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Forwards Communications Repts Associated W/Piping/Pipe Support Audits.Repts Also Listed in Attachment
ML20236R936
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Site: Comanche Peak  Luminant icon.png
Issue date: 11/13/1987
From: Williams N
CYGNA ENERGY SERVICES
To: Ellis J
Citizens Association for Sound Energy
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84056.127, NUDOCS 8711240123
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Dear Mrs. Ellis:

i Enclosed please - find' communications reports associated with the piping / pipe support

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. If you have any questions or desire to discuss any.of these documents, please do not hesitate to call.

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< 1Q - Pipe Support RlL 42 SWEC used Nelson stud test data to extrapolate Hilti allowable loads for distance as close as 3D with a minimum of 21/2 inches. Cygna requested cuantification of the shear allowables as may be affected by tie concrete stress field at the tip of information concernmg the applicability of the interaction equation.

SWEC agreed to provide the information at a later date.

o Flued Head Analysis - Pipe Stress RIL 3 Cygna had two questions.

One, are there any Class 1 penetrations; and two, will Class 2 penetrations be analyzed per ASME III, NC - 3600?

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The results of the SWEC study of the five TERA problems are roughly the same as those from the study. of the five SWEC problems.

o Design of Seismic /Non-Seismic Interface Anchors Pipe Support RIL 45 SWEC is preparing a calculation that compares bolt-loads i

using combined moment and torsion (per interaction equations) vs. CPPP-7 procedures.

This will define an interaction ratio below which the interface anchor need not be specifically analyzed for the effects of moment and torsion from the non-seismic side.

SWEC will develop a screening procedure using a factor of safety of two on the Hilti bolts.

SWEC contends that the factor of safety equal to two is appropriate since experience has shown that it is extremely unlikely that the non-seismic pipe will fail in the manner postulated for design.

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Design of Seismic /Non Seismic Interface Anchor - Pipe Support RIL 45 (see Telecon dated April 4,1987 and Conference Report

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Using absolute sum wouldn't significantly affect the results because the non-seismic side moments always dominate.

Support ductility is not - explicitly calculated.

Since the design-already conforms to CPPP-7 requirements, the support will have sufficient ductility.

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Cygna has reviewed the SWEC report," Documentation of ASME III NA-1140 Review for Piping and Supports", October 28, 1986 (Reference Enclosure F to TU letter TXX-6133).

Cygna requested clarification regarding the report.

I o Later Code Paragranhs for Stress Intensification - SWEC L

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o Later Code Paragranhs for Stress in Tension - SWEC Report Items 4 and 5 SWEC does not invoke the additional examination requirements

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NF-5224 Winter '82, impose specific inspection requirements. SWEC will consider this issue and respond at a later date.

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SWEC responded that AISC user linear for convenience and that the power interaction also meets the intent of AISC. (Reference AISC Commentary 1.63.) Use of one over the other should have no hardware impact.

o Punching Shear - Supnort RIL 4 Cygna questioned = the use of Fy in the Wardenier equation l

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Cygna inquired whether the additional torsional moment, Mz, i

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of SWEC - Cherry Hill . Bob Pascaretta Cygna Required item Comments Action By i After receiving a telecopy of SWEC PM-188 on 9/24/87; Cygna had several questions that needed clarification: 1Q Is.the 'T' in the left column of Tables 4.1 and 4.2 cn page 5 supposed to be pipe thickness "t"? No definition of 'T' is given in 'the nomenclature on pages 1 and 2. 1A Yes, that is a typo 'T' should be "t". 2O The reference calculation for this project memo is given (on page 6, Section 6.0) as : 15454-NZ (B)-GENX-201, Rev. O. In Ref. #1, (Page 11), and in Ref. #2 this calculation number was stated as-15454-NZ(B)GENX-035, Rev. 2, which is correct? 2 A-The No. listed in PM-188 is correct: Calculation Number 15454-NZ(B) - GENX-201, Rev. O. '3 Q The graphs of Section 5.0 give piping specification category numbers L 150,151,301,601 and 1302, what do these represent? ' 3 A. These numbers refer to the piping temperature and pressure ratings given to piping in the piping specification 232-MS-200, Appendix 3 which includes Specs. 232 MS-43A and 2323-MS-43B. p Signed; Page of Distribution: SEE ATTACHED DISTRTf3UTION SHEET. mo oi.

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