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h 1 ' UNITED STATES OF' AMERICA .2 NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION 3 i 4 DISCUSSION /POSSIBLE VOTE ON FULL-POWER OPERATING LICENSE FOR VOGTLE, UNIT 2' 5 6 PUBLIC MEETING 7 8 NUCLEAR RECULATORY COMMISSION ONE WHITE FLINT NORTH 9 'ROCKVILLE, MARYLAND 10 THURSDAY, MARCH'30, 1989 11 12 The Commission met in open session, pursuant 13 to notice,.at 2:00 p.m., Lando W. Zech, Jr., Chairman 14 Presiding. 15 16 COMMISSIONER'1'.3 PRESENT: 17 Lando W. Zech, Jr., Chairman of the Commission Thomas M. Roberts, Member.of the Commission 18 Kenneth M. Carr, Member of the Commission i Kenneth C. Rogers, Member of the Commission i l 19 James R. Curtiss, Member of the Commission 20 L 1 21 22 23 24 .L 25 NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RNODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. ,,_ _ m

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9 STAFF' SEATED AT THE COMMISSION TABLE:

SAMUEL J. CHILK,' Secretary . s. \\ WILLIAM C. PARLER, General Counsel ROBERT W. SCHERER, CEO and Chairman of the Board Georgia: Power Company A. WILLIAM DAHLBERG, President Georgia Power Company PAUL D. RICE, Executive Vice President Georgia Power Company R. PATRICK !?cDONALD, Executive-Vice President Nuclear Operations, Georgia Power Company GEORGE BOCKHOLD, Plant Manager Vogtle Plant, Georgia Power Company C. KEN McCOY, Vice President for Nuclear Generation Vogtle Plant, Georgia Power Company MR. SNEZICK, Deputy Director, NRR l f -'. JOHN HOPKINS, NRR Project Manager l MEL ERNST, Deputy Regional Administrator, Region II JOHN ROGEY, Senior Resident Inspector DAVE MATTHEWS, Project Director, NRC MR. TAYLOR I NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRittR$ 1323 RNoDE 15 LAND AVENU(, N.W. i

l s: [' DISCLA'IMER y This is an unofficial transcript of a meeting of the United States Nuclear Regulatory ' Commission held on March 30, 1989, in the Commission's office at One White Flint North, Rockville, Maryland. The meeting was open to public attendance and observation. This transcript i has not been reviewed, corrected or edited, and 'it may contain inaccuracies. g-. The transcript is intended solely for general informational purposes. As provided by 10 CFR 9.103, it is not part of the formal or informal record of decision of the matters discussed. Expressions of opinion in this transcript do not necessarily reflect final determination or beliefs. No pleading or other paper may be filed with the Commission in any proceeding as the result of, or addressed to, any statement or argument contained herein, except as the Commission may authorize. NEAL R. GROSS l COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRMERS 1323 RHopf ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 23N WASHING 1oN, D.C. 2v005 (202) 232 4 600 l \\

3 1 P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S l 2 2:00 p.m. , s 1 l 1 3 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Good afternoon, ladies and 4 gentlemen. Commissioner Roberts will be joining us 5 shortly. l 6 The purpose of today's meeting is for 7 Georgia Power Company and the NRC staff to brief the 8 Commission concerning the readiness of Vogtle Unit 2 9 to receive a full power license. 10 At the conclusion of the meeting, the 11 Commission may rote to authorize the Director of NRR, 12 after making the appropriate findings, to issue a full 13 power operating license for Vogtle Unit 2. '14 C om:.i s s ion will first be briefed by 15 Georgia Power Company and then by the NRC staff. 16 Copies of the slides, I understand, are available at 17 the briefing room entrance. 18 Do any of my fellow Commissioners have any 19 opening comments before we begin this afternoon? 20 First of all, I'd like to welcome the 21 representatives from Georgia Power Company here. 22 Mr. Scherer, are you going to begin? 23 MR. SCHERER: Yes. 24 CHAIRMAN ZECH: You may proceed, sir. 25 MR. SCHERER: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RNoDE 15 LAND AVENUf, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

l j[ ~4 ) 1-Mr.. Chairman, Commissioners Carr, Rogers and i 2 Commissioner Roberts is not here~, and Commissioner j t, 3 Curtiss, it is my pleasure to be here. I am Bob l 4 Scherer and I'm Chairman of the Georgia Power Company. 5 I am proud to be here today to participate in the full 6 power license hearings for Unit 2 of Plant Vogtle. 7 This is a very significant day for me. It 8 was in March of 1987 when I last had the pleasure of 9 coming before this Commission to request a full power 10 license _for Vogtle Unit 1. 11 I began my career with Georgia Power in July 12 of 1946 and I have been associated with the company.'s 13 nuclear programs for 20 years, beginning with our 14 first nuclear facility, Plant Hatch. During that' 15 time, we have completed four nuclear units with three 16 licensed for operation and have more than 13 years of 17 operating experience. 18 I am particularly proud of the performance 19 of Unit 1 of Vogtle which has had increasing 20 reliability over the past year. Our commitment to 21 safety is as clear as our commitment to operating 22 excellence. We will always strive to put safety 23

first, to respond to concerns before they become 24 problems, and to set high goals to find safer, more 25 efficient methods for performing tasks.

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.x .5' j l' I. personally am convinced that. Plant-Vogtle ,f'. 2 has'been designed and. built and will be, operated in U (c' 3 the-future in a manner that'will demonstrate that it t 1 4 . was indeed an extremely -- and is indeed an extremely 5 valuable energy resource for the people of the State 6 of Georgia. 7 For several years'I have scheduled my 8 personal retirement date to coincide with' the 9 licensing of Unit 2, which I wanted to'see through to 10 successful completion. I will leave the management. 11 'and operation of Plant Vogtle tc Bill ' Dahlberg, our .j 12 present President and Chief Executive 'Of ficer,.and -13 others on our Nuclear Management team who I am sure 14 will do an exemplary job. . 15 Let me now introduce to you Bill Dahlberg, 16 our President and Chief Executive Officer. '17 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much, Mr. 18 Scherer. 19 MR. DAHLBERG: Mr. Chairman and members of 20 the Commission, we appreciate the opportunity to come 21 before you today, to give us an opportunity to give 22 you a present status on Vogtle Unit 2. 23 I guess I should take just a minute too to 24 thank Bob Scherer personally for the leadership that l 25 he's provided~our company and provided to the Vogtle NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRISfR$ 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. l (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 _.t:a__ _ 2_ _____o___.______..__.

6-1 Project during the. entirety of that project. He has -2 . set very high standards for our company and also very 3 high standards for nuclear operations and we 4 appreciate his wisdom, guidance and leadership during 5 his career with our company. 6 I also should take just a minute to mention, 7 of course, that this plant is jointly owned. There 8 are four owners of the plant. The plant is owned 9 jointly by Georgia Power Company, the Municipal 10 Electric Authority of Georgia, the City of Dalton and 11 Oglethorpe Power Corporation. We have several members '12 from two of.those organizations today. 13 From the Municipal Electric Authority of 14

Georgia, John Schleck, who is Vice President of 15 Engineering, is in the audience.

16 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Welcome. 17 MR. DAHLBERG: As well as L. Clifford Adams, 18 General Counsel for the Municipal Electric Authority 19 of Georgia. 20 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Welcome. 21 MR. DAHLBERG: From Oglethorpe Power 22 Corporation is Stephen R. McGee. 23 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Wel:ome. l 24 MR. DAHLBERG: Steve is the Program Director 25 of Regulatory and Project Services with Oglethorpe. NEAl. R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUf N.W. -_2-__________

7 f [ 'l i Let me also introduce the~ other members of a ~2 our team here at--the table. To my left is Paul' Rice. 7. ' h 3 Paul is Vice President and Project-Director f or- 4 Georgia Power Company at the Vogtle Project. In 5; addition to Paul, we,have Pat Mcdonald, to my right. 6 Pat is Executive Vice President of Georgia Power. [ 7 Company for Nuclear Operations. To his right is 8' George Bockhold, who is the Plant; Manager at Plant 9 Vogtle. To his right is Ken McCoy, who is -Vice. l 10 President of.the Vogtle Project' for Georgia Power 11 ' Company. 12-All of these gentlemen will be making brief 13 presentations to the Commission to give you a current - 7 14 status of'the plant. But before we get into those, . j 15 let me' add just a couple of brief comments on my own 16 on a couple of items. 17 First let me mention emergency planning and 18 community relations. I guess we're fortunate that the 19 operating area in which Plant Vogtle is located is 20 very sparsely populated. In fact, the density in that 21 area in the emergency planning zone I think is the 22 least dense of any plant in the couni.ry. In that ten 23 mile radius there are only 1050 inhabitants of that 24 area. Despite that, that doesn't mean that we don't 25 have a very strong commitment to emergency planning NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRAN5CRiefR5 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVfNUf, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

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and to.the ' community relationship, as strong as any-2 plant'.in.the country.

t 3 Our corporate slogan, in. fact, is to be a-4 citizen wherever we - serve. We take that as a 5 responsibility and that means being a responsible 6, citizen in the community-of. Burk County and a 7- ' responsible citizen of the State of Georgia'and also a 8 responsible citizen even to the State 'of -South 9 Carolina, which is just across the river from Plant 10 Vogtle. 'll When-we began construction back in.*974, we 12 made that strong commitment to the communities'and to 13 the' state to be a good citizen and we think we have 14 upheld that responsibility. Those efforts, we think, 15 have paid substantial. dividends for our ' company. 16 We're proud to report that local and state agencies 17-have been full' participants in the emergency planning 18 process and have provided enthusiastic and 19 prof essionally' participated in the emergency drills -20 and exercises at the Vogtle facility. 21 We've had a number of practice drills and' 22 annual exercises at the Vogtle Plant. They have .23 required the cooperation of not one state but two, 24 Georgia and South Carolina. I'm pleased to report 25 that those drills have gone and are going very well NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 1$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600-

