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Proposed Corrections to Transcript of 850430-0503 Evidentiary Hearings on Issue 8 Re Hydrogen Control.Aslb Should Issue Order Directing Record Be Amended to Incorporate Change
ML20128G839
Person / Time
Site: Perry  FirstEnergy icon.png
Issue date: 07/01/1985
From: Glasspiegel H
CLEVELAND ELECTRIC ILLUMINATING CO., SHAW, PITTMAN, POTTS & TROWBRIDGE
To:
Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Panel
References
CON-#385-725 OL, NUDOCS 8507090336
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Docket Nos. 50-4400L-BRANCH ILLUMINATING COMPANY, ET AL.

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50-441

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(Perry Nuclear Power Plant,

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Units 1 and 2)

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APPLICANTS' PROPOSED TRANSCRIPT CORRECTIONS Applicants hereby propose that the attached changes be made to the transcript of the evidentiary hearings held in the above-captioned proceeding on April 30 - May 3, 1985 concerning Issues No. 8 (hydrogen control), in order to correct material errors made in the transcription.

Applicants request that the Licensing Board issue an order directing that the evidentiary record be amended to incorporate said changes.

Respectfully submitted, ANY W

Jay E.

S Sberg, P.C.

U Harry H /Glasspiegel SHAW, PITTMAN,_POTTS & TROWBRIDGE 0507090336!!bo440 1800 M Street, N.W.

PDR ADOCK PDR Washington, D.C.

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(202) 822-1000 Counsel for Applicants Dated:

July 1, 1985 33c3

O TRANSCRIPT CORRECTIONS PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3212 4, passim RICHARD JOHN 3213 17 Mr. Frank Sted Mr. Frank Stead 3218 10 resading reading 3218 16 the rest of minor the rest are of a minor 3229 18 in material and material 3230 25 process to applicants process which applicants 3234 12 of the rule of the testimony 3234 20 the set out they set out 3235 12, passim Classics III CLASIX 3 3235 20 Hitatt Hiatt 3236 5

service level B service level D 3236 20 level C limit level C limits 3237 8

stentence sentence 3237 23 corss cross 3238 20-21 5044 C.3, Roman Numeral 50.44(c)(3)(vi)(B)(3)

VI, B3 3242 7

ASMI ASME 3242 10 thpes types 3242 21 Fiar Fair 3244 4

qualifiactions qualifications 3246 9

referringf referring 3246 15 Manger Manager 3246 22 One is area One area a

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3246 25 also involves also involved 3247 25 Licenning Licensing 3248

' 21 anlayses analyses 3249 6

concentartions concentrate 3249 21 blow plug glow plug 3249 23 as you said as I said 3250 6

pressures that results pressure that result 3250 9

evlauntion evaluation

~3250 13 safety accomodate safely accomodate 3250 15 Riochardsc..

Richardson 3251 17-18 It would ignite before It did ignite it goes up 3253 4

Manger Manager 3253 9

the ultimate capacity the Ultimate Capacity report Report 3253 11 That report, in mid-1981 In mid 1981 3254 4

penetration 144 penetration 414 3255 5

1060 1960 3155 20 also familair also familiar 3255 21, passim Hector HECTR 3256 14-16 Our group developed our group developed a a fundamental fundamental understand-understanding and ing of properties, what properties, what propagation values propagation values increased turbulence increase turbulence can give, can give, 3256 15 values increase values increased 3256 21 since time time since that time

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PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3256 22 exposive explosive 3258 3

and the we were involved in 3258 4

possible and possible 3259 7

obligation application 3261 19 March 15, 1985 Order March 14, 1985 Order 3262 6

ol to 3265 13 r.ero point two percent 0.2%

3265 15-16 to six point 6.72%

seven two percent 3266 5

Mr. Hiatt Ms. Hiatt 3266 14 eleven point seven two 11.72 3266 20 Do you -ant Do you want 3267 4

