ML23195A114

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July 6 2023 Public Meeting-MODSIM Meeting Summary
ML23195A114
Person / Time
Issue date: 08/16/2023
From: Al Tardiff
NRC/NSIR/DPCP/MSB
To: Gregory Bowman
Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response
References
20236765/ML23157A123
Download: ML23195A114 (5)


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MEMORANDUM TO:

Gregory Bowman, Director Division of Physical and Cyber Security Policy Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response FROM:

Albert N. Tardiff, Jr.

Sr. Security Specialist Materials Security Branch Division of Physical and Cyber Security Policy Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response

SUBJECT:

SUMMARY

OF JULY 6, 2023, PUBLIC MEETING BETWEEN THE U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION, NUCLEAR ENERGY INSTITUTE, AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED NRC GUIDANCE REGARDING THE USE OF MODELING AND SIMULATION TOOLS FOR SECURITY PLAN CHANGES On July 6, 2023, staff of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRCs) Office of Nuclear Security and Incident Response held a virtual public meeting on the agencys development of guidance regarding the use of modeling and simulation (MODSIM) tools for security plan changes. The meeting was attended by over 50 people, and there was outstanding back-and-forth dialogue between participants.

The NRC staff presented an overview of the MODSIM guidance development (ML23178A071),

and this was followed by a presentation provided by the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) staff on industrys current and planned uses of MODSIM technologies (ML23181A060). The subsequent discussions focused primarily on advanced reactors and how those potential applicants could use MODSIM tools, given their lack of a defined reactor site footprint at present. Other areas of focus in the discussion included the agencys timeline for the MODSIM Regulatory Guide/NUREG development and whether there will be an opportunity for public comment/public meetings. The NRC staff confirmed its intent to solicit public comment both from the Federal Register Notice as well as through one or more public meetings. In addition, there were questions about the practical aspects of the proposed guidance (e.g., how baseline scenarios are defined, how the physical protection system probability of system effectiveness (PE) is calculated, how MODSIM tools are accredited).

CONTACT: Albert Tardiff, NSIR/DCPC 301-287-3613 August 16, 2023 Signed by Tardiff, Albert on 08/16/23

G. Bowman 2

The meeting was adjourned after all questions posed by those in attendance had been dispositioned by the NRC staff.

Enclosures

1. Meeting Attendees
2. Meeting Agenda Meeting Attendees Webinar:

SUMMARY

OF JULY 6, 2023, PUBLIC MEETING BETWEEN THE U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION (NRC), NUCLEAR ENERGY INSTITUTE (NEI), AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED NRC GUIDANCE REGARDING THE USE OF MODELING AND SIMULATION (MODSIM) TOOLS FOR SECURITY PLAN CHANGES NRC Public Leah Smith Barry Westreich Stacy Prasad Todd Kauffman Desiree Davis Andrew Brady Lou Cubellis AJ Clore Cliff Roundtree Billy Brown Albert Tardiff Christopher Chwasz Stanley Gardocki Matthew Ford Francis Peduzzi Jim Andersen Ismael Garcia David Mendoza Michael Mcnally Shane Blanchard David Berkenpas Jonathan Corwin Daniel Watts Timothy Stopher Melissa Darlington Jason Krumenaker D. Axt Bernard Kaufhold Gregory Hill Jonathan Bearup Kevin Deyette Christopher Chwasz Bill Gross William Baker Gerald Durham Jr Matthew Talbot Joshua Schimandle Michael Whitlock Orlando Hernandez Andrew Brady Meeting Agenda Webinar:

SUMMARY

OF JULY 6, 2023, PUBLIC MEETING BETWEEN THE U.S. NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION (NRC), NUCLEAR ENERGY INSTITUTE (NEI), AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED NRC GUIDANCE REGARDING THE USE OF MODELING AND SIMULATION (MODSIM) TOOLS FOR SECURITY PLAN CHANGES Time Topic Speaker 1:00 PM Introductions/Opening Remarks NRC Presentation NEI Presentation Questions / Comments Wrap Up NRC NRC NEI All NRC

ML23195A114 OFFICE NSIR/DPCP/MSB DPCP/MSB NSIR/DPCP/MSB NAME ATardiff LSmith ATardiff DATE Jul 15, 2023 Jul 17, 2023 Aug 16, 2023