tha t the 9
nan s tr uc t ur al testimony would go first and ho pe f ully, pe r ha ps 10 wi tnin, b y ' t. h e third day, se might conclude that and get into 11 the structural adequacy test imony, concl ud inj, then, the taree-day period we set aside several weeks later.
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OSTRAADLR:
r4r. Chaitman?
This morninj you i
14 al lo sed the State of Oregon an extra three or four d6ys
'15 depending on our necas for f iling our testimony on the
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16 nonstruc tur al uetter and I assume that allowance is still
'17 there.
la CHAlntAN ~4 ILLER:
Yes, that's correct.
he did give
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19 you three or four days, wiiatever you thou]ht yo u n e ed ed.
20 14 R. OSTRANDUR:
We will do it as Ca u t ao se
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po s si bl y. c an.
22' v1 R. CHalaAAN:
An yt hi ng el se on this schedule?
23' Anything else that we can take up this atternoon?
I k
24
' realize there are sonte riatte r s. 'tha t the pa r ties want to -
25 confer and consider overnight and r e po r t in the morniras la
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h1 there caythin) 21se that e possibly can 30 into thia I
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one o f.
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Yes, nr. C*1a i rm n,
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an tna o j e ncl a ses the identification of witneases?
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AXGLM D:
ind I don t
.3 u e any rcsuan wh y va J
7 can' t teke that up at this particular tiae.
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C dl\\ l it'l!U l A I L L C ', :
Do you Jant to stort sith therd 3
4i4 M. ; L'.a u :
Li c en ue e so ul s s pect to present its 10 t e s t i:a a n y in the fo ra o f t uo panels, oae on nonstructural I
11 adequacy ans one on structural ad e qua c y.
.e contoaplate that 12 tne panel on nonstructur61 adequacy : tatter S, nauely the 9
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- le sc r i pt io n of the sarh and hm/ tia work it :J o i n j to be 14 PU r f o r: aid 6nd its Liafety would consist of fiVC inIividuals, lb Danald I 3rocal, assistant vic e-pr e id en t, enjineurin and e
D 1G constructian, of l'o r tl u n i L:en e r al Clectric Co'.pany, who has 17 testifica in this pr o c e u rl in j be fo r e; Lief 1:r ic k so n, ao is 13 alco ewloyed oy tha Portl2nd Leneral Electric Company, and 19 saa in th2 project li' censing supervisar for Trojen; and thcee 20 wituasses f r o.a acchtel, cr. nichard C Anderson, wno is the
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21 enjincurinJ aaaa.jer for bechtel, Dr. Aillia, ii
.hite, ino in 22 cn en j i n e e r i n,j specialist.;i th aechtel and Mr. l'e nn e t a 4 C,ok 23 vna is supervisor, electrical n:J ineer.
D G24 Tila t Wac aur expectation before todoy'S discusJion 25 on the caotion for co mar y d i spo si t io n.
I am not aure at this, D
s m4 e
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- oncernina tiae anether sie will nee 1 anf atuitianol
- v. i ta v t
2 thm contention: Jiich ',, e r e no t su w rily dia;a.w of ar j
3 another t h rt t pa r tic ul ar panel <ill oc Male to a jd re,n
- t. h m : e I
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contentions also.
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b Gao of the ind iv id ual s w'm ha sub a i t ta :i affidavitu, 6
1 ia u l i e v e, on oac of the contentions vaa Mr.
'l u nd t, the
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<mnajor at T r a j i.n t.
It is pannible that fo r purp>v > af tha j
1 proceedinj, his testinony on that or his, the tatters that i
u sere covereo in his altidovit caa oe f ul ly cc eer si ny ane af
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i 10 tue ocu'aers of the panel, otherwise we.aay have to ou. hiu to
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11 te.;ti t y wi t h r e s pec t to that limiteJ aubject.
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12 la the baard, I na aura, recojninen, we
<'o have end 9
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i3 t<pect to have at tae hcarin1, 1 1 n :>, a nut or of inc. iv id ual n I
14
.ih a have
-x e n e n 16-j e a in t h e d e c. ig n such at bechtel an1 at 15 i>0 r tl aad Len ral hlectric, m:
if the type a[ qu2stions that r) 13 erime in tat c;urse al the testinany are, heco.ie Vory 17 Cetailel uad it would be useful ta the haard Sr or t>
13 etuvide jditional witnesses, we, of caurLe, vauld !ae jla.! to s
P 19 Jo so.
