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	ML20147E126
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Site:	Trojan File:Portland General Electric icon.png
Issue date:	12/11/1978
From:	Mccollom K, Mark Miller, Paxton H; Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel
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2394 4t ,a ** ' ap'.r. earing in.bohn_f of myself and en beha3f of the Ccalition t for r3 rife ?ower, and my' address is 215 3cutheast Ninth, % rtland ',. p o .A 3y. Greg:*n. t p. .4 l MS. BELL: My name 13 Mina Bell. I-am representing I .y. myself, and the censolidated Intervenors, arid I reside at 3 4 632 lioutheast 18, Portland, Oregon. 61 MR. GFJn': I am Joseph Gray, cc;mul for the NRC - 7 g ! Staf:!. accompanied by Itarjoria Ulaan, also counsel for the NRC O Sta f. Ulman i.s enolled U-1-m-a-n. d 9h ~ .j MR. ROSE: I am flichaal Rode. I am appearing. for - 10 the Columbin.nvironmantal Council, on behalf of Mr., Kaf 0ury, who was unfortunac.ely ~ unable to make it today. I have a ) latter from Mr. Kc.foury that I wculd like to address to +.ha- { \\ Br:ard at the appropriate tinB. 14 ;l ll CIIAIRMAK MILLER: All righn. We will have such 13 liit; communications in a moment, after we have identified counsel 1G ;d ,. c.ad parties. 17 hj MR..S000LCFSKY: John Socolofsky, respresenting the 13 ? I S: ate of Oregon. 19' CHAIRMAN MILLER: All right. 4 20 j i p Does this cover now all of the parties -- counsel,. P j' ?.2 [,; intarvanors, and the like? I, ~ i ' 4 I I'v All right. We will tn'<e up now matterc for the a, racord, befers we start with the taking of testimonv. I ~ 24 4 belisve, Mr. Rosa; that you acid you have a-letter that you . 25 - I j. 4 it

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,4 ? of thia thing tbut we're plucking depends on the frequancy a e centanu. t.act yon-re s a.sn.:.r.ng .4,,,o w.un, ana - - n > fj CID.miAN MILLER: 97ait a minute. Tha frequency E j! content of the thing you're shaking it with? .!i 20 4 WITUESS W1ITE: '?o s. i t; Let's aay that you have something very rigid, and 2,- hr, v.ou moved it back and forth., very clowlv., and -- ca -c. ,( ; y ;! CHAIMW MILLER: Gemething moving very slculy, m s O 23 [ back and foruh very alcwly (demonstrating by moving an LA l m... 0, upandad bound voluna clowly back and forth.) d ? n Hs i

I 2421 wel 17 1 iCTME05 m ITE: Right. !?ow, if the ching that g we're moving is very rigid, ie s going to x.ovo along with the 2 t V. , '/ 3 ' support motion, not really amplifica very much. ~ t (~' 4. C :AI1UUni MILLER: Juaplify.means to increase the 5 intensity, I suppose? 6 WITMSSS WICTE: itight. ? biow, if I shahs it hardar new 4.he system.will i G vibrate and deflect, and acu amplify that motion. 4 9 CHAIRMAN MILT.ER: What's the c.mplificaticn? I 10 guess that's my problem. 11 WITNESS WHITE: That's increasir.g or changing the P 12 motion at the top of your item relative'to the motion that

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I. about here. One of them is the frecuencies caused by the l es I~' 5 l 22. .carthquaks, and the othar one is the frequency which he l lj-., {- } refers to aa, the natural fraquency, which is a characteristic 23 e '. of tha aquipment that we'ra talking ebout. 1 34 Y 3.Ad MS. EDLL: Righh. Ue.11, that's kind of what I .c-9 :: j. 4 a O, i , _.. ~. - -. ... - ~. -.

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.(_ ~ 3 A (Witness White) Amplification isn't a change in ,() 4 frequency. It's just -- you gSt this picco of equipment, or 5 whatever the item is, and you have some sort of motion at the 6 bottom where this thing is supported, i?ow, the amplification 7 would be at some other point on the equipment you're d measuring, the movement there. And any change between what 9 cocas in at the bottom and what you are measuring up there 10 would be ~~ normally it's'an amplification. Sometimes it can 11 ' be a decrensa, depending on hcw stiff the syctem is. 12[ Q So if a piece of equipment has a natural if frequency, that doesn't change? (, a 14 ! A No. i 15 0 Under no circumstance? 16 A Under normal circumstances it doesn't, 17 ! Q Wall, what's not a normal circumstance? I A Well, let's say you. . a non-linear effect, as 18 l 19 long as the syctam remains linear the natural frequency does 20, not change. 21 Q And when we were. talking about structural 22 fraquencies and non-linear behavior that had to do with k_s. ) 23 things like cracking and stresa in concrete, what sorts of I~' 23 things are included when wc'ra ec1 king about non-linear ,A 26 behavior in equipmant? l, - t

. ~. ~.. 1 -ween 20 2424 \\ I d i1 A' "'he equipv.e.at .'.n' this plant. uill not go r.on linba.:. 4 a l L' ( Q You referrad to a higher mode. You sai<i there was .s \\ 3 a fundamental one and a higher one. What is the higher _one?: 0 < L '- A A Chay. Let's say you had a atring that uas 5 vibrating,.and one~end was tiod to the wall and you were 6 shaking the other.and with your hand. If'you had just a 7' singla sina nave frem the point uncro your hand.ic to a. fixed O point on the wall, tha. would he its fundamental mcde, just S one complete sine wave. ) 10 2 Tow,.if you -shaka it fastarf. now you can get it .1 i. .in so that you have two cine wavos. That would be a second 15 mode. 15 In a 'tructura, tha firat ecdc could he the uhing s ( ? .i ti deflecting c11 in one direction. A highar :: da would be 19 One pa.rt of tha structure going in one direction, 0.nd uho 1s sthor part of the structuro going in the other direction. If It would ha a reverso in tha curvatura. 19 Again, it's similar to the shaking of the string. w It's--just another kind of motien that the building is capable p.9 of exhibiting. 7 3}

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Plant, than is chorn :canibly any c.quiprunn thcrn that siculd (3, -.V/ 0 go into tbia higitar frequana'; rcodu? Or hignar moda? ,(m' 4 A 071tneaa Phite) cna co:na to raind righc now. 5, Eut if they are in tho analy-,i.,:. is.mhen into account 3 But I cc.,'t think of a.:gecii?ic c: am.7:.a ri.J t nou. h 7 Q Whore would we ht-able.to.lind chat inf:ir:aation? 'O A (Witnasa anderaon) Wai3. bhere are soms tanits 9 citting on legs that have relit.tiv ny 7.cw frequencies and 10 ?2ey are looked at to see if that would ha a oroblem. i 11 Unually they are also qualified nin a rigid rango. 12 I can't think .of any equi]: ment that wen 1i bo in a very low n U 13 L fraquency range. ( 1,1 Q .? don't scan to puch you, hat you can't think of is, envthinc, cus: vou say thara ia a :cssibility thc. thoro la I. }s ocme other.

