ML20040A751
| ML20040A751 | |
| Person / Time | |
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| Issue date: | 08/19/1981 |
| From: | Palladino N NRC COMMISSION (OCM) |
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| Shared Package | |
| ML19248B549 | List: |
| References | |
| FOIA-81-3 1, FOIA-81-3-1 NUDOCS 8201220045 | |
| Download: ML20040A751 (6) | |
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5 Beekman Street IN RESPONSE REFER New York, NY 10038 TO F01A-81-351
Dear Mr Miglietta:
This is in further response to your letter dated August 27, l?31, in which you requested, pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act, copies i
of the transcript, notes, recordings, or other records of a meeting held August 18 or 19,1981, at NRC where FEMA officials reported on the j
interim state of emergency preparedness around nuclear power plants in New York State.
Enclosed is a memorandum dated August 20, 1981 from William J. Dircks to I
Victor Stello, Robert B. Minogue, and Howard K. Shapar, subject:
Emergency Freparedness Items. Also enclosed for your information are " Introductory Remarks for Meeting with FEMA" by Chairman Palladino, dated August 19, 1981.
This completes NRC's action on your request.
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8201220045 810928 PDR FOIA MIGLIET 81-351 PDR
CHAIRMAN PALLADINO INTRODUCTORY REMARKS FOR MEETING WITH FEMA-AUGUST 19, 1981 LOU, 1 AM VERY PLEASED THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF COULD 4 JOIN US TODAY TO DISCUSS A' COMPLEX AND IMPORTANT PROBLEM FOR WHICH NRC AND FEMA SHARE INTERLOCKING RESPONSIBILITIES -- NAMELY THE PROBLEM OF DEVELOPING, IMPLEMENTING, TESTING AND EVALUATING EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANS.FOR PROTECTING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE NEARBY PUBLIC IN THE EVENT OF AN ACCIDENT AT A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT.
AS THE REST OF YOU MAY KNOW, GENERAL GIUFFRIDA AND I HAD AN EARLIER MEETING AT WHICH WE EXPRESSED A MUTUAL DESIRE TO COPE HEAD-ON WITH THE PROBLEMS WE FACE..
HIS POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE ATTITUDE'WAS INDEED QUITE REFRESHING TO ME.
HE WANTS TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE FACE.
I WANT.TO ADD THAT I AM PREPARED TO HAVE fiRC DO EVERYTHING WITHIN ITS POWER TO ALSO HELP SOLVE THIS KNOTTY PROBLEM.
WHAT l'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS SPEND A'FEW MINUTES DISCUSSING THE GENERAL SITUATION AS I SEE IT.
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' THIS IS AN ESPECIALLY COMPLEX PROBLEM BECAUSE IT PLACES ON A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT OWNER THE REQUIREMENT THAT BOTH ONSITE AND OFFSITE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS BE DEVELOPED, IMPLEMENTED AND TESTED BEFORE AN OPERATING LICENSE CAN BE GRANTED EVEN THOUGH THE UTILITY OWNING THE PLANT HAS CONTROL ONLY OF THE ONSITE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
IT DOES NOT HAVE CONTROL OF THE OFFSITE EMERGENCY EMERGENCY PLANSJ THESE ARE THE PROVINCE OF THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
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THE INTERLOCKING RESPONSIBILITIES OF NRC AND FEMA ARISE FROM THE FACTS THAT:
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NRC MUST EVALUATE AND APPROVE ONSITE PREPAREDNESS' 2.
FEMA MuST EVALUATE AND DEVELOP FINDINGS ON OFFSITE PRE-
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PAREDNESS. CURRENTLY FEMA INCLUDES ATTENTION TO BOTH THE PLAN DETAILS AND THE ADEQUACY OF, EXECUTION BASED ON EXERCISE OF THE PLAN (FEMA DOES THIS NOT ONLY FOR THE LICENSE APPLICA-TION BUT ANNUALLY THEREAFTER).
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STATES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS VARY IN THEIR FINANCIAL AND 2
TECHNICAL ABILITY AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT PLANS.
HENCE, ASSISTANCE FROM FEMA, NRC, AND THE UTILITY MUST OFTEN BE PROVIDED.
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THE FEMA FINDINGS ON THE OFFSITE PLAN MUST BE DEVELOPED AND SUBMITTED TO THE NRC HEARING BOARD AT THE START OF THE l
HEARING DISCOVERY PROCESS, WHICH ON THE AVERAGE TAKES PLACE ABOUT 11 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE NEED FOR THE LI' CENSE.