FOI FOIA 3271 3

to pose to propose 3271 10-11 pressure capacity pressure capacity containment of the containment 3271 14 direction and inspection erection and inspection 3271 14 providions provisions 3271 25 establish which establish the 3272 2

release of radioactive release of radioactive release of material material 3272 11 and as a design limit and at a design limit for -- as established as established 3272 16 through -- leakage to prevent leakage 3273 1

rate pressure rated pressure 3273 5

enclosure closure bolts, bolts.,

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3273 12 pre-torque pre-torque 3273 19 stating citing 3274 15 could not be increased.

could not be increased, It was it was 3274 18 in this session in this section 3275 7,12 Smith Gleason 3275 12 Richardson Alley 3275 16 plant flanges 3276 16 Certain Certainly 3277 12 prolemeric polymeric 3277 12 etholene propolene ethylene, propylene 3277 14 polomer elastimeric polymer elastomeric 3277 14 on the degrees of highness of the highness 3278 3

during the legnth during the life 3278 8

requirment requirement 3278 13 thermo thermal 3278 16 requirments requirements 3278 23 cosidered considered 3280 13 whether those where those 3280 21 event, they exceed event are expected in the two the two 3284 1

yeild yield 3284 9

give given 3286 6

material will material which will 3286 9

and allowable in allowables.

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3286 18 to at 3288 9

presumptions assumptions 3289 23 I do not all the top I do not off the top 3291 11 on page 12 on page 212 3292 25 welds to being them welds to bring them 3295 9

effect attest affect attempts 3301 8

NNICRT NWICo RT 3306 5

wetwall wetwell 3306 5

depredations deflagrations 3306 19, passim Case of A K sub A 3307 2

K of I K sub I 3309 12 perogative prerogative 3312 19 Case K

3313 13 annulous annulus 3313 13 concrete for concrete or 3314 6

annulous annulus 3314 6

cylinderical cylindrical 3314 7

maridianal meridional 3314 16,20 stiffnsrs stiffeners 3315 17 Rich Mayo Rich Schmehl 3316 9

alone is the cause is low because 3316 10 stiffness stiffeners 3316 19 OCRA's OCRE's 3316 24 having burns hydrogen burns 3317 24-25 already going to afraid you would -.

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3319 8

by doing about doing 3321 12 in excess below 3323 5

estimate estimated 3323 15 law flair 3323 15 law flaw 3324 15 At times are At times there are 3325 5, passim hydrogen deprodations hydrogen deflagrations 3325 19 poor short 3326 11 supplied applied 3332 12-He is going He is doing 3332 14 line questions line of questions 3334 12 50.44 C-3/4-B 50.44(c)(3)(iv)(B) 3334 23 50.44 C-3/5-3 50.44(c)(3)(v)(A) 3336 9

aren't are 3337 1

deflagration detonation 3337 3

sort short 3338 6

evluated evaluated 3339 18 much higher level much lower level 3339 20 lower higher 3340 8

that Mr. Alley's of Mr. Alley's 3340 8

is incompetent as incompetent 3341 11 industry in industry as 3341 13 evaluations evaluation 3342 1

undermine determine 3346 3

lithium little w

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3346 6

of the more penetration of the controlling penetration 3346 17 psi increase ksi increase 3350 10 Mosar Bosar 3351 5

troubling region controlling region 3353 19 there code there is code 3355 1

document that is document is 3357 4

conducts contours 3357 10 siad said 3358 10 of the plastic range of the elastic range 3358 22 taken for taken to 3361 9, passim Von Myses Von Mises 3362 7, passim inflatable shields inflatable seals 3362 18 design case design basis 3362 25 NUREG CR 2855 NUREG/CR 3855 3364 22 to the example to the 3364 23 with a touch of touch of 3364 23 asked Ms.

asks Ms.

