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PROCIED NGS 3EFORI UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION BEFORE THE ATOMIC SAFETY AND LICENSING BOARD In the Matter of:

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Docket No. 50-322-OL-3

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DEPOSITION OF STANLEY G. CHRISTENSEN Hauppauge, New York Wednesday, May 23, 1984 8407130231 840710 DRADOCK05000g s

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10 DEPOSITION OF STANLEY 0. CHRISTENSEN, 11 called fer examinaticn by ccuncel for IILCC in the 12 above-entitled action, purs uan t to notice, the witne ss 13 having been duly cworn by NICHOLAS TOPED, a Notary 14 Public in and for the State of New York, at the effices 15 of th e Suffeik County Executive, H. Lee Dennison 16 B uildi n g, Veterans Highway, Hauppauge, New Ycrk, at 17 10 :00 a.m., the proceedings being taken down by 18 Stenotype by NICHOLAS TCERE, and transcribed under her 19 direct ion.

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APPEAR ANCES:

2 On behalf cf Suffolk Ccunty and the Witnecs:

3 MICHAEL S. MILLER, ESQ.

Kirkpatrick, Lockhart, Hill, Christopher, 4

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Washington, C.C.

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Cn behalf cf Lens Island Lighting Ccepanya 7

1 ODES L. STROUPE, ESQ.

8 Hunten C Williams 333 Fayetteville St.

9 P.O. Bcx 109 Raleigh, N.C.

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10 11 Cn behalf of Transamerica D ela v al, Inc.

12 DAVID E. POSS, ESQ.

PETER A. RAGCNE, ESQ.

13 Guggenheimer C Untermyer, Esgs.

80 fine Street 14 New York, N.Y.

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2 Deposition oft Examination by Counsel for 3

LILCO NRC STAFF SUFFOLK COUNTY Stanley G. Christensen By Mr. Stroupe 4

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heen previously sworn, was examined and 3

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ER. STRCUPE:

We are continuing this 5

deposition, so the witness need not be sworn.

6 EX AMIN ATION (cont'd) BY MR. STROUPE:

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Prof. Christensen, you recall, I take it, 8

on May 8th and 9th, I took your deposition out in e

Calif o r nia.

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Yes.

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fou and I discussed certain componarts in 12 the Tr ansaserica Delaval engines at Shoreham.

Ycu 13 recall those discussions, generally?

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Yes.

Generally.

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I will ask you, had we, in f act, discussed pistons, cranksha f ts, and cylinder headc?

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I can't recall now, sir, exactly what we is had discussed then.

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will t ry not to go over anything that we have alread y 21 discussed, except fcr a couple of areas that I have Et specific questions on.

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I will ask you this question. 1cu had 2

indica ted to me a t the outset cf the deposition, that 3

deposi tion, at the start, that you were looking at a 4

.nunter of components.

I believe you read over a list of 5

the so -called 16 comperents, and you had indicated tc me e

that y cu were goins to to icoking at mest, if no t all, 7

of those cosponents.

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and see if I can get any conclusions or opinions that to you have come to with regned to some of the.

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12 connec ting rods and/or connecting rod bea ring s ?

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We will take connecting rods themselves, it first, please, sir.

Have you had an coportueity tc fers acy to tr praliminary opinion as to the reliability of the te connec ting toda in the Shoreham EDC'st 19 A

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1 earlie r, which were taken f rom a list of 16, I believe.

2 The five things that I was sont interested in were what 3

I would call critical high criority areans Crankshaft, 4

connec ting rod and connecting rod bearings, the pistens, 5

cylind er heads, cylinder block.

6 I think that makes up the five.

7 Q

Do you have, sir, an order of priority 8

among these five components?

Co you treat them as cf 9

equal significance ?

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Well, no, obviously to me, if there is 11 any f a ilure of the crankshaf t, the whole engine in If there is a failure of a cylinder cover, only 12 gone.

13 part of it is gone.

