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Email to Fred Emerson Requesting Clarification of Points Noted During 2-12-2002 Meeting on NFPA 805 Implementing Guidance
ML020500561
Person / Time
Site: Nuclear Energy Institute
Issue date: 02/19/2002
From: Birmingham J
NRC/NRR/DRIP/RPRP
To: Emerson F
Nuclear Energy Institute
Whitney L
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Fred Emerson, Sr. Proj. Mgr.

Nuclear Energy Institute

Subject:

Issues noted during meeting on NFPA 805 guidance, 2-12-2002

Fred, These are the points that we noted during the meeting. Because there were many complicated "definitions" discussed in the meeting we would ask that you review them and provide comments if needed to clarify the issues discussed. You should send any comments to me with Eric Weiss, Leon Whitney, and Peter Wen on cc. I have attached the points from the meeting in MSWord format for your use.

As always, this email and your response will be placed in the public section of ADAMS for general use.

Joseph Birmingham Project Manager for NEI interactions



The meeting opened with a discussion of whether the NFPA 805 guidance document should contain guidance for licensees which have not adopted NFPA 805 through the rulemaking.



NEI stated that industry would like there to exist a structured regulatory approach for optional, selective performance-based, risk-informed (PB/RI) fire protection related submittals. Further, PB/RI use is viewed by industry as an evolutionary process, although a revolutionary NFPA 805 rulemaking.



The NRC stated that it did not have a conceptual problem with licensees using NFPA 805 methodologies and approaches on an optional, selective basis (assuming the necessary NRC approvals are submitted for and obtained).



The NRC stated that the development of a structured regulatory approach for fire protection submittals (see above) is beyond the scope of the current NFPA 805 rulemaking but that there are existing regulatory mechanisms which do permit licensees to make such applications (e.g. 10 CFR 50.12 or 10 CFR 50.90).



As discussed below, the NRC and NEI agreed that Sections 5.1 and 8 of the current implementation guidance document outline (which provide guidance for optional, selective use of NFPA 805) would continue to be developed by NEI.



The second topic discussed was whether the fundamental fire protection program and design elements of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805 must meet and are subject to inspection against the performance goals, objectives and criteria of Chapter 1 of NFPA 805.

[Although Section 3.1 says that the subject elements are not subject to the performance-based methods permitted elsewhere in the standard, the goals/objectives/criteria question still exists.]



Section 3.1 of NFPA 805 says that, Previously approved alternatives from the fundamental protection program attributes of this chapter by the ADJ. take precedence over the requirements contained herein.



Discussion of this issue resulted in the realization that the definitions of approved and acceptable, if taken together, result in the presumption that any previously approved attributes satisfy the goals, objectives and criteria of Chapter 1.

Considering that Chapter 3 states that its contents provide the minimum design requirements to meet NFPA 805, the conclusion must therefore be drawn that either by meeting Chapter 3 directly, or by providing previously NRC approved alternatives, a direct comparison between Chapter 3 against the goals, objectives and criteria of Chapter 1 is not necessary.



The third topic discussed was that of tacit NRC approval. Four terms were discussed:

Docketed Licensing Basis; Approved Licensing Basis; Tacit NRC Approval; and Potential Tacit NRC Approval.



A staff member voiced the opinion that, if he were a licensee, it is understandable that he could think that uncontested docketed information was approved licensing basis information.



The NRC Office of General Counsel (OGC) representative stated that the act of docketing information is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for information to enter the approved licensing basis. The OGC representative stated that it was his opinion that tacit NRC approval would exist if specific information was required to be submitted on the docket as a prerequisite for a regulatory decision, even if the subsequent NRC approving response did not explicitly discuss or endorse the submitted specific information. Conversely, if information was submitted on the docket, but had not been required to be submitted as a prerequisite for a regulatory decision, then the information would not be tacitly approved (if the staff was silent on that information in its response or there was no response). However, the OGC representative stated that explicit approval of information not required enters that information into the approved licensing basis.



The OGC representative stated that there was also the possible case of potential or arguable tacit approval of docketed information, which may enter the approved licensing basis. For example, if a licensee submits information on the docket to the effect that X is the licensees position on, or interpretation of, a certain issue, and the licensee states that it intends to implement plant design or procedural changes in accordance with X by some date certain, a lack of an NRC response to the docketed information could constitute arguable tacit approval of X. Although the case is somewhat more tenuous than the required to be submitted case discussed above, the licensees claim of approved licensing basis could not be summarily dismissed.



