ML20247G468

From kanterella
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Intervenor Exhibit I-MAG-58,consisting of Partial Transcript Discussing Effectiveness of Compensatory Measures in Event of Emergency at Plant
ML20247G468
Person / Time
Site: Seabrook  
Issue date: 04/06/1989
From:
AFFILIATION NOT ASSIGNED
To:
References
OL-I-MAG-058, OL-I-MAG-58, NUDOCS 8905300409
Download: ML20247G468 (5)


Text

- _ _ _

~

.i i

...___ s. -.. _ _

_gg,,,g pv M OCKETED k

6c-ifyd}lify'f-OD d

V/6/rf 89 liAY 23 P3:05 1

=t-i

, [

1 Q.-

Taking c o m p e n s a t i ng/.'!..

measures.

For Y, l n :..

' ok f..

2 example, think about this q u e s't i:o n in'the context vu r

r 3

of schools, the utility'has taken compensatory y

'4 measures.

you have reviewed them.

-In fact, we 5

can stipulate'it's not clear there are any

~

6 a d d i t. l o s a l compensatory measura' that coul* be 7

taken.

They have done all they can do in the way 8

of compensatory measures.

There seems to be no 9

other solution.

The schools are refusing to 10 participate.

11 I'm asking the question, is it an L12 intellectual possibility that your judgment as a 13 planner could be there still is not an adequate i

14 level of preparedness?

15 MR. FLyNN:

More information, is 16 part of your premise this is a planning question 17 or exercise question?

18 (Discussion off the record.)

. ;t 19 Q.

Nr. Donovan, we just had a fairly lengthy 34 w

20 dff the record discussion and I want to put one 21 question to you and it might still need to be 22 reformed and revised a little bit but, in effect, 23 to try to summarize the discussion we had, in r-24 reviewing a utility plan and in reviewing.the L_

COPLEY GOURT REPORTING f

8905300407 890406 1

PDR ADOCK 05000443 l

g PDR j

c s',

e nr e

+ woA SA 5_6 CL_b_M.

Q N

0 b

15

' o. n t __

S I

N c_ E M

_ 9 h

D D M

xE e?

?

E E O

s C

di c 7l C i

=

T

?

E e R

f t,

Y ic N

E a

T C

J E E E A

il f

0 E

D i O

O t 1

i 1

T e

- _ __ __ G.

A s_

L U

.L L

'M., Q_.

E O-Oc

/

g G

3H s M R

l R M4 a A

e r.

E L0Or e. /

o h,

C 3S r

U e

r

.t f

r R

o t

t f

tc s

a t

c o

r O

N m n n a e g a r

i t

ic r

't v

r r

e e f

lp e

n h k h fa p

t n

t e

mi c

t o o ;

e e

t n

a CC 0 R D

S A i

l f

I

g=

~-

_ _ w._ : '

.'.C

_..._ -l._ ~ : L__.-______-__-.-_-

yy crr ^

W 98' gj - %

6 o

1 compensatory measures 1taken by the[ut111'ty

~

to 9-k 2

compensate"for the nonparticipating governments, r.

making'a judgment on the effectiveness of.

t 3

are.you 4

Ithe. compensatory measures in the event of an 5-actual' emergency?

6 A.

M *Jnt a ludgmentLon the corp nsatory g

7 measures against the criteria and the criteria is:

o 8

designedLto address a spectrum of emergencies..

9 MR. FLYNN:

Let me-suggest s.omething 10

'here.

InJone. sense, you are asking a legal 11 question and I's not bringing that up as an

12 objection but by way of.an offer to^ stipulate.

13 MR. TRAFICONTE:

That's what-I would

.g F

14 love to-do.

'We've been around this bush'so many

'15 t i m e s '-

I think it's my own lack of art to be able 16 to nail this down.

17 MR. FLYNN.:

The other point I would 18 like to make is the sense of your' question is 1

wpether.11 is 19 part of FEMA's evaluation to judge 20 Shether some threshold of safety is accomplished 4

1 21 by the plans.

That's not the best way to phrase 1

22 it, perhaps, but you are asking the question from-(

E 23 the point of view of whether the plans are 24 evaluated to judge if there is some quantitative COPLEY COURT REPORTING

.g '

99 w;

1 measure, perhaps, of the. level of safety achieved 2

by the plans or if not a quantitat-Ive measure,

'3 then some subjective estimate of-the efficacy of 4

the plan in achieving a level of safety and my 5

offer to stipulate is that FEMA does not consider e

that to be part of i t s ' r e v i e..s p r o c a r-or pc.r*

c r 7

the judgment expressed as a result of the. review

'8 process.

9 MR. TRAFICONTE:

Would you enter 10 into a stipulation in that regard both to FEMA's 11 review process on the plan and the exercise in the 12 Seabrook instance?

i i

13 MR. FLYNN:

Yes.

l 14 MR. TRAFICONTE:

Can we enter into 15 that stipulation, as far as you are concerned, on 16 this record? //

17 MR. FLYNN:

I'm certainly happy to 18 do that.

The only condition that I would attach 19 is tha[ after the FEMA officials in Washington 20 kave reviewed the record, if they take exception, 21 I would' communicate that to you and the other 22 parties in this case.

l 23 MR. TRAFICONTE:

Fine.

But as the

i 24 record stands now, subject to check, FEMA would L-COPLEY COURT REPORTING 1

E_________1

I

~

e I

i.

'100

{

1

~

1 1

stipulate to.the characterization of its review 2

thatiyou just'gave.us?

l E

3 MR.~FLYNN:

Yes.

i 4

(Discussion off the record'.)

k s

5

Q.

One last question on schools and our

.6 contention number 10, Mr. Donovan.

Would you turn-7 to page 1 7 3.-

You should learn by now, every time r

8 I say one last question, just completely disregard 9

that because I realize it's not the last 10 question.

.11 MR. FLYNN:

We'll stipulate to that, 12 John.

13 MR. TRAFICONTE:

All right.

14 Q.

Just to get something out of the way.

You 15 see on page 172-173 there is the narrative summary 16 for objective 19 as to New Hampshire.

Do you see 17 that?

18 A.

Yes.

19 N

'T'he bottom of 172, in the first or second

'~

20

.,g'ieragyaph there is a description of early 21 dismissal decision for the school children.

Do 22 you see that?

23 A.

Yes.

24 Q.

I had misread that, I think, in preparing COPLEY COURT REPORTING

_ _ - - _ - _ _ - -.