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Transcript of 800327 EIS Scoping Meeting in Prattville,Al Re Proposed Vendor Fuel Fabrication Plant
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18l The purpose of the meeting is to brief federal, l9 ! state, and local agencies, and other' interested parties.

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10 The agenda for this meeting will be as follows:

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23l Mr. Frank Cellier of Westinghouse Electric.

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We are here tonight to tell you about 4

our proposed nuclear fuel fabrication facility.

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plants are scheduled to come on stre..a within the next ten

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regulatory bodies so that all licensing and environmental 2

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achieved in December, 1979, when an environmental report and 23 "

a license application were filed with the United States Nuclear 24['.

Regulatory Commission for review and approval.

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of construction and operation required by federal, state, lo' cal,

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licensed activity information as applicant identification, 4

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And so ther~e is no way to detect that?

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1UCLEAR REGULATORY CSE4ISSION This is to certify that the attached proceedin5s before the UNITED STATES NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION in the matter of: LICENSE APPLICATION WESTINGHOUSE ELECTRIC CORPORATION SCOPING HEA"ING Date of ?roceecing:

MARCH 27, 1980 Docket !!umb er :

Place of ?roceeding:

PRATTVILLE, ALABAMA Were held as herein appehrs, and that this is the Original transcript thereof for the file cf the Ccccission.

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