Iu t we aelieve that this pa r t ic ul a r pa n i.1 can cover 20 just ebaut all of the 4aatters that are involved on the
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11 no nst r uc tur al ad e:yua c y a id e.
22
'ith respect to structural adojuncy, the panel Will i
23 be, Jill consist of four ind iv id ua1 L tr'u Sechtel, dr.
24 Hichatd C Andersan ajain, Dr... i l l i t..a a shite, ajain, and tw; i
25 cdditional ind iv iG ua l s,
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Uin61 varkar, ;/ a o in auperviv>r e
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h1 structural enjiacer with bachtel, 2nd Jr. Pat Cha:c-Lo, who 4:
iG project unjiacer in structural for Me ht o i
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l ec o pl e frou 3
I aave indicated bcfore, tuerg,will be other l
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/, a c h t e l aba could b(
.a c.d e available if the s i t u a t i '> n arides 4
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'a in the co ur se of the presentation.
3 In ad d i ti o n to those two panels, we wo ul d also plea 7
to rovide te s t i: tony by two i nde ise r.j en t consultants retained e
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Lj Portland
'.M n e r a l Electric una tc.tified at the +teariaj un l
9 interiu operation, and tout soula he Professors baris otesler 10 3ad Ayle J.
Holley ano they.co ul a also be testifyin3 on the 11
.tr uc t ur al c.cequacy.iuestion.
12 1 <,ijht. te ka just one uaall po i n t here.
In t t,e
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l' 3 caard'u a e.a u r a r.d u a of, 1 Delieve, F e b r u r.t y 20, it was 14 requested t.iu t testimony oa c u'a,a i t t ed in quantian anJ e n s.<e r lt f o r <a.
he planned to do that Dasically for thu testinony of J
ancls that I have id en ti Cieil.
16 t ho s.e two c 17 hith rcogect to the testitaon y o f Profecsors uresler i
id u n ':. iiull ey, se d id n' t think it wo ulo N appropriate for us to 1 :>
ush them qu9stions and, in essence, direct what autters they i
l 20 wauld addrw s.
/. 0 hb u duked theni -- the c o.a pct n y h a s asked
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.11 thea to prepare and Submit a r e po r t to us which they did, l
22 r e fl ec tin j their review at the proposua mo-jifications and 23 their conclusionu with rcSpect to its ade.juacy, snd n'
would
.M expect that their r epo r t to the C o. i pa n y would )
their diruct i
t 1
2b te s t ioon y in tala proceeding.
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h1 we raa4 aak thou saue adtiitional quantions orally resent the:a as witnecces.
/.ad, of course, they will 2
~aaen se c 3
oe ava ilable. to answer all quantions that the iaard b :w.
not 4
1 a s u u.a e that wauld be nat uaecceptable to the Board.
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b C liA I MA N 4ILL3k:
Na, we will e<ercise the
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6 Ji u c r e t i o n :a uc.: h we have heard the taa pr o f e s.< a a r s tectinony.
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I am not concerned about your auility to 19ed t h eri.
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d they are joing to te st inony *pr e t t y,a uc h.
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10 I think you will reco ptica i f we en to t o') this order,
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11 we do have a probleu from time to time of ex per t witnessen to 12 think of thencalves as advocates or una rejard te s tiraon y a n 4
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1) sort of like a script rather than their aun.
I don' L su] Jest 14 or I think 1 n o ted in the Trojan order that we aeren't 15 implyinj that tha t occ ur r ed in this case.
But a would like
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16 Ear counsel to po i n t out to the witneuses, councel are always 17 ware of the problem, but the witnesueu aren't necessarily.
la da this is so.a e thi n ; se are tryinj to do with all witnessen, 19 both expert and nonexpert, to get t h ua to testiEy and the 20 fact that i t's written direct testimony doesn't uean that
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21 it's not direct testimonf.
I t.
they stap anJ think of 22 quaation and annaar the y a r e rao r e likely to think of it as 2.1 testiuony and re.jard the:aaelves a s advoca tes.
x-prefer the
-@ 24 lawyers not to testi f y and [or the witnesses nat to act as i
1 35' advocates.
