ML20091H849
| ML20091H849 | |
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| Site: | Vogtle  |
| Issue date: | 07/19/1995 |
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Tape 69 2
3 ODOM:
Chaffee basically said, "That's 4
not a correct statement."
And then Brockman said --
5 and Chaffee said, "I remember a couple of weeks ago 6
we were hearing about this not being correct."
And 7
Brockman spoke up and said, " Yeah.
You heard it 8
from the Region."
And that's all he said.
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thought he was going to help us out by what Brockman 10 had been talking to, you know.
11 MOSBAUGH:
Uh-huh.
12 ODOM:
And that's all he said.
So they 13
-- whether they say anything more or not, I don't 14 know; but they picked up on that statement, and they 15 were making an issue for two or three (inaudible), you know.
16 MOSBAUGH:
Right, uh-huh.
17 ODOM:
Tell John if you would that (inaudible) where, you know, we struggled 18 with that statement.
19 MOSBAUGH:
Uh-huh.
20 ODOM:
Is that it -- it's getting a i
21 little more attention by the IIT (inaudible).
22 ODOM:
I don't know whether they'll do 23 anything more or not.
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They know they're not right by i
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25-that statement, you know.
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1 MOSBAUGH:
It's more than not right.
2 ODOM:
Yeah, I know.
3 MOSBAUGH:
I'm not done, but I'm looking 4
at the -- see, Kenny just got the log.
5 ODOM:
Yeah.
6 MOSBAUGH:
Okay.
7 ODOM:
Yeah.
8 MOSBAUGH:
I reviewed a little bit of 9
that with him yesterday.
We're going to do some 10 more, but I think we've got a real problem.
11 (Inaudible.)
12 ODOM:
Well, the other pzoblem with 13 (inaudible) the LER.
I don't have it in front of me 14 now.
But it talked about a fuel oil annunciator 15 coming in, a lube oil alarm and a fuel oil.
16 MOSBAUGH:
That's correct.
17 ODOM:
They're saying --
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That's in the log somewhere.
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19 ODOM:
They're saying... They don't 20 recall ever hearing that before.
21 MOSBAUGH:
Uh-huh.
That's in the log.
22 That's written up in the critique log.
23 ODOM:
They didn't recall that.
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5 MOSBAUGH:
Was this a professional 4
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7 BEACHER:
No.
This was --' John 8
Churchwell went in and did it.
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ODOM:
I thought they were asking about 10 the 18. starts.
11 BEACHER:
Yeah.
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(Inaudible.)
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They had a lot of problems,
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I 14 interpreting the LER.
15 MOSBAUGH:
We're talking about the LER?
16 BEACHER: 'Well, they reviewed the LER --
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17 ODOM:
And the letter?
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The LER. We're talking about the 19 LER.
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21 BEACHER:
The LER.
22 ODOM:
Not the letter, the LER.
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LER.
In the LER, he talked 24 about whether or not the annunciators (inaudible).
25 He said there's a discrepancy because they had more
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3 ODOM:
The fuel oil, the fuel oil.
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Fuel oil was one of them.
5 ODOM:
Right.
And the start phrase --
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" Eighteen starts with no 7
problem" -- he said that he had heard that before, 3
8 and he thinks that's not true.
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ODOM:
Brockman spoke up and said --
10 BEACHER:
Brockman spoke up -- spoke up 11 and made a comment that --
12 ODOM:
"You heard it from us."
13 BEACHER:
Yeah, "you heard it from us."
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Region II and (inaudible.)
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Like
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21 What l'm trying to say is that that was in the LER.
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Yeah.
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Right, the April 5th.
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the Region.
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Yeah, Lewis Ward...
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5 I told Shipman; and I said, you know, "This is not 6
true."
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Yeah.
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"You guys better check your i
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And I gave him specific data on dates and 10 times that -- where I was aware that we had known 11 failures.
12 ODOM:
Oh, yeah.
This is...I wish that 13 day we had a real sensitive issue with the thing...
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15 MOSBAUGH:
They blew it off.
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I thought they did, too, that's-17 what I heard.
I heard the Region was contacted and 18 said, "Okay, we understand."
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I was on the phone with the t
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They blew it off.
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And they might blow it off now, 22 but this IIT team --
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No.
What I mean is they -- I 24 mean SONOPCO blew it off.
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I'm not saying the NRC blew it 2
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3 ODOM:
I heard that we contacted Brockman 4
personally --
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McCoy came back on the 6
conversation on the phone and said, " Yeah, I just 7
talked to Ken Brockman, and he understands that 8
there were failures in the process of coming out of 9
the maintenance on the machine."
Okay.
Well, that 10 may be, okay.
There were failures coming out of 11 the maintenance on the machine, okay, but there were 12 also failures in a period of time that I considered 13 to be beyond the maintenance on the machine.
14 ODOM:
Okay.
15 MOSBAUGH:
Okay?
16 BEACHER:
They want to talk with the guy 17 who actually did the work on those valves, the 18 accumulator installation valve, the charging and 19 pump valve.
They want to talk with Mike Kagel again 20 concerning installation of the hatch, pressurizing 21 manway.
I guess what they're getting at -- getting 22 at.is how the communication related.
It appears as 23 though Hopkins told Mike Kagle (inaudible).
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(Reading) Lube oil pressure sensor 2
malfunction and fuel oil level high.
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4 ODOM:
They're saying this right here is new 5
to them (inaudible).
6 VOICE:
They never heard that piece of 7
information.
8 Although they've got the narrative the 9
same as we do.
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(Inaudible.)
tripped the 11 diesel.
12 ODOM:
It's in the narrative though.
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That's where it came from.
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The other problem that they had a l
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17 WEBB:
Where did we talk about that?
18 VOICE:
I don't know.
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Oh, it's the number of starts l
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21 MOSBAUGH:
Where it's at, Tom?
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Back towards the end, wasn't it?
23 BEACHER:
Was it page 6 or something?
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On page 6, halfway.
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2-VOICE:
(Reading] "Have been started 3
at.least eighteen times each and no failure or 4
problems have occurred during any of these starts."
5 ODOM:- That's true.
Any of the eighteen 6
times --
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VOICE: I know it's true the way it's written.
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I told Al they were hitting on 10 that.
They were really' focused on that.
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I thought Brockman was going to I
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13 ODOM:
I thought he was going to help us 1
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15 WEBB:
He didn't --
16 ODOM:- He said, "What you heard where the 17 problem was is from the Region."
And he dropped it,
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And that's all he said.
You know, 19 like, come on, Ken, speak up.
Tell us some more --
t 20 VOICE: Another question --
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-- if you know more, help us out 22 here (chuckling).
j 23 VOICE: I thought we explained that to them.
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Yeah, McCoy talked to him; that's i'
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And these fellows observed that 2
the jacket water pressure was 12 to 13 pounds.
They 3
asked if that was wnen the diesel was running or 4
after a trip.
I said, "Well, the way it reads, I 5
think it's after the trip."
(Inaudible.)
He said, 6
"Okay."
ODOM: That's the way he understood it, too.
VOICE: So 7
he understands.
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Okay.
You wanted to be informed i
9 of that; obviously two or three ears were on that 10 phone call today?
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Uh-huh.
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And uh, I wish these guys would 13 just go away, man.
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Uh-huh.
15 BEACHER:
(Inaudible) come back with I
16 three sets of data taken, which we told them --
17 ODOM:
Yes, it was --
18 BEACHER: -- yes, it was taken.
- However, 19 now they want to see the dog-gone data.
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But they're the same.
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I know.
They -- they were the 22 same, the actual.
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We can get it to them.
It's the same l
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