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19 A (Witness Nhita) In tha 7ShR there is just a list 29 of the aquipment. And the analysis takes into account ^ 2! "hntever mcdea are cignificant. j p2 Q Nell then whers ara wa go.ng to find out if there .( I are anv other things besides some canho? w {M A (Witness Ande: son) I dan think there is a } p J cpecific liauing on that. I think that tha lista are given g t i i

2 <.i 2 C I 19.n I in ths FSAF and s;1.9 qucliiic," '..., e nh.:da are inc2 adria. The l I A 5 cualifica* ion methods are 9:rp:? .aed and there is n.) v.peciric a .iw,f. V 3 list giving a highar or lower ":w:to.:.cy range tar; aquipmand b 4 might be in. " believe that ic gi an in the PST.R Table 3.,7-2 O. as I r2 call gives cc:a qua.i.mcmr.on ca.: nod.:ar ' ru:;;mn c. 7 Q Would the qualification meP. hod bu related to the t 0 peccibility that equipment doea rospond in lacra than one. mode? 9 A (Winn. ass Unita) The quali:iication method would 10 concider it. !l Kormally, th3 qu.nlijicr,ulon r.nthed i:s raoro datermined UL on the comple::ity at the itam heing qualifiad rc. char chan r is 1.3 whather it ie, going to rocpond ..n a ainello node or higher p modes, although that is part c2 ic., Eun, the bigga n pa.rt is 13 how co.mplax a ayatem is it. t, a C Mhat is - in torms of quantitativa. or nt:'arical p.- cence, what c.ra ifa t:lhing c.':ct: uhan un are ':al:"..u bnut the 1'3 natural frequencies cf equipment? t 39 I maan, thera are acca numbers asscciat2d with l l p,o thosa. I think you mentioned scmething about - som. place 1 1 4; toda:l sorter.hina about being abcva 30 cyclea per necand. l i .i .n ], " Scr: tall,y cn itsm thr-ha2 a frequoney greatar m i. O 4.3 i ta== 3o cr= lee >or===oma 3 ee act e=>11er the mo=ica oz it" i I /~T cupport end therafora is ncr aally called rigid. i t 5 I v) \\ i v I 3R. MC CCLLOM: Could I ask a question right there? .z0 y i i e l { 5 k$

I l ?. 2429 h i -l That is in the frecc.caciac : nap. ara.: acent in mma f. 2l tne earthquake? ' n.u aj' -WITNESS WHITE: In the earthquako, yes. . - O... 4 MS. BELL: Now you hrve got m2 confused. 3, What are the spcotra? f 6 dR. MC COLLOio: We talked aboct two differant 7 kinds'of frequencies, as I recall. And you ccked if this 6l ' 30-cycles par second, a natural frequency of equipment was 4 9l important. 10 What he was trying to confirm is that the response - - 11l the spectra that is pres 2nt'from the carthquake, synthesized, 4

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Q And haveyou talked with the peopls who did those D criginal seismic qualifications? D A He have primari.LJ raviewed written reports and -10 documents that wore developed at that time. 11 Q so would ycu say that ycu have rwiewed the 12 original coismic qualification, or you just lockad at the .f3 (/ ja recultc to compare t32c vith waat you cr.cr.o up trith? r ,.,8., 14 A Well, it depands. 15 Wharo we natually iconcd at piping systems we went 16 back and did a complace racnulycis of tha piping systems that 17 were in questien here. And so there wac very little reason 10 to go back and. lock at the original analysi.5 other than just fox 19 ccmpariaen pus. poses. 20 For aquipment we did look at the documentation lf* 21 that was developed e.nd the testa results and oc forth that j 22 was done at the tira that the aquipmant was qualified. . [~. ;

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Q are you f:nniliar tiith the topical reports that i ' A, 24 wure refarencad in tha original acismic qualification of n k,, gg equipannt? t i

l 2d24 1; L,. 3.x 3 A-(gitnasa cica) ap.t.e:1 re7, orts? m , ?iAs h[f 1 2 O Yr.. Generic topical i:aporcs. t ' )L,[] ' 3 'A Like which ones? ^ ~,.. % Q .Well right off the hat I can'5 remember their f.- s. ( 'U numbers. I guess.the. answer is no? 9 A~ Well, I mean if you mm.cion the document we may 'i - have some familiarity with it. 9l Q Well, I guess in ter.ns of this precoeding you did 1 9i lockintothlat. Is that'true? 10 +I A He have. reviewed a number of documsnes. I am not 11 sure wh! 4 ones you are talking dout. 12 ]i Q I guess we would hava to geb down to the Opacific f}s. t N 13, ' equipment, which ones were qualified, which reports, and 14'i that might get a little tedious. l 15 ! We will leave that for a whila. .16 CHAIPl4AM. MILLER: Thank you. 17 MS. 3 ELL: I might bring it up later if the 18 Board will.let me. 19 3Y MS. BELL: ?.0 - Q~ Could you toll me what your background tnd expertise '2. is as far as seismic and anvironmont:1 qualification of 7 1 22 equipment, nuciant plant componenta and piping gees, N c. (i) -23 MR. GRAY: Mr. Chairman, I am going to cujoct to (] -24 at lanst a ocrtion of that quention. i-9 -t'F I am not curs that we era concerned with anvironment 21 g3=

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):3 A (Witness n' hits) Thic.: qcas back to A;;p ndi:s C and i ry 1 the GT:W.0WE report wi.sre D of ' M land Seilection curv ca i 19 are given for t. lower beund type of rurensa of the 19 composite walls, to A (Witness Anderson) ~ta would sxcect some stiffness 21 degradatisn nr. higher lea.ds due to :: racking 2nd sligh: o 22 inelastic beha.vior, and so fortn. Go thers:s cc.:e degradation t 's . (. u, in etiffasca Thea you get uo.. to high loada cha.t *,70uld bc e Q 33 aunccia.ted with an CEE. I \\ A (Witnese rlhita) This is .r. reductirn in stiffnscs 23 4

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.s t :'I widening of the finoe responsa "; peer.1 P.13a conaidsred the J 3 L affset of possible inelastic huhe.vicr 0 ~ the cc.atro? i n ,l' c;uilding unS.E tae 333 ccuditice.'.. f. <9 Dec.: hhia inta;:aat in L.e north-so:.ba direc;tir r:i t ccmc abcut becauce of the unsymctrical shape of: the c.;mple:c? t A Not reallv. It'e 'f.a6 more to the :.utils that are s'., ,f most highly strascad. ql Q Which walls is that? I'n aura T.te cover:..d thic i t ,p l 'nefora, bu a i m i ,u. s A That wenici he the w.nt wcil. In would. receivo t ~ O .J. its load das te the north-couth w rthztake. ,ss t g1 Q Again:. I think wa've coversd this but would you i i 6 , ~.,

... ~. 1 2455 . w e l,G.- \\ l 1 1 say -- ia che difference bett e r e :.cna cistcry and a: 2 cccasaration 4c.me c..tzcory -- .s chere an ic.yagracion step 9 e. t from one to tha cther? x,..' 3 A The differenca be': ween accelaration and accelera- {s, 4 5j tion tir.c history? i O No. Tine histcry E.nd acceleration t:ime history, G a A. More than likely they're used int:.rchhngeably ' i g - here, but it ic possibla to hase a displacement tire hirr:ory. Eut I would imagine in hero t.ny'ra intsrchangeable. 9 Q Okav. 10 Was thers any reason why. it Gays, the new.