I would fix my priorities in that area.

14 15 If a cylinder cover cracks, you ray lose the entire is engine f rom a hydraulic lock situation in startino.

17 You have buckled th,# shaft, bent rain 18 bearings and you have a disaster en your hands.

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If we can talk abcut the cylinder heads a

f or a second, you are aware, are you not, that LIICC Ha n instituted a barring over procedure, with regard to 21 22 a tt emp ting to detect water in the cylinders or the TCI?

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Yes, I as aware of that.

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You have an cpinion as to whether that 3

proced ute will enable IILCC to detect water in the 4

cylint e r ?

8 NR. MILLIR to you have a copy of the 6

barring procedure that you are referrino to?

7 HR. STRCUPEs No.

8 RR. MILLERS You are asking the witness 9

f rom sescry to discuss the precedure with ycu?

10 HR. STRCUFra Yes.

The record should reflect in the witness' depcsition tak en in July of 11 12 1983, he discussed it in f airly such detail, with the is person deposing him at that time.

I believe he has a copy cf that 14 18 procedure, or he had a copy of that procedure at a time.

RR. IILLERs No reason te dispute that.

te 17 I would point out that was July of 1973.

This is almost te June o f 1984 I as not sure if the witness har even It N

seen t he precedure since last ausser.

If you wish to question about the 31 as procedure, why not show his a copy of it.

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ER. STRCUPE:

I don't have a ccpy.

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2 Dynner spent many pertiens cf days this week and last 3

asking the witness, witnesses, about varicus things cf 4

w hich he didn't furnish ccpies.

5 I would like an an swer tc th e questic n.

6 I will try hard to ask the kinds of 7

questions that don't require the witness te give a 8

specific detail, any specific details of these things.

9 I an asking for a general recollection.

10 If he doesn 't know, he can tell me.

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Are you aware of the LILCO barring over 12 proced ure ?

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I am aware of the procedure, yes.

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Do you know whether it calls f or barring 15 over within a certain period of time, after the engine I

16 has been in operation?

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Yes.

If I remember ccrrectly, I think 18 that there were periods of four hours, or maybe a le sse r 19 period, but a time period, time periods af ter running of 20 the en gine, in which they would bar over, and after th e 21 comple tion of that period, they would net proceed ever 22 with t he barring over procedure.

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I did, at the time that I lecke'd at that, 2

consid er that rather dangercus frcm the point cf view of 3

the history of the failures of the cylinder covers.

4 If a leak develcped at some period 5

subseq uent to the final barring over, then the engine 6

could start, and we would have a possibility of the 7

hydraulic lock situaticn.

8 The next thing on that was, if you have a 9

hyd raulic leck situaticn, ycu have a disaster on ycur 10 hands.

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Not to interrupt you, but I would like to 12 ask yo u about the disastrous results that could happen, 13 that you ref erred to.

14 Is it likely, Prof. Christensen, that if 15 the lac t barring over of the TDI diesel generators 16 o ccurs 12 hours1.388889e-4 days <br />0.00333 hours <br />1.984127e-5 weeks <br />4.566e-6 months <br /> after the engine has been run, that a 17 cr a ck or indication, whatever, can thereaf ter leak w ate r 18 into the cylinder, if nc water is detected at the l

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Wculd you define that, 2

lik ely.

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That is a 4

g en era lly-accep ted term.

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Do you understand "likely"?

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Not here, and I don't want to split 7

h airs, but when you say "not likely," I don 't know 8

whether you gave me a negation of likely or not, first.

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Is it probable that that can occur?

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There,is always probability; yes, I think 11 so.

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Ycu are saying it is pretable rather than 13 possib le ?

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Well, we are in a very, very awkward ar e a 15 of def inition h ere.

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17 full s tatistical term, where I would have tc gc back an d 18 ref ere nce the definiticn for the term?

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I am generally using that in the sense l

20 that it is more likely to happen than not, sir.