Ucco stick to his own douain and we got alon) d COV L Cll & rod YC RI i
et ge-* v e-f e's-- t yg sw'r,
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.e c<ercise Glacretion in that r e :J a rd anJ I ou i
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2 dure t h :2 t
'a can t.a k e fare of the si t ua t io n that yo u iMve 3
descrioe'.i, ar. A<elred.
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Kn. AKuldAU:
'nia t I con t.h a n k yo u,
it. Chairman.
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I tiijht a li,a sa y ea r t ic ul a r l y in light of the liaitei om unt l
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ut time available, it auy be poscit>1e that everythinj tna t va t
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are doinj, that Bec h t el z, nd PCE is Jo ing d u' inj thia wee k i m y r
d not necessar ily be able to oe reduced to question-aauwar fo ru.
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/. iua pl e, it 'a i<j h t well be the i n f o r'aa t io n that is beinj i
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.a un a i t. t e d in reapanse to this request by the Staff :ig ht be 11 just un a t t ac h. ien t to the testimony 12 J!!4 I d v.:J 11 L LM :
e understand.
,Je can al w a ys ask
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13 nave you.aaue studies, aescribe t ho e.e st ud ies, t so iuestions, 14 yau've jot 15 ulautes anyway.
Is the spirit.vith which wa 15 are apptoachinj it.
Is nd I c a.
Sure co un s el are awat e o f' its
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16 a l.) n i f i c a n c e.
In tulu case, uecause of the tin e a n.1 the ce r ta inl y in tend ' to i nd ul j e bnf use a 17 other aspects, ne lb little discretion.
ta don' t want ta cl ow yo u clo',la in any wa y.
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- b way.
2,e know yo u have o lot to do and you are within 20 three weks of triul, ar en' t yo u.
U3 wa ho pe everyorie will
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21 coo pe r a te.. i t h everyone elue to focus, expedite, save time 22 wherever it's passible anc u2 will look far,ard ta neeing you 23 in three ice e k a.
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No appreclate that, 4r. Chairnan.
25 I,11jht just a:3d that se pl an to, in addition to the duvVICH & dul. A nI i
3b79 hl pregared te s t i;ao n y, La J ub:li t two basic c /. h i b i t o whic;i wo ul t.
2 be the balanco of our pr esen ta t i o n.
Un e, of courve, would be 3
PGd 1020 as revised.
And the other wauld be what I referred 4
to boivre, thin thick book ar pe r h:t pa a couple of acoku, i
b anica w/o u ld contain sithin it al1 oL the hicensce's quonittcl O
to tna thiC With r e s pe c L to PnaGe ? of Li K+
pr oce ed in j, end I 7
juess in lijht at the mention of the anawers to the 03.5 D
U in te r I o j a to r 10 0 anJ the conditions ;:r o l:a se d by the itaff, '/ e J
.uijht well includa that in that bo3k, also.
10 Taoaz two volu aea,
'io ul d, in essence, be the 11 exhibita.
It.ady be by ciarch 17 or oy the Line of trial that 12 other exhibits 00 w to aind, but t h ii t.
is hiiically what I G
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13 envisaje at this t i m.e would oc i ncl u !ed.
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All right.
1 lb ci n. AXU LimD:
I :lijht mention one laGL thinj whilu D
l ti de ar e on the subject of tu n t i'a u ny.
la the courau of thn2 17 discussions that we had with the WP Staff an 4 arch 7 ubich lu lea to thuuu additional questions wh i c h thov, 0
ar these 19 od d i t i a:l al requeLLS ior s up pl an en t el information which they 20 ude of us, we ri iJ Lalk about the po s s i 511 i t y o f v/.l e t h e r j
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21 there aljht Ju 3ame additional cons tr uc t io n d e ta il t. 'ch ic h 22 uljht prvvide so.n e add i t io nal improveaents wi th respect to 23 t he fix itselt.
Le are currently reviewin) that.
- f. n d there O
$25 is a jusaioility that several small iteau of a ditior.cl
.b i!aprovmaents co uld oa bene 11cial.
hw will revica that.