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time history has a total dura:f.an of 24 second.s ~~ why that 12 tiir.e poried?. g t A I don't think thera'n Ecything particularly magic g about the 34 cecond durs. tion. 2.at is a comacnly-used 15 curation. Out the: a lan't anything specifically relatad to g tha Trojan cita the.t Tccid mann iv 21 cecenic. 17 !

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U2're getting now into what has t been covered before. ,9 4 M3. SELL: Mc11, it'u sonstimes hard for ce to to figure cut which have been md Nhich haven't been talked g e about, and if the centext Vas the same as what I want to talk 22- /~N about than in. ,, V - 23 CHA!EAM MILI22: "ou can ask that cuestien verr ^ 24 V pracisely. In whe.t uny do thoco ctudios relate to the 25 t ._..._..-...._..._.-.-___,._..,....._..,._..,._..,-.-.-..._._._._...u_..-.....__.-.-.__....

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now, as distinguished from the prior uwo weeks of hearings. \\ 3 a I think if you can frame your questions in that t g way and put them right to the witnessas, then you will advance j the issues that you're entitled to go into. 7 BY MS. BELL: 3 Q on figures 2 and 3 in Enhibit number 19 thet deal 9 with damping for one porcent and tuo percent, reccectively, go did at some point you say that that was just sort of for g illustrative purposes, and that you're not p3 A (Mitnosc Whito) Yes. () gg Q Enonco m3, did you ancrer? 1 A Yos. 4 s; Q And that'c all those ara for? 34 : -t ) A As far as SEE,yes. 1 I O Now, on page 3 in hhe same exhi. tit :niu tal.'c about g some response spectra fall below tne design spectra only at 4, a few frequencies, but the amount is alucys lacs than 10 g .;.) percent. I presume that this 10 percent is.uob significant, in your opinion? 33 A Yes, it is definitely not significant, especially .'2 if you 1 k in terms of the ecmparicen in the fraquency range 23 acsociated uith the structural.;sapense. (g 33 d 's Thiu is best shown in figure.i. If you look at the ,g g

'l 1 2457 wel S. 1 'l freq"ency ranga graatcr the.n cyclc3 per'.tacond -- 2 O And ths.t was covered in the 2 nrd's cross-excmina-() s_. 3 tion before? ~ ("% 4 .A Righ. ..t. -5 Q In your opinion if 10 parcant'isn't significant, - 5' what would be? 7 A I think that the actual _ percentages. is not so 'O important as the entant over chich that discrapancy should g happen to occur. In other wordr there sculd be a 30 percent e to dip below, and if it.rias an entretaly narrow paak it would 11 have no impact at all on the system. 12-Q I guess I'a having a hard time figuring out 13 enaccly what you would.considar'adynificant. e 14 A Haro, being the structural responca, there's i 15 nothing below it. I don't know what relevance it has. jg Q Could you tall me whc.t a Fourier emplitudo tella 37 us, and perhaps what a Fourier deccmposition analysi:3 is? i A In the davelopment of the time history that we 18 39 use -- the acceleration time history that we used in the 20 analysis of the structure, this is made up of -- one way to 2' look at it is a cories of sine wcVes. In other words, we'd 22 have a sine wave, just a pure sine wave, cf 5 cycles per j _ 23 second, and I think another one of 7 cycles per second. And u 24 you add those together, and you:11 have a neu ::avo form. Okay? .25 The time history, you can think of it as I' I

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l 2475 1-inhoront censarvatism tha: is bu:i.it into a b.,ilding that ue ,h, 6 2 hava talk 2d about ae.r?.ior. -h. 3 G okay. You raf3r to, qncte, ' cur a: porienca that 4 valves can cafaly tolerate accaloration 1av31s 23 to 50 percent 5 higher." Are these, again, similar to your hasto done -- you s were doing on he crble trays? 1 A Uo, we have gone back ':o valie rz.nufacturers in cartain casos and asked t. tem to r9 evaluate ;their valves for nw g higher ct ess invels, and they hav-2 doaa thia ;.nd said that .g they vare okay. Usually val e.s have a graat doal of conservatiam g; built inte tham. 33 G Okay. /] , o. ( MS. BELL: I g.tess dat ccncludcr imf cross-exa:tinati( n. 4, m CHAIR!GN MIZ23R: Thrnh you. 1, MR. ROSE: Mr. Chcirnan, if I riight --- among the 16 Consolidar.ed Intervencrs., a decisien was mada that Miss Ball .el would proceed first and then Mr. Resolie, and den myself. g CHAIE:GIi MILLEP.: Mr. Rosolie. g You are not a Conz.o".idat3d Intervanor now,1:a you uC Mr. Doual MR. POSE 2 Anong those of us sitting at the table. 96 (Laughter.) .-) CID.IP.M1W MIIJP.: Car ^:ainly. i 'd O L' .~