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Can you tell me how you would have er 4

could have a leak that would not be detected within the 5

12-hou r period, that cculd thereafter result in wate:

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From the fact that I de believe, frcr 8

lookin g at the design of the cylinder cover, tha t a 9

cra ck, if it ecmmences, would most likely commence from 10 the in side a nd move outwards.

That is from the coci 11 side o f the fire deck to the lever side of the fire deck.

I think that would be the direction cf 12 13 propag ation of a crack.

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going te happen, it would happen within the 12-hour 2

pe r iod, immediately after the running cf the engine?

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Not necessarily so, no.

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Why is that?

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Well, I can give you cases of one ship, 6

one class of ship, where we were running around with 7

cracke d pistons f or quite a fe w years, and we didn't 8

know it, mainly because the crack had been sealed by the 9

chemic al additives we have been using in the cooling 10 water.

As the crack develcped, th e le a ka c e was 11 12 sealed off from the build-up of the chemical within the 13 cr a ck.

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decide d that that was a safe period to end barring.

5 I don't think there is a safe period to 6

end ba rring if there is a dcubt, any dcubt, ab o u't ccvers.

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How long would it be your recommenda tion i

8 that t his barring over period or procedure go on with 9

the TD I engine?

10 A

It is difficult to put a time on things 11 lik e this.

Here, in a case,,in these surrcundings, cne 12 can only generalize.

13 I think, if there is any doubt about a 14 cylind er cover, that the barring over procedure shccid 15 not st cp at all.

Of course, the answer to the problem 16 is to get a cover that is reliable, that we kncv is 17 reliable and has stood the test of time.

18 Then we may dispense with the barring 19 over p rocedure entirely.

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design ed to do?

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I wculdn't know what they had issued 4

recent ly, no.

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This corrosion that you described as 6

affecting crack propagation, that could only occur if 7

the crack or indication occurs on the waterside of the 8

head?

9 Isn ' t that true?

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I am mainly thinking of it in this a r ea ',

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I am not going to say that a crack couldn't 12 propag ate f rom the other side.

I think I can see mechanisms whereby thi s 13 14 could occur, but I would have to think the~ out.

As to 15 that p ossibility.

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Since we are on the subject of cylinder 17 heads, let me ask you a few more questions about that:

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i 19 me if I am wrong, in your previous deposition with me, 20 that y ou very much wanted tc cbtain an isethermal cf the 21 TDI cylinder head on the Shoreham EDG's?

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I believe, did you not, th a t you 3

indica ted to me th at ' ycu didn ' t under s tan d why TCI 4

didn't have that available?

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yes.

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Now, you had an cpportunity, did ycu not, 8

to att end Dr. Chen 's d eposition in Washington, D.C.,

9 last w eek?

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I did hear that, yes.

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Did you have occasion to hear Dr. Chen's I

12 discussion regarding dcing an isothermal study of a 13 cylind er head such as the "CI heads on the Shoreham 14 en gin e s ?

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I was very much surprised that he decried 16 any experimentation along these lines.

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I 21 comple tely disagree with his views.

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grcup cf PhD's to attempt te do?

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I don't think it takes a large group cf 4

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to te, though, sir?

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That was his testimony, bu t I recall th a t 7

t es tim o n y was, if ycu were going tc try to do this 8

m a them a tically.

What I am going to say, this is usually 9

done e xperimentally in the areas that I kncv that it has 10 been d cne.

11 Also where I know it has been done, it 12 has been done out cf scmetires problems arising in 13 a re as, and in doing research so they can draw up a set 14 of iso thermals, where they have found the answer to th e 15 proble m and have mcdified it.

16 Now, usually, the savings are so great 17 over the costs, that it is rest ccst effective.

I know 18 many e ngine builders do the se studies, both by j

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Have you, Prcfessor Christensen, ever 21 seen a n isothermal of a cylinder head that was not 22 r elate d to a two-cycle engine?

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A Yes.

I have seen isethermals for 2

twc-cy cle and four-cycle engines.