The status of inspection report information being considered to be approved licensing basis information was discussed. It was pointed out by the NRC staff that (although the following fact is not binding with respect to 10 CFR 50.48 or fire protection in general) the 10 CFR 54.3 definition of Current Licensing Basis does not include inspection report information. Industry legal counsel suggested that certain team inspections lead by NRC qualified fire protection engineers which made conclusions

regarding the adequacy of plant configurations and/or procedures with respect to that reactor plants licensing basis should be given standing as approved licensing bases, even though the vehicle for the Agencys expression was an inspection report.



The fourth topic discussed was the standing of approved licensing basis information within NFPA 805. It was noted that within Chapter 3, approved licensing basis information was adequate to establish that fundamental fire protection program and design elements meet the performance goals, objectives and criteria of Chapter 1 of NFPA 805. Upon review of Figure 2-2 of NFPA 805, it was concluded during the meeting that existing plant licensing basis information was an input into the deterministic analysis of Chapter 2. The third and last possible way in which approved licensing basis information could gain standing within NFPA 805 would be to the extent to which any future rulemaking language so specified.



The fifth topic discussed was the extent to which, under the NFPA 805 rulemaking language, licensees would be required to submit technical documentation to the NRC staff as part of an NFPA 805 transition process from Appendix R or NUREG 0800 (Standard Review Plan [SRP]) requirements and/or standard or plant-specific license conditions.



The NRC staff stated that it had just completed its review of public and industry comments on draft NFPA 805 rule language (comments closing date February 3, 2002).

Further, the NRR, Plant Systems Branch had subsequently developed revised draft rule language (intended in draft to be initial proposed rule language) which addressed the question of the extent of required submittal of technical documentation. The salient portions of the revised draft rule language, read out to the meeting attendees and summarized below, were:



A transitioning licensee, for each reactor plant fire area which is in compliance with its current fire protection licensing basis (Appendix R or NUREG 0800 requirements and/or standard or plant-specific license conditions) would not be required to conduct the deterministic or performance-based analyses of Chapter 2 of NFPA 805, but;



A transitioning licensee, for each reactor plant fire area which is not in compliance with the current fire protection licensing basis (e.g., a long-term compensatory measure may be in effect to mitigate a noncompliance and reestablish adequate safety), would be required to complete all of the analyses of Chapter 2 of NFPA 805 and establish a fire protection configuration and fire protection procedures in compliance with NFPA 805 in each such fire area.



Commencing on the date of initial compliance with the NFPA 805 regulation in a specific fire area, a licensee would be required to conduct and implement the applicable analyses of Chapter 2 of NFPA 805 whenever a change to the reactor plant fire protection configuration and/or fire protection procedures is being made in a fire area.



During and after the transition process, a licensee may declare one or



more specific fire areas as NFPA 805 regulation compliant for inspection and enforcement purposes. Such declarations shall be in writing and readily available for review on the reactor site. Such declared fire areas will, at the time of the declaration, cease to

be subject to inspection and enforcement against the licensees previous fire protection licensing basis.



Subsequently, significant discussion resulted on issues related to and surrounding the issue of the extent of required submitted technical documentation:



The NRC staff noted that the revised draft rule language would have the effect of bringing forward or grandfathering existing compliant Appendix R/SRP configurations and procedures as the initial fire protection configuration under the NFPA 805 rulemaking. The safety rationale for this seeming inconsistency (new NFPA 805 regulatory/licensing basis, old Appendix R or Standard Review Plan fire protection configuration and procedures) was stated by the staff to be that the grandfathered fire protection configuration and procedures are today providing adequate fire protection safety and a change in the reactor plants fire protection regulatory/licensing basis would not change that condition in any way. Further, under the revised draft rule language above, once a licensee embarked on a fire protection configuration or procedural change in a given fire area, the full analyses required by NFPA 805 would be required.



The NRC staff stated that under the revised draft rule language, it seemed that little or no technical documentation would be required to be submitted by a transitioning licensee, either before or after the date of full compliance with NFPA 805.

Industry representatives stated that, nevertheless, as a result of making the business decision to apply for transition to NFPA 805, licensees would likely have to analyze a significant portion (if not all) of their plants against NFPA 805 to gauge continuing costs over plant life. The NRC representatives agreed, but that would be an economic choice, not a regulatory requirement.