9 '-,~ 1 .with the states-and' the local people that are-2- involved. We intend to maintain that strong gl .3 commitment to the community and to the state. Even 4 after we bring this unit commercial, we have ' strong - 5 commitments for communication and cooperation with all 6 .the-locations involved. 7 The second area that I'd like to mention 8 briefly is training. We do have a strong commitment 9 to training at the Vogtle Project. We received our 10' operating license for Vogtle Unit 1 about two years-11 ago, in March of 1987. And now, as we prepare to 12 bring Unit 2 on line, we believe that we have a 13 complement of well trained and competent personnel at ([ 14 the plant. That means - that we do have a strong-15-commitment to their training on an ongoing basis. We 16 had developed formal training programs and we have 17 sought to have those programs accredited through the 18 National Academy of Nuclear Training. I'm pleased to 19 report that all 11 of our training programs have now 20 been accredited. 21 We're proud of those programs because we 22 believe they have had a very positive impact on our 23 operators and personnel at the plant and we intend-to 24 maintain that commitment to training and 25 professionalism of our people. NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE. N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

'i,_ 1 With those brief remarks, I'd like now to h 2 introduce Paul Rice to you. Paul is Vice President-3 and Project Director of the Vogtle Project, as I 4 mentioned. He is responsible for the construction and 5 the testing of Vogtle _init 2. Paul has been the 6 Project Director at Vogtle since January of 1987, and 7 prior to that time he was on the site as Vice 8 President of Engineering on the Vogtle Project. 9 The owners of Vogtle, not just Georgia Power 10 Company, but the other owners of the plant as well, 11 are deeply indebted to Paul and his staff for.the work 12 they've done on Unit 2. That unit is soundly - 5 13 . designed, it.is well built and I think the fact that 'O 14 it's well built is reflected in the latest SALP report 15 that we got, which reflected all is'on that project. 16 We're proud of that and we're proud of Paul and the '17 work that he and his staff have done there. 18 Paul, will you make some brief comments? 19 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you. I 20 You may proceed. 21 MR. RICE: Thank you. Gentlemen, first let 22' me just describe the plant. It's a two unit 23 Westinghouse pressurized water reactor located about 24 34 miles southeast of Augusta, Georgia on the Savannah- ' (- 25-River. It is rated at 1160 megawatts electrical and NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRAN$CRIBERS 1223 RHODE l$ LAND AVENUE. H.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 4 600

h ' 4, 7 ~ ~ ~ ~ - ~ E, ' 11' [: thermal. ~GPC, Georgia 1 Power,.was-the l: 'l. "3411~ megawatts 2 constructor and Bechtel and our sister company, . q. 9 ~ " Southern-Company. Services, have been our 3 4 architect / engineer. -Unit 2.is a follow-on, mirror E 5 image of Unit 1. 6 My job. is almost done at Vogtle. I would I've had the opportunity to. discuss with 7 like to 8 many of; you on more than one occasion,- both with r; 9 visits at-the site and.also in meetings here, of some 10 of our special programs. 'And while we don't have time 11 to go through all those special programs,'I'd like to .12 give you a follow-up report on three of them becausel 13' of the interest and the interaction ' between the NRC '-.h .I 14 and Georgia Power Company on these programs. 15' They are the - Readiness Review L Program, the 16 Quality Concern Program and a short summary of our 17 lessons learned results'. 3. 18 In Readiness Review, you'll recall -was 19 initiated as a result of a report issued in 1984 by 20 the NRC which questioned-the quality.and the assurance 21-of quality in the construction and design of nuclear 22 plants. That was NUREG-1055. As a result of that 23 NUREG-1055, we tried to take a leadership position and 24 ' volunteered to participate in a program called 25 Readiness Review and which really involved three NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 rho 0E ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433

.12 11' ' things. '2' One, to provide an.in-depth self-assessment i

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.of our own performance and activities in terms of the 1 4 commitments and meeting those commitments. 5

Two, to provide a mechanism for the many 6

interactions which occur. between the Nuclear 7 Regulatory Lommission and the utility during ' this 8-process. i 9' And.three, I guess in the bottom 'line we 10 were looking to improve the predictability and 11~ stability of the licensing of the work process. 12 The scope of the program was large. Just to 13 summarize a little bit of how the size of that program. 14 went probably would come home the fact that we pulled 15 together over 5,'000 commitments that involved Vogtle 16 into a -- we zero-based those commitments, put it into 17 a formal database. We reviewed over 50,000 quality 18 assurance documents in the process of going. through 19. that program and expended over 300,000 manhours. of 20 work. 21 And if I might pause here, I would say that 22 that's the direct work that Georgia Power Company put 23 into that program. In addition to that, there was a 24-good deal of effort by the NRC, both in terms of the 25 Headquarters staff and especially the region staff for NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRAH5CRl8ER5 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433

13 1 .which we are grateful because that participation, I' 2 believe, made a good deal of difference in the success 3 of the program.- 4 The program on Unit 2, we continaed it from 5 Unit 1 pilot program into Unit 2 on the basis that we 6 considered that it had a significant payoff in terms 7 of what we learned from that program. The differences 8 were in Unit 2 mainly a reducticn in some of the 9 modules that we put together because the work that was 10 associated with Unit 1 covered Unit 2 because of its 11 progress in construction at the time. 12 We added features into the Unit 2 program to 13 take advantage of lessons learned that came from the 14 NRC reviews and cur own reviews, such as we put the 15 security system into our Readiness Review Program'for 16 Unit 2, and we made some changes to take a graded 17 approach in the way we treated the testing program so 18 that we could look at it more from cradle to grave as 19 opposed to one time. 20 The findings? As you might expect, we had a 21 number of findings. We had more on Unit 1 than we did 22 on Unit 2 because we plowed back in the lessons from 23 that Unit 1 program into Unit 2. They ranged from i 24 very small items-which had no effect on the work or 25 the hardware all the way to major issues which had NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUI, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

14-l' occurred at some other facilities which if not found 2 and corrected early could have significantly impacted i. ~3 our work process or resulted in rework. 4 In that regard, I think that the Readiness 5 Review Program demonstrated itself. My conclusions of 6 the results of Readiness Review was that it provided 7 an early identification of problems which we were able 8 to correct before they became impacting. But it did 9 provide a mechanism for resolving differences of 10 interpretation, of regulatory requirements before it 11 became late in the game and resulted in an impact. It 12 did enhance the predictability and stability of our 13 process. And I guess, in summary, I would think.it 14 may have potential in the future, for future similar 15 construction projects provided it in viewed in terms 16 of a program which could consolidate and streamline 17 and make more effective the many, many quality 18 assurance requirements that we now have built into the 19 program. 20 The second special program I'd like to just 21 briefly cover is Quality Concerns. In 1983, we took a 22 very proactive approach to the problems that we saw 23 happening in the industry that involved soliciting the 24 input from the workers and the work staff at the 25 nuclear facilities, resolving the problems that we NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 - _ _ - _ _ _ = _ - - _ _ _ _ - _

I '.t s' 15 I 1 could glean from that. program, and provide fs 3back to .2 the people who participated. g-1 A 3 I think the basic features were that we 4 decided it had to be a very proactive approach, that 5 the suggestion box approach has a very short half-6 life. In that regard, we took the program and decided 7 that we would do a lot of work that had visibility and 8 management involvement. I guess I could summarize 9 that by saying that during that period of time we 10 oriented over 30,000 people into the Quality Concerns 11 Program. We-had over 3,000 concerns submitted, which 12 again r anged from very minor items which had little or 13 noth'.ng to do with the plant, such as parking lot (-r-. 5 14 conditions, all the way to significant issuer, that we 15 needed to know about and that we needed to go treat, 16 otherwise they could have impacted us later. 17 In this last year, in 1988, we exited over 18 5,000 people in the program. I thfi..t - that from our 19 complete experience we found that it was very accepted 20 by the employees, it was very useful. It gave 21 management a view which you might not otherwise get in 22 terms of trends and the way people are feeling, and it 23 gave employees a way to participate in the program 24 that in many cases they're the closest to the work 25 process. NE M. R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. W ASHINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234-4433

b p t.' 16 b.. 1 That program, by the way, started a t 2 transition into the Unit 1 operations back in April of l 3 1987 and will finish that transition in the next few 1' 4 weeks. George Bockhold will have full charge of the-5 Quality Concerns Program from here on out. '6 The third program I'd like to summarize is 7 Lessons Learned. We knew when we finished Unit 1 that ) 8 we had learned many lessons, that it was a prototype 9 of sorts and that we needed to take advantage of that 10 both in terms of the cost, our schedule and we knew 11 that the things we could do would enhance quality. We 12 solicited very visibly from all levels of the 13 organization, including our contractors, our i 14 management, all the way down to individual 15 technicians, operators, test engineers, their input 16 from what we learned in the Unit 1 experience. 17 The bottom line was that we collected over 18 3200 items and, of note, over 400 of those items were 19 the result of the Unit 1 test program going all the 20 way out through power ascension testing. We took that 21 database of 3200 items. We formalized it, we 22 developed corrective action plans and we put it into a 23 system in which an item could not be removed until 24 action was taken. It was not good enough just to 25 think of an idea, to correct it. NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVENUI, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6600 g

a 3y _ c l' We completed that program by fuel load. I .l I 2' feel' very strongly that it had positive results. It 71; 3 completely changed in many cases our scheduling 1 4-strategies. 'I t t c,ok into account such things as the I 5 security problems that-we had coming out of Unit 1. 6 It made a major contribution in certain technical ) 7 programs such as streamlining the 7914 Reconciliation 8 Program. We did a major snubber reduction program as f i 9 a result of lessons learned. It had a significant 10 impact. l 11 I guess I would summarize my conclusions as 12 to its effect in three ways. One, I think it was a 13 significant contributor to having maintained an on 14 schedule or a little bit ahead of schedule performance 15 over the last two and a half years. It allowed us to 16 reduce the number of staff on that site which made the 17 project more manageable. It resulted in reductions of 18 problems such as deficiencies and reworks, which 19 obviously effect the cost. In the cost arena, it 20 probably was a major contributor in our ability to 21 finish this project probably expending 15 percent less 22 dollars than we had predicted we would spend during 23 this last 30 month period. 24 So, the lessons learned were clearly 25 important and I think set up the right conditions for NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

18 1 our transfer -of this plant to George Bockhold such 2 that it will be a reliable and high. quality plant. .j, \\ 3 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Could I ask a 4 question? 5 MR. RICE: Yes, sir. 6 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: You had th'ree 7 programs. Were they sequential, concurrent? How much 8 overlap was there? It sounds to me like that-some 9 items might appear in both programs. 10 'MR. RICE:

Yes, it is and that's an 11 interesting question in that they were concurrent to a 12-great extent.

