ML20126K097

Testimony of League of Woman Voters of Greater York on Behalf of Anti-Nuclear Group Representing York.Concerns Municipal & School Emergency Planning.Related Correspondence

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From:	Hilliard J, Miller A, Ryscavage M ANTI-NUCLEAR GROUP REPRESENTING YORK
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. TESTIMONY OF TE LEAGUE OF WMI.9 VOTERS CN YCRK COUNTY Bru.3E!;CY ?! A:

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Summa:7 of Testireny i

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Testittny of Mary Ryscavage, Arlene Miller, and Tudith Hillitrd I

Update (April 17,1981) cf the Evacuatien Study

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Tables:

j Municipal Plan Status of York County p10 a of the Update Table of Scheel Flans fcr Ycrk County p13 a of the Update i

Fcilev-up Questicns te Schec' i

Superintendents in Ycrk Ccunty p16 a of the Update

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Questiens Fosed to Eus Centracters p16 b cf the Update Appendix A I

l Summary cf the Ycrk league of Vccen Veters' Study cf l

Evacuation Planning cf Ycrk Ccunty for TMI

(! cvember 14 (Distributed te the Ecard and perties en March 3',1C89.7,1980) 4 l

1 Appendix B Statement of Mrs. Phyllis Nelson, President of the League of Women Voters of Greater Yerk, given before the Atetic Safety

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and Licensing Board en March 31, 1981.

Transcript pps. 16,788-16,795 Appendix C Contacts for Schoc1 Summaries 11/19/80 & 4/17/81 Appendix D Qualificatiens cf Dr. Mary Ryscavage, Mrs. Alene Miller, and Mrs. Judith

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Summary of Testimony The League of Wemen Voters of Greater York reviewed evacuatien plans at the municipal level to leart. of their present status and to see they are made optimally adequate to ensure the protec;1cn of the public's health and safety.

We found of tne 14 municipalities within the 10. mile EP, onc

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g had no coordinator. Six hao completed their pfans", four will seen.

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One had no plan, one has barely started and two are not close to

.}h completien. The plans that exist are nodels of a model plan develcred by Kline and Knopf, a CPU-hired consultant firm. In some areas, this ple.n doesn't conform with NUREO 0654 and specifics are listed. The issue of what ' local' mecns is discussed. The arcas where the county relies on the mantelpalities in its plan is presented and it is n:ted if it is called for in the Kline and Kncpf plan,too.

For the most part (all but 2) the pub 1Ac has not roccived a netifacation with specific infermation relative to its respective munAcipality thcagn 5 out of the 14 have distributed a copy of the county's evacuation brochure.

Equ2pment largo and small1 is needed by most municipalities and they have little if any money to pay for it.

A few have dene infermal time estimates, the rest have not.

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or correspondence course work with PEMA for some of the coordinators, and a small degree of radiation monitor training, local emergency personnel are not now receiving training in any specific aspects called for in NUR 0 e654.

The latest York County plan commendably now addressem this issue.

Siren syster.3 were mostly felt to be inadequaLe but rumors have been heard cf more to come. Some were concerned the predicted numbers would still not be sufficient due to loud industrial noise, traffic noise, etc.

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Major problems were recognized in the radio and telephone communications systems with voice-locking, phone Jamming, etc.

The municipalities include virtually nothing in their plans about sheltering. There is confusion as to the function of the local ambulances in some instances.

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.a drivers. Sone cocrdinators and superintendents expected. parents,

will ignere dircetives and attempt to get their chi!d?en frcm school, l

causing traffic problems and panic. Busdrivers may.not diy and

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drive in asevere accident but may attend to their own families

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They may be difficult to reach is the accident occured at

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able to rely on their personnel, mere felt in a sudden severe accident it is more likely the personnel willput their families first, will get them and th9mcelve, out and therefore not be generally available in the initial states of an evacu0 tion if at all.

This was anticipated tv occur down the lino frem the cocrdinatcrs themselves to the firemon, pola:cmen, alert teams, etc.

The Newberry Township coordinator fcit pecple are fcoling themselves if they believe they will navo adcq; ate personnel availatie to handle a penicking, frightened public.