3367 20

wehther, whether 3368 1

inflatted inflated 3368 4, passim inflattable inflatable 3369 7

I cann't I can't 3370 21 sequences that event sequences or scenarios that 3370 22 about about event 3371 19 energey energy 1

a PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3373 8

oint point 3374 15 testing with testing when cubjected subjected 3375 1

qualifiaction qualification 3375 9

hearing nearing 3375 17 Tables 561 and 562 Tables 5.6-1 and 5.6-2 3378 8

precluded concluded 3379-80 12 in excess of a in excess of the limiting limiting 3379-80 13 expectred to be expected to be 3383 la NUREG CR 2529 NUREG/CR 2549 3395 1

James F. Bastello James F. Costello 3396 23 FOI FOIA 3397 6

for Ms. Buzzelli for Ms. Hiatt 3402 6

Thomas Blayliss Thomas Blejwas

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3404 19 direction correction 3405 18 HAITT HIATT 3405 19 walk airlock 3405 20 capapcity capacity 3409 6

would you would your 3413 12 sinece since 3416 20 on welds on walls

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ingegrity integrity 3421 19 it needs there needs 3422 13 though you thought you 3423 13 50.44(c)(3)(5)(a) 50.44(c)(3)(v) (A) 4 ~

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3424 13 evaluted evaluated 3424 24 to them to to them and to 3425 11 basis is basis accidents is 3427 4

Does the Has the 3427 8

procecures procedures 3428 15 blackout is blackout as 3428 17 power, correct onsite power, both onsite and and offsite offsite 3428 23 up the showing the up the showing showing 3428 24 preliminary analyses preliminary analysis 3428 24 final analyses final analysis 3429 15 plans plants 3430 8

contest of the text context of the test 3430 12 I may agree I made agreeing 3430 24 dealth death 3437 14 camble cable 3438 3

insolation isolation 3440 7, passim frame flame 3440 12 Montrael Montreal 3440 25 loss lowest 3443 23 be fore be for 3449 6, passim seal end seal in 3452 20 tests steps 3453 12, passim exchange even exchanger 3454 7

may would

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PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3455 4

you have you don't have 3455 15 dropped trapped 3455

'18 bzck back 3455 24 AC RCIC 3456 21 npa npsh 3457 4

condenser condensate 3457 5

HPSI HPCS 3457 18 report reports 3457 18 limit limits 3458 23 codes curves 3459 2

hearing heading 3459 12 gravitate cavitate 3460 5

gravitate cavitate 3460 16 245 pre-cool 245* pool 3460 20 mpsh npsh 3460 22 suctional suction of the 3461 10 possitive positive 3461 15 by-pressure high pressure 3462 4

emply employ 3462 10 SYGNA CYGNA 3462 11 sunction suction 3462 22 designer design or 3468 24 aggitation agitation 3469 9

heighter height 3470 24 analysis analyses d

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where the

, where it is acceptable for the 3471 2

as demonstrated bounded 3471 10 Management Methodology 3471 5, passim RSMAP RSSMP 3472 11 purpose purpose 3477 7

in containment and containment 3478 3

but Event I but in the event it 3478 20 cooling core cooling 3479 1

speciality specialty 3480 1

that is that his 3482 22 through to 3484 1

loccalized localized 3489 16 (Continauing)

(Continuing) 3490 7

falling pool flow forward pool swell 3493 3

Perry plant program plan 3493 11 the the HCOG 3493 14 does does does i

3493 15, passim drywall, drywell 3493 15 introductions interactions 3494 2

task tasks 3494 5

mainly mainly combining the 3495 3

owners groups owners in the owners' group 3495 17 brake case break case 3497 1

release relief ~

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3497 3

purged purge 3497 11 graded rated 3497

' 21 of or 3502 4

Case Page 3502 16 code cone 3502 21 type pipe 3502 22 code cone 3504 24 evaluations evaluation 3506 19 asmuth azmuth 3510 14 hard hand 3514 19 Barry Shot Gary Shott l

3515 23 assembly experiment 3517-3518 4 adiobatic adiabatic 3520 4

comparable competent 3520 16 ignitable ignitible 3523 21 all old 3523 25 detonation range detonation 3523 25 propogate propagate 3524 1

the way by the way 3524 12-13 Petrol.

Petrol or TNT Tetryl.