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l' 11 uy iurch I '/, se decic thet t h e r e.11..; h t a? r.Jae aa.iuficial i
2 effects fro,a thoue, ve Jill 'leburibu that in uur te s t i: m ny 1
' a til with raspect to thu, to the re f in e.aen t af structural 3'
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4 uaequacy and witn respect to the ta r h :S a d ho w, In d t th'-
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itLalf ib jainj to canuist. of.
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Tuonk yau.
Yn Jt t, I t h i n i;,
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coastitutes c jood description af the witnesses and the type
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S of written te s t i.lo ny that the Licensee conta jlates.
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will be.j o i n g first, then, in the order of proof?
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ftK d La.w :
len, on nonatr ac tural alaya nc y.
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h yanc alue wi.a u to?
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Tae Staff aill identi f y the witnesssa
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14 Ja will jresent a panel of Ja an 1; 4n ic h t and Fred 15 Clonenson who L.r e our or were pert of the ploat 3f uten3 D'
1G lirunca in the d iv i.si a n o f a pa r a tin j reactoro.
And they aill l '1 t.astity cc to the E.ataty of tra operations d ur i n..j the l '.
.udification..
i:41 ;. vill encompass ulate t'n11ing operations, 15 protection of equipacnt fraa sor4, constraction wo r 4<.
a nni 20 their teatioony aill cover thode kind of araar.
21 ne will precent
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Charles Traaaell who is Gr
/2 Jtaff project imac3er for tha Trojan,:lant du vill ea t to B
23 in t r od uc e the U -i f e t y Evaluation haport, identif) 'bosc 24 ud'fSonu W!!J prepdred the V c: t io u 3 StelionL Jf ti10 s ct f e t i i
2b LVU10& tion deport SIld wh3, by thO s!3 y, are ditn3SDOa.
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T r oiaiaell will alw present testiaany on the pro po s ed' l ic en se i
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cond i tions,.1 icense co nd i t io ns that the Staff nas pr o po sed to l-clarity'What they involve.
Thay will alDo present testimony
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4 on the railroad spur and the Control auildin] equipment ha tc h 5
modifications.- There were que stions rai sed d ur inj the 5
ptenearing~ conference back in Maren of 1979 as to the ourpose L7 of the railroad spur going throujh the Con trol Build ing and
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- B what the ra;alfications of that-being reloved, and also the 9
~pur pose o f the equi paen t ha tc h in the Control Building which 10
.'is acinj made n.aaller and the ramifications of that
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13 henneth ;1 erring, at. Drew Persinko str uct ur al enJineering --
14 CHAIOlid 4ILLSR:
Who oesides Mr. He r r in:)?
15 M it. O RA l:
Drew Persinko -- wha are structural
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16 engineers in tne en:J inee r ing branch and who have boon 17 r e a pa n s ible for the Sta f f's str uc tural remifications o f the 18 modifications.
And they will testify as to the structural I
19 effects of the modification work itself, those effects as it usar in:s on plant ope r a tion.and also oa the 20 uay have a
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21 s tr uc t ur al adequacy of the uodifications to restore the 22-desired intended margins and bring the facility in
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aubstantial coiapliance with the license.
4 Tne Sta f f would intend, also, to introduce as an
. the Staf f Ca fety Lvalua tion Baport,
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352) i hl C ilA L G &ul IILLER:
lo that aoout it?
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4R. G,M Y :
Yes, ait.
1 C HA 1 F. M ei s t LLLit:
Okay,, t a t cr of Orejon' l
4 4R. W Tit!\\ N OC:t :
Tme State of Orejaa intends to :all 1
'a Ur. Harold Larsen sha testifieG in Phase l of thin O r c> c e u ' i n )
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5 concerning the st r uc tur al adequacy questions.
And ua any 1
7 call either D30alo G ori a rd, C 0 DA K 3,
or id r. v.illia:a Dixon, i
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both of vih o zi are an the Staff of the OreJon "e p.' r ta e n t of 9
oner jy and r e s po n s i ble for regulating enerjy facilitius to 1
10 teatify concernlug the na fe ty que ntions.
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11 C il A l ml:\\ N 4ILLiTl:
Any reparts or studies that you
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are a,/a r t of.
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Nat at this tiae.
14 Ctl'\\1 R M N MILLSk:
All rijht.