It was found th:t in the last few months, the coordinatcrs have i

felt cor.municati:n with the county has improved ( wh:re it was very t

poor previously), that.Mr. Curry, the York County Emergency Management Coordina*or, was.'dding a fine jcb but is overburdened having to do it unassisted, e pecially since he's been given additional ner-emercency 3 bs such as veteran's f ervi cer.

We found the cocrdinators entirely accessible to interview i

i most often once we reached them but unfortunately found it took at times 4 or more calls, scmetimes over days to get in touch with r

them and therefore wonder how much more difficult it will be for key people during an evacuation attempt.

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3 Testimony of Dr. Mary E.

Ryscavage 1.Q Q. What is the purpcse of the League of Women Voters?

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The League has three purpses-to foster educatien and citi:enship, A.

to promote forums and public discussions, and to sapport needed legislatien. When the League takes up an issue, we do so because we think the problem is one that must be solved and we'rt co'nvinced

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that the League can help to solve it. Once we'veaworked out o ur o wn-response to the problem, we stick with it until the issue is resolved -

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a sometimes against heavy odds. The League is a unique, non-partisan oraganization that prometos citizen participation at all levels of f#

k government and as a recognized force in the making of social policy.

The League is not new to the citizen advocacy movement.We've been at it since 1920. The League is involved most intimately with the workings of the government at the grassroots level. We choose program because of the urgency of a solution and/or the lack of commanity awareness.

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Q. Why did the League of Wemen Voters of Greater York do this study and describe the methodology.

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Frem a previous study a year before we found the status of i

evacuation planning fer York County was pocr. We felt it important to review the plans and share our findings with the community with the hopes that resultant increased public imput would improve the plan and thereby increase plan effectiveness.

Our study began formally in September,1980. We studied the state, county, municipal (townships and boroughs), and school district plans, with greater emphasis on the latter two.

We broke our ecmm.ittee of 12 members down to approximately three persons te a subcommitter, with a subecmmitt?e for each aspect mentioned above.

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interviews were conducted with representatives from PEMA and other state agencies, the NRC, FEMA, the Bureau of Radiation Protecticn of the Pa. Department of Envirormental pesoure(s, Kline and Kncpf,the I

Maryland Department of Health as well as the emergency management coordinator or if she or he didn't exist, a local official from each of the 14 risk municipalities within the 10 mile radius, school super-l 1

intendents within the 20 mile radius, Mr. Randy Curry, the York

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i Coenty Emergency Manag: ment C0ordinator, June Snyder of the State Department of health, a prison wcrden and others.

We met regularly and repu'od en our subcommittecs' progress.

When our data were ec11ated, we completed our summary and p_ resented

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it to the League and interested public tware, en ficvemtcr 19, 19 6 0 *and on January 7, 1981.

We took censonsus en the fin &4ngs on rettuary 18, 1981. We decided to do an updato dering the' m: nth of April, c0n-

a_m, contrating mostly :n follow-ups at tne munacipal and cerco! district

,m, r la els and a s.:..ary nf car update accerpanies this.

3.Q Q. Did every municipality have a coordinator?

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No. Coneqcgo Township still has no coordinator at all.

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cannot find anyone to vclunteer. Of the cocrdinatcrs precant, scre serve only in that role, others also as fire chief or town manager.

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c. How many munielpalstes have c:m.pleted plans?

A. Six have what they censider ccmplete plans.

Tour say they will 4. x, be completed socn.

Ccnewage has ne plan whatscever. Manchester Bcrcugh's is in a very early stage of develcpment. Two others are net close to completion.

A' C. What guideline er guidelines were used by the municipalites to develop their plan?

5.A A. noce emergency management coereir.ators never heard of sunEc ce54.

A GPU-hired company, Kline and Knopf, developed a Model Plan and distributed it to each of the 14 municipalities. When asked what its purpose was, Mr. Knepf said it was to be usad as a guideline only, to be used to aid the municipality as it develeped its own plan. Mcwever, in a memorandum by Kline and Knepf (9/15/B0) to GPU they state, *Kline and Knopf feels that, armed with the Model Plan and the Work Sheet, and having been led through the MoJel Plan, step by step, the coordinator was extremly well prepared to complete the blank spaces; and have his draft retyped in final form for submission to als elected public officials." The plans that have been completed or nearly completed appeared to be the

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the Model Plan with blanks filled in for the most part.

