ML20092C453
| ML20092C453 | |
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| Site: | Vogtle  |
| Issue date: | 08/09/1995 |
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| OLA-3-I-MOSBA-2, NUDOCS 9509130006 | |
| Download: ML20092C453 (5) | |
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Hello.
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Good morning.
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Want to start?
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The first thing you need to know is 2MF
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20 So, we won't be able to use that until we get it fixed.
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I won't know until he gets through.
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What's he looking at?
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Everything.
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All the logs that supposedly exist on,it.
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(Inaudible) data sheets they're supposed 22 to fill out when they (inaudible).
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There's also supposed to be a start log, 24 another procedure.
Every time they start the diesel 25 (inaudible).
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That's -- that's what the data sheets are.
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Those are the -- well, there is also a set 2
3 of readings they take on the diesel while it's running.
4 That's what I call a log, the log of readings.
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I'm not counting that one.
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There's another one -- yeah, there's 8
another one --
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-- that we started.
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The time and results of the diesel start.
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Yeah.
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And then they take -- then they send those 14 data sheets to Kenny Stokes.
Then Kenny Stokes gets them 15 sometime later and reviews them and says, okay, that's a 16 valid one, that's an inval d one, that's a failure.
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One of the things we've got to do is find 18 out if there is a sheet for every time it starts.
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There is not a sheet for every time it 20 starts.
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That's probably a reason -- that's 21 22 probably one of the reasons why the number won't jibe.
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That is a reason why the numbers won't 23 24 jibe, but that is not the reanon the -- the information is 25 falso that we provided.
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It's an indicator of the fact that we are-L 2
probably sloppy in what we've done.
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That's one of the reasons we ended up with 4
discrepancies.
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(Inau ible) log is not accurate.
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Yeah.
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But the reason these are not accurate --
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I talked about the same thing yesterday.
10 (Inaudible) exist.
Okay?
But the reason why we provided 11 false information to the NRC is because we used the control 12 logs, and we made mistakes.
We made mistakes for some 13 reason.
14 You know, I don't know if we tried to stretch the 15 information to say more than'what it really was or if we 16 counted them wrong or whatever, but we used the -- the (e&ri es.o.g 17
[ inaudible) information, and we made mistakes.
That's the 18 reason.
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based on those.
If starts were missing from the control 2
logs, well that would have just been more starts.
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You could have made at least a 5
conservative statement.
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Right.
Your statement should have been 6
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It would have been conservative if 8
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Right.
I would agree with that.
But I 11 won't know until he's -- he's through, and we're not 12 starting with somebody else's data.
13 We're generating our own, so that we don't sit 14 around trying to justify somebody else's numbers, because 15 that biases you one way or the other.
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Right.
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It's better to go with your own objective 17 18 number and then sit down and compare the two and figure out t
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21 we were starting it -- started it and run it for three minutes and started it and run it for five minutes and they 22 I
23 were ten minutes apart, the control room still should have filled out a sheet every tin,e it was started up, and they 24 25 probably didn't.
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