Ukay, intervennrd.
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GELL:
Tae intervenort aren't planning to call
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1G i, n y witneLSes at this t i,a e ar present any tentiaony 17 JUSIR4AN SILLR:
Pa rJon ae.
It E.
JCLL:
The intervenors aren' t j.lannirq to c o 'l l 19 any sitnesses at tais tine or present any tastinony.
.! O C iU\\ I R 4 A N AILLER:
Any studies of documente that i gu e
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vii u h to enter any evidence?
22 r10. ddLL:
Not at this pa i n t.
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ful ya n c else?
[ gue,s tuat',
.a l 1 24 t ile partiea.
i 25 All right, I take it that covera p r e t t. y "i uc h t %-
I JLaVICit & ROZ fJ KI E -
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witnessau who we are able to id.ntif-2 tate and th.
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La y t n i n.; f ur t he r' 3
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Cha i r: ir.n, di* jau au far 6ny 4
Eur ther iteas, 610 I war that?
C ti \\ 1 R i T N HILL Q:
Well, ther" are various i t e: iL w
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5 are join'j to L t u'i f overnijht and re po r t in th" iorninj on.
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shore is a sta t te r o f a stipulatian that uy colleajuaa want 15 J
to te l s about.
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T. i a t ' a win a t I waL sto nd e r i a ' about.
IU C U T 1 H WI 41LLLU:
I see.
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iasol10 and N;.
Bell, uy notes an y)ur orijinal 1
1 li p r o pa u e'.i inteations verify oc at 1ocuit tetresh -ay m.ary 5 ni' O
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13 that au to the etiect th.* t safety at the plant, >afaty in 14 cannection situ c.o c t nuclear Encilities in the 3 abject of 15 nece>sity, an' if s,"
jot la u to tho nitty-gritty it suuld
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16 have to ua loaa in encra ay peo ple who is r t -<perts in the 17
<2;urity fiela.
IS rN r e i e, a orocedure 1:t u :; in one utoer 1<at.Joinj j
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an no, out it h e.a s thin aapcct that the less disclosure that R
there i e, in tae 1.u b l i c recorc or atharaise of sainty
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21 gr ec t ic s.u, tna Jaf:r everyone la, the safeguato:
nd t!'
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- >r oced ur e a ano everycbinj.
ith that in 4 i n.., and a pr ac tice Z3 ia unica 1 deal with aeveral other cauen in tne Mid'.
St thet
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M I aroach2d the iaentian to the intervonors, and I do to yo u 2S gecifically, t,la t in ordet to eaa r ? a: ource1ve, to your felt JCOVICa & h ui iC n l
e q h
,, a o ule o n.! e r L i' ' to 1
on] L p r: 3 3. u concurab ; b o u t.
- Lucurity, 2
- ta v o the J t i; L L <> <. 5 i j t i Jacurity e<
- ert, in thcir stofL, ia 3
La 3 p a r., nat conne ; tei' vilh this casa, to <> m on
.ructices t'
to in<ie, 'ndeat stuG; anu i.ua i t Ji the sn fe ti
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L nave in uinn thu a d d i t. i a n al work af the k i n'! that was et
'a least contulc l a t. c i,
f.l a t <' v e r it t i..} h t be, to ded. tat ic' aul
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,s a ula bh/J uton the existin) or i.r o j ec t Lo G a f 0 L ';
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5d that ec a )rce to
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a note a..a stiaulation, anj We did ay
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I've gat 10 r e,; a.. l e n i it,
- ecau;e is falt that your vaula., e r v o-jour 11 inter"Jt
- oud the puJlic woulo sj u t a tharuujh re/i% '. r/
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ti.l a t the ci t ua t.io n a a t.
an caul) injtet inta G
O IJ it Lo2 auditianol as; 2cta.
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that re par t., : ~ Lh2n one by is toe Utait.
If aa ciu: r e not a'>le ta jive the concluaion Md
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1.2 r e:.: ;nt. n d ul a t i o n that yau sc c, ne saula hi.v e ageneJ it u>.
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... w... t n t: sim! ;f study ano inde,an :nt
- c. e th; s t a.. y 1/
cvaluation uy scueuae t n :i t wauld L. n o., what cao dainj a n-sa a i
la ac t involve 4 us 7 sitat
.5 in thia c m.s e inj we therefore felt 1) that toot end. tne a tter aa far 05 the intervenor vaa zu concerne'.
