ML19323A219
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| Site: | 07002909 |
| Issue date: | 03/27/1980 |
| From: | Crow W, Gray C, Shum E AFFILIATION NOT ASSIGNED, NRC OFFICE OF NUCLEAR MATERIAL SAFETY & SAFEGUARDS (NMSS) |
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MUCLEAR REGULATORY CO*"'4IS.3 ION This is to certify : hat the attached proceedings before the UNITED STATES NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION in the matter of: LICENSE APPLICATION WESTINGHOUSE ELECTRIC CORPORATION SCOPING HEARING
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MARCH 27, 1980 Docket !!umb er :
Place of ?receeding:
PRATTVILLE, ALABAMA were held as herein appears, and that this is the criginal transcript therecf for the file of the Cc==ission.
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