For example, there was a good bit of 13 synergism. If you look at the Readiness Review 14

Program, it took more of a programmatic approach 15 toward the commitments and how they were implemented, 16 although we did conduct an evaluation of the hardware I

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Program, which 19 paralleled the Readiness Review, more solicited the 20 input from workers and people's opinions and ideas and 21 thoughts rather t h..n programmatically adjusting 22 procedures.

So, they were complimentary in that 23 regard. 24 And, of course, the Lessons Learned Program 2b really pulled on all those features. It pulled on NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE. N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 l

[ l-19 l l' Readiness Review, it pulled together items that came l i 2 out of the Quality Concern Program. So it really y l 3 enveloped both of the others. I think they are very 4 synergistic. 5 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. l. 6 MR. RICE: Yes, sir. 7 MR. MCDONALD: Gentlemen, looking toward the 8

future, I'd like to give you a status report on 9

operator performance of Plant Vogtle. 10 Until recently, we had not experienced any 11 operational event of major concern caused by operator i 12 error for about a year. During that year, we had 13 continued building and had developed confidence of an 14 upward trend and an overall professional performance 15 among our operators. However, during the past two 16

months, and despite even greater efforts toward 17 further improvement during that period, we have 18 experienced four notable events caused by personnel 19 errors.

20 Three of the four events were each caused by 21 a combination of inadequate adherence to procedural 22

guidance, inadequate attention to detail and 23 inadequate teamwork.

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h 20-1. We have taken actions that we expect will 2 help us to reestablish our upward performance trend. i

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3 Although errors are never welcomed, we have used these 4 are graphic examples of-non-professional performance. ) 5 In particular, we have _ stressed teamwork as a i 6 necessity to avoid the otherwise initiation of many 7

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they cascade into events. 9 Our operators are bright and relatively 10 young. We expect continuing improvement. We are far 11 from reaching a performance level that might be 12 vulnerable to management complacency. 13 In proceeding now with the status report, 14 I'd like to introduce George Bockhold, our General 15 Manager of Plant Vogtle, who will provide an 16 operational status report, describe our complement of 17 on-shift licensed operators and discuss our Reactor 18 Trip Reduction Program. 19 George started his career as a nuclear 20 submarine officer. He then served as a licensed shift 21 supervisor at Indian Point, followed by duties as the 22 Indian Point training manager. From there he joined l 23 the Commercial Services firm and served as an officer 24 of that firm providing simulator and nuclear services. 25 He later joined Georgia Power as our nuclear training NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUI, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 t

l-21 1 manager. He has been the on-site operations general 2 ' manager for the Vogtle Plant'for the past' six years, l 3 responsible for start-up, operations, maintenance-and 4 other generation functions on Unit 1 and 2. 5 George Bockhold. 6 MR. BOCKHOLD: Let me first cover the 7 current operational status of Unit 2. Unit 2.is 8 critical and in mode 2. We went critical this past 9 Tuesday, the 28th. We are currently doing physics i i 10 testing which involves temperature coefficient 11 measurements and boron coefficient measurements. It 12 involves rod worth measurements. In fact, that's what 13 we're doing today. We will be doing bank overlap r, ' (i 14 measurements for the rest of today. Tomorrow, we 15 expect to be at three percent power and do our flux 16 map. At the conclusion of our flux map, the plant 17 will be ready for power operation in excess of five I 18 percent power. 19 on shift, we have a full complement of 20 licensed operators. I'd like to quickly go over their 21 experience at this time. We have 20 senior licensed 22 operators on shift today. Seventeen have degrees, 23 three have been previously RO licensed. We have 26 24 licensed reactor operators on shift, three with {.- 25 degrees. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVINUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

22 1 I'd like to talk about our Lessons Learned 2 Program associated with reactor trip reduction. We g t 3 use an extensive and comprehensive critique and root 4 cause program associated with reactor trips. We 5 thoroughly investigate all reactor trips. We believe 6 we have an improving trend. In 1987, we were unhappy 7 with 25 automatic reactor trips. In '88 we had 8 brought that number down to six and so far this year 9 we do not have any unplanned automatic reactor trips. 10 Since February of 1988, we've had no personnel error 11 reactor trip. 12 The three areas that we attribute the 13 reduction to are, first, steam generator, water level 14 control during a difficult transition from four 15 percent power to 25 percent power. By accurately 16 tuning the automatic controls, the controls associated 17 with steam dump, bypass feed reg. valve and main feed 18 reg. valve, we have good automatic controls. i 19 Before a start-up, we do special observation 20 of the main and bypass feed reg. valves to make sure 21 they stroke correctly, to make sure those valves do l 22 not have any mechanical, electrical or pneumatic 23 problems. 24 Finally, in a steam generator level control 25 area, our operators have been trained to consistently, NEAL R. GROSS CoVRT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDI ISLAND AVENUf, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

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each time. In '87, we had nine reactor. trips caused 3 f rom this problem. But by the end of the summer of 4 '87, we had implemented these lessons learned and we 5 haven't had a reactor trip from this area since then. 6 Let me talk about personnel reactor. trips. 7 In 1987 we had eight personnel reactor trips. In '88 8 we'had one. We improved procedures, ' training, 9 labeling,- improved field supervision of surveillance 10 and work direction and our people, of course, had more 11 experience. Since February of '88, we haven't had a 12 personnel reactor trip. 13 The final area is equipment trips, which are 14 the remaining trips. We had design and set point 15 changes and, of

course, we replaced defective 16 components.

I believe our reactor trip reduction 17 program has been comprehensive. I expect few reactors 18 trips on Unit 2 and at the same time we're committed 19 to aggressively pursue an improving operations 20 performance program. 21 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. 22 MR. MCDONALD: I'd like to now introduce Mr. 23 Ken McCoy who is our Vice President of Nuclear 24 Generation for the Plant Vogtle. He will discuss our 25 readiness for Unit 2 operations. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6600 f

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- l' Ken ' also ~ started his career in. nuclear ~ 2 submarines, including a tour as an engineering ,lh 3 officer'. He entered commercial nuclear power' and 4 served as a plant manager of Grand Gulf. Before f '5 coming to Georgia, he served at INPO for four. years. 6 In his last position there, he was Director of the 7 Plant Operations Division responsible for running the 8 plant evaluation program. He joined our company. in 9 June'of 1988. 10 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thankyou very much. 11 You may proceed. 12-MR. McCOY: I'd like to address now our 13' readiness to operate our second unit at Vogtle. I'd 14-like to break this into several parts. First I'll -15 talk about our readiness of the operators to operate 16' -two units. 17 All of our operator crews are trained and 18-licensed on both units at Vogtle. All of our 19 operators have hot operating experience on Unit 1. '20 All of our operating crews rotate between units as a 21 standard practice. Our operating crews train together 22 on the simulator. In summary, we.have experienced, 23 well trained operating crews for both units, as well 24 as sufficient licensed personnel for backup and relief { 25 purposes. NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRitfR$ 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

25 j i 1 The second area I'd like to address in terms 2 of readiness is the material condition of Unit 2 for 3 operation. We received a completed plant from 4 construction. By that I mean the plant was turned 5 over in good condition with few punch list items. We 6 are_also well prepared to maintain the material I 7 condition of this plant. Currently there are 8 approximately 250 MWOs, or maintenance work orders, on 9 Unit 2. Since our operating forces took over 10 responsibility for the maintenance of both units in 11 January, we have had a decreasing trend in the amount 12 of outstanding work on both units, both preventive 13 maintenance and corrective maintenance. 14

Finally, I would like to talk about our 15 demonstrated capability to manage and operate two 16 units.

Our first test of this really was the 17 management of the first refueling outage concurrently 18 with hot functional testing last fall. We think that 19 that went quite well, both the hot functional test 20 program which was completed on schedule, and the 21 program test results went well, as well as our first 22 refueling outage which was completed in 52 days and 23 also went quite well with few errors. 24 The second area where this was demonstrated ( 25 was in our ability to meet the milestones in the test HEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVENUE, N.W, (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 ]

26 4 4 1- - program, and at the same time operate Unit 1 with the . c. 2 same group of people. By the same group of people, I-3 mean that we actually had our operations people who 4 were participating in the test ' program ' doing the 5 maintenance and doing the operation of the equipment. 6 Those people have now been folded'into our operating 7 organization. But the management of those people was 8 under George Bockhold throughout this period of the 9 test program. 10 So, we feel that we have demonstrated 11 ability to manage these two units and we look forward 12-to the opportunity to manage both units. 13 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. Thank you very 14 much. 15 MR. DAHLBERG: Ken, thank you. 16 Mr. Chairman and members of the Commission, 17 through these presentations that we've made, we've 18 tried to give you an overview of construction and the 19 start-up activities of the Vogtle Project, and also 20 with the information concerning our current state of 21 operational readiness. 22 The construction and start-up of a nuclear 23 generating facility is a complex business. In the 24 complexity we have encountered problems and we have 25 encountered some obstacles, but we are committed to NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRIBER$ 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6600 (202) 234 4433

l 27 j 4 j 1-the early identification of problems. We are 2 committed to.the ' prompt resolution of problems and ~ g t; 3 we ' re ~also committed to resolutions that prevent 4 reoccurrence. 5 This unit has been properly constructed to 6 what we believe are very high standards. In fact, 7 they're the very highest standards that we.think are 8 . practical to achieve. The unit has been thoroughly 9 tested. It is fully staffed with competent and 10 capable personnel and it is now ready to operate. - 11 The plant is critical. We are prepared to 12 move' forward into power ascension. We're here today 13 to give you this information and to ask the Commission - 14 to approve and grant a full power license for Vogtle 15 Unit 2 so we can proceed. 16 We thank you. 17 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right.. Thank you very . 18 much. 19 Questions from my fellow Commissioners? 20 Commissioner Roberts? 21 Commissioner Carr? 22 COMMISSIONER CARR: Yes, I've got a couple. 23-You're going to start flux mapping tomorrow. 24 When will you finish your low power testing then? 25 MR. BOCKHOLD: We expect to finish tomorrow NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER 5 AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