The York C:unty Cocrdiatter Mr. Curry welcomed the assistance of this ennpany as he took en has own overwhelming job around the sa.te time as Klin? and Fnepf geared up to go out 1,n the ficld (March. 1. H O ) ; in fact, Ms. Cat ry incorporatoTEe~tiodel Plah in tS his a

penultimate C enty traft though it is entirely deleted in his

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i most recent one.

Tno Medel Plan calls for no annual exercise,

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to notify the public within approximately 15 minutes, nor anything concerning radiation monitoring, including how dosimeters will be distributed, who will read then, record keeping, etc.

Thcre is nothing c0ncerning dec0ntamination procedures nor care or transpor.ation cf the radiatien victim. There is no space for time estimates or requirements for periodic testing of cor. uni-cation systems. It docs call for s public informatien n tice to be distributed by the local municipality which sh:uld include pick-up peints, assembly areas and evacuction routes.

It does not call for other things listed in Nureg oC54 including education regarding radiatien, respiratcry protectien, contact for additi nal information and sheltering.

6.m Q. What about the ccnfusion as to what " local" means in NURIG 065?.?

g 8A A. Mr. Crimes of the NPC cxplained that it primarily refers to the county' he.ever, wherover the county relies on the municipalates, evidence has to be prosent showing it meets NUrIG 0654's standards.

Q. Hcw does the York County Plan rely on the municipalites vis-a-vis 7^w NURIO 0654 ?

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The county plan relics on then:

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a. for distribution of a public information notice.

b. The municipal fire companies are responsible for provis;en of supplementary warning by use; of alert teams ( in K&K plan)

c. The fire and rescuo personnel are to provide transportatien for those without it ( in K6k plan)

d. Communications systems have to be available to be able to

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The police are to assist in traffic contrel. (in KsK plan) e.

f. The firm and police chiofs are to distribute potassium lodide to as

,ned personnel. ( not in K&K plan!

The fire and police chiefs,are to distribute desimetry g.

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h. It relies en local assigned personrel to rend dosimeters

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and keep records of readings, (net in K&K plan)

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t a state sponso red full scale exercise once approximately every wr 5 ycars and in a small scale exercise once a year. (not in K&K plan)'

, j. Concerning training, the county will identify key municipal personnel to receive training for potassium iodide distribution and f

use. (not in K&X plan)

k. Also, the county states the municipalitics will require training of " identified officials in 1981" ( unclear as to what this means exactly) and will target audienecc in subsequent years including newly elected officals L t r a i r. i n g. It expects refresher trainir.g courses to te taken by appropriate pers nnel.

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1. It is net cicar if the county relies on risk municipality fire companies or others to aid an decontamar ation precedures. (if it i

P doos, not in K&K plan) s C. What is the present status of pub 1:e informaticn notices concerning a general evacuation?

The ccunty developed a brochure and distributed limited numbers to each runicipality. Tive of the 14 have chosen to duplicate tnis I

and distribute it to their constduents as the only form of infermatien i

in this regard. Only 2 have drawn up their own information n?tice and one of the two is passing out the ceanty's ac we:1, The problem with the county brochure is that it doesn't gear itself to the specifics of each township or borough.

It refers to "the reception point designated by your local official", "If you do not have transportation, go to one of the pick-up points in your municipality", "If you are physically unable to leave your 1

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home, contact your local emergency management coordinator".

These are all dead-end referencea if no other more local information has been given out prior to an accident. The latest county plan requires that only the county brochure be distributed. In additien, as ncted a

before with the discussion about Kline and Knopf's information

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as well present supplies were to be listed. Most coordinaters felt

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they need some forms of equipment both large and small to effectaato their plan. A few were satisfied with what they have as it would pertain to a 10 mile evecuation. Virtually everyone asked felt neither the equipment or the money for it would be forthcoming from elswhere and local funds are limited.

9.Q O. Did anycne do time estimates?

A. Newberry Township has done an " unscientific" time estimate by driving its trucks, etc. over areas needed to be notified and cencluded an excess of 3 hours3.472222e-5 days <br />8.333333e-4 hours <br />4.960317e-6 weeks <br />1.1415e-6 months <br /> in average conditiens was needed. Two others have or are doing in!:rmal setimates. The'rost have not. (see sumrary) 10.0

c. Have the key personnel received training?

10.A A few coordinators have taken cerrespondence courses, some others A.

formal PDtA training ccurses but certainly not all.