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Wha t f our-cycle engines can you recall isothermal of the cylinder head for?

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A Fecently, I have seen some for an engine I can't recall which engine, but they' are shown in 6

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Exampler of isethermals fer 8

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9 I think there are isothermals of 10 f our-s troke engines shcwn in a book that I mentioned 11 earlie r, " Diesel Engines," authorized by Carl Stinson.

s I think there are some American-built 12 engine s there where isothermals are shown, if I remembe r 13 14 correctly.

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Would ycu tell me how you would attempt to do an isothermal of a TDI cylinder head?

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Well, nc, I have not investigated that.

18 I am sure that there must be ways and means.

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Why are you sure there must be ways and means?

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Well, one of the things which happens with the TDI engine cylinder head, there are weaknesses 22 I

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on th e ccvers which cover the ccre holds er the cere 3

f asten ings, whereas in many, many other engines that is 4

a belted ccverplate which can te removed.

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you wo uld intreduce dif ficulties.

This comes back te 7

what I call excellence in design in the first place.

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What does that have to do with ways and 9

means of doing isothermals en TEI cylinder heads?

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The re have been lots of problems with the 11 cylind er heads.

No one can deny that.

12 C

That is not the question.

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If there is a problem e xisting, then I 14 think it is encumbent upon the manufacturer to overccme 15 that p roblem so that he can sell a reliable engine.

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I understand that.

What I am asking, 17 what ways and means that you have indicated would yc u 18 utilize to do an isothermal of the TDI cylinder head ?

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He men tioned ways and 3

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I want to kncv what these are.

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Whether we start an 5

investigaticn cf this nature, I dcn't have a drawing of 6

a TDI cylinder head in f ron t of me.

7 I can't give an answer to that questiCn 8

in a f ew words in a deposition.

Th at might be a study 9

of two or three days, before I come up with an answer of i

10 how I wculd tackle that pretlem.

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Would you agree that the TDI head is t

12 g eomet rically a complex component?

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It is a complex component, just the same 14 as the other cylinder heads ha ve been analyzed f or their 15 iso the rm als.

Nc different from any of the cthers.

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19 a head cf a similar design to TDI.

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21 in-hea d cover or head.

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isothe rmals that ycu have described having seen in texts 2

or publications attempted te determine the isothermals 3

of various areas within the cylinder head?

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Yes.

Obviously, the main areas of 5

concern in the cylinder head are where you get changes 6

in sec tion ; where you get a high to a low heat transfer 7

rate; these are areas which would be censidered.

8 To bring things out of my head, it is 9

dif fic ult at this point in time.

In this very, very 10 comple x area, we are talking about, to bring things out wel l, as I am gcing te say and/or repeat, where this 11 12 has us ually been done, it has been done in some cases, 13 in the realm of pure research where an engine builder to know more about his engine, and in other cases, 14 w a n ts 15 in pro blem areas.

I believe I have seen in technical papers 16 17 on troubleshooting that they have investigated localize d 18 areas cf iscthermals tc get answers to problems.

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cylind er head ?

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No.

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Have you ever attempted to dC an 5

isothe rmal of a head?

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No, I have never had cccasien to.

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And tha' t would be both experimentally and 8

mathem atically ?

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Neither way, no.

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Hav e you ever been in'volved in a team 11 effert, sir, which attempted te do an isothermal of a I

12 cylind er head?

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No, but I have spoken to engine 1

14 manufa cturers in this area if isothermals.

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16 acquainted with quite a few of the problems which arise.

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Would you agree with me, sir, tha t doin g an iso thermal on a two-cycle encine would be easier than 18 19 doing an isothermal on a f our-cycle engine?

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You would have to define the method of 21 scaven ging the cylinder bef cre I give ycu an answer to r

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The way the exhaust gasses are remcved 3

and th e way the air is brought into the cylinder.

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Take a Sulzer engine.

