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CURRICULC4 VITAE Na=e:
Jchn Edward Kello Address:
Depart =ent of Psychology Davidson College Davidson, North Carolina 28036 Born:
Septe=ber 12, 19h6, Norfolk, Virginia Marital Status:
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Married; e childn W Education:
Old Do= inion University, 196h-1968, B. S. in Psychology (1968)
Duke University, 1968-1973, M. A. (1970), Ph.D. (1973),
both in Psychology Honors and Sccieties:
Pour years full-tuition scholastic scholarships to Old De= inion University (196h-1968)
Participant in Undergraduate Honors Program in Psychology at Old Do= inion University (1966-1968)
Me=ter of Delta Phi Omega honorary scholastic fraternity (1967)
Graduated first in class, su==a cu= laude, fro: Old De= inion University (1968)
Four years full-tuition departmental fellowship at Duke University (1968-1972)
Awarded co=petitive Bio =edical Sciences Support Grants from Duke University for sum =er research (1969-1972)
Avsrded postdoctoral fellovship. Center for the Study of Aging and Hu=an Develop =ent, Duke University Medical Center (1973)
Awarded suc=er research grants from Davidson College, 1975-197T Associate Member Sigma Xi (1972)
Member A=erican Association for the Advance =ent of Science (1973)
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Elected to ODK leadership and service society (1977)
Selected as an " Outstanding Young Man" of 1978 by Outstanding Young Men of A= erica (0YM)
E=plov=ent Ex :erience:
Psychology Assistant at Naval Safety Center, Norfolk, Virginia (1967-1968); hu=an factors research Teaching Assistant, Duke University, for courses in statistics, learning, and adaptive behavior (1968, 1970, 1971)
Tutor, Duke University, in junior-senior level tutorial in theoretical approaches to frustration (1971)
Postdoctoral Fellow, Center for the Study of Aging and Human Develo;=ent, Duke University Medical Center (1973-197h)
Visiting Lecturer in Psychology, North Carolina Central University (1973 and su==er,1974)
Instructor in Psychology, Davidson College (197h-1975),
Assistant Professor in Psychology (1975-Present) Tenured May,1979 Th9ses:
The control of respondingon cyclic fixed-interval schedules of reinforcement.
M. A. Thesis, Duke University, 1970 Observation of the behavior of rats running to revard and nenrevard in an alleyvay.
Ph.D. dissertation, Duke University, 1973 Papers:
Kello, J. E.
Free-opertat " frustration effects" reflect in-hibition by reinforce =en;.
Paper presented at Virginia Acade=y of Science, May 973, Williamsburg, Virginia.
(Abstract -in Virginia Journal of_ Science, vol. 2h. )
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The nature of competing behavior in the alleyvay situation. Paper presented at Division 3, American Psychological Association, August 1975, Chicago, Illinois Kello, J. E.
Properties of rats' neophobic response to un-familiar food. Paper presented at Division 6, American Psy-chological Assochtien, Septembar,1976, Washington, D. Cs Kello, J. E.
Taste-aversion learning with shoce UCS?
Paper accepted for presentation at South Easte.n Psychological Association, March, 1979, New Orleans, La.
Publications:
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The reinforce =ent-omission effect on fixed-interval schedules: Frustration or inhibition. Learning-and Motivation, 1972, li 138-147
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Eccentric stimuli on multiple fixed-interval schedules. Journal of_ the Experi= ental Analysis of, Behavior, 1975, 23, 233-240 Kello,. J.
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Control of long-interval perfor=ance on multiple fixed-interval schedules. Bulletin of the Psychonetic Society, 1974, h, 1 h Submittted for_ Review:
Kello, J. E. Te= poral inhibition on fixed-ratio schedules of reinforcement.
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Cerebral Lateralization of visual and verbal short-term memory.
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Tp Freparation:
Kello, J. E.
Properties of rats' neophobic response to unfa=iliar food.
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Introduction to the Psychology of Learning.
Revievs:
Guest reviewer for Journal of Gerontology (1975-Present)
Grant reviewer for National Science Foundation (1976-Present)
Sessions Chaired:
Chaired paper session en Physiological Psychology at South-eastern Psychological Association meeting (1976)
Workshops Attended:
I was selected to participate in an NSF Chautauqua -- T/'pe Short Course in " Biological Bases of Adaptive Behavior and Intelligence" in Menphis, Tenn., Nov. 3 h,1977, and Feb. 27-28, 1978.
I was also selected to participate in the NSF Chautauqua -type short course in " Brain Science and Mechanisms of Consciousness" in Kala =azoo, Mich., Nov. 13-lh, 1978 and March 22-23, 1979 Areas of Research Interest and Experience:
The role of "ccmpeting responses" in the course of learning The distinction between verbal and spatial memory
' Biological constraints on learning; Functional differences between the two cerebral hemispheres Teaching Experience:
I have taught courses in' general psychology, experimental psychology, learning and conditioning (my specialty),
sensation and perception, physiological psychology, and a seminar in learning as an adaptive mechanism.
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Me:ber of Student Conduct Cou icil (1975-1977)
Me:ber of Public Speakers and Major Artist Series Co= ittee (1975-1977)
Me:ber of Review Board (1976-1978)
Fresh =an Advisor (1975-1978)-
Faculty Sponsor of the Davidson College Psychology Club (1975-1978)
Pre-ed Co::ittee Interviewer (1975)
Davidson College Acade ic Scholarship Interviewer (1976)
Screenin6 Interv.ever, N. C. Fellows (1976)
Me:ber of ad hoc Co-lttee to nc=inate "Who's Who" candidctes fro: Davidsc'n College (1977-1979)
Arranged annual :eeting of South Eastern Regional Farapsychological Association at Davidson College, Jan.1976
'Ad inistrative Experience:
I a now serving as Ca: pas Director of the Davidsen College North Carolina Fellcws Progra=, a leadership-development progra: for selected college students.
The progra: seeks to identify students wich exceptional potential for leader-ship in various areas of endeavor, and to foster the develop-cent of that potential through su :er internships, contact with local, co== unity, and national leaders, special se inars and workshops, and close association of individual fellows with other ce:bers of the progra=.
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In particular, I as interested in deter =ining the validity of the criteria by which fellows are selected. Thus, vill follov-up studies indeed shov that our fellows have been "nore successful" than non-fellow graduates?
Are they in fact the " leaders"'in their areas of professional co=petence?
'Inat, in fact, has the program done for its students?
References:
Dr. John D. Kelton, Chair =an, Department of Psychology, Davidson College, Davidson, North Carolina 28036 Dr. J. M. Se an, Vice-President for Academic Affairs, College of Charleston, Charleston, South Carolina 29h01 Dr. R. E. Til', Depart =ent of Psychology, Southern Methodist University, Dallas, Texas 75275 Dr. H. Gutt =an, Depart =ent of Psychology, Duke University, Durham, North Carolina 27706 f
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