Tetryl or are that strength of TNT are high strength explosives explosives 3524 15 detonation into detonation a--

3526 3

Gene Guenther

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into from I s

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3527 3

and to 3527 6

has have 3528 16-17 he also used, not he also used, not hydrogen but, propane hydrogen, but propane and air as a form of and air mixture a mixture 3535 15 that that is 3535 25 condensate condense 3540 17 forgotten forgot 3540 19 percent orders percent, order 3541 12 combustion combustion 3541 23 Fels Fuls 3542 7

light right 3542 11 "T"

"P" 3542 23, passim Marsh MARCH 3545 5, passim IMPEL CONTEMPT-LT 3545 25 import input 3547 24, passim Penwall Fenwal 3548 18, passim Hector HECTR 3549 1

tempera.turs temperatures 3549 11 increasing decreasing 3549 16 welwall wetwall 3549 20 6-89 689 3551 20 Feel We feel 3552 1, passim fusion diffusion 3552 6

cnoducting conducting -

PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3552 19 standing diffusion standing diffusion standing diffusion 3555 8

simply simple 3557 15 one in ten one tenth 3559 16 fluses and estrapolate fluxes and extrapolate 3559 19 methodlegies methodologies 3560 3

what in the 1/4 scale facility what 3560 12 did you Mr. Karlovitz did you or Mr. Karlovitz 3561 2

level out come level outcome 3561 7

entering entraining 3561 14 of particularly particularly 3562 8

angular annular 3563 14 put a 747 into a 747 put a 747 3563 17 turbine turbulence 3563 25 Froud Froude 3564 9

order or 3574 4

loop liquid 3578 2

Not It is not 3578 3

possibility survivability 3578 14-15 drywell containment drywell and containment 3579 5

Whay?

What?

3579 2,

19 sheaths seats 3579 24 high high of 3580 8

sheet seat 3581 7

Diffusion Flames a

1 PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3582 2-3 etholene, propalene ethylene, propylene dyamene diamene 3582 4

Pethra Presray Corporation 3582 7

an erraneous equation an Arrhenius equation 3583 5

We really manufacture We reviewed manufactures' 3583 6

mating surfaces because mating surfaces.

Because 3503 11 mean lower mean and lower 3584 1

finally report final report 3584 6

necessary that we necessary to show that we 3586 1

35 psig 45 psig 3586 25 penetration four one penetration 414.

four.

3588 9,

22 C-3-4-B (c)(3)(iv)(B) 3588 25 C-3-4 (c)(3)(iv) 3590 18 15 psi 50 psi 3591 6

touchness toughness 3592 24 you knowledge your knowledge 3593 1,7 annulous annulus 3594 2

one is was one was 3594 12 inforamtion information 3596 3

NCR 17-426 NR 17-426 3596 12 79 KSI 79 psi 3596 20 region is limited region is limiting 3598 4

non linear non-linear 3601 3

a less at least 3605 25 recoverable 4 recoverable full PAGE LINE NOW REA05 SHOULD READ 3606 16 L-P-C-I, LPSC, L-D-S-C L-P-C-I, LPCS, L-P-S-C 3609 23 containing containment 3610 13 restore power even even restore power 3612 11 anumber a number h612 20 pressure suppression 3613 17 exchanges axchangers 3615 10 not -- it not -- if 3616 6

peak varies peak temperature occurs 3616 21 He had all of his He had openings -- he has all of his 3616 23 propogation propagation 3616 24 calulatiaons calculations 3617 5

baffels baffles 3617 6

propogated propagated 3617 14 as the hatch stobs a'nd as the glow plug the glow plug 3619 11 CA DBA 3620 12 volume --

volume extinguishing compound 3620 23 program'has program have 3623 24 ceiling sealing 3624 13 scale scaled 3625 15 With respect Q.

With respect 3627 2

tests, first tests are not the same.

First 3627 11 would expect would not expect n

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PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3628 13 controlled system control system

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3628 15 are hugh are huge 3629 6

bypass I guess bypase 3629 14 occurred of occurred to 3630 19 MARCH MARC 3631 2

My Hiatt Ms. Hiatt 3633 12 loop LCOP 3634 21 some sound 3634 23 turbulent, involved.

turbulent.

3635 1

rate wave 3637 17 is the low is of low 3639 19, passim Fenwall Fenwal 3639 24 room bomb 3640 1

respected --

respected company 3640 2

room bomb 3642 8

loccations locations 3642 20 reevaluating re-evaluating 3643 18 might might change 3649 11 igiter' igniter 3660 19 initially -- however, initially -- however 3661 3

else since 3663 9

specified specifies 3663 9

is as 3663 10, passim iodide iodine 3663 10 sesium cesium

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PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3663 23 scenareo scenario 3663 25 them from 3664 7

Reference Referring to 3664 9

procecure procedure 3664-13 A Yes.