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1 evening, sir. i. 2' COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay. And you're on .'i. 1* 3' five shifts now. Are you planning to go to six? 4 MR. BOCKHOLD: We're on five shifts now. We 1 l 5 find that as an advantage. Our extra operators can -I-subr*.itute either on-shift if -need be and otherwise o i 7 they can substitute from the staff if somebody is 8 going to be out for a special reason,.the extra 9 operators that we have in staff doing other 10, assignments. 11 The flexibility and the focus of five shifts 12 for the operating crews and the training as a crew and 13 gaining experience together as a crew has certain 14 advantages and right now we think that's the best way 15 for the plant to be. We have enough operators to go 16 to six shifts, but at this point five shifts is best 17 for us. 18 COMMISSIONER CARR: The answer is no, you 19 don't plan to go? 20 MR. BOCKHOLD: The answer is no. 21 COMMISSIONER CARR: And are you on eight 22 hour or 12 hour shifts? .23 MR. BOCKHOLD: The unit shift supervisors 24 and the reactor operators work together as a crew on 25 eight hour shifts. The overall shift manager, we call (. HEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 -_a___________

29' ..o l-1 an operations supstvisor, is en.a 12 hour shift with a 2. -maintenance supervisor to continue to work on 3 improving plant mater'.a1 conditions. I 4 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay. Your nine trips 5 last year compared with the Westinghouse average of 6 2.38 and additionally you had 44 LERs on Unit 1,-which 7 is twice the Westinghouse average of 22. Do you want 8 to comment on that, on how you're -- I notice you said 9 you've got one trip since January, I guess it was. 10 MR. BOCKHOLD: I said one personnel error 11 trip since February of We've been working on 12 trip reduction and LER reduction. Our PERM system, 13 which is plant effluent radiation monitoring system, a 14 state-of-the-art system, as being a first of a kind, 15 has given us a significant number of engineering 16 safety feature actuations and we've been working on 17 improving its reliability and we have made significant 18 progress improving its reliability. We have been 19 working on our trip reduction progrem and I think 20 we've made improvements there. We'll just keep 21 working hard on it. 22 MR. MCDONALD: The PERM system is a highly 23 integrated, automated system that is supposedly art, 24 but like most things it's one of a kind. With only 25 something one of a kind, it takes a longer period of NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRAN5CRIBER5 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

30 t in.e to find all the bugs. So, it has given us a lot ( 2 of false actuations and reportable events. _1 COMMISSIONER CARR: Also, the SALP noticed 4 that you have a persistent fluid system leaks in both 5 primary and secondary systems. Are you getting ahead 6 of those? MR. BOCIWOLD : I think we're making good E progress on our fluid leaks, yes, sir. 9 COMMISSIONER CARR: Any particular thing 20 you've found that should be noted that you had more 11 fluid systen leaks in both systems than would be 12 normally expected? 13 MR. BOCKHOLD: I can't ibute it to 14 anything special. I just think it's continued work on 15 maintenance. We've had like a 30 percent reduction in 16 corrective maintenance work orders since you visited 17 us, Chairman. 18 MR. RIC2: I would make one other comment on 19 that as a part of lessons learned on the leaks. We've 20 factored in during hot functional testing and in 21 subsequent steam plant operations before fuel load, 22 numerous checks and walkdowns to try to reduce the 23 leaks and to reduce the area of leakage, for example. 24 That was a major effort that we put forth to improve f 25 that area.

.c 31 1 MR. BOCKHOLD: It's a continuing effort. 1 i COMMISSIONER CARR: Also, I was a little 3 concerned about in the south area of security, it 4 looked like you got ten security viclations, eight of 5 which were repeat violations. Have you got a handle 6 on that problem yet? 7 MR. BOCKHOLD: I believe that we have a 8 handle on the security area. The hardware has really 9 been improved over the two years of operation and we 10 have recently been recommended to other plants for 11 people to come visit and look at our security system 12 and how it works. It's still a very complex system 13 and we're still going to have a few problems, but I 14 think we've made a significant improvement. 15 COMMISSIONER CARR: Thank you. 16 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Commissioner Rogers? 17 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Your organization is a 18 little special, I think, in that you don't have l 19 individual managers for each of the two plants, but a l 20 single station manager for each and a support manager l 21 for both. Do you know of any other similar situations 22 and what their experience has been that you could spot 23 any problems? 24 MR. MCDONALD: Yes. 25 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: You just cited one of NEAL R. GROSS f COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 l

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.MR. MCDONALD: I know of-one'other company .3-that.has similar: arrangements. l l 4 COMMISSIONER. ROGERS: .Two identical. units 5 with one -- 6 MR. MCDONALD: Yes. 7 C OMMI S S IONE R ' ~R OG ER S : And have.they; 8 experi'enced any particular problems because of that? 9 MR. MCDONALD: No, that's worked out very 10 favorably. 11 MR. McCOY: Pat, I might comment on that for 12 Commissioner Rogers. I had an opportunity while at 13 INPO to. visit a large number of - plants. ' I think of li the multi-unit - plants, the significant r.ajority are 15 organized in that manner with a single plant manager 16 and there are several.that have individual unit 17 managers, but that's the exception rather than the 18 rule. 19 COMMISSIONER CARR: My experience is that 20 you have somebody called a site director. Do you have 21 somebody in each plant that reports directly -- 22 MR. MCDONALD: No. Our arrangement is 23 George is the general manager of the plant. He has 24 reporting to him two people. He has an Assistant 25 General Manager for Operations and an Assistant NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

.t o i n. 34 1. responsible for all the corporate support as ~ well as 2 the plant. ' George reports directly to him. ,i 3 CHAIRMAN.ZECH: Both units he has. 4 MR, MCDONALD: Both units. 5 CHAIRMAN ZECH: ,Yes. All right. 6 MR. MCDONALD: Is that what you want to 7 know? 8 COMMISSIONER CARR: So, you have a guy for 9 each, Vogtle and Hatch. 10 MR. MCDONALD: Yes. 11 COMMISSIONER CARR: But they don't have 12 anybody for the two plants. 13 MR. MCDONALD: TLuy manage those two plants i. 14 as one plant, those two units as one plant. 15 COMMISSIONER CARR: And Ken has Vogtle and 16 Hatch. 17-MR. MCDONALD: No. No, 1:en has reporting to E 18 him three people. He has George reporting to him, he b 19 has a QA manager reporting to him and he has the 1 20 corporate staff support reporting to him. 21 MR. BOCKHOLD: Only for Vogtle. 22 MR. MCDONALD: For Vogtle, for Plant Vogtle. 23 MR. RICE: Then there's a Vice President for 24 Hatch. I l (- 25 MR. MCDONALD: That has a similar l NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRiefR5 i 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N,W. (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

..,~ p. '35 .1 organization. 2 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay. -I understand your 3 organization. I still have my concern, I guess. 4 MR. MCDONALD: May I be responsive to more? 3 COMMISSIONER CARR: Oh, sure. I just say, 6 if'he's got a problem that needs the CEO's attention, I 7 he goes a long way to get there, was my concern. 8' MR. DAHLBERG: I guess I should add 9 something on that matter also. I guess one of the 10 things we have done well is while Pat is an Executive 11 Vice President of Nuclear, it does mean that he is I 12 available to the site. He visits the site. He is 13 there. He talks to the people and he looks at the 14 equipment. We've tried to use that philosophy for all 15 of our operations. It doesn't stop with Pat. I have 16 the same type of a relationship. I guess we could go 17 even further than that. We do have a Board of 18 Directors committee for oversight of nuclear. They 19 even visit the site. So, it's not removed. 20 I think we have established the kind of a 21 relationship and the kind of a personal hands on with 22 management. George has access to anybody he needs 23 access to. I 24 COMMISSIONER CARR: Let me -- are you -- is ( 25 Ken at the site? HEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHfNGToN. 0.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 ______________._____t_____

36 1 MR. McCOY: No, I'm -- 2 COMMISSIONER CARR: You're at the -l l 3 headquarters. 4 MR. MCDONALD: Let me expound on that just a 5 moment. One of our major management techniques is 6 managing problems and we keep pretty comprehensive 7 lists of the top problems, top 10, 20, 30 problems. 8 Those problems are reviewed periodically by all levels 9 of management including the Board of Directors. We i 10 have a completely technical meeting with the Board of 11 Directors describing such things as the PERM problem 12 and any other kind of a technical problem there is, so 13 that the entire management structure is involved in I 14 personnel matters, technical matters and what have you 15 on a routine basir.. All these facts which might 16 otherwise get lost are brought up to the top level of 17 the company. 18 On the Board of Directors committee, which 19 he takes part, we have some very capable people from 20 various walks of life, like almost any board. We have 21 a gentleman who is head of a big construction company 22 and'another -- various types of things. So, I think 25 that we talk technical detail on a routine basis with 24 all levels of management very frequently. t I 2 25 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Commissioner Rogers? NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RNoDE ISLAND AVENUE. H.W. (202) 234 4 433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6600

r. + 33 'l 1 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Well., I was just ( 2 -curious on this management lineup because.when. 'I ' 3 visited you not so long ago, you showed me your-4 organizational chart. 5 Mr. Bockhold, your title is General Manager 6 and ' you had Mr. Bellamy reporting to you. as Plant-7 . Manager.