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!O of thac picing in say, normal aperation of the plant? 19 A Well, a very si.'all mount of movenent might bc .,0 caused by a vibration of aquipmant. But it would be very, 4.1 Very c:nall. i. <. .. ~ '; Q Zn roupc:ssa to 2nhi' it 20, tha first question by 23 l cae c.C, s.n,1 f.c last.;.aragrap.:. in that r.asponse en than page, n V)t. t <e you tilh cibout a comput.2r program, C?nAY Cc.n you tell m.s -- rr a a f e -.r e +- <n,.
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10I and when was this or: gram developed? u I i 11! A The ac' ual comytter program itself, I'm not sure c 12 how long it has baen around. It 12 a couple of yearc kind of. 13 ! thing. The methodology, however, has been around for a 14 number of y9ars. 15 j A (Witness Anderson) This is just a simple program i 16l that replaces laborious hand calculatiens for this.
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r l' 10 ! He vere simply pointing out in th:.t paragraph D. I t a t t.h.o."~ .'.s .@.a* i +. 4.m. a n.~..~.'w'._'a-'".., a".". "a."'.. , co '".cP. 4.o
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i 19 ht the end of that there erill be a full evidentiary p,o hearing with contentionc, we might ss.y, r2garding the p,; modificatinas that will be proposed, their adequacy from a f? safo standpoint. ..s That is not uhat wa ara involvsd,in hera. Nor g3 g a4 uill bc, ragardicca of cur dsciaion on the interim power. V i V The interix. pcscr issue is a discrete issue. .T.t haat e l x 1 l } a ... _.... -. ~....,..
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1 "a re!.ationchip to ns;ad fo:c 90 r - n.' that is why tre 2-accegued no evic!snt:e, and at one timo when ve. vere at a 3 specini prehearing conference fa would accept no such '4 evidence. It was a nonissue, becauco this was an ( 5 c:ciating, licensed plant. It has an operacing licence. We 6 .can't go beyond that. 7 Cat we ' ara racuired to and hava gone into fully 8 the issues of tho.incdaquacies from a reiamic standpoint. 9 That is the bounds of our power of jurisdiction. 10 We can't go into other matters because it is 11 already a licenred plant and those isuces have been determined 12 through the proceduras of NT!C, and we have no delegation of s O Is vo er, we aeve eo utaori 7 =c ec imeo 12 esea-( 14 And wa haven'b., either ut your request, or when 15 proffarod by Donneville Power. 16 So on that basis No wi?.:- have to deny your motion. 17 em. NOSE: Mr. Chai:,: man, might I !!cr tha record t is on behalf of the Environnental Council, support Ms. Bell's 19 motion. 20 I think the most crucial point to remember is that '21 the entire presupposition that iJ going in here is that the 'f i 22 I Trojan plant and the clactricity generated thereby is n D s ) 23 q necosnary ane, g L 24 C" AID 14Jdi 11 ILLER: That is not in issue. If it ic q -LA h I 1.I gg y not in iccue, how aru ue ralying on it, counsel? j Il I e i i I I ps L
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t i M MR. RCSE: I believe that by.5:ntertaining the ~ ) i 11 0 concept of isauing an interim licensing op3 ration, that . I. 3 52 , preuupposition is made, y y (f 12 I, parhaps irlill agran uith th Ecord and agree ..-( M uith tnis tribunal that the matter has beon ruled as a matter of law to be irrelevant and inadmissible in these croceedines. I 16 However, I think thn: the unique acpect2 of this casa in i 17 that ~~ and the unique ecntroveraies carrounding the Trojan i 18 plant, brings into quastien the whola idea of what we are 1S trying to accomplish.. and what we are trying to accomplish, 20 and.I believe what the Board is urying.to accomplich, in t l :. 21 to decide whether or not the plant can operate safely. i i-And I think inhorant in that decision is a question P.2 ,l i. t i 23 of whether the plant ought to 'cacrate at all. And that is p 24-Scsice01y thz reacon for that. That is for the record. .O j 25 CHAIRMiD! MILLER: We understand your point there, t- + b - J i 1 i
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icanos of inw ware stated by nc cc.rd cud int;iudad in our O,._ 3 crder'asiof Movember 3. Since Uc7stbcr.3 the partisc hcvc-ct - N 4 had full Opportunity and :tavo au '.cact'bosn racuented to s.I. 5 submit the propocad findiigs of fact and conclusions of Icu. G '2ho data vac fixed for Motrember 20th. It wa: c l t-7i little over tuo' ucci:s frc1.:he conclusion :f the hearing, 'We i E hcd crigi; ally anao::r.ced to th2 p rties and to all counsel, I i t e 3l -that we intended to nak for propo.3c0 findinga uithin one'wcek 4 10 I
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vovering tha. interin operation issos only. 19 "So w* therefore wanted to advise all of you as /.9 j-sarly as possible, we sent hhe telegram a week nge, we are f 21 li'. halling you again, please be prepn. red to enlighten the ~ ?.;. Donrd as fully vm you -d n4., as hily as you.cnn, of ycur j py,1 propccci findings or tne aubstance thereof,and niake tha j '4 1 7A. { rSCOrd fully oOZPldte D9CMSS9 W 03 Nant hO h3ON ?.nd undhr- _I stand your position. p3 t ) 1-i \\ i 1 I4 l y- -i w9 yy,r , y vv-sr,-hp-y-9 y y yhy=+-m wyr-m s ri yp y-rg pv yw w 'r_y y www ' 3qee g-9 Wa g wg _-------y p rm-- g W$9 fI t*-9W'*W'SP e r 1F M g -'T-1 Dr ? - 3 4ve=*e4f'-*WDm'-41t M W-=v'WG*' -*f.I.h ae' em +W'eM*F '#su"--*'m'W
z i' t n u d. I t mm)~ i i l' MR. ROS'1 : ~2 I w.igs: r.rj w.h 5 that v=ry briefly 4. 2 again for the record. q. .i .' Q : 3 Fror. my readingc, it scams'to me -- and I belicve (. 4 it is in 10 CPR 2.754,.the rulsa provide that -- let's sec, 5 other. parties raay file' proposed findings, conclusions of law .6 and briefs within 30 days after the record is closed. ~ I 7 And again, in subsection A of that it says, 1 0 basically) except as otherwise provided ard cr"ered by the 9 presiding office::. 10 It seems to me ttat -- that bucically coemcLtc ma il te zet a matter of pclicy that frca the cloca of the raccrd 12 .the parties, the intervening party I guacs in this case, would s n U( - 13 have 30 dcyc.. And I crc, somewhat concerned that acutr. ling the record will be clocing tomcrrow -- and I am sorewnct 14 15 concerncu as to tha reurens for this rush on it. And I also 16 would erprsse my concern for, bacically -- for Mr. daicury's 17 position in this ragard. 18 He has -- I know fr:m personal knowledge ar 19 from my reprosentatirn to tha tribunal, that Mr. Kafo .y has 20 been undar an extrnordinary werhlcad in his practice of law. 21 He is in the middla cf a trial right now and aimply has not 22 had the cpportunity. It asems to me that uhile the Ecard i 23 hec been nare-than accommodating, I supp:sa this matter -- 24 r.atter of Ocurtcoy or mattor of rocognition of Mr. Hafc'iry's (I 25 parcicular dilemma and particular prob 1cm at this point ought t 5 ll N l