One industry representative pointed out that the revised draft language, as written (because it called for, in most cases, no up-front NFPA 805 Chapter 2 deterministic nor performance-based analysis against the requirements of NFPA 805),

could, through administrative oversight, result in licensees erroneously not entering the NFPA 805 analysis at all, and therefore not addressing their nonoperating reactor modes (discussed in terms of fuel safety and stability in Section 1.3.1 [Nuclear Safety Goal] of NFPA 805). It was noted that 10 CFR 50.48 and Appendix R are silent on fire protection and post-fire safe shutdown requirements for these modes. The NRC representatives stated they would reconsider and possibly change the revised draft rule language in light of this comment.



It was noted during the discussion that the revised draft rule language above did not alleviate licensee responsibility to conduct the full reviews inherent in establishing the fundamental fire protection program and design elements of Chapter 3 of NFPA 805.



A question was raised regarding the approach which NRC inspectors might take when reviewing fire protection configurations in NFPA 805 regulation compliant fire areas. For example, after a fire area was declared by a licensee to be NFPA regulation compliant (or after the expiration of the overall NFPA 805 transition period requested by the licensee), should an inspector expect the licensee to possess analyses which showed that each fire area is fully compliant with NFPA 805? The NRC

staff stated that, based on the revised draft rule language, if no transition or post-transition fire protection configuration or procedure changes had been made within the subject fire area, no such analyses would need to have been developed or provided to an inspector. Conversely, any such changes would have triggered such analyses (see revised draft rule language above), and they could be expected to be in existence and readily available.



An NRC staff person voiced the opinion that NFPA 805 was intended to be implemented as a whole and not as a change process. This would require licensees to do an analyses of the plant prior to implementing NFPA 805 to determine compliance with the standard. The methodology in Chapter 2 of the standard describes the type of analyses. In its January 20, 2002, draft rulemaking language, the staff had proposed a transition period for plant configurations that did not meet the analyses initially. Also, certain administrative programs described in the standard would need to be implemented.



The sixth topic discussed was whether a license amendment may be necessary as part of the transition process to permit a licensee to revise or remove existing fire protection -

related license conditions. The NRC OGC representative stated that such a license amendment would almost certainly be needed (although it was pointed out that the NRC could write the NFPA 805 rule as an empowering rule which would supersede the need for such license amendment applications on the part of licensees while providing for blanket removal of archaic license conditions). It was pointed out that in either case, the removal mechanism would also need to apply to changes to any remaining fire protection-related technical specifications or orders applicable to the subject reactor facility.



The seventh topic discussed was whether the rule language should endorse the methodological NFPA 805 appendices (B, C, D and E) as acceptable methods for conducting the following: nuclear safety (post-fire safe shutdown/circuit) analysis (Appendix B), fire modeling (Appendix C), fire probabilistic safety assessments (PSAs, Appendix D), plant damage/business interruption. Appendix E addresses economic issues of fire protection that are not in the NRCs charter in the Energy Reorganization Act of 1974. Therefore, it should not be endorsed.



The NRC staff stated that the appropriate place to endorse methodologies for conducting NFPA 805 methodologies would be in a Regulatory Guide which endorsed an implementation guide for the NFPA 805 rulemaking (currently being developed by NEI. The NRCs intent to explicitly not endorse Appendices B, C, and D within the proposed rule language should not be taken as an indication that staff believes it can not, nor should not, endorse their methodologies in the future (via the planned NFPA 805 Regulatory Guide).



NEI stated that, within the implementation guidance, it would be developing a path for implementation which may pass through Appendices B, C or D.



The NRC staff stated that if there was reference to use of Appendices B, C or D in the NEI implementation guidance, then the staff would expect NEI and/or industry to provide technical justification for the use of the methodologies in those appendices within NFPA 805, just as would be required for any other request for plant-specific or

generic use of other non-NFPA 805 appendix methodologies, as envisioned within the 805 standard (in wording such as endorsed by the ADJ.).



At the conclusion of the meeting, NEI stated that, in the near-term, it would reconsider its implementation guidance document development schedule to ensure that possible changes to the proposed draft rule language over the next 6 to 9 months do not result in wasted NEI and industry implementation guidance development efforts. NEI stated that this might be accomplished by focusing more heavily during spring and summer 2002, on development of guidance for licensees which choose not to adopt NFPA 805.



Also at the end of the meeting, the NRC staff stated that it would attempt to achieve transparency of the NFPA 805 rulemaking process so that NEI and industry could develop the implementation guidance document with an up to date understanding of the proposed rule language. The NRC staff stated that this might be accomplished through periodic or event-based postings of the current proposed rule language on the NRC web site (probably on the NRCs public Rulemaking Forum).