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.I understand he's resigned. 6 MR. BOcKHOLD: That's correct. Yes, sir. 9 . COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Now, are you wearing 10 two hats at this time? 11 MR. MCDONALD: Let me explain that. We had 12 changed the name of Mr. Bellamy's position to 13 Assistant General Manager for Operations. The term L; 14 " plant manager" was often construed to mean the person i 15 in charge of the plant. Really, the general manager is 16 the man who's in charge of the plant. .It's been 17 confusing. Se, we changed those two titles to 18 Assistant General Manager of Operations and Assistant 19 General Manager of Support, 20 CHAIRMAN ZECH: And the boss at the plant is 21 the plant manager. 22 MR. MCDONALD: He's the general manager of 23 the plant. 24 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. / 25 MR. MCDONALD: That's right. NEAl. R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE 1$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

4 38 .] 1 MR. BOCKHOLD: My name tag 'should say I 2 " general." d 3 COMMISSIONER ROBERTS: I'll-restrain myself lj,. s. 4 from that. i 5 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Well, have you changed 6 responsibilities or just titles?. 7 MR. MCDONALD: Just titles. No change in 8 responsibilities. 9 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: The work' chart still 10 remains the same? l 11 MR. MCDONALD: Yes, that's correct. 12 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Well, now, I still am 13 a little confused because the so-called plant manager .j 'O 14 title which went with Mr. Bellamy now,.what is -- 15 MR. MCDONALD: The new title is Assistant 16 . General Manager for Operations. 17 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: And who holds that 18 title? 19 MR. MCDONALD: That's bei.ng held by Skip. 20 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: I see. All right. 21 MR. BOCKHOLD: Skip Kitchens, who was the 22 operations manager. Jim Schwartzwelder is now the 23 operations manager. 24 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: Do you see that as a 25 significant shift in your organization? NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, W.W. (202) 234 4 433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6600

.c 39 1 'FR. MCDONALD: No, it's just replacing one 2 person. Actually,-the person who is in that job, Skip

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Kitchens, has a current'SRO license where the previous 4 man did not have one. So, I view it as a very sound 5 organization. 6 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Commissioner Curtiss? 7 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Just one question. 8 As I recall, your maintenance program was 9 quite complex and had a lot of paperwork associated 10 with it. Are you comfortable with where you are on 11 maintenance, in particular, preventive maintenance for j i 12 the new plant? Could you say a word or two about j 13 that, please? 14 MR. MCDONALD: Ken, how about you addressing 15 that? 16 MR. McCOY: As we discussed when you visited 17 the site, Commissioner, that was an area we are i 16 focusing on. We have made some improvements in j l l 19 simplifying the maintenance program and we are getting 20 results. At the time you were there, I showed you 21 some charts that showed that we had an increasing 22 trend of work. We've been able to turn that around 23 since January. It's coming down now. 24 So while we're not satisfied with where we ( 25 are in our ability to do maintenance work efficiently l NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

I 40 f 1 and maintain high quality work, we've always had a 1 2 reputation for doing high quality work in maintenance. J (- 1 3 We're trying to increase this and iniprove our through-4 put, and we are making progress. 5 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Okay. And could you q 6 say a word about the stratification problem in the 7 pressurizer surge line, what your plan is? 8 MR. MCDONALD: Yes, Ken? 9 MR. McCOY: All right. I think the 10 Commissioners are all aware that this is a generic PWR 11 type issue. It has been analyzed for both Vogtle 12 units, and both Vogtle units do meet the ASME Code on l 13 the analysis. And that has been reviewed with the NRR 14 staff satisfactorily. 15 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: That's all I have. 16 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you. Well, it's my 17 observation that your operational performance on Unit 18 1 was not real;y as good as you'd lika to have seen 19 it. You've mentioned and are very candid about some 20 of the problems you've had and I appreciate that. I 21 appreciate your self-criticism and your willingness to 22 lay things on the table. That's the way it ought to 23 be. So, that's positive in my judgement. 24 On the other hand, the SCRAM rate on Unit 1, 25 I think, was too high. We all recognize that. And if NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

7_ 41 1 you have learned your lessons from Unit 1, then we 2 would hope that Unit 2 performance would be better. ( 3 I'm sure you hope the same thing. But I would especially during the initial 4 encourage you to 5 testing program that you're undergoing at the moment, 6 and if we authorize full power, that you take a.very '7 conservative careful safety approach to all of your 8 start-up procedures. 9 I do believe your operators certainly would 10 appear to be competent, but they have made some 11 mistakes. If they've learned from those mistakes, we 12 really should see improved performance from Unit 2. 13 I recall being down there not too long ago 14 too, and I made a comment to you about I t'hought you 15 could do a little bit better in some of the 16 cleanliness and housekeeping are.a s. What have you 17 done about that? 18 HR. MCDONALD: We have made some additional 19 effort to that. We will not reach the level we want l 20 to be without a lot of work and over a period of a l 21 year or so. l 1 22 CHAIRMAN ZECH: But are you putting in the 23 resources to improve? It seems to me my observation 24 was that you had a lot of good things going at the 25 Vogtle plants and that perhaps you were not showing NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDI 15 LAND AVINVE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 W ASHINGToN. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 L___________________ _-______v

9 42 1 the results that one might expect with an organization 2 that would appear to be in reasonably good shape. You 3 weren't taking advantage, I didn't think, of the plant '4 you have there which looks to be pretty good. 5 But I-think if you put some resources'into 6 it and devote that little extra attention, perhaps,.to 7 cleanliness and to housekeeping and to making the 8 place look like you think it looks or make it look 9 like you want it to look and like you want to operate, 10 your people will see that as a sign of professionalism 11 and a sign that you're running a first-class 12 organization. It looks like you probably have the 13 makings of a first-class organization, but you've got 14 to take that next step, in my judgement anyway, and 15 put the resources into it to actually feel that you 16 have a first-class organization. You have the { i -17 potential there, arid I just thought you needed to take 18 that next step. Do you want to comment on that? 19 MR. MCDONALD: Yes. All I can say is. Amen. I 20 I agree. I 21 CHAIRMAN ZECn: All right. Well, then we're 22 going to be watching you to see what you do. 23 MR. MCDONALD: Yes, sir. 24 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Okay. You have essentially 25 two plants that are alike. We'd call them NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRAN5CRIBER5 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVfHUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

.a ] ^* 43 7' 1-standardized plants,- essentially. You've mentioned j 2 'some.of the benefits you believe'you've achieved from + 3 . Unit 2~over Unit 1, and I would certainly agree.that 4 we'd hope to'see'the. benefits. .Maybe Mr. Rice could ~ 5 elaborate.just a little bit' more on the construction ~ 6' part of the two units. Maybe not so much the' 7 operation ~yet, but during foe construction part. 8 Could you comanent on ac.y - advantages or 9 benefits in the area particularly of safety,.of 10 reliability of potential operations ' that you've eseen 11 .by. building two plants that are essentially alike? 12 MR. RICE: -Yes, sir. When I mentioned the 13 Lessons Learned Program, that gave us the opportunity-14-to go back and.really formalize what we thought we'd 1 1 15 learned. It wasn't just factoring in mistakes that~ 16 have been made, because we did that as:they occurred.. 17 So it was really much more.of a retrospective look in' 18 a broader sense. .19 Things like the Snubba? Reduction Program. 20 I mentioned the 7914 Program. My guess :is that 21 probably we were able to back off and look at the 22 results from Unit 1, knowing what the design 23 reconciliation was and the margins that were in that ( l l 24 design. And we were able to streamline that process, l 25 probably in the range of $15 million to $20 million. ( i NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUf, N.W. (202) 234 4 433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 l = _ _ - - ____ __

f'. i 64' '1' .Those-resources.and that talent then.can'be appliedLto- -V l2' things'.which are, you know, needed to be done as ! L,.[ 3' opposed to things which ended up with more margin,- ~ 4 say,-than we needed to put in. So there's a resource 5' issue in that second unit in' terms of brain power and-1 6 not just man hours. ~ - ' 4 7 We saw, for. example, the PERM was mentioned 8- ,a minute ago. 'Until we got through that prototype 9 effort, 'particularly with this revision zero system 10 that'we' talked about, we didn't know how it was going I 11 to act. George mentioned the significant effort we. 12 put.in. Part of that -- well, a good. bit of it was 13 learning what was happening in Unit 1. We went into - l'4 the Unit 2 test program. We started out very early in 15 factoring in how are we going to determine.the 16 reliability of those monitors. And by the time we got 17 through with that knowledge, the Unit 2. system sort-of 18 set the standard. 19 I could r,ame a number of examples. Security 20 was another exanple. We really had rocky' times in the 21 security area, with our mentality maybe being one of 22 four or five years ago or six or seven years ago. 23 When that first unit was complete, we knew what to do 24 on the second unit to avoid those kinds of problems, [ 25 many of which, Commissioner, impacted on the personnel NEAL R. GROSS l COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

I 45. i 'l 1-or the. operator actions. .You know, the equipment j W 2' condition and the construction conditions actually - (- 3 impacted on the' operator, or in this case the' security 4 force ability to do their job. 5 So I think that I could probably list many, l 6 many examples where the second unit was simpler. It 7 was more streamlined. I was much more effective when '\\ 8 we got through with it to turn it over to the 9 operating force. Very significant in lessons learned. 10 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. 11

Well, let me just say, Mr. Dahlberg, we 12 congratulate you on your assumption of these important 13 responsibilities.

We would encourage you to continue 14 the active role that Georgia Power Company has played 15 in operational safety and to continue the role of 16 leadership that has been shown by Mr. Scherer across 17 thu board in operating those planta safely. 18 Mr. Scherer, we'd just like to say to you as 19 you are about to leave the CEO job -- I guess you have 20 left that now. You're Chairman of the Board, I l 21 understand. But we congratulate you on your 20 years I l 22 of service to the nuclear industry and for your 23 straightforward approach, your honesty, and your l 24 leadership you've brought to this demanding (I 25 technology. We wish you the best in the future. NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRAN$CRIBER$ 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 E___ _ ______________m____..____

46 4 1 Are there. any other questions from my 2 colleagues before we call on the staff? 3 Commissioner Carr? 4 COMMISSIONER CARR: I can't let them go 5 without' mentioning the fact that you show you've got 6 31 degreed operator SROs out of 44 people, and you've 7 been building a plant and putting one in and running 8 one. How did all those guys go get those degrees? 9 MR. BOCKHOLD: They had their degrees before 10 they started into their SRO training program. 11 COMMISSIONER CARR: Were they ROs? 12 MR. MCDONALD: No. 13 MR. BOCKHOLD: No, sir. l 14 COMMISSIONER CARR: These are direct. inputs? 15 MR. BOCKHOLD: Direct inputs. 16' MR. MCDONALD: Of the 20 SROs we have on 17 shift, 17 have not been ROs. Three of those have been 13 ROs. This is what I meant that we-had a very bright 19 and young group of people who I hope ' the experience 20 level will increase rapidly. 21 COMMISSIONER CARR: Thank you. 22 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you. 23 Just one last comment, then. I do notice, 24 and it was mentioned earlier in your functional areas, 25 that Unit 2 received all 1s. I'm not sure that I've NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. WASHlHGToH. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234 4 433