6.n v.. e ml:1 I '.; M -. :than into Eccour.:. 2 CEAIRMM! MILLER: Nell, we can aopreciate your O' 3 . position, Mr. Rone. 4 Thank you for making it part of the record and 5 settina. clear the situn';icn that v.ou and Mr. Kafoury may be 1 0 in, I Sut I must point out that we have been in eviden-O tiary hearing since cctob r, which was originally 9 scheduled for Septem.e:r. And w2 have been enjoined by 10 the Commission to prcceed si:palitiously, concistent with 11 reaching a sound reunit en the is.ue of interim cporation. 12 Thic is interim operation. So, in: hava concidered s 13 yeur peints. Ac 2 any, se 0:n appreciate than. But, the Is 14 ' Board does not foal that'it can change its position with 15 reference to proposed findings or the date of issuance of 1G the partial initial decision. 17 Ne will, however, snacurage and cooperate with all la counsel and parties to submit -- and I must sny we get very 19 little in writing frcm Intervenorn, or frem you or 20 Mr. Kafoury, Mr. Ross. Now I kncu you arc busy, and various 21 other reacens, no doubt which I '1culdn't even want to go 22 into. But nonetheless, ce don't get anything in writing. 23 All right. He ar2 going to give you a chance to 24 do it orally. Please de the besc v..ou can. pd'd 25-MR. ROSE: I am a prodigious producer of paper. e -.e--- '.w,a.~~-r, ,y -rv., ,,r --w, =,,w,,,,.m ,e+- ,ww- ~w r r
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f-l 'Ncycmber 22, 1973 submittal,. theca investigations.cro i ?( adeque.te to mako the determination that'theroJis',' if-raasenchla Escurance'that the cafety related. equipment, t 5 cystema, piping cnd ccmpcnonts in ths Control / -f Auxiliary /Fudl Euilding ccmple:: will withctand 'an .I tti! carthquaka up to and including tha 0.3Sg SSB.* i 8 11 [ U u, I hate to cay thist. but this decen 5 mako a i 13 I uholo lot of sense to me. Maybo it8 0 becaur.o it's such a s i '2l long contenco. 'l M l: But tharO tra an awful lot of. qualifiers in thare,- s! and I'm really not cure what yeu :e trying to say, 8 i i 13f MR. GRAY: Do you hav: a qucction, Mic 30117 17 j Would ycu like him te clarify u.tr.t? I la ; BY US. BELL: !d-Q That ic ny questien. Would you please a:: plain 30 what you r.can by that? 3!' A In the submittala referancad there the Licencoe
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l wal n 2544 ? aicrises has damonutrated Enz.t t'.:a systems, equipment ?- coqca nts, ' et co ca ra, cut withstand the certhquake up to /" T .U 3 nad including the SiE of.25g. ( A Q Could you simplify this phrane for ma: S "...theea investigv.:icns c.re adequate to make S the datormination that there is M aconable assurance..." 7 That,.to me, is very vague aa to what you actually 9 narn. 3nd if you could just phrase it in a differant English, 9 then I think I could mayoa ur:.derstand tha maaning of it. Raticnal in7+.sti.&.hions,. using standard engineering 10 A J 11 t:chniqucc and practice, have been performed, and you can't 12 make a 100-percent stntement of anything. Therefore, given 1;3 the review of whn: tras dena, you can maka the detarrination 14 that thera's reasonable z.csurance that it will withutand it. i is Q Are you familit.: with the originn1 safety 19 evaluation report and the supplenontal safety evaluation I7 report as they refer to teiamic qualification of.safaty-13 relat3d equipment? ' i; 10 A YGS+ i-f~ 29 Q And in your estimaticn, do you believe that the Licansoe coverad all points that wara raised or,put into o i so auestion?- C 23 !!R. GIGY:. Objection, Mr. Chairman. I. don't see d how this is natorial. They d: have an oporating liconse. The o A) ' Q .e. n matters of equipmant qualification as raiced at the operating i i; 1 i, 9 y + e,_., c, ..w.we- - e,r we-e, .-m. e e w w *-v e-+-r - " - ' - ~ * ' '
~. . i 1 2545 i r W 3.1 j l l-L licsnca str.ge wara *:wolered satisfactorily to iMus an tt'i n 6 operating licensa. O.v u, CHAIIBIBM :CLLER: I understood the question was ~( 4 with raf?.rance to the Staff's safety evaluation of the - propocad. modifications, following the Ma" 26 order. ,4 Are you going back to the -- ~ MS. 2 ELL: That2 a :right. I'm going back -, C*G.I21CN MILLER:
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{ l g ['. Written arguaent. Tha 2 card will consider ic, probably I j;{. overnight. I take it ther3's no need for n ruling ac to the h b ya contcncc of... how cany pcges c n there, hero? .n fl s. (Laughter.) pg Wal?., c'c loact overnight. Thank you for handing oap it up. Wa will consider that this is an crgumant me.de by you ac though you had scated it to the Board. g Undoratand now thnt*a argument. Arge'. ant deas l J not constitute svidance. When no get down to findings of i I,{ fact, and co forth, neither lini'cd appearanco ctctoments e ? nor argument: of councc1, matterc thcce kindo, constitute t ,.) 7 ovidence, which consists of exhih Ms,. testimeny a'nd the like. .a i ICt. G2W1: Mr. Chairman, may I interrupt nnd ask a t,,,. if the other parties would be getting copias of that alco? (' ,.a 4 C.~<sAIRMAH MILLER: Ch, I'm cura. Miss Bell alunys l m. 6 h ccmp.t.ica with the rcgulationc, and 2've alwcys fcund that she l ,. y t sa Il'.d:. s. ~.,, v t +-w y en t w y-r-w- g -< y new ms m - v. me # won.wr. m w m c,. n-----w-~-+swoe-w w+1ww w -e.-d r-.. -c.v---wwewr- -i--w-ww+- .e e r-- n~-~*?-
1 I ) .. 91 l19 j 2330 t a f 'di 7:cvides copies.: Icn b that trus, W.ss b il? 3 i 5 (Laughtcr.). 1 i r. .b i, ,.I ?] MS. BELL: Wall -- [ 1 - i c t b . ol CHAIRMAC MILL 1R: Or did I go tooLfar? j t 1 Jn MS. DELL: Hell, nou, actually I have to admit q H. t that one of the rea::ons why I uculd prefer to sub:ait it as 1 a 't t 4 i j my written' argument into the record, .ic that 'it would te .I I E ], e::trer.cly difficult for me te produca that in quantity for k f5 the other parties. And if it were part cf the record -~ . ( t e 1
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I agreed to consider it as being an argwT.ent. . i. s t. 4 rt l No, - this costs all of un a lot. of money. No do l I represent ta:cpayorc as well cc over"cne in the spcctrum of I nho public intorcat, and it 10 an entromely long dccument. 1 1 t Now, the Bocrd is willing to raview it.
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.i,. 1 l !? I think that in defaranca to-the Staff 8 2 request, we tculd l d-l let them hcyo the first chance to read it tenight, ove night, l n and.then pass it on to the Licanece, so that we would then - I 1 4,, have the last look r.t it.. j 4 But we are nct agreeing ec put it in the transcript / n s } n.I thct being'an expense, and wo don't think that is what you ( .~t l . i k-22 h were asking for anyway. l a-4 i I,- 3 MS. DELL:- Wall, I do think that if it Werc' in-t 1.: ~,- a { . o. the record, that it would improva the record. O. ~ ~. i V -.- [ CHAIRMAU MILLER: Wall, we appreciate the-w 1 i )i i
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~ 2551 l nel - 20' 1 -[ objectivity of your viwa. (Laughter. ) I don't believo we're going to baka it if you're (' -going to ask un to copy it into the transcript. It is very' s 2 long. If you want'to summarine it in about five or tan i j minutos ~~ and by the way, you can do thc.t wnen you're discussing'your cun propoced findings, ycu might find it t 1I convenient.to do'it that way. t, I ( Sut I think in view of it: length and the Y ' W; uncertainty that has new transpired, I think 18d like to I h raturn it to you.-- 1: u 1 12 !j (Laughter.) dr 14 :; (Document handed to Ms. Ball.) d i M !,l -- and let you surt.marize it as you wi.-h when you will, along ^ 11 15 with all the other parties and counsel, have a chance,to M } make your oral, if not urittan, presentation in closing U ;' argumonta, proposed findings., objectionc bo th's other - 6 ': r 0 19 h people s proposed findings, and the like. 8 0 19 l MS. BELL:~ All right. Thank you. 20 I.have no furthcr questions. 21 CHAIPJ".AN MILLER: Next, I guccs, is tit. Rosolic. 22 MR. ROSOLIE: Yes. 23 ; 3Y MR. n030 LID: l O Mr. Harring, on page 2 of your testimony, at the u 4 ( ': 1 25 top.of the page,you state:- u 1 ww +- ,w -<--m~-- ,3,e,,, -,...c,,,---,,,n ,,-+-o,, ..s-q., ,....r -, -e.,w..we,..c ,r%,- ,,we,-ps.- ..o,,,-,,n-,-...,w ...,,.,,,.w., .,.m,---