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Dover, there is no other training of emergency personnel going on.

ommendably, in the latest ecunty plan draft, the issue of training l

needs is now addressed and appears more in line with NUPIC 0654 which requires training programs for cocrdinators, accident assessment and radiation monitoring teams, police and firement, first aid, rescue and medical support personnel. It is obvieusly not only important to state such courses are available but to see to it the proper people are actually receiving it.

The county plan stater that the countr j

l and the municipalities will require training for identified individuals in 1981. In other instances, the county plans to make those involved aware of what's available and urge them to acquire the training.

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and 9 York vehicles, b. Suburban York - 45.88mn: including B police departments and

c. metropolitan York - 155 625 and 158.970mh:

which will include 23 groups.

Fhene jams are e.xpected by many. They were experienced in March, 1979.

A few feel getting additional lines in is a high priority necd, especially to use to reach emergency personnel. One cocrdenater er -

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C. Wnat about radiation nenitors?

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Monitors are now present in varying, usually small nu.t.bers tnroughout the townships. A scarco number of people have taken the fnr*.a1 radiation monitoring course and one who did won't use r is ' skill anymore.

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c. How have the municipalities worked with the schools?

There has been a variable level of coordinated effort in these 1g,.4 municipalites where schools exist.

Some said the school districts are handling the task alene and they have only general ideas of re-1ccations sites, etc. thcugh this seemed not be be a concern to The cluster of cocrdinators from the municipalities included them.

in the Ncrtheastern School District all felt frustrated with the there.

persistent lack of cooperation with the superintendent 16.Q How do the municipalities deal with sheltering?

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at Mest have done no work specifically dealing with sheltering and view their responsibility and efforts in planning to be directed to evacuation alone.

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• A A. The amoulance in Lewisterry is to be relied on as the source of radiocommunication with the county as it has the fire frequency.

E. Mr.nchester has no ambulances and plans to rely on Manchester, under-standing they'll be second in line. York Haven is similarly strapped

i Other coerd;nators and plans to rely on Newberry or Manchester.

envasiened their ambulances to function as means of evacuating ncn-ambulatory percons. Others assume they will be attending mostly to

- ?he Newberry To*nsh;p accidents that v. y occur during the evacuation.

coordinator anticipates probices with choosing prior,1 ties - chocsing

's victim between carrying a non-ambulatory invalid and en ace:dont

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and further wenders where accident victims arc to be taken.

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would take fot He.eas also cer.cerncd with beth the length of time it ambulances f ro m elswhere to come and if the drivers are voluntect as they are often, wculd they risk radiatien expcsure and drive into i

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Q. Are there enough busses and busdrivers?

t 18.0 A. Mrs. Miller's testimeny regarding the school districts will go into 18, A greeter detail on this issue. The points raised by the ccordinaters included extreme concern about parents ignering any directive and attempting independently to get their children out of their schoe;(s),

resulting in panic and traffic preblems. We got similar feedback The frem many parents during our presentations of the study.

is convinced cf this superintendent of the Northeastern school district i

In addition, as well and describes efforts at planning to be futile.

the Manchester Township coordinator pointed out the availability of the drivers can't be counted on because they are not paid to be by the I

phone and may be out shepping, farming,etc. He cited a recent example cf a fire at Central High School. Thcugh the administration wanted to bus the children home, they simply couldn't get hold of the buscrivers Another coordinator doubted the drivers would stay if to get them out.

but would rather attend thers were a severe rapidly progressive accident first.

to getting themselves and their families out Q. What were the problems raised concerning commitment?

19.n 19.A A. The Lewisberry and Hellam coordinatcrs felt confident abcut getting l

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On the other hand, to quetc the coordinater ftcm t of E. Manchester Townsnip, "It ain't genna work." He noted only Se his pe:Fle showed up fer a planning meeting and fcit less wculd sh:w up for a real radiation emergency. Another_questi_cngst_"How fo we mandate

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that a man stay here to werk when in his mind his -first responsiblit; -

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worries about getting commitments for a radiation accident specifically

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thcugh not f r a general accident. Both the Newberry and Goldsboro

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coordinators stated, depending on the type and severity of the accident, they would take their f amilies, cut first as they were their first pri:rity and they felt their police and firemen would leave as well.

