ML19343D442
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| Site: | Crane  |
| Issue date: | 06/26/1980 |
| From: | Keimig R NRC OFFICE OF INSPECTION & ENFORCEMENT (IE REGION I) |
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1 BEFORE THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION (7
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2 THREE MILE ISLAND INFORMATION TASK FORCE 3
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Whereupon, 3
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MR. HARPSTER:
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today is to further establish the flow of information during the N
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Dick, what was your position in the Region on March
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I was chief of Reactor Project Section No.
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Are these notes that you have provided us the notes 21 which you had taken on the morning of March 28th, 1979?
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That is correct.
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Q Would you describe to the best of your knowledge 24 '
your recollection of the initial reports from Three Mile Island 25 j to Region 1 on that morning?
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by the branch secretary who told me that there was an emergency i
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17 The notes that I have, and I will read from them, say; 1
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19 secondary leak in a steam generator between three and four a.m.}
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20 Turbine generator trip followed by a rapid cool down of the I
21 primary system, safety injection, lost pressurizer bubble
- 22 failed fuel, lost pressurizer leveli probably bubble in reactor 23 vessel with failed fuel.
24 High radiation in reactor building
- 200 R per hour 25 in the dome with one pound of pressure.
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makeup tank area high radiation.
Less than one kR per hour
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No exposure to personnel.
All contain-3 ment monitors in high alarm.
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generator was steaming.
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Who did you talk to on the phone when you io 10 received the initial reports of the accident?
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Do you remember about how long that was or I
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Approximately eight to ten minutes, at which point 20 we tried to transfer the telephone call to our incident response 21 center in Region I and the transfer was not successful.
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response center, since we had ldst it in the transfer.
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Q Rick, I would like to ask you some questions about
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this list one at a time and I would like you to tell me if
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I do not recall that either.
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Do you recall if you were informed that the time-period 5
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No, I do not recall that.
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Were you informed that the relief valve was still i
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I cannot recall that either.
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Do you recall if the magnitude of the hot leg 23,
temperatures was recorded?
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A I believe there was some mention of loop temperatures 25 l during that call.
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Q But you cannot recall if the magnitude was addressed?
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Yes. W~ere any abnormal or unexpected conditions on the l
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I do not recall that.
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Were you informed of the projected dose rate of l
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What, if anything, did Region I know about the infor-l i
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I really cannot answer that because that would not i
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have been in my area of concern and I do not recall hearing
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anything of the infornation that was given to the state.
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on the phone between 7:50 and 8:30 that morning?
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Rick, do you recall talking with George Kunder in the l
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No, I do not.
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Let me ask you about the inventory, the primary system 18 that morning.
Can you recall what specific questions were asked 5
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No, I cannot.
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Do you recall if any specific information was reported 22 regardless of the questions that were asked, volunteered by the
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licensee with regard to the inventory that morning?
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That is all the questions I have.
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Rick, you indicated that you arrived on the morning 3
of the 28th at about ten or five minutes before eight.
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In other words, because of the emergency, you happened Ej 11 to note your watch or something to that effect?
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No, I thought to myself that would it not just happen
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You indicated you were met by a secretary who informed 2
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Who was that secretary?
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Rathy Fell.
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When you went to Smith's office, you indicated the 18 call was in progress.
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To my recollection it was George Smith, Eldfn Brunner, gn Donald Havehcamp and vaguely I remember Hilbert Crocker.
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Was that information shared with you later?
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the call from Met Ed indicating that there was an emergency 5
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I believe it was Eld %n Brunner.
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Within the next hour after you arrived?
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After the call.
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You said that you arrived at five or ten of I
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You indicated that you originally thought you had talked 24 to an Operations supervisor and you now understand it was an
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I thought Mr. Warren's title was Operations supervisor.
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Who was that inspector asking the questions?
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I believe it was John White.
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