il j wel I' 2552 F \\ 1 J "Given that the appropriate modifications are 2 performed to assure conformance of the aquipment, 3 systems, piping and'compononts..." _(~ 4 l Are you nware of what those itedifications are?- 5' A Not specifically. G l-Q Nho at the Staff is? 7 A The Licensee has indicated in its RDC's what the G modificationk are that are required, and the NRC resident 9' inspector will make sure that those mcdifications ara 10, performed prior to restart. F 11[ Q So what you're telling me is that no ono in the t i 12 h,. NRC has done any looking into whather those RDC's are 13 appropriate or not? 14 l A,
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15[ Q And that the completion of those RCC's will be i 16 f inspected by the resident inspector at Trojan? I 17 A The NRC resident inspector. yes. ja Q If you would turn to -- and you probably don't 19 l have it -- Licensee's Exhibit 21 ~~ I l 20 A-That's the November 22 letter? i 21 0 Correct. 22 A I have it. i (m) 23 l Q Page number 9, at the top of the page, it cites 24 the 17estinghouse "t!igh Scismic" Generic Test Spectra. 25l What is the NRC's position,with thece test r i =.... - -. .2...: :
4. wal.22 2553 r 1 spectra? .9 A This has been approved for the Trojan plant as }- being acceptable. .4 I Q-Are there any qualifications en that approval? n ~ A Not to my knowledge. O .MM fis 7 3 0 9 ~ 10 9 11 12 O 14 15 16 17 18 l i 20 h', 21 s I i. k M [i f*', (,_ ' 23 .i 24 t :01 25 Ii l L.,. . = - -. -.... -. -.. - -. -.., - ~ ^ ....... :.: :: :~. '". ^
3 2554 i-p } "I E 'Z M 7 j{ ~ Mn. ZOSOLI2: I hav.a no further questions. 41 -1 n 2' 'I CHAIRMAN MILLER: Let's see -- nov, Mr. Rose. ,g 3 MR. ROSE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. .I 4 [. 3Y MR. RJSE: h .3 h Q. Mr, IIerring, on page 3, towards the last quarter of < pl the page, one of errata that you peinted ot'c - "therefore, l 3 y p' considering that building comple:t had both composite and con-l i croto walls, these stiffncss frequency incrence should p g [:l insure that 8.4 percont peak videning would exist," et cetera. l g, ij ,And I noticed that you change "would" to "chould." j l Was 'this a typographicat error? Or wac this a roficction o'f
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.jl 2 1 + 2555 1 percent, ' or have you no' ucy of' knowing that? 2 Is it more likely than not, or what? 3 A Well, they followed standard procedures, good 4 engineering judgment. Pad frun that it is hard to put a 5 confidence level, but it uas (fuite high. 6 G Well, you knew, cgain, "quita high" and "should 7 do this" and "chould do i. hat" are pratty vngue terms. What I g am trying to get at is arc we talking here about it is more g likely.than not that the 3.4 percent peak widening would exist? to Are we talking about clightly nore than a 50-50 11 shot at the thing screwing up, or are we certain enough about 12 l It to res: asy at' night? A Certain enough -- l 13 CHAITM 1 MILIL3R: I'll cuntain the objection', and 14 i 15 ' ask that that be rephrased. ~ BY MR. ROSE: 16 G Okay. How certain are ve? Are.we c:itremely 37 certain or are we just pretty sure? 18. I l A Extremely certain. i 39 G You said that basically you personally prepared 20 this. 2 : A Yes. s.9 G Thic document -- subject only to supervisory ( 25 ' j cditing perhaps; is that correct? i g I l - \\j A YOS. .,55 u j i' ii j' L{ i l ~;T-,_.,..,;~Z ;;; n _, n ;.,,,_ 1 _, __,, ; f n;,7;; n 1,; 7 7; ;,_, ; __ ,_,__-- y
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Okay. e h! Ic it true then that one of the fundenental l 10 assumptions of yours -- of the NRC Staff report is the ascunpcion that the materia.13 contained in Exhibit Ho. 31 are 12l accurate? s I C u! ^- "S - G And you did no indcpendann varification of any of j f, the dar.a that was on; plied Ec you by the Licences itself? 15 A No. l o-G Did you cuhmit thia to --- well, did you cuhmit this g -- who did you submit thic'to for approval or did you? g A. My isr2adiate supervisc: and branch chief. g G I1ho is that? g A. Immediate suptirvisor ir3 Dr. Pete 3. Liaw, and the g Branch Chief is Vincent Noonan, M-o-o-n-a-n. G~ CRayi ~ g Racallingr if you cune,what you submittod to your r 9,1 s n I ,,j zupervi.sor and to the gentleman that you referred to just now, _-. j s T u-y i-t 1 9-7p-p g =*r-r-w -*rw3 m- ++++wwt+y-te-g we p- ?-e-r weig g,-q-w-eP6*ge-- p upp g ei-- egMi1
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( the NRC Licensee acccmplishes, in tha courne of design work, 3 field work, and all the other work that is done to comply with ( 4 the comitment; isn't tha'c trr.a? -a i. tw Yes. g i G So the Mr.C Staff reliac upcn ics oita review of what 7 the Licensee has done; in that correct? l, a
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Through the Offico of Inspection and Enforcement, 7 Y*U*' I! 10 G And with respect tc your own raview, your review of ,j g. + the information that was submitted by the Licencee, it was j.,y 4 very e:ctoncive, was it not? A Yes. ,4 G That is one of the reasonc why there are [ l a,, pl l Exhibits 19, 20, 21, and 22,inatead of just Enhibit 19?
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Yes. 17 j! i Q, WTan there was information that you felt was l 10 necessary in order to be able to reach the judgment that you 19 have reached, you asked for additional information from the c Licensac? 21 1 Correct. 73 l r G And you wers satisfied that the inrormation athat l ( F.3 has been supplied to you is sufficient for the. judgments that ?A ( \\ "j you have reached? 23 4 I a I. Iid
~.. I j17 i 2560 1 i 1; '7as. N 3 j. MR. AX2LRP.D: No further quesI:. ions. n 1 ' h 3f CHAIRMAti MILLER: Dr. Pa:10n? al EXAMINATION BY THE BOARD i .nI BY DR. PAXTON: ~t e g, G My qucnticn is about tne standards that the Staff -} normally uses to judge qualification, a seismic qualification i 3 of equipment, piping and so forth. g I am spedcing generally r.ow. L You would like to ?tnow which -- what is the g
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ji 8 2561 f' I 3 1 in somewhat more detail here, because -- than usual.bacause of 2 special -- of the special situation that confronts us? 3 A Well, in this situation there are wider spectra e than you would nornally faco for a plant founded on a rock a site due to the stiffness and potential for stiffn.ess g 6 degradations and so forth. 7 DR. PAXTO!!: Thank you. BY C11AIRWJ4 MILLER: 3 9 G Mr. Harring, there were a ceries of questions propounded by the Staff -- the technical staff to the Licenses 10 in this caso -- regarding the floor response spectra, were 1; there not? 33 't