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.21 L 00 recall a q u-a n t i a n raised by yau 9t uur 1:2st prenearia, conterance at tne una hafore that,.there I
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Ma l S L. r
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nut I, 2i n t e a Lo tell you
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/.s chairaan aavin; rulea, I Jauld 'ertainly at
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inclined to adhere to s uch r uling, but I want to also give 2
.you an oppo r tun i ty if yo u have anything either add i tio nal to 3
present.
'io u h w e a ri=3ht to make sure record.
4 Fifi. lWGOLIC:
Yes, Mr. ' Cha irman.
In rejards to 5
that.cti;ulation, the Sta f f filed an a f fid avit on August 10th.
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And ther are certain statencats in that offidavit t,at bejin t-7 on page 5 of that-affidavit which state, " Based on ay revieu
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'and evaluation of the Trojan security plant, and 9
ita pl emen ta t io n. meas ur e s a nd s ec ur i t.y a nd protection provided i
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both during and after the Control Building compl e <
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'll modifications, I have determined that."
And there is a list
- 1. 2 of A throujh G, a determination made by Willia.n Ibss.
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13 hw, since thdt tiae, several thinjs have occurred i
i 14 out at tha Trojan Nuclear Power Pl a n t site,.one being the j
15 probl e of the use af drugs by security personnel and
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' security violations in which unauthorized pe r so ns we r e g iv en 17 access to restricted areas.
18 Wow, I believe all we are asking is that since those l ')
thin.js were nat.taken into consideration which at the tiae i
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~this affidavit was written and which is admitted to by Staff
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21' counsel at the last hearing, that-the Staff do take those 22 t h i rr.j a i n to consideration and perhaps maybe va could see a 23.
new evaluation which we celieve is needed at this tima, 24 considering those advancements the NiiC Staff has done r
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As I dujjuJtdi to you criar to th noon recess, it'a Jifficult t'o r :n to se) in W la t My
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hn any :;e a r i n j articularl / Jith this Cabs.
c iv e 2l l u:l e to, t 'e y 6
If Laure are proDie is tha t y3u l
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5 Jettainly would ae problca; which U3ulu se h e r e.
in Lue Trojen Lacility, but n ci t an y que st io ru '* b o u t the Control odildin1 a
7 A ;a d u t o :> h nic.jirlfriehu there or Whatever it des quiq ouet a
La UC, 1 a on' t re.1eiact the dutails, out I clon' t think thero 9
la cay yueutian that the iscuJ 15 t '. c.:
'Jutution of the C3ntrol i
dention L.:.a t anyuae b:s s. a c d. t, aaa the I. 30t 12 LU
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/,. i y 3 11 ta use what say, in f:a c t, there is a Jant.Iol Guilcin) l?
to J. i f i c a t i o n, ru g ual tnat ;1a ke o Livi uituotion cia y Jiffer: i t.
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the jaard -- I don' t j
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- n a.,..nuthur toe ; ua r 'I s are on controct, u
- ie r e tne:y coae Er a: 1 lb u tv1 su farto,.suen yua boil rijnt uusn, I aappaw your
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1; p aJtion r ebt:
an a en uartion timt the :e r sc> nnel, the doin; the
.io r k on the Cantrol.Juildinj 17 or k.a.a
.s. o woulu ;e u
1 id c.o j i f i c a t i o n
.s > u l d be leus trustwarthj Croa a,0eority 19 u t a nd pa i n t froa the pe o pl e that yua sere c oni pl a i n i n j of, end 2L L
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no t at all sure that that [ allee.
Tney alJ ht be more
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21 c o a.a u i e n t i o u s, they tiijht o '.- less,
.ih a t sre t h e <> e boerrationy 22 are that yau are r eferr inj to.
Av> I uaven't y te t wttan to 13 tue point snere I feel l i !,o join) i n to it in any da t ini tive 9 24 sease.
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25 I don't w a rs 'lo w aany p e o pl e have beca i nv ol v eti dd P
T> C d V I C i! s Md.idCl
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a hl one wito Trojan or 9, n a t Lau j e r c a n t o ;; e is or waat th io;r;u i
2 ot r i e, is af,e/eral inc id e n t e taal v30 h2 /t. u. a t i o n c l.