+ '47 O l' seen; that before, but in any. case I would ~ 1ike to- .2 congratulate all of you ' for that and say that that 3-should,give you something to live up to. When you've-4' 'got those kind of' marks, the only way you can go 5 really is down. But the challenge is to keep it up, 6 and it's not easy to keep up that kind of performance. 7 But I-do think that should be brought out 8 that you have during the construction 'of Unit 2 9 received those very high marks and I think that should 10 be noted. I think that just gives you an additional o 11 challenge to see if you can make your operational 12 experience now live up to that constructional 13 experience that you've shown. 14 I thank you very much. 15 We'll call for the NRC staff to come up. 16 Mr. Taylor, you may proceed. 17 MR. TAYLOR: Good afternoon, sir. l'8 At the outset, I would 1.ike to say that the 19 staff is very windful of the problems in the early 20 operation performance of Vogtle Unit 1 and we intend 21 to pay very careful attention to that. Georgia' 22 Power's corrective actions during the early phases of l' 23 Unit 2 operations to be sure that the lessons are 24 applied, this will be covered a little further by Mr. 25 Ernst in his presentation. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS f 1323 rho 0E 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

48 '4 ; 3 l With that beginning, I'd now-like to turn to 2 Mr. Snezick, the Deputy Director of NRR to commence ml 3 the presentation. 4 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. 5 Mr. Snezick, you may proceed. 6 MR. SNEZICK: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman 7 and Commissioners. 8 We are here today to discuss with the 9 Commission the actions the staff: has taken to arrive 10 at our conclusion that Vogtle Unit 2 has been-11 constructed in accordance with the Commissions 12 regulations and will be operated safely. 13 With me at the table today are: John 14

Hopkins, the Project Manager for Vogtle 2; to the 15' right.of Mr. Taylor is Mel Ernst, the Deputy Regional' 16 Administrator of Region II; to his right is the Senior j

17 Resident Inspector, John Rogey; and to his right is. 18 Dave Matthews, the Project Director for NRC associated 19 with the Vogtle Project. I 20 John Hopkins will brief the Commission on 21 the licensing aspects of Vogtle Unit 2, and Mel Ernst i 22 will brief the Commission on the construction and 23 operation aspects of Unit 2. 24 In starting, I should first mention three 25 matters of interest which have recently come up. NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WA$HfNGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 i

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First, a check valve.at the pressure boundary 2

interface between the reactor coolant system and the .4 3 RHR system was found to be leaking, thus having the 4 potential of allowing high pressure reactor coolant to 5 flow into the low pressure RHR system. 6

Also, as mentioned by Mr. Mcdonald, there 7

have been several personnel errors during the past few 8 weeks that caused us to focus additional attention on 9 the. operational readiness of Unit 2. This was I 10 especially important in light of the relatively rocky 11 start-up history of Vogtle Unit 1. Mel Ernst will 12 include a discussion of these issues in his 13 presentation. I 14 The ' third item of recent interest concerns 15 the status of the atmospheric steam dump valves at 16 Vogtle. As you know, valves by the same vendor 17 malfunctioned at another operating nuclear power 18 plant. Mr. Hopkins will cover this matter in his 19 presentation. 20 As an additional matter related to the 21 licenring of Vogtla 2, I would like to renind the 22 Commission that on March 23rd, in SECY-89-096, the 23 staff informed the Commission of staff actions 24 regarding the anti-trust review of Plant Vogtle and 25 recommended that the Commission permit the Director of NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUI, N.W. (202) 234 4 433 W ASHINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 _ - _ _ = _ _

' 50-l' NRR's Anti-Trust Determination to be considered final u. 2 when the Commission authorizes the Director to issue a 3 full power license. f I 4 With that as an introduction, I would now 5 like to turn the briefing over to Mr. Hopkins. 6 John? 7 MR. HOPKINS: Thank you. j l 8 (Slide) May I have slide 2,.please? 9 This is the outline. And there's one slide' 10 not shown on the outline, and that concerns anti-11 trust. That issue will be covered after recent issues 12 identified and corrected. 13 (Slide) Slide 3, please.

.:o 14 This is a continuation of the outline.

15 (Slide) Slide 4. 16 As previously stated, Vogtle has four co-17 owners. Georgia Power is also the operator of the 18 Hatch Nuclear Plants. 1 19 (Slide) Slide 5. l 20 The information on slide 5 has previously l 21 been covered by the utility. Vogtle Unit 1 is in its 22 second cycle of operation. 23 (Slide) Slide 6. 24 The Vogtle 2 plant design is essentially the 25 same as Unit 1. There are three differences. Unit 2 NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENUE. N.W. (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

t. 51 1 has leak before break analysis applied togit in 2 accordance with a revised GDC-4. Unit 2 spent fuel' .( i 3 racks are also designed by a different vender than 4 those in Unit 1. And third, Unit 1 spent fuel can be 5 stored in the Unit 2 racks, but not vice versa. This 6 was always the utility's plan, and that's what they've 7 requested. 8 (Slide) Next slide, please. i l 9 This shows the same as Unit 1. At this 10

point, I'll discuss Vogtle's atmospheric steam dump 11 valves.

They have been re-looked at due to a recent 12 event. Vogtle's valves are smaller valves and they're 13 hydraulically operated versus pneumatically, which l -w 14 occurred at the other plant. These. valves are 15 acceptable for their intended use, i 16 (Slide) Slide 8. 17 The low power license was issued on February 18 9th and initial criticality occurred on March 28th. 19 (Slide) Siide 9, please. 20 Of the exemptions listed here, the first two 21 are normal. The third is the schedule exemption. 22 This allows Unit 2 to submit, along with Unit 1, a 23 decommissioning fund report. There are no special 24 license conditions as stated. { 25 (Slide) Slide 10, please. NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, H W. (202) 234 4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

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Recently, with regards to potential 2

fraudulent material, we've looked at two issues. For 3 flanges and fittings, there are approximately 760 4 installed pieces in Vogtle Unit 2. All these pieces 5 have been evaluated and found acceptable. Concerning 6 molded case circuit breakers, all their safety-related 7 breakers were purchased as safety-related and are 8 acceptable. Vogtle has never taken commercial grade 9 breakers and upgraded them to safety-related. 10 (Slide) Slide 10-A, please. 11 We conducted an anti-trust evaluation to 12 review information since December 1986, when we 13 completed our previous evaluation prior to Unit 1 f%? 14 licensing. We found that no significant change had 15 occurred. 16 Subsequently, we received a request for 17 reevaluation of our finding. That request raises a 1S ccncern that we are pursuing from a compliance aspect. 19 However, it is not a new competitive concern and does 20 not meet the criteria for a significant change 21 finding, therefore we have affirmed our finding of no 22 significant change. 23 This ends my presentation. If there are no 24 questions, Mel Ernst will continue the presentation. 25 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. Let's NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRIBER5 1323 RHoDE 1$ LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234 4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 L______________._____

s 53 1 p'roce'ed. ~ 2 MR. ERNST: (Slide) Slide 11. 3. On this slide, I listed several o f ' t h'e 4 Licensee's programs. Three of them have been 5 discussed in a fair amount of detail already. The 6 first one, their self-assessment, was an old one back 7 in 1983, but it's on there just to illustrate that 8 they did do a self-assessment using INPO guidelines at 9 that time to look at design,- engineering, 10 construction, and project support management to see 11 what benefits they could get from that assessment. 12 Their Quality Concerns Program, we do think 13 that they have a very active Quality Concerns Program 14 that has been successful. They give confidentiality. 15 The program is inde: pendent from line organization. 16 It's well advertized. They exit with all employees 1Y leaving-the site to see if there's any concerns. They 18 do have a third party audit of the process. So we 19-agree that it looks like e strong program. l 20 Their Lessons Learned Program, we agree with 21 their statements. They had several thousand lessons 22

learned, almost 500 of which had to do with 23 operations.

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4 54 n 1 mode.- But it certainly looks like it was a 2 potentially successful program. (.;; 3 (Slide) Slide 12. 4 The Readiness Review, again they went into 5 substantial detail on this program and I will not 6 repeat that. The Unit 2 Readiness Review Program was 7 a lesser extent than Unit 1 because a fair amount of 8 the structural program had been completed in 1971. We 9 found the program to be useful. We were better able 10 to integrate the program into our regular construction 11 inspection program for Unit 2 than Unit 1, so we think 12 we profited from an efficiency standpoint and we do 13 support that effort. (-? 14 (Slide) Slide 13 -- slide 14. 15 The NRC Inspection Program. We had more 16 than 41,000 hours of inspection for Unit 1, but more 17 than 16,000 inspection hours for Unit 2. In the 18 preoperational testing program, we did the required 19 inspections in that area. We really didn't come up 20 with anything significant from the results. The 21 program went very well. For example, in Unit 1 they 22 had a fair amount of trouble in their SFAS testing and 23 Unit 2 went a lot smoother, largely because of lessons 24 learned in the Unit 1. ( 25 Special inspections, we had a number of NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUI, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

i 55 I different types of special inspections at both units. l 2 We've had six inspections of this nature since Unit 1 3 licensing. These consisted of inspection of their 1 4 Quality Concerns Program, utilization of the NDE van 5 from Region I, Appendix R inspection, what we called 6 an operations performance inspection, procedures 7 inspection and inspection of the new corporate 8 organization as they're transitioning from the old 9 organization to the new one. We went to Birmingham 10 and looked at it. 11 The Operations Performance Inspection, we 12 did take a look at their EOPs and ran some scenarios 13 on the simulator to look at operator performance. 14 We've not had what you'd call an EOP inspection at the 15 present time for Vogtle. 16 Unit 1 operating experience. As it was 17 mentioned, during start up of Unit 1, there were a 18 substantial number of SCRAMS, principally due to 19 balance of plant. But then they also had a number of 20 personnel errors. They did have a large number of 21 corrective actions as they -- 22 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Excuse me. 23 MR. ERNST: Yes. 24 CHAIRMAN ZECH: You're on slide 15, I 25 believe, are you not? NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRAN5CRISER5 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234 4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232 6600

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l f l-l' MR. ERNST: Yes, slide 15. a l- -+ 2 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. Thank you. 3 MR. ERNST: -They did undertake a number of 4 corrective actions which had reduced the number of-5 trips down to nine' in 1988 and one so far in.1989. 6 The corrective actions included better tuning of the 7 balance of plant and steam generator, use of more 8 experienced operators as they got more experienced 9 with plant operations. We did have a special 10 inspection in this area to follow what they were doing 11 and they worked very closely with Westinghouse in 12' trying to arrive at the proper solution, and we had 13 periodic management meetings at the time to get f 14 comfortable with what they were doing. 15 So, while from an operations standpoint they 16 certainly did not perform in the early stages like we 17 would wish, we do think they've learned their lessons. 18 At least odds-wise, they should not have problems of 19 that nature for Unit 2. 20 (Slide) Their other major problem area was 21 security. They did have a total of $200,000 civil 22 penalty in 1987 with security issues. We classified 23 it at that time as a programmatic breakdown. They 24 organized a task force to look at the security matters 25 and made a number of recommendations, including the NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE. N.W. WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 (202) 234 4 433