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i i l I ,;.. _0 .;:.o l 1 in the varf.,.120 a:Inuittnia - tndar na cire,ntatancos of thiu i i 2 p::2sent phaan one c" cur.ma.rin'1, ifnich nra 231abad, as ycu n( ) 'O 3 x.n o u, Lo i:he quoution of cha eedety t'f intorin oporation Of thi: 4 plante pending the precerca:icu and approval or nonapproval of r 5 l.?mpo nod icationa, '.;2at a n:uranco acan uhis Daard and does 6 o . ';.ne pito.,.2.c na 7e v. nnu v..no a 0.o. -.2 I'.cac.onc anlon vou nave decerix1d I t ~ ,aa being an.nroprzin::n nnd v'.;ing -- ening ne a given that thav i I will be performed -- to ecmure.the acmpliance of these - g I aquipment cynter.c e.nd tha like with tho describsd spectra? n - n, e it. The Licznsee daas have an approvoi. QR.QC program. gj i 3 7. J 0 What are the lactars? n l,, bi A. Quality Maurrice acta cuality Control. a 1 Additionally, d a NHC doas have th Offico of f] 13 ,V i ] Lupocti n and EndorcomIna, which is rasponsible for the revieu ),, i, i oi any documnts generato.n intarnally to ?C3. 1,s. h. ,2 Do you know -- and s ir may not he in your schore, ., o,. D. ' ac I suppcaa export concu2.cnt to Mr. Grcy -- do you hnew of , _', g n i .3 t, any proposea licenre cond.itions or ord.ers that bear upon or o. 19,l rcla.: 2 to accurance that the apercariate r.odifications will be c I. performed in connecticn with any propoued intarim operation? g Co -- do you hs.ve anything to d'o with that, or is g i Unhat Mr. Cray's are2? 22 c gh Ycu c?.n bC ' '^ #irut whether *;cu have anything to b;, J n to wich.4.t or any,-:.newledco cr it, anc enen ::o V:.1.:. ack ror e n n q l133.81.COS$'aion Of thG Stadd 'Dy litaff conn!:Ol. / a i 11c 4 'h i
-3, ,y 1 ,b 2564 i 1i 3. Could you juct nah ma 2ch one more tinta, plue.re? ?. j G -Yes.- I an ading bhether you,. as the representative-D ? ~,Q - 3 [( of the NEC Technical S taff, 'hti.m given ' any con 3ideratica to i i; - i {_' 4il'proposedconditionsoranalifyinghermsinany;cuggastodorder, g Sf bearing upon ' interim operaticn - if that ha considarod by 0 j'. the Soard -- which in any way raslaten to limits or cias acun I 1 7..; this question of the parfoi.vaanca, in fact., of the appropriata .,1 l a l' modificationc that you hava described pa pago 2 in connoction 9hwitn,.orlintsdwith,proposedinterimcperaticnof,thaTrojan .a jo plant. n! A. I have had disliussions with the ?roject Manager as li g,ll far as ccming uo with a craliminary order that nculd modify tno O 0 oceratine license. V m,, j u y jj G Ara you in a position -- I don't men tc go into J 'l C s tschnien). oporations of the Staff or anything ycu might p1 3 ! rogard as privileged,. even in tho slightect Gonch cut are you ! I g-
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- i, i ., O, A. %e cusuostion was to reference the No'ranSer 22nd ,o i it i: p" !i - - snd it is sna pf the ether submittale,,whatev2r modifica-ll .} 0.;f' tions that the. Gicencan has comitted to, that they be c I I-i, performed prior to reswaption of operation of the r.: actor. [ ,c. 4 n a p, y G And have you discucsed that with counsal? p i-CHAIRMAN MILLER: I am. going to ask Mr. Gray now to l g y b giva the Staff the couani positien on that. /! s". 'Or a / Ucra you covered your involverent in thar.? t;! k! u _... i, . ~._. - - ~
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I!! MR. GRAY; Mr. Chc:.rman, cho Staff han 'creparad' -- H t 1 2l1 ahead of_ time, I must admit -- ac2a proposed findings for this 3 } phcce of the proceeding, which wo intend to auhnits written. I
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( 1 e b 3 [q proposed hhe first time, and *:.his wculd include an additional ih c y condition of propcoing r. hat those modification be performed 4 7 prior to.ho time tha interim operation vould begin, if, in ti g i fact, it is parmitted. I i h In additione.:. ahonid point out that we have been 9 i 4 10[ i n contact with the resident inspector on our own, rsgardless I I of what ultimately ccmc cut, to ncccre that he will follow up j;
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cn the ncdificatienc ascure that tha prepar internal docum2nta " e tion and so on '. ras done and that the modifications are 13 implemanted. g ,5[ CHAIIBmN MILLI!R: Shat will than be the aubject i gl both of any proposed modifications t:o order or additions to i i .,i, prcpocod findings cf ract's anc. conclusions of 1r 7, and maybe u t thct'may be addressed by the Staff'at the conclusion of tnis 13 I hearing whan we nok for closing discussion by counsel. 39,i 20 ; MR. GnAY: Yes, thct is correct. 1 ~1j c!mmmN' MILLER: TU:n't you. MR. DANKS: Mr. Chhirman, this mi ht be an appropri- ? 22. 3 cts tim -- nico, -I wanted; hafore the evening.wca.3ct, to b-23 t clarify 'the question the chali asked, and I think it was con- ,,., a s- }! . i.d carning Dr. -- that it was concarning Dr. McCollom en these 65. I i l h 3' b, 4 g +3 i .---g.---y,w ,e s -y .r*-T4 y eT-- '-uw+ - - we T- - * " zu, e e- -4's-P-w-*-th-c se
$1 13 2566 1 modificatione. t 2 Now, I am juct addreccing myssif to E::hibits 2 /' 3 through 5, which are the RDO modifications, many of which are 4 involved ir. the modificationc which are required as a result {- 5' of this floor responso crectrn testimony, no the record is S clear, and I think this is clear from what Mr. Anderson testi-7 fied to, but it may not have pome out tco clearly. s I think the record shcald show that all of the RDCs g en these exhibitc -- and those are all of them - all of I 10 those RDCs have passed the design phace, and they have. passed jj c11 of the revitu phasco at PGF., and they he.73 all been-12 raleased to the field to be iirolamented. 33 It is my undcratanding that approximatoly 20 percent of them have besn implemented in the field, and it is my 14 understanding, from what Mr. Andorson testified to, that the 33 IS c::pactations are that since all that is left to be done now is the field work, is th:t. the field work will be accomplished 37 i by the 20th of this month. gg All of the paper work,; all of the E chup work -- gg that is all done. Everything has been released to the field, 20 i and the work is in progress; and the 20 percent I am talking f 21 about is the 20 percent of the actual work in progress. It may' i 2, be even slightly higher than that now, but we do expsct, hope-l ^ 23 b ully, to hava that all done by the 20th of this month. 24 Y*"* 25 I _.-_m .__7.-
I-t a.. 9 1 a.= g., , +, ..t l 1, e ME.'EOBE: Mr. Chair.vr., in. cou~.2cl tastiriying to i e Sose mattsrn? ( 4 sy CHAI?l!Mi HZLLER: Ea is c2 king rec.rocentationa to j ~ the Ecard, I uculd canune. s. [ MR. ROSE: Wall, 9 rhaps it would be'Essirabia-to inquire of a I/ ember - c re*orccontative of ti1e. Licences -- as. l 2
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to those metters that ntrer, ret.ranntad to the 2 card at this. i y i tima; and:I cm cc a loca to think of preci.cely who, but { parhaps that might bc sonsthing the Deard wculd consider since g, 3 counsel has.mado thece rapresentations, f j -~ MR. SmmS: Well, I was just attempting to ansuer [ .i 1,. t tha 2 card's c.usctiens. faere cartainly would he no affort to I' 4 inhibit anybcdy who would like to inquire of the appropriato i J puracn for that information btchuse dey are hora. 3 1 4 CHAI2tLTi MILLER: Tho Doard did ack to be brought { s up to dcto en those natters, the p esent status, inc?.uding the i i propoced mcdificationc and the lika. If you want to call the u'itness, you may. j + 1 i Wo b"ill paus en that for the moment. ( MR. ROSE: 3 l MR. ROSOLIS: Mr. Chairman. / ! CHAIRET MILL 2R: Yes. o MR. n3SOLIE: Thera acams, to me, a discrepancy, and 1 .~ z ('- I don't knew how to deal with this icsue, cinca councel is '. presenting ens thing and the rccord reflacts anothar thing. It; ,.s. 7 ' io m.y roccliectic that the ucople frcm 3echtel said there was 'i J.