A (Buzzelli) yes.

3673 20 VonElby von Elbe 3674 6

Mr. Notagrancesco's Mr. Notafrancesco's 3678 3

them to shortly them to me shortly 3681 3,7 (OCRE Exhibit No. 8, (OCRE Exhibit No. 18 3682 4

from Mr. Dalwyn to Mr. Dalwyn 3686 9,17 The DVA The DBA 3690 20 was to duplicate were to duplicate 3698 17 industry the industry the industry 3698 17 heat core IDCOR 3698 17 map code Maap code 3711 18 youy have you have 3713 15 depends no depends on 3715 11 OCRE Exhibit No. 8 OCRE Exhibit No. 24 3721 24 reserva'trions reservations 3727 8

one six area one six eight area 3727 18 and whether in your and in your 3727 19 opinion these results opinion do these results 3730 7

Mr. Young Mr. Juang 3730 22 Reference 4 Reference 14 3730 23 a program 2 unit Pilgrim Unit 2.

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PAGE LINE NOW READS SHOULD READ 3733 1

defect weld defective welds 3733 4

Defect Defective 3733 13 that the way that by the way 3734 16, passim Fenwall Fenwal 3734 16, 20 Teflon teflon 3741 16 we could feel we could see 3746 20 Various tests done various tests are done 3747 9

combusting combustion 3749 14 LOCA occur 3752 9

Support Group.

Support Group at Perry.

3755 21 jsut just 3756 12 detemrined determined 3759 11 inforamtion information 3760 1

contruing construing Qualifications Author of five books-Editor of five books of Bernard Lewis (following Tr.

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THE CLEVELAND ELECTRIC

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Docket Nos. 50-440 ILLUMINATING COMPANY, ET AL.

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50-441

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(Perry Nuclear Power Plant,

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Units 1 and 2)

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE This is to certify that copies of the foregoing "Appli-cants' Proposed Transcript Corrections" were served by deposit in the United States Mail, First Class, postage prepaid, this 1st day of July, 1985, to all Lhose on the attached Service List.

A YYy Harry H./Glasspiegel

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION BEFORE THE ATOMIC SAFETY AND LICENSING BOARD In the Matter of

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THE CLEVELAND ELECTRIC

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Docket Nos. 50-440 ILLUMINATING COMPANY

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50-441

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(Perry Nuclear Power Plant,

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Units 1 and 2)

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SERVICE LIST

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James P. Gleason, Chairman Atomic Safety and Licensing 513 Gilmoure Drive Appeal Board Panel Silver Spring, Maryland 20901 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Washington, D.C.

20555 Mr. Jerry R. Kline Docketing and Service Section Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Office of the Secretary U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Washington, D.C.

20555 Washington, D.C.

20555 Mr. Glenn O. Bright Colleen P. Woodhead, Esquire i

Atomic Safety and Licensing Board Office of the Executive Legal U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Director Washington, D.C.

20555 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Washington, D.C.

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Christine N. Kohl, Chairman Atomic Safety and Licensing Terry Lodge, Esquire Appeal Board Suite 105 U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission 618 N. Michigan Street Washington, D.C.

20555 Toledo, Ohio 43624 i

Dr. W. Reed Johnson Donald T. Ezzone, Esquire Atomic Safety and Licensing Assistant Prosecuting Attorney Appeal Board Lake County Administration U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Center j

Washington, D.C.

20555 105 Center Street Painesville, Ohio 44077 Gary J. Edles, Esquire Atomic Safety and Licensing Atomic Safety and Licensing Appeal Board Board Panel

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U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Washington, D.C.

20555 Washington, D.C.

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John G. Cardinal, Esquire Ms. Sue Hiatt Prosecuting Attorney 8275 Munson Avenue Ashtabula County Courthouse Mentor, Ohio 44060 t

Jefferson, Ohio 44047

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