Uculd it be ruch, 5

much less difficult to de an isothermal on the Fulze r 6

head than to do an isothermal en the TDI head?

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I would say that Sulzer manufacturers 8

engine s today in which both types of head are there.

9 One with one form of scavenging, and another with 10 a n oth e r.

You will have to tell me which engine.

11 I wculd have to knew whether it was an i

12 RTA en gine type or cne of the other types.

Whether a 13 M-type, or an earlier type than M.

14 There are so many dif f eren t types of 15 design f or cylinder-covers for the Sulzer, you can oc back tc Sulzer engines with an identical cylinder ccver i

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the TDI diesels at Shoreham?

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Do you want a jcurnalization or to be 3

specif ic?

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I uculd like a yes or nc, and then ycu 5

can specif y or journalize.

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I can't give you a yes or no answer.

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has to be an answer where I have to define thing s, a nd 8

where you would have te define things to me.

9 I can oc and shew you a two-strcke en gine 10 which has almost an identical cylinder cover to the TDI 11 e ngine.

There are se rany different designs of cylinde r 12 covers, that I would have to know which type of cylinde r 13 cover you talk about, to give you a complete answer.

14 Definitely, if ycu want a yes or no 15 answer, I would have to know the type of ccver.

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How about a 1 coped scavenging Sulzer 17 en gine ?

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Where are we going back to new, ten er 19 fif tee n years ago?

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Take at the present time.

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Present looped scavenging engine.

Ccing 22 to a b ore-cooled head or a normal hollev head?

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Comparatively as -- relatively as 3

com par ed with the TDI engine.

4-But, Sul er's have prcduced isoth er r a ls 5

for their heads with f our valves in the head, where the 6

head is almost identical to the TDI engine.

I d on 't cbvicusly, some engines have a 7

there is obviously 8

head e asier to design than others.

9 C

Ycu dcn't kncv hev icng it tcok Eulzer tc 10 produre the isothermal of the-head that is comparable to 11 TDI's er a fcur-cylinder head, do you?

12 A

I don 't know, no.

I do know this, they considered it 13 14 p ru den t to make an investigatien along th ese lines.

15 That is irrespective of what it cost er t

16 hcw lo n g it took.

17 C

Would I te correct in assuming th a t ycur 18 bo t tom line would be that ycu disagree with what Dr.

19 Chen indicated about the difficulty in doing an a

isothe rmal of the R-4 cylinder head?

21 A

I dcn' t disagree with the dif ficulties.

22 Many things in lif e are dif ficult.

I de disagree with ALDERSON REPORUNG COMP ANY. INC.

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his st atements in regard te cost ef f ectiv eness' a nd c th e r 2

thing s there, particularly in the a rea of cost.

3 So much depends on how many engines we 4

are ma king in a year.

I kncv this that if I were an 5

engin e builder, I would want to protect my good name.

6 I vculd certainly make it my business to 7

find out as much as I could about my engines, so that I 8

have t he best reliability pcssible.

9 Q

You don 't f eel you would know tha t enless 10 you ha d an isothermal cf th e cylinder head?

11 A

I f eel that the isethermal cf the 12 cylind er head would give you an answer to many of the 13 prchle ms that have been experienced with these heads.

14 Q

If we can jump to pistons for a f ew 15 min ute s.

16 A

Fine.

0 I am somewhat of a novice in this a rea.

17 18 You indicated, I believe, in your pric:

19 tes tim on y, that you were concerned about piston size 20 loadin g in the TDI Shoreham diesel?

21 A

Yes.

22 0

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LONG ISLAND LIGHTING COMPANY

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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that copies of SUFFOLK COUNTY'S MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF PORTIONS OF BOARD'S JULY 5 EDG ORDER, dated July 10, 1984, have been served on the following this 10th day of July 1984 by U.S. mail, first class, except as otherwise indi-cated.

Lawrence J.

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Mr. Marc W. Goldsmith Administrative Judge-Energy Research Group, Inc.

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