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'ir. Chairman, I may anglain.that a .(I ij, great deal of the clips ura added to -- that cre added to the 3 'I small pipoc are all included ?ithin a single RDC, and I balieve 1 I -r , Mr. Bcnkc was rafarring to'the total nuncer of suo..norts and. modifications and additiona. tie.t doesn't aibe one fcr one i 3 2 i e . it 3 4., with the ' number.of ECC3, because an ECC can incitdo rany clips. q-i
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4 1 the control building itself or to the shear walls which would t . m 'in any way affect, or advarsaly, the cais:cic capabilicy. l Ithinkthatthe3 card,inviewofitcrecponsibili-} 8 i t . ties, in terms of public intsrest, has sought to k,eep itself L r j! informed,andbynodoingtoseitha': all the partias ware ' ~ ~ y ~ hinfornsdnototheperfor:aanceofworkasaresultofvarious } 1 caudies that were tectifi2d tc ct the lasc portion of tho 2 t E } " honring and thia ::;o that all of uc would know uhat has been ( v 4 t. 7 iyt* e 3 tew - t e c. g ,,p-7mp,,.g,. ,,y,-, .--niygy.9 e .%.TfrM"T' P'*"='T w#u8e*"
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+; r5 i 2569 done. We Uculd to able to nacartain thtt i:ha war.'c under-s ca.kan would not in any way affact tha caismi'c capability of 9-( the. shear walla or the buildinga at the Trojan plant. Ws hava : b7.en handling that'in terne of chr Doard respcnsibility in - termo of the public -interost. tic do. lot ragard that as being [ 1 y s controvarted mettre,5/nich ic uny the Board has ached counssi). t d . ";-- or, indeed, will ask any partias who have knowledge or 1' ' . a... tot i ,.tl information concidoring the matter to keep tho Bodrd informed. n d ,p W don't ragard that, therefora, as an evidentinry { t g t L mattar and an advarcary procaeling in nhat senco. c 3 Ocwever, thic does not maan that if you flave any i.. ti e decire to call witnessac cr put en avidence, you may determine 1 ,i n;' for yourac1ves or seek to infor:n the Scard in any rcasonabis i .e t ..b way of the aituation;if, indeed, thera is any rancen to cuppose l that any Worit has bean parformed rogarding tha chsar valls f lj which in any way ic contrary to the ccnditionc uat up in the s May 26th order or deenad to bc ecutinued by thic Socrd, wa a
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jl 17 2570 ycu are invited ce coma ':o.wa;;d and stace it, or to securo l 2 its being stated. l ,s ( MR. ROSOL.EC: My concorn, Mr. Chcirman,was the -a z ability of the plenu to - and ! think that is t/nat is at - 4 isano here -- the ability of the plant to safoly chut down a 5 during an occurronco of a solumic event. That's what the RDCs-- - ..o CHAIRMAN LCLLER: Well, t.ut is vfnat we have .,r had the evidenca on -- and dependent on the 5SE. yes, that is o a diffarent catagery, Mr. Rosolie, and I ak not talking about that. I am talking aboun the present work that has to be done g in any way as a result of the 2DCs or otherwise, which"would affect the as-built acismic capabilities of the control. I building, which ough : to remain as ia, p:enling decision of g ( ij this Loard by Tucaday, and, one, whether or not intarim ,4 i 1-i operation can safely ho conducted. 13 i I And regardlcos of our dacision on that, what 1:5 ';; ,l n:difid:ations cro nccascary, their appropricane33 and scope 17 in torte; cf :ublic safety. i I Thece are the two taatto'rc, and those are the only 19 l i 23 ' two mattorc that' are tho juricdictional charge of chis Board. h Na do intand to lock at anything that might affect l 21 g them. He hava tried to make uhis plain to you. We will maka f 20 [! l l l cH tl5 -! it plain to you new. I 23 d \\ I 1 6 i 4,.. _~ m m___._ m -.. ~ -e-
f. 2571 Tlii 1_ If "cu have got an:,r evidence of any kind-:2garding Fra S. any-changsu z.ffecting the seiemic ccpabilicy cf the control f- .V 2 building, bring it to the attention ofsthis 3 card. I (?- 4 Do it now : f you know of any, because this is a
S matter of public safety, this is a matter of the orders of 4
5 the'NRC Staff and of this Board, t Any information to the contrary, we will undertake 9 it new or at.any tim 2, frankly, because this does affect y g public safety and this is a m*.itter of ongoing respencibility. m I will give.you a chance to'think about it over-y, ' night. We will be addressing this toraorrow. If there are { p, any matters of this cind we want to know about it. That's O j"o our job. t p; All right., I think nou -- I'm sorry, had you concluded? 15 MR. GRAY: The Board was in the process: of g questioning. ..a. (Laughter.) .v g CHAIRM.RN MILLER: Thenk you, Mr. Herring. You are g / dismissed. ,m. a (Witness excused.) j g ' CHAIRMAN MILLER: A2e there any other matters 3 before we receris for the day, since wo do have things that (v -~. the parties and counsel vill be want'ing to attend to at l; & "'i ! N1 the session tomorrow morning at 9 o' clock -- i j, ~> / I il m - - ~
4 2572 t i - I l mm2 MR. ROSE: Thank you. I have one short bockkeeping 2 matter. l.O, l 3 As the Board tiill recall, just before our afternoon [ h 4 break, Ms. Bell made a motion on the need for power. She made ~l 4 5 a written motion. But apparently from speaking to the 6 reporter, apparently 11: was never -- the Board denied the 7 motion before it wa's fomally made for the record, I suppose. ' 6 CIUsIRMAN MILL 2R: The Board denied it when it was 9 p stated and the document.tas waived around by Ms. Bell, which 10 I then invited her to hand out. 11 But if there is any question in anybody's mind 12 this motion cral'or written is denied. 13 MR. ROSE: Well I just wanted to make sure that 14 the motion was made prior to its denial. 15 CHAIRMAN MILL 2R: It was. 16 MR. ROSE: Thank you, t 17 I have no problems then. ij 18 CHAIRMAN MILLER: Anything else that any of the r i j. 19 parties or counsel wish to take up at'this time? I l 'O (No sresponse) l 21 If not, we will stand in recess until 9 o' clock 22 tomorrow morning. It may we bc--we seem to be making good = f 23 progress in our evidentiary record and it may well be'that 4-e m 24 your concluding arguments, all written proposed findings and e ( y' A i I -25 the like, will be ready to be received by us with interest.

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- _ = _.. 7 2573 i' nm3 1 If there is nothing further we wi".1 recess until .9 o' clock. \\ ! n - 'a-j (Whereupon, at 4:10 p.m., the hearing in the t $ h.) - above-entitled matter was recessed, to msume at 9:00 a.m. t* on Tuesday, 12 December, 1978.) 1 a. 7 i.;. 3 1: i p 9 !1 V 'I 10 [ 11 } *) e id ,l,') 13 16 OI 18 + 19 ,v ,u E.O 4 21 e 22 .I t t o ).O 13 4 as ' -i. I i i -3 .-~v .}}

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