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57 1 nec'essity to improve the training of their security. 2 officers - they:had a lot of inexperienced' of ficers ' f,j and to try and lock down the security 3 at the time 4 system a lot earlier for Unit 2 than for Unit 1. 5 They did succeed in locking down, I believe 6-it was December kind of time - f rame, to test their 7 guard force. They made some management changes in the 8 security force and we have been watching them very-9 closely with the augmented inspection program. '10 We believe at the present time they're SALP 11 II in security. They have improved and we think that 12 ' improvement should continue. 13 (Slide) There is= a- ' chart, which is 14 viewgraph 17, which shows the trip rate or integrated 15 trips of Vogtle 1 compared' to other plants in the '16 country. At one time during early start-up, Vogtle~1 17 had the worst trip performance cf all the other. plants 18 that -- bigger plants, modern day plants that started 19 up. That's just illustrative of the kind of problem 20 that they had and the one that we think that.they have 21 largely resolved. But they did have a large number of 22 trips, a large number of ESF actions and large number l-23 of LERs, as'has been pointed out. 24 (Slide) Viewgraph 18 speaks to Unit 2 25 readiness. In their fuel loading operation, we looked HEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRIBER$ 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVfHUE, N.W. (202) 234-4453 WASHINGTON, DL 20005 (202) 232-6600 L__________________

58 1 very closely at their performance and really had no-2 problems. The fuel loading was completed a week after u e 3 issuance of their low power license. 4 In pre-critical operations, the story.is a 5' little bit different. As was pointed out, there were 6 four significant personnel errors that occurred in the 7 February / March time frame. Two of these occurred on 8 the same shift. Three of them occurred on midnights 9 and a fourth was at some other time. 10 We do agree with Mr. Mcdonald's statement 11 that basically had inattention to duty and not 12 following. procedures and a lack of teamwork. We did f 13 have some concern about the shift manning and we did 14 meet with them in Atlanta on this subject and asked 15 for details on their shift manning, which they 16 provided to us. 17 It did appear that the one shift that had, 18 on March 19th, at least by the numbers, had less 19 ' experience than the other operating shifts. The'1 20 advised us that they have augmented that particular 21 shift with a reactor operator with more experience. I 22 So, if that was a contributor to the problem, that l 23 should help solve the problem. 24 I can go in some detail on these four ( 25 personnel errors, if the Commission so desires. I NEAT. R. GROSS l court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE 1$ LAND AVINUE, N.'#, l (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

i 59 l 1 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Let's proceed. We can come I 2 back to it if we want to. 3 MR. ERNST: All right. Let's see. Plant 4 status, as was mentioned, did go critical at 1:42 p.m. 5 on the 28th. As a matter of interest, they went 6 almost as predicted, they went to the 1333 parts per 7 million boron, 160 st..sps on the D bank of the control 8 rods and that was awfully close to what was predicted. 9 Their start-up testing in c1=ent complete end in the 10 next 24 hours they'll be finishing their evaluation of 11 their start-up tests. If things go right, I do 12 confirm that they would be essentially ready to go 13 above five percent sometime tomorrow or Saturday 1 14 morning. 15 We have, at this tim 9, no adverse comments 16 on their operations over the past couple of days. It 17 looks like they've not had any personnel errors in 18 that period of time and we do have complete coverage 19 to monitor their activities. 20 We anticipate full coverage from our 21 inspectors, a combination of residents and Atlanta-22 based inspectors, over the weekend as a minimum. And j 23 then based on our observations during that period of 24

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n V 60 I selected. tests and points during their power ascension ! ]( program. 3 (Slide) Viewgraph 19. 4 'W e do have a slide on staffing. The points 5 of interest basically are that their anticipated shif t 6 complement is significantly above the tech. spec. 7 required. Required is 8. Their. actual is 13 for 8 staffing. The STA is normally filled by a degreed SRO 9 at this particular facility. Now, they did have a 10 pass rate on their operators of about 90 percent. 11 (Slide) Viewgraph 20 gives a breakdown of 12 degreed and Unit 1 experience for the SROs and the 13 ROs, considering the total complement of SROs and Ros, .C9 14 not just those on shift. 15 Shift 1 was the one that had the two 16 operator errors and that was the standard midnight 17 shift. 18 (Slide) Viewgraph 21 shows the SALP ratings 19 for Unit 1 which basically shows a SALP II plant. 20 Fairly solid SALP II performer in my judgment, but a 21 ways to go for SALP I. We believe that they do need a 22 little more attention to detail and a little. more 23 emphasis on teamwork. With that combination of people 24 working together, 'they should be able to start L 25 knocking on the door for some improvements to a I. HEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

i 61 [... 1 [ 1 (Slide' Viewgraph 22. 1 2 It was already mentioned-that we rated Unit 'm 3 2 and the construction area to be'a SALP I across the 4 board. Frankly, I didn't believe it and I had to be l l 5 briefed substantially by my staff before I would agree ii 6 with that. They had done outstandingly well in their j 1 7 construction. 8 MR. TAYLOR: This might be the time for me 9 to say that the readiness review concept, some 10 Commissioners may remember, we started at ' Unit l' 11 Vogtle. It took extra effort on Georgia Power's'part, 12 took extra effort on the staff's part. That explains 13 some of those.high inspection hours, because we had to '(S e 14 shift gears on Unit 1. But I think the staff, and I 15 would believe Georgia Power would believe that that 16 was a very successful overview of construction. I 17 think if we construct more units, more nuclear units 18 across the country, the staff will go back to looking 19-at that concept as being applicable in construction, a 20 good way to assure that the appropriate points of 21 construction are deeply looked at and satisfied as we 22 go along. 23 CHAIRMAN ZECH: I remember the program well 24 and I would certainly encourage the staff to keep that 25 in mind. It would be applicable in future plants. It HEAL R. GROSS COURT RfPoRTER$ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVINUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

be certainly had an 1-does look like it could have '2 impact on the construction marks that were given to / 3 Unit 2. 4 MR. TAYLOR: This is not meant to detract 5 from the efforts of the Georgia Power, but I think it 6 was a good, solid program that helped them to get 7 these marks. 8 CHAIRMAN ZECH: I think it was -- well, it 9 was an effort on the part of Georgia Power as well as 10 the staff, but I-think the combined effort perhaps is 11 reflective in some of these marxs. Let's hope it will 12 be reflective in operational performance. -13 MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir. Excuse me. 14 MR. ERNST: We wound up with very few 15 violations. I forget the exact number, but the number 16 7 comes to mind or something. So, it was well 17 worthwhile. 18 That does conclude my part of the a 19 presentation and a very fast overview. As I say, a 20 good bit of the material was covered by Georgia Power 21 in their part of the presentation. I would certainly 22 concur with the substance of what they had to say. 23 MR. SNEZICK: (Slide) Could I have slide 24 23, please? -( 25 In conclusion, the staff concludes that the NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS l 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AYENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

7 63 1. . pl a n t ' meets the regulations. And with the 2 Commission's authorization, we will proceed to issue 4 .~ 3 the full power license for Vogtle Electric Generating 4 Plant Unit 2. 5 However, I need to point out that the staff 6 will have to understand whether such authorization i 7 from the Commission includes permitting the Director 8 of'NRR's Anti-Trust Determination to be considered 9 final. 10 CHAIRMAN ZECH: I understand that. I'm 11 going to call on General Counsel in a moment to 12 address that specific subject. 13 Mr. Taylor, do you have anything else? 14 MR. TAYLOR: That concludes the staff's 15 presentation. 16 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. We will give the i 17 General Counsel an opportunity to. address that in a 18 few minutes. But let me ask my fellow Commissioners 19 if they have any questions or comments from staff 20 while they're here. 21 Commissioner Roberts? 22 COMMISSIONER ROBERTS: Don't your staff 23 conclusions generally say when you recommend a full l 24 power license can be operated without any undue risk 25 to public health and safety? NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVINUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 l

64 1 1 MR. SNEZICK: That is part of our finding 2 for issuing a license, yes, sir. 3 COMMISSIONER ROBERTS: Thank you. 4 That's all I have. 5 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Commissioner Carr? 6 COMMISSIONER CARR: Yes. In SALP for Unit 7 1, it indicated that there were 40 violations in that 8 12 month period and I noticed that Region II's got 9 about an average of 18. Have they done any better 10 since ti. end of that SALP date? 11 MR. ERNST: On Unit 1, sir? 12 COMMISSIONER CARR: Unit 1, yes. 13 MR. ERNST: I don't have the -- I have Marv l 14 Sinkule with me also, from the Region, and Chuck 15 Berger from the site. Do we have a number on that? 16 MR. SINKULE: Marvin Sinkule. Since the end 17 of the SALP period, they've had, I believe, and this 18 is an estimate, I believe six violations. The 40 -- I 19 think there were 31 violations in the last SALP. Ten 20 of them had to do with security. They're improving in 21 that area. There were seven or eight that had to do 22 with surveillance and early in the period they had 23 problems with some missed surveillance. Those 24 were -- also showed an improvement in that area. ( 25 The others had to do with -- six or seven of l NEAL R. GROSS CoVRT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON. D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

p 4- ~1 ther had to do with MP and we show improvement in that ? area. 3 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay. .And the other 4 area for the same 12 month period in that SALP, they 5. showed 20 allegations per site of Unit 1, Unit 2. I 6 noticed in your last look at them you said that that 7 progran has drastically reduced the allegations i 8 received. Is that still the case? Are you still-9 getting a lot of allegations? ] i 10 MR. ERNST: We' have a' fair number of 11 allegations. I believe there were 38 or so in.the past 12 couple of years since Vogtle 1 licensing, which is about 13 the same number per year as we had in Vogtle 1. 14 Our statements with regard to their Quality . + i. 15 Concerns Program is they have had an awful lot of 16 quality concern. I think it's over 3,000. These have 17 been addressed by the utility. The program is very well-18 advertised. We think it's open, that they've been very 19 responsive. As a matter of fact, their program itself, 20 when they're interviewed on their concerns, they say, if 21 you have any qualms whatsoever, go to the NRC and 22 discuss it with them. 23 So, yes, there have been a fair number of .t 24 allegations, but we also think their Quality Concerns 25 Program is good, has attracted a large number of issues 26 and that they have closed the issues. We have NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHODE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234 4 433 WA$HINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

cc 66 1 ' inspected their program and they've closed the issues.- .2 COMMISSIONER CARR: ~ Well, I brought.it up 3 because they're getting about 20 'per site.and your 4 average in Region.II is about 5 per site, which 5 indicated something. 6 MR. ERNST: 'I don't know the comparison of, .7 say, Vogtle to another' plant in ei similar status. 8 COMMISSIONER CARR: Inc1*. ding TVA, I should l 9-think. i i 10 MR. ERNST: Yes. When Harris was licensed, i l11 f orl ' example, I don't'know the exact numbers,'but they' l -12 were way up there. There are always a large number.of 13 -allegations and concerns-at a site under construction. 14 .In. the first place, you have far more people. You-15 know, you have thcusands of people on site, so you had-1 16 the potential for more. But that's been our standard 17 experience. But to compare exact numbers from one j 1 18-site to the other, I don't have that, sir. 1 'I 19 COMMISSIONER CARR: Okay. 20 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Thank you very much. ( 21 Commissioner Rogerr? l 22 COMMISSIONER ROGERS: No. -23 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Commissioner Curtiss? I 24 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Just one question. 25 Has the plant completed all of its post-TMI NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRIBER$ 1323 rho 0E l$ LAND AVINUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