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if touy 3
dsn't t.
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he st r uc tur e, naaever tin! L e ' Jurity H a i;l a
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b are, I don't kaas ahether they art NE e it l o y 0'3.2.
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know
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og a p r o.j r b.a.
1.; o n ' t K r.a w abatever contrast you at e.ickinj
.t and the cons'.r uc t io n pe o pl e Who wouln he in thJ 3
octween the i
arca on a liuited o c. J i u kul undcr Supervision 3s the oatter 10 nau aean leberioca to us j e n e r ci l l ;.
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11 If you wanted to go inLo N6tters i n r>o f a r 3L i
12 jerdannal a n,. tua controlu anc o Earth, I t h i n :, thay Ji l v e 9
lj uuen uuscribcd ay PGL, and undountedly vii l l uy tne ~.ii t:ic o n r: 3 14
/a a are te.i t i f y i n j as to naw tacy c o n t c.a pl a t.e landlinj the 15 nnoie procaad, tne audificationa, too people wao will bc D
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.iu a st io ns that yo u have raiued in 'he event of 17 en e ac t j anc y at fire or shat not.
16 Lt jau wl ah to cus k acutions t.nat corn uinn t' m u a D
1) avecific plans and t h o.,0 u p.ec i f ic p r o t l eaa,
.ce w;uld oe anythinj that Ms
- i. 0 inclined to pe r.a i t you t -).
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- .i.a u l d cau,u as to ind ul'j e la any even t3 sit i
l 23 a s d om: ption tnat th9 peaple involvta Ltd less trustscrtay than O.d 4 the p a c i,l e out there tuat you are c a.n pl e i h i n j d> nut,
'./a i c h j
dL e, h a u l a alaost navo to be, I juess, o t h s. r wi b a y>ur problen 1:5 I
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a ; t. i n:j in 0:.sically it aa upJaLe af the Sta1 [' a affidavit of (1
Aujust 10.
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Isa+, let
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Stafi, do l
.au a6/u any groolea livinj an u,+:te?
I d o n ' t.
thinP. that' 3
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unreasonnalt, nat necessarily because we don' t want ta lot
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J i n to uptaific tatters.
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9 Jareananaale to ask thc Utaff axpert to a d.e an ujd n t 2
'a y l 'd a f f id.a v i t or h a.!e v e r you handled it before 11 4R. Gus t:
Tais wa ul d be an upd a tc to an e<act time 12 Laat il recansicern the security u3 e f. f uc ted by Lna i
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>f the r ec t-o r security, 1 :J u( L.:
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The fedt i t' u r;asonable, thib
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+x eert au 0] t c j a r:! ed by the Gtaff, a nt I ua:,ierstaarl D
lo bl i.iuali f.1 :a t l an o are excellent, I don't kna..
h i"t 3)c r san ally.
L7 out be is incupenteut of this caaa.
And I t h i n r.
as far as 1 ",
tniS oaurd is cancernLJ, we believe it would give you a 19 reasanuble chance to nave the matter.Jona into and ;t uj i ud
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'vi ta pur L ic ui ar it y fraa y'>ur oda stan3 point at L t.i s planL
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2.1 si th yet those natters in mind cad y2L not start ayaning 42 questicac to al.o k o nia abaut it and the rest of it.
. hen you 23 Linc out Sto r e done in a pa r t ic ul e r plant th;.a o r a id em ; you j
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reable there aijbt bc locurity risk, out'a put it 24 J ive to I
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t b r o u J L-> U L L.m cuou tr y
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r,0 c u t i t. 'y to av Lacurity, feu vr ii t it to :;e testu!, Dut jou 1
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iau don't.. c u t ta Jrite a ;;r i.v r for,nynn. '/ha 1
.< a n t :5 to boot it out U n 't
!o, :ici te v e r it is tlic y 'lo.
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acva the 9taf[ r: ;pe r t.
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addr m,m t a e r en2 c c el m,: om x n.
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I u n a t r t: t a n:j t hirt.
in i.' enL it la LhatJUjo Gil i r
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'n r t 11;atte it than 1u
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