The Goldsboro cocrd:nat:r felt half of the helicopter pilots wculd be availabic for emergency aid.

The Newberry Tcwnship coordinater felt given a gradual situatien, meaning days, many may stay and help l

but if there was mere in. mediate danger, mest would head south with the others. He fcit this was the most severe preblem by far in the

. evacuation planning,If.an accident happened suddenly, "poepic would be ir. a pure panic just trying to get away," he observed and he cited examples of what actually occured during the 1979 accident. He inter-viewed his fire ecmpany ( of which he's president) and was given by the men the indication the majority would not necessarily stay, that j

their families were first in line. The Newberry cooordinater predicted no one would sit and direct traffic, that it would be like suicide."

He felt people are fooling themselves is they feel volunteers will stay.

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c. How has the relationship been between the county and the municipalities?

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Initial feedba:k early on in the study indicated county involvennet gg,g in the planning at the municipal levels was not nearly adequate and many felt frustrated by it and resented the lack of seeking input from them.

During our updating this past month, we got positive

, feedback on Mr. Curry's efforth. Many felt he was doing a particularly flee jeb and 'that com.nunication has picked up.

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91 is excessively burdened, especially with extra, non-emargency managennent Jobs such asVeteran's services. He has apparently started sector neetings. They must be in their initial stagas as not too many of the coordinators had a t tended them.

He cends regular newsletters conveying timely informatien to the coordinators.

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Scme of them required 4 or m:re phone calls and some over a period of days. All this was at a time when no disaster was going on, so we wonder how much moro difficult it will be for those concerned during an evacuatic, attempt.

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Testimony & Arlene Miller and Judith Hilliard en School Plans i

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Who were the interviewers ?

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Arlene Miller, Sandra Menchey, Judy Hilliardr Liz Ferruson,

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How did you choose your interviewees ?

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The York County Plan states diat it is the responsibility i

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travel time, etc.

It was logical to contact then.

In sone cases he were then directed to someone he had designated to work on the plan.

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Did you find any significant changes in planning fron your oririnal f

findincs in the follow-up interviews?

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but there had been no changes in their planning since our l

interview in November.

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How did you arrive at your questions concerning private schools ?

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he discovered an inconsisteney in interpretation of the i

t County plan where private school evacuation was concerned.

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Iwo of the superintendents in this situation had within it.

,n,e detailed plans for evacuation and two did not.

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who did not have them were not saying that they were not I

required to evacuate.

They told us that they had insufficient i

Arain this guidelines and help to develop an adequate plan.

f points up a lack of cone.unication and coordination amonc res-pensible parties.

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Fron the superintendents and the bus companies.

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Q.Arethereceptiencentersthatparentsvijputtranspcrtaiennaybe taken to the ser.e receptien centers that their children will be taken tc?

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Nc. Net in all cases.

There is also no previsien neted in the Ycrk County plans fer reuniting families er even fer assisting families to find cut where other menbers are who have been separated by the planning itself.

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O. Does the Ycrk County 3rechure list designatiens ef where scheci children will be evacuated to er does it list any way fer parents to find this cut?

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If the area busses are used te evacuate odt the children at scheel i

whose scheel buildings are within the EFZ, vill there be encugh busses i

te aise evacuate the schoci children whc live within the EFZ but I

whese schcel buildings are not within the EFZ7-I A. No, not en the first run. This leads to se:yp.rgl preblems.

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1. All cf the scheels within a schec1 district which has children j

l vho live within the EPZ =ay evacuate, as"th'ey new expect to, i

in which case there are net enough busses.

2. The school buildings within the' EPZ and persons without transportation

-l may be evacuated first, which veuld leave children whose families have been evacuated frem the EFZ at schec1 fer pessibly 1

a very leng peried of time until busses ceuld be used te pick them up, and even then, they could net ge here if they lived vithin the EPZ.

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3. Farents may receive a eenfusing ::essage-- sete scheel childre t

(in scheel buildings cutside cf the EFZ) nust h picked up and

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sete scheel children (in buildinEs inside of the EFZ) must net be pick'ed up.

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4. It may be very difficult to reunite fardlies, and it may be unreasonable to expect that parents will understand where their children are, where their children are geing, and what the parents are expected to do, and unreasenable to expect that parents vill act as the Eerk County Plan assumes they will.

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