THIS REQUIREMENT HAS NOT BEEN WELL UNDERSTOOD BY THE UTILITIES INVOLVED AND MUST BE STRONGLY BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
THIS MUST BE DONE ESPECIALLY IF THE PRE-LICENSING EXERCISE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE FINDING.
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SINCE THE PRESENT SCOPE OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS IS RELA-i TIVELY NEW, FOR T!!OSE PLANTS READY OR NEARLY READY FOR OPERATION IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE TO AVOID LICENSING DELAYS.
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THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS REQUIREMENTS INVOLVE THE NEED FOR SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES BOTH IN NRC AND FEMA BUT ESPECIALLY ON THE PART OF FEMA.
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AT THE PRESENT TIME, SOME 21 NEW NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE READY FCo. OPERATION AND HENCE, FOR OPERATING LICENSES, BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 1982.
FOURTEEN MORE ARE
. EXPECTED TO REACH THIS STAGE IN CALENDAR YEAR 1983.
THIS LARGE BACKLOG OF LICENSING ACTIONS AROSE IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THE ACTIONS THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF THE TMI-2 ACCIDENT PRECLUDED ORDERLY AND TIMELY ATTENTION TO THE LICENSING PROCESS FOR NEARLY 2' YEARS FOLLONING THE ACCIDENT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE NEED FOR MORE EXTENSIVE AND BETTER EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WAS ONE OF THE RESULTS OF THE TMI-2 ACCIDENT.
CONGRESS HAS BECOME QUITE CONCERNED IN THE LAST 10 MONTHS ABOUT THE FACT THAT A NUMBER OF COMPLETED PLANTS OR THOSE NEARING COMPLETION WILL FACE DELAYS IN OBTAINING LICENSES.
CONGRESS HAS ASKED FOR, AND HAS BEEN RECEIVING, MONTHLY PROGRESS REPORTS ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MONTHS OF DELAY THAT ARE PROJECTED FOR THE 35 PLANTS REFERRED TO EARLIER.
THIS CONCERN ARISES FROM THE FACT THAT EACH MONTH'S DELAY REPRESENTS A COST OF BETWEEN 20 AND 30 MILLION DOLLARS PER PLANT.
AT FIRST THE POTENTIAL DELAYS WERE EXPRESSED SOLEY IN TERMS OF DELAYS INTRODUCED BY NRC',' IT WAS NOT UNTIL A FEW MONTHS AGO I
THAT THE IMPACT OF FEMA'S RESPONSIBILITIES BEGAN TO EMERGE.
IT NOW APPEARS THAT FEMA'S DUTIES MAY INTRODUCE DELAYS FAR GREATER THAN THOSE ARISING FROM NRC'S ACTIVITIES.
WHEN THE TWO ARE ADDED TOGETHER, THE DELAYS REPRESENT COSTS IN THE RANGE OF 3 TO 5 BILLION DOLLARS ON THE PART OF THE DELAYED UTILITIES.
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. I HOPE THAT AT TODDY'S' MEETING WE CAN:
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GET A BETTER HANDLE ON THE RESPECTIVE DELAYS OUR OPERATIONS ENTAIL IF EVENTS PROCEED AS CURRENTLY ENVISIONED.
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EVALUATE HOW THE SITUATION MIGHT BE IMPROVED IF CONGRESS PASSES' INTERIM LICEN, SING REGULATION WHEREBY THE EMERGENCY PREPARFDNESS ISSUE WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE CRITICAL PATH FOR MANY OF THE FUTURE PLANTS.
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DETERMINE WHAT STEPS WE CAN TAKE TO REDUCE THE PROJECTED DELAYS.
HAVING SEEN THE DISPLEASURE EXPRESSED BY THE CONGRESS OVER JUST THE i;RC DELAYS, 1 AM CONCERNED THAT CONGRESS WILL HIT THE CEILING WHEN IT REALIZES THE MAGNITUDE OF THE POTENTIAL DELAYS WE MIGHT JOINTLY BE FACING.
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TO GET THE PROGRAM STARTED TODAY, l'D FIRST LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE~
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME OPENING REMARKS, AFTER THAT, I HAVE ASKED OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR OPERATIONS, MR WILLIAM DIRCKSs TO AMPLIFY ON THE REQUIREMENTS ON NRC THAT IMPACT ON THIS PROBLEM.-
THEN, HE WILL DISCUSS, MORE SPECIFICALLY THAN I HAVE, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DELAYS PROJECTED UNDER VARIOUS ASSUMPTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT FEMA TNEN WILL DISCUSS THE OVERALL REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY FACE AND THEIR VIEWS ABOUT THE PROJECTED DELAYS.
EACH OF US THEN WILL ADDRESS WHAT CAN BE DONE TO REDUCE THESE DELAYS.
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