67 1 modifications? j-2 MR. SNEZICK: On the

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3 implemented the TMI modification. There are two areas 4 where they are still doing some clean-up work. One is 5 the reactor vessel level instrumentation system and 6 the other one is the detailed control and design 7 review. Mr. Hopkins can give you a little more detail 8 on those. l 9 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Could you, please? 10 MR. HOPKINS: Yes. On the reactor vessel 11 level instrumentation system, that is installed and 12 calibrated. There is a final adjustment calibration 13 that needs to be done during the st--t-up program and (.;. 14 that's because the fuel is not installed. And so the 15 differential pressure across reactor vessel will be 16 different from that calibration previous to this. l 17 In detailed control room design review, l l 18 they've been doing that for six years now and they l 19 have imp?emented 160 human factors changes as a result f ( 20 of that. Now, when you go operational, there are the 21 final walkdowns and surveys that are done for human I s 22 factors now that the control boards all work and the 1 23 plant works. They have those yet to do. Any changes 24 that might be identified by those walkdowns are 25 typically implemented at the first refueling outage. NEAl. R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRANSCRIBER $ 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVfNUE. N.W. r (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

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implemented the TMI modification. There are two areas 4 . where they are still doing some clean-up work. One is 5 the reactor vessel level instrumentation system and 6 the other one is the detailed control room design 7 review. Mr. Hopkins can give you a little more detail 8 on those. 9' COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Could you, please? 1O MR. HOPKINS: Yes. On the reactor vessel 11 level. instrumentation system, that is - installed and 12 calibrated. There is a final adjustment calibration r. 13 that needs to be done during the start-up program and (; 14 that's because the fuel is now installed. And so the 15 differential pressure across reactor vessel will be ^ 16 different from that calibration previous to this. 17 In detailed control ~ room design review, 18 they've been doing that for six years now and they 19 have implemented 160 human factors changes as a result 20 of that. Now, when you go operational, there are the 21 final walkdowns and surveys that are done for human 22 factors now that the control boards all work and the 23 plant works. They have those yet to do. Any changes 24 that might be identified by those walkdowns are '(x 25 typically implemented at the first refueling outage. HEAL R. GROSS COMtf REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHODE 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

68 I 4 4 1 There are also an additional about 20 1 2 changes that have been previously identified with (. 3 those other 160 completed that they have not yet done 4 and those will be done with any human factors changes 5 identified with the operational walkdowns. The staff 6 finds that acceptable. 7 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Those changes will 8 all be done then by the first refueling outage? 9 MR. HOPKINS: I believe so. The operational 10 walkdown changes I can't -- typically, they're all 11 done at the first refueling outage. 12 COMMISSIONER CURTISS: Thank you. 13 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Well, thank you very much. i 14 I'd like to thank Georgia Power Company and 15 also the NRC staff for their presentations here today. 16 To summarize, I understand that the staff's position 17 is that they've concluded that the Georgia Power 18 Company and the Vogtle Unit 2 satisfy the requirements 19 for the issuance of a full power license. 20 Before we vote on the full power license, 21 I'd like to call on General Counsel to address the 22 anti-trust matter. 23 MR. PARLER: Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. 24 There's really no substantive anti-trust matter. It's 25 simply a procedural matter that the Commission will NEAL R. GROSS court RipoRTER$ AND TRANSCRIBERS 1323 RHoDE 15 LAND AVENbt, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

4 69 1 have to address in a few minutes. 2 The Office of the General Counsel agrees 3 with. the. Director of NRR's findings, that there has 4 'been no significant change in the activities involving 5 the license since the construction permit. We also 6 agree with the Director of NRR's determination that 7 the request for reconsideration did not raise any new 8 issues. That finding by Doctor Murley was published 9 in The Federal Register on March the 27th. 10 The Commission's regulations do provide for 11 a period for 30 days Commission review of such 12 determinations. The regulations are solely for the-13 benefit of the Commission. 14 I have conducted such a review and am 15 p r e p a r e d .t o advise you now of my opinion as to the 16 correctness of Doctor Murley's determinations. I 17 recommend that the Commission vote later on to waive l 18 the 30 day period to prevent Doctor Murley's 19 determinations to become final. 20 With that, Mr. Chairman, I have covered my 21 main assignment. But in the course of our reviews so i l 22 that I could make this recommendation, and the rev.4 ew 23 is the document that's in SECY-89-096, which I believe 24 is available in the room, we discovered or one of the i l 25 other lawyers discovered a sentence on page 5 of NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTER $ AND TRAN$CRIBER$ l 1323 RHoDE l$ LAND AVINUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WA$HINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 C______________. I

l F. 70 c. 1 Doctor Murley's decision, ' five lines from the top, 2 which possibly could be misread as changing the .u 3 applicable precedent. I've been informed by our anti-4 trust people, the lawyers, that there was no such 5 intent to change applicable precedent. The precedent. 6 that the Commission expressed some years ago in its 7 Sumner decision continues to be applicable. 8 The possible misreading was this, that under 9 no circumstances could a change in licensing 10 conditions regarding anti-trust matters ever result in 11 a significant change for anti-trust purposes. That 12 was not the intent. What was the intent was that the 13 issues that were raised by Oglethorpe were within the - (Y. 14 purview of the licensing conditions and that 15 Oglethorpe may take advantage of the procedures for 16 seeking enforcement of the licensing conditions, which 17 they allege are violated. The NRC staff will follow 18 up on these allegations. 19 With that, Mr. Chairman, I have completed my 20 presentations and I recommend that the Commission 21 waive the 30 day period allowed Doctor Murley's 22 determination to become final. 23 CHAIRMAN ZECH: All right. Thank you very 24 much. ( 25 Unless there are any additional comments or NEAL R. GROSS court REPORTERS AND TRANSCRissR$ 1323 RHoDI 15 LAND AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600

c 71 l 1 questions from my fellow Commissioner, I'll ask you 2 now if you're prepared for two votes, one on the anti-3 trust matter and the other on - the full power matter, 4 if you're ready to do that. 5 First of all then, we'll vote in favor of 6 committing the Director's reaffirmed findings of no 7 significant change to become final upon the issuance 8 of a full power license in accordance with the 9 recommendations of the General Counsel. 10 All those who favor doing so, please signify 11 by saying aye. 12 (Ayes.) 13 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Those opposed? 14 The vote is five to zero in favor. 15 ,The second vote then, those in favor of 16 authorizing the staff after making the - appropriate 17

findings, to authorize Georgia Power Company a full 18 power operating license for Vogtle Unit 2,

please 19 signify by saying aye. 20 (Ayes.) 21 CHAIRMAN ZECH: Those opposed? 22 The vote is five to zero in favor. 23 Thank you very much. We stand adjourned. 24 (Whereupon, at 3:35 p.m., the hearing was 25 concluded.) NEAL R. GROSS COURT REPORTERS AND TRANSCRIBER 5 1323 RHoDE ISLAND AVENUE, N.W. 1 - (202) 234-4433 W ASHINGToN, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 l i

I l CERT'IFICATE OF TRANSCRIBER This is to certify that the attached events of a meeting of the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission entitled: TITLE OF MEETING: DISC ~USSION/POSSIBLE VOTE ON FULL POWER OPERATING LICENSE FOR V0GTLE, UNIT 2 l PLACE OF MEETING: ROCKVILLE, MARYLAND DATE OF MEETING: MARCH 30, 1989, were transcribed by me. I further certify that said transcription is accurate and complete, to the best of my ability, and that the transcript is a true and accurate record of the foregoing events. my (j Reporter's name: Peter Lynch C l l NEAL R. GROSS i COURT REPORTEt$ AND TRANSCRitfR$ l 1323 RH00f ISL*MO AVENUE, N.W. (202) 234-4433 WASHMOTON, D.C. 20005 (202) 232-6600 w-______--___--_______

3/30/89 SCHEDULING NOTES: TITLE:' - DISCUSSION /POSSIBLE VcTE ON FULL POWER OPERATING LICEi1SE FOR V0GTLE, UNIT 2 ' SCHEDULED: 2:00 P.M., THURSDAY, MARCH 30, 1989 (OPEN). DURATION: APPROX l-1/2 HRS q PARTICIPANTS: GEORGIA POWER COMPANY 40 MINS - ROBERT W. SCHERER i CEO AND CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD - GPC - A. WILLI AM DAHLBERG l PRESIDENT - GPC l i - PAUL D. RICE EXECUTIVE-VICE PRESIDENT - GPC - R. PATRICK MCDONALD EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT NUCLEAR OPERATIONS .GPC 3 - GEORGE BOCKHOLD PLANT MANAGER NRC 20 MINS - I. MURLEY, DIRECTOR, NRR J. HOPKINS, NRR PROJECT MANAGER M. ERNST, DEPUTY REGIONAL ADMINISTRATOR REGION 11 _-__---..----___